Both Etheopia & Ivory cost are Muslim (but inactive in term of politics) majority countries. way yar dalleensan yihiin muslimiinta dalalkaasi

Originally posted by Abtigiis & Tusbax: SNM won peace and development for its region. That much they achieved with clan struggle. Maaddeey, Noocan Dambarsame oo kale lalama doodo. Waa muqafilin meel ay kaga dhagtay. Bal haduu qabiil soomaliyeed dulmi lagu hayo ka dagaalamo maxaa ku jaban? A&T Sxb horta caydu diinta iyo dadnimadaba naaqis bay ku tahay ee is deji. the second WALLAAHI I would like that we lay down the best strategy with the least lost to achieve our goal taking into account the very resources in hand and be coutious the aftermath of our strugle never putting aside the ensue problems could come after gaining the power. understood I am you you must be me and cross-sectional debates will have fruitful results

War dagaalka Axmed madoobe & Alshabaab waxaaba ka daran ka Maaddeey & Xiin finiin e wax dadaal nabadeed ku soo dabbaala ma la waayey.

Very sad to make your shelter in the peasant's inhabited areas, it is a disgusting battle strategum used since the days of Aydiid.

oo maxaa ku jaban hadday dantooda si nabada u tukubiyaan. Rahii wuxuu yiri hadday biyo raandhiis leeyihiin dabadayda ka daya the best example for the consequences of an armed clan militia which call themselves Patriotic front for the rights of known specific tribe could be easily learn from somalia's fate

Go on my zealout friend

cararkii soomaali laga cararayey ma wuxuu gaarey in xaafaihii hargeysa kala cararaan, waan sugeyney and worse than that.

than now( IN SHAA ALLAAH), I think you mean that

Shariif Xasan is delegated by Sh. Shariif is't it Mr. Jacayl barqo ? ( Ballanka Ilaahay barqaan kacay )

Originally posted by Amistad: [QB] You are speaking about my friend in CFR, Bronwyn Bruton, and she is not advising any abandonment, quite the contrary. She is advising political dis-engagement, and for foreign govts not to meddle inside Somali Politics, and to let them form their own solutions to their own problems. what does that mean brother in law (as you mentioned else where)? while you intent to support somalia that huge programme and yet decided never set your foot in somalia nor interfer internal affairs,while somalia has some serene areas applicable to utilize it. I think the programme will be thorughly consumed at nairobi by its funders and kenyans

While the current Somali transitional government is by no means perfect, there are at least a couple of things it has been doing right- putting in place various apparatuses to pave the way for good governance, and laying the foundation to reestablish law and order. Granted, these two developments are only moving at a snail’s-pace. Furthermore, these kinds of developments are not as appealing as the reports of lawlessness, corruption, violence and piracy, thus they seldom get reported. When it comes to reporting news, especially as it pertains to other non ally countries, there seems to be a prevalent norm that predictably gravitates toward the negative. Positive is boring! So, if one’s impression about Somalia is based on reports by that same media who, by and large, rely on scoops gathered by amateur local reporters that they then cosmetically polish in the comforts of their offices thousands of miles away from the scene, one is likely to hold a blurred picture about the reality on the ground. And, it is no surprise that some policy advocates are so credulously misinformed, they declare Somalia a hopeless case; and that the United States and the international community should totally disengage from that country and to leave to its own diabolical vices. One of the main factors that caused the failure of the so-called global war on terrorism was that fact that it ignored how the feeling of hopelessness inspires desperate and destructive acts. As the individual grows more dangerous when consumed by a sense of hopelessness so do groups and nations. There is enough psychological research available to confirm that the feeling of desperation triggers survival instincts that know only one rule: by any means necessary. This is not to downplay the enormity of the task required to help the transitional government restore law and order… but to point out that abandoning Somalia at this critical juncture could simply worsen the situation. While it is true that the U.S. foreign policy of the previous administration and the role of AMISOM have further radicalized more Somalis, the abovementioned alternative could be a recipe for disaster- not only for Somalia , but for the region and perhaps beyond. AMISOM earned a bad reputation during the two year Ethiopian occupation of Somalia . To improve its image and regain credibility, certain Muslim countries must be persuaded to send their troops. Given the right political and economic support, the transitional government would step up to the challenge and assert its mandate to govern and set the stage for broad-based reconciliation that includes those al-Shabab and Hizbul Islam members who denounce violence, “Somaliland” and “Puntland”. The current transitional government has the potential to surprise the cynics who are writing it off. Contrary to the common practice of the previous transitional governments, the current government is a coalition of Islamists and secularists. The inner circle of influence counseling President Sharif Sheikh Ahmed and Prime Minister Omar Abdirashid Sharmarke on various critical issues are diverse in terms of clan affiliation, educational background as well as age and experience. Not to mention that a good number of them come from the Somali Diaspora. So it is fair to say that for the first time something that resembles the genuine principle of inclusivity in political participation is shaping itself in Somalia . Ironically though, the biggest hurdle hindering the sustainability of any immediate solution still remains to be the so-called’ 4.5 system’ in which the zero-sum clan-based competition for resources is institutionalized. Power, according to this system, is divided on an unbalanced scale that guarantees equal distribution to four major clans and a one half share for minority communities considered to be the riffraff of a clan-based society where might is rewarded. However, the good news is: elements that could potentially dismantle this unjust system are on the move. Already, within the Somali Diaspora communities, various groups have started holding early political town hall meetings to develop their platform and form political parties that would run in the upcoming general elections a little over a year from now. And it is this latter development that is further boosting the hope of many active members of the Somali diaspora who have been yearning for stability and peace. In its attempt to develop a comprehensive policy toward Somalia; were the United States to adopt the so-called “constructive disengagement” approach being pushed by the Council on Foreign Relations, it would only mean to completely abandon two elements critical to its national interest and security: repairing U.S.’ deeply damaged image in the Islamic world, and protecting America’s geopolitical interests. Prudently engaging Somalia provides an opportunity to kill two birds with one stone. Meanwhile, the alarm bells are ringing: pirates continue seizing commercial ships and vessels- over 200 attempts and 47 successes in 2009. Religious extremism, a phenomenon that Abukar Arman—a Somali writer who was recently appointed Special Envoy to the US —calls “radio-active ideology” masquerading as religion continues to spread. And, 3.5 million Somalis remain on the verge starvation. ________________________________________ Dr. Oduesp Eman teaches political Islam in Turkey

