Originally posted by AfricaOwn: [ . Who is this dude? But I thought Dr M. Gabose is my uncle (real uncle) and his linked with Kulmiey party :confused: Clan hatered? lol, don't be silly. This is a typical refugee response. [/QB] if Dr. gabboose is your real uncle then you should have been commandeered recently and you are not still eligible to be a real SNM boy. isn't true that you moved from cabudwaq just few years back orodkaagaan la yaabay illeen nin cusub baad tahay

(see the cockroach farmer above). the way he present his essays, the way he post the pics and even the somali dialect he pronouces and how he is defiant at all times,infact this man KASHAFA discharges me involuntary loughter

but he never recognised something called somaliland

The source sxb. eliciting from the hassle and bassle took place there previously I think until we are reaching to have a capable and competent goverment al-shabaab must be idyll to stay there

I think that election will never take place until Mr. siilaanyo get over the age that constitution denys him to be a presidential candidate

Am I wrong or the recognition has recently entered in the nets of the fishers?

Karajuu min bakrata abiihim, "definitely somaliland has moved" what a huge welcome he recieved even the cars they named after him are among the welcomers

What is your opinion about this maaddeey sxb? NO offence neither curiosity sxb

Originally posted by Amistad: A private Somali anti-piracy company. Does anybody know if they are still there ? what the hell intrepreneur game your dealing with, brother in law getting back to the topic as far as I know about this company the spearhead and the command of its arm passed away probably before two years besides its troops and all its heavy and light arms are commandeered by the president of puntland

Originally posted by Sayid*Somal: Dhulqarayn mentioned in the Qur'an is not Alexander the Macedonian Greek who was known for his cruelty (and some say for his homosexuality tendencies) - the dhulqarayn that is mentioned in the Qur'an resembles the life of Cyrus the Great - the Qu'ran mentions Dhulqarayn's expeditions towards west, east and a third direction. Secondly when Qur’an talks about Dhulqarayn, it shows him as a person believing in one God and the hereafter. He is also depicted as a kindhearted and just ruler. Now it is known about Alexander that he was a polytheist and no incidents of his kindness and justice are explicitly recorded in history. But as far as Cyrus is concerned we find out that the extent of his expeditions was towards west, east and north that is, after becoming the king of Persia, Cyrus went on different expeditions, he also freed slaves - protected the weak communities from the Gog and Magoog etc. sxb don't take your points only from western historians ( jews, christians and early greek and romans) who fill the bages of history whatever they want (delibratly or inocently) havn't you read how they dealt with LOT and SOLOMON (calayhimu salaam) in the old testment (in the view of their conduct and blieve). so that contemplating in the verses of AL-KAHF recounting DULQARNAYN and his mass expeditons, the hot spring ( which situated till to day the westren province of macedonia), the iron gate which was used to lie somewher in central asia republics and so on you will never have the least doubt that ALEXENDER the great was the DULQARNEIN mentioned in the KORAN

Try to keep your nations' top secrets tightly

Originally posted by GAAROODI: Any way brother and sisters. I have come to the conclusion that LIFE IS TO SHORT AND THAT WE ARE HERE FOR A SHORT TIME. I am preparing to change myself and become a better muslim. If i offended anyone while i added to these debates, i apoligise and ask you to forgive me and not hold anything in your heart for me.i wish you guys all the best and inshalah i pray that you all find peace and Allah. As i prepare for my own personal individual struggle to improve myself, i ask you to pray for me that inshalah i become successful in my struggle to become a better MUSLIM and better servent of allah. THIS IS YOUR BROTHER GAAROODI LOGGING OFF. ASALAMU CALYKUM !! Good Gaaroodi ( ALAM YA'NI LILLADIINA AAMMANUU AN TAKHSHACA QULUUBUHUM LI DIKRILLAAHI WAMAA NAZALA MINAL XAQ) your speach reminded me this Koranik verse sxb may ALLAAH SW accept your Repentance

Cap driver, NSS officer..... cajiib oo goormaa shaqadu ceeb noqotay

waa maxay shaqaaqooyinka qabiil ka hadalka daarran ee meesha ka soconayaa.