what SNM has benefitted from their strugle which came at high cost of human tolls and demolished properts? I think nothing, except to tell the peasants and the lay man a kind of lip service and that they recoup their old name of somali-land or (british freindly clans which I think now is in its process to impose)which britain named them. while one can easily recall how fast that part of somalia was Dynamically developing when Snm began to oppose the government just for the intrest of very few men but showed the mass as some thing good for them.but alas, the project backfired its instigators like A.rahman tuur who unfortunatly when he was elected the presidential seat immidiately developed a policy which playing off against each other the clans who were previously told they are one and indivisble, Siilaanyo who while he was fired from the ministry of commerce portofoglio became one of the founders of the above mentioned clique and still waiting to win the presidency of the entity and Ing. M.h.Elmi who is still strugling just to come in to the fold of the Elite.

Originally posted by Johnny B: There are many scapegoats for our Barbarism, the most popular one being Providence. No body shares with your barbarism scapegoats. :rolleyes: :eek: the term PROVIDENCE has wide range of significance, but if you mean the DIVINE PROVIDENCE, may I ask you, do you believe in the ephemeral stuffs invented by the man just for facilitation of his worldly required services? if you answer that question then we will have a chance to commence some kind of logic and complementory discussions.

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: [habartii xerada looga guuray maxay tiri, bal hadde aan wax dhawro soo maahayn . [/QB] wax rag loogu maahmaaho ma ahee ka hor mari

war waxakan xaggee ka keentay war xun lama fidiyee or the person who his email appears the beneath had sent it to you privately

I think SS is from somewhere called Shaxda or Yibaayil although they are not far away from us , hadduusan cidda gabar ka jeclayn "jacayl waa ïnkaar, indhiyo dhego toonna ma leh"

Kashafa You mean you are employing in here the famous mucawiya saying said "idaa kaana baynii wa bayna naas shicratan waaxidah manqatacat idaa arkhuuhaa shaddadtuhaa wa idaa shadduuhaa arkhaytuhaa" miyaa we will see when you make it light, walaal. wallee rabbi ka baq iyo rag iska celi meel mawada galaan haddayan xaq ahayn baa soomaalidu dhahdaa

Originally posted by Maaddeey: [QB] Dambarsame, taladeydii thread-ka kale qaado oo Sheekh Google weydii ha kuu jawaabee haddii kale leggere Corriera della Sera ho cercato fin da ora e non ho trovato ancora dove si trova il corriera della sera ho paura che non voule chiederti sheikh e non tornero mai, scusa mi fratello :rolleyes:

nevertheles Faiysal didn't said what is written in the title of the thread explicitly, in many times he mimmics Al-Haj Musa Sudi yaleho and he is NW Somalia politics commedian

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: ^^Inaadan ahayn maxaa u daliilaa ? Ahammu calaamaat allatii tucraf bi script, include 1- is qaris 2- hal mawduuc ka hadal 3- qof gaara fiirsasho kulli waa kugu rummoobeen, plus waqti baa ku galay in lagu xaqiijiyyo war sh. Maaddeey ninka your profile plus the somali lineage that you affiliated with u soo qor dee illeen alamtarana ku joogsan waaye.. Mr. Xiin anoo in yar idinla joogey ayaa has some thing already revealed me that he is from goofafka muqdisho, puo darsi che non ho ragione.