Originally posted by Haatu: quote:Originally posted by dambarsame: I don't know socrats and plato but Ihave been tought that Aristotal was the teacher of ALexander the great (DUL QARNAYN), so that since they were the teachers of aristotal they should have had some thing similar to the islamic doctrine Sxb Alexandra the Great was not Dhul Qarnayn. DQ lived much much before ATG. Sxb Alexandar the great was the son of philip the second of macedonia and he reigned 332-321 BC according to gregorian calendar and most islamic sophisticated commentators like ABDULLAHI YUSUF ALI contsrue that he is the DULQARNAYN mentioned in the KORAN

Alla Alla Alla kuwani maxay citiraaf ku falayaan, iyagaaba citiraafka laftiisa ka xoog badane

I don't know socrats and plato but Ihave been tought that Aristotal was the teacher of ALexander the great (DUL QARNAYN), so that since they were the teachers of aristotal they should have had some thing similar to the islamic doctrine

and other rumors say this is a type scapegoat and giving the wrong impression about tha puplic view for they are insisting that the high rank state running officials like riyaale and so on are behind the murder case of late col.Cismaan yusuf Nur

SUBXAANAH MALIKUL QUDDUUS. ILAAHOW dalka cid sida u dhaanta u soo *** :confused: :confused: :confused:

SNM has never reached by any kind of stuggle where they are to day. and they are not better to day than yesterday. sow kuwaan aannu ilaa riyaalahooda maalin walba passaportska u samaynayno uun ma aha