Warka maaddeey oo dhammaystiran Allpuntald.com buu ku yaal. Horta what are the differences and similarities of alshabaab and hisbul-islam? count them sh.Maaddeey please. Ma mujaahidiintii firqooyinka badnaa ee afghanstan oo kalaa? and their present alliance is just standing for one's enemy's enemy is his friend? and if they have only one goal what is the hell factor that denying them to unite? wonderful

Originally posted by Kashafa: [QB] Dambarsame, Although you make some valid points, you're quoting them in the wrong context. If your overall point is that the Mujahideen should somehow 'talk peace' and sit at the negotiating table, you are both naive and deluded(no offence). What an equivocal utterance you put in this place since you have already judged me as you know what I am hiding in the heart telling that I am quoting something in a wrong principle. " an naasu yaxkumu thawaahir WALLAAHU yatawalla bawaathin" First of all and foremost I plainly declare that I believe implementing Islamic sharia is innegotiable.Secondly what I was talking about was the Islamic way of calling or something called in arabic ( usluubu dacwa) and the prioritization of priorities (awlawiyaat), and I still say and ask you ( forget about what is going on in the embattled somalia battle grounds and how every religious sect and administrational entity implementing its daily occupational responsabilies), which is better to call the others to follow in your guidence, a manner which making them furious and leading them to the point of deffense and inexcusable cyber warring system or a better way which you dissuade, consult and advice them rationnally taking your points from the undeniable wisdom of the ALMIGHTY SW and the recites, acts and the instructions of the Mustafa PBUH. which could easily actuate them to the light path.and bear in mind the people that you are going to preach are declaring the SHAHAADAH, while when ALLAAH SW sent Moses and Aron to pharoah said WAQUULAA LAHU QOWLAN LAYYINAN where ALLAAH SW knew that pharoah will never concentrate to get in the path?

Originally posted by Maaddeey: [QB] Jacfar, adi Miskiin baad tahay!, qof aan Gaal isagoon ahayn iri ma jirto, sababta aad sheegtayna uma dhihin, hadaad caqli yar leedahay waad is weydiin lahayd, dib ayaadna u raaci lahayd!, teeda kale cayda Sol members kaliya miyey Xaaraan ku tahay??, wiiloow, yaanaan isku dambaabin, please i amaan geli, dhib miyaa?? Xiin, adi Script baad ku waalatay, ee ninyahow al fujuur fil khusuumah iska ilaali Ow folks hailing from P/Land dhaafa sheekha ,abhintu idinma celiso miyaa :mad: . Faaíido badan ayuu meesha u leeyahay, Kaftankuna xiddaysane ha noqdo Baanjeerka xoora waryaaya oo meel sare ka kaftama

Mr. Xiin and Mr. Jacfar Please, Please and Please let Sheikh Maadeey alone and piece for he never used to show any kind of revenge towards some unworthy words you accustomed to reitrate like script and so so and according to me (how ever he insists to be alshabaab fan) he has a demeanor of religious and decency... walaa tanaabazuu bil alqaabi bísa ismul fusuuq...

Putting aside insincere and unindemnifying vis-a-vis badmouths between posters reflecting how they are zealotly defending their hubs I would like to ask Alshabaab supporters: 1- Isn't said by the ALMIGHTY SW "udcu ilaa sabiili rabika bilxikmati wal mowcidatul xasana". 2- Walaa tastawil xasnah walaa sayyiáh idfac billatii hiya axsan wamaa yulaqaahaa illaladiina sabaruu wamaa yulaqaahaa illaa thuu xathin catiim. 3- isn't said by the Mustafa PBUH " Ad deenu nasiixa, qulnaa liman yaa RasuuluALLAAH qaala LILLAAHI, wali Rasuulihi wali aimatul muslimiina wa caammatihim. Isn't it good to understand the priortization of the religiously required elements and put inorder accordingly? Isn't it better to grasp lessons learnt from recently religiously revelutionaries took place some islamic countries like sudan and iran (forget what ever sect they were advocating for) and practice the tactics they employed to breakthrough thier motives?