Originally posted by Abtigiis & Tusbax: Dambarsame, If you are open-minded about your positions about the ONLF struggle, it is easy to discuss and agree. If you have made up your mind based on recycled falsehoods and likelihoods, it is futile to do so. The fact is the people of O are resisting oppression and no amount of mistakes by ONLF leadership justifies abandoning your brothers who are suffering under a cruel occupation. Only this week, 6 of my inlaws (one of them a mother who gave birth to a child only a week ago) are arrested. One of the boys (a 17 year old) was tortured so badly and lost most of his lower teeth. All are accused of fund-raising for ONLF but none have seen the door of a court. Disregarding the resistance aspect of the struggle and focusing on the label and mistakes of ONLF leadership is myopic. I am not for a separate homeland called Oga.denia and I don't think it is a viable concept. But I am for joining Somaliweyn and I think the Somaligalbeed people need to join hands to free themselves from colonisation. However, if one clan (by fate or by design) chooses to fight Ethiopians, there is no shame and the other Somali's need to support it. ONLF should change its name and has said they are ready to do so. Those Somali's who are doing nothing in their areas but are rationalising their inaction by pointing fingers at ONLF are doing a disservice to Somalinimo as much as ONLF's intrasigence is a problem. Dadkan O'da ah eed clan fulaan la dabasocoto clan kale isma haystaane Ethiopia ayey is haystaan. If Makhiiri's were to fight Yemen, it is not my responsiblity to look at who they are as a clan, but it will be somali's fighting outsiders. Try to look at it this way. Ciddina ma leh ONLF waa ceeb ka saliim, laakiin dacaayadaha aan micnaha lahayn ee dad aan waxa gobolka ka jira la socon sheegayaana wax loo dul qaadan karo ma aha. And the fact is it is only one clan -the O, that have an incentive to fight Ethiopians. Those in Bokh and Galadi think it is not their duty because they have Puntland, those in Xarshin think they are part of Somaliland. This dissary is a result of the collapse of Somalia and the clan malady that is pervasive in the wider somali socio-political setting. It is not something ONLF created and any realistic person will know that it is hard to bring all Somali's togather for a cause at this time. Hadday Somaalinimadii baa'ba'day oo Somaliland lagu kari la'yahay Somalia ayaad tihiin, Puntland'na ay leedahay waxanagu waa noo gaar, the ONLF stance would only seem to be the logical course of action. When and if Somali's come togather and the atrophied Somalinimo comes back, it will be easier to rally all clans in Somaligalbeed for the liberation struggle. ONLF is not an opportunistic oraginsation. If they were so, they would have taken their part in the destruction of somalinimo by sleeping with Zenawi who is begging them on a daily basis. They may have problems of devising the right policies at the right time, but there is no question they are principled. Mudane Abtigiis and tolka It is shallowness and inhumane perspective to think that a sane person could have a kind of phobia or complex towards a group, clan, category or caste of social congregation due to their race, color, dogma etc. (if they are not willfully and aggressively decided to usurp the in-born right of others) leave alone of all the people whose are his closest relatives in every aspect of human association. For this reason I have no any kind of prejudice to any group of varied Somali clusters whatever motto they resorted to propagate their cause (clan or religion as status quo situation of present Somalia politics being harboured back to decades). On the other hand every person has the right to go along with, analyze scrutinize and with benevolence-intent criticize political steps taken by his fellow Somalis. Going down to ONLF cause and the perpetual impiety and heinous different-leveled oppressions taking place in ******ia daily upon the people affiliating with ONLF by Ethiopian regime is 100% regrettable, unswallowable and deserves to line up after it but in which way? My friend there is Somali adage says who made properly preference of two good things is not perspicacious nor the one who made precedence of good thing from the bad is intelligent but the very one who prudently and courageously choose one from two bad things for himself and swallowed it with its sore taste is plausible and now if we compare this unkind tigray regime with centuries old imperial-minded AMARAS whom their conscience, blood, sweet and all their different body apparatus can not work with out the nourishment from human exploitation, whom it was only yesterday when they used to deny and made by no means impossible to any Somali urban citizen live beyond economic and strategic somali owned of under Ethiopian ruled towns to build for himself nothing more than 3m per 3m wood-made cottage while there is some extent of freedom that person has the right to exposure his feelings now. Or the Oromos whom their innumerable hordes could easily and without using any significant weapons thrust far up to farthest granule of soil inhabited by any Somali group and who by the virtue of our divisive, irresolute and bickering character already blundered the two parliamentarian seats of diridhaba and 390 above polling sites as well. So that taking an advantage of some elements like: That Tigray community is among the minority groups in the Ethiopian multi-racial confederation republic as Somalis and we share with them some kind of feelings besides there are rumors saying if they recognize any suspect threatening their power is bleak they are ready to secede their zone, a move could easily lead the disintegration of loosely tailored Ethiopian different entities, ONLF must negotiate this regime not as sycophantic manner but mutual and cross-sharing interest manners and become ready for that day (the more you look backward the more you likely to predict the future). I mean the day must come when the people of Somali inhabited region of Ethiopia completely have all potentiality to armour its self all cadres that have competence to run all independent state needed provisions . Lastly I perorate my writing it is necessary that ONLF peacefully deal with this EPRDF and use this period of respite to strength its self for development of both human resource and infrastructure.

Mudane A&T sorry that I don't have a chance to answer at present, but I will come back promptly INSHAA ALLAHU.

waa run mu'mmin hal god laba jeer lagama wada qaniino.. ballamihii hore ee looga bxay iyo heshiisyadii horena ma maqal, laakiin bal kanaan surveillance ku samayn doonaa IN SHAA ALLAAHU. Laakiin nimankan tigreega maaddaama ay minority ku yihiin in the ethiopian empire fursado badan oo aan Amara & Oromo laga heleen baa looga faaíidaysan karaa baan is leeyahay, in ay qalad tahayna waa suure.

Sorry I jumped over the important and meaningfull phrase "ma astatactun"

Originally posted by Maaddeey: ^wax walbaa ku jaban! madax tigree baalooto maahee baryo ma yaqaan! Maaddeey, THe best friend of mine in SoL world Xamar, Galguduud, Dhoobley, Hiiraan and Etheopia meel walba ma Bullet uun baa luqad lagu af garto noqonaysa, Gabadhii heestay waxay tiri "miyaan reerkuba degeyn ma kii laga raysey baa" as per the Islamic holy wars it had better to follow ( wa ucidduu lahum min quwwqtin wa min ribaatil khayli turhibuuna bihi caduwuLLAAHI wa caduwakum)