Baar-magoog, Laba Baar, Qalqalooc, iyo Ulasan dheh; scenes of many of Cabdi Galayax's vivid poetry. I see naught has changed from the times of yore! Waa tii hirkii lagu eryay iyo harihii kor'e Watii hulkii lagu ceshaday hogoga dheraa Waatii hudii Ulasmeed haadka loo waray'e Waatii hungah baar magoog horini tiiltiil'e Waataan halyegii dilniyo huriyihii door ah' Waataan halbowlah kujaray handkii dheraay'e

If they expect Somalia to be a holiday or even as amicable as Liberia was for them, I think a rude awakening is in order. Shall we start predicting how long they shall last in the land of the Nomads?

His is misplaced pride I would say rather than a complete disagreement with Islam. To imply the practice of his time and forefathers is singularly "wrong" would imply his form of worship and that of his ancestors were wrong. What old man who has been gone from his homeland for such a long time and has vivid nostalgia of the "wonderful" past wants to be told that not all was well in the fairy white castle of yesteryears? Rather he needs to be educated about this particular subject of the veil, something I presume no one has done yet.

Xalane- Pray who are the "defeated lot" and what force defeated them?

Aqoonyahanada, Dadka Waxgaradta iyo Saraakiisha oo isaga cararaya Magaalada Muqdisho Caasimadda dalka Soomaaliya waxaa ka baxsanaya dadka waxgarta ee is dhihi karo tiir ayay u noqon karaan dhismaha iyo jiritaanka dalka, kuwaas oo bartimaameed ka dhiganayaan kooxaha wax dila ee fowdada ka wada Muqdisho. Ugu yaraan 8 qof ayaa 12 saac aynu soo dhaafnay lagu dilay Caasimadda Soomaaliya Muqdisho, taasina waxay keentay in ay sii ballaarato cabsida laga qabo dhinaca Nabadgalyada. Markii shalay sii laba jibaartay dilka loo geysanayo dadka rayidka ah ayaa dad badan oo aan la kulmay waxay bilaabayeen inay isaga tagaan dalka isla markaana meel ka mid ah dunida ka raadsanayaan goob ay ku noolaadan. Qaar ka mid ah Aqoonyahanada degan Caasimadda Soomaaliya ayaa ku baxsaday lugta, iyadoo qaar kalena qorsheynayaan in ay u dhoofan Dibadda. Sidoo kale Saraakiisha Ciidamada kala duwan Soomaaliya kuwa aysan shaqada ka helin Dowladda Federaalka ayaa iyagana waxay ka fikirayaan inay isaga tagaan Caasimadda Soomaaliya. 2-dii sano ugu dambeysay ayaa kooxo aan la fahmin waxaa ay yihiin waxay bartimaameed ka dhiganayeen Aqoonyahanada iyo Saraakiisha Soomaaliyed. Haatan oo dalka Dowlad ka jirta ayaa mar kale dib loo bilaabay dilka Saraakiisha iyo Aqoonyanada iyo dadka waxgarta eek u dhaqan Magaalada Muqdisho. Nuuradin Macalin Mukhtaar (Dinow) nuradiin007@hotmail.com Xafiiska Midnimo ee Muqdisho Soomaaliya

Most of them are as real as could be and they are captivating I must say. Transforms one to the past!

Originally posted by Taako Man: ^ First of all it is premature to say he has appointed anybody to the US ambassadorship. No press releases means its premature to make assumptions. But lets take a look at 'Ambassadors' that have been named. Ambassador to Yemen- Siyad Barres son-GEDO Ambassador to Oman- Naaji- Somali Yemeni Ambassador to China- From Marka- From the clans of djibouti,Awdal etc Ambassador to UN- From Bulo burde- Hiiraan Clan Ambassador to Kenya- Not from yeys clan Ambassador to EU- Yey's 'clan' Now tell me where is the corruption? Where is the Siyad Barre like moves? Is the Presidents personal spokeperson now supposed to be divided in the 4.5? Your one quick character ya horn. When the ICU kicked Hiraale out you started to call them the 'entity'. When the alleged bombing in Kismayo happened and you perceived Afgaduud was behind the happenings, your stance has changed from Pro-TFGish to Clan man. But yet you speak of 'Somalis'. Give me a break saxiib. Flip flop, drip drop, and wherever Hiraale goes, only Horn shall know..... Where is Hiiraale young man? Is he not in Baidoa in support and in tune with the TFG? Does that not alone negate your cheaply put together rhetoric? Do you know what the difference is between a head of state and the institutions theirselves?

Originally posted by Baashi: lol Ahem! Idaamle editor is Somali and he is on the same page with Ina Yusuf as far as the TFG agenda (whatever that is) is concerned. If not him, who? On the other hand, this TFG is all about clan. No surprise there. May I remind you that the 4.5 formula leaves ample room for Ina Yussuf's sub-clan. They are just taking their share of the TFG positions! Remember TFG is made up of a group of armed warlords who agreed to share the token positions in the Transitional Institutions per clan qouta. The funny thing is this kind of political "bias" is not limited to the "non-entity" of TFG. Even Bush administration chose Tony Snow as their White House Spokesperson. Tony was far left neocon radio personality who later became FOX anchor. He does spin like there is no 2morrow. Baba this is the ugly side of politiking and its legit to pick ur team on the basis of their loyalty and their partisan credentials. It just so happened that ours is based on clan. Welcome to the "institutionalised" negative tribalism. It is a whole new ball game. Siyad Barre and the military jnta he led chose communism as an ideology of the state. They declared tribalism as the enemy of the state and allocated a budget in its eradication. They didn't follow through the program they instituted but at least in its haydays it was the stated line of the military government that politics based on clannism is a bad idea. Yet that system was accused of hidden clannish agenda and was opposed by clans for clannish reasons. Abdullahi was one of them. Think about it baba! Today is the opposite. The founders of the current framework of the Federal Institutions are riding at the back of 4.5 clan (segmentalized constituents) as the bedrock the political process of the post-conflict Somali state will anchor on Knowing the facts, as they are and not as they oughtta be, about nomad politiking what is it that made you frown upon hearing this news? No wonder no one takes you seriously anymore. Stop with the semantics and answer this; should the editor of Idamaale be the spokesperson of the presidential office in any situation let alone in a reconciliatory, transitional era? War miidnaan fakirayn? Why in the world does Abdulahi Yusuf boast about being the first to fight against what he perceived as the injustice and clan hegemony of one Siad Barre and at the same instance turn around and do something like this? Appoint a college dropout as the ambassador to White House, though by no instance is Washington ready to accept anything from Somalia, a young half-illiterate man as the ambassador to the U.N, and etc etc etc all because they are his "nephews". It is becoming more apparent, to Somalis at least, that all the criticism directed at Siad Barre was not based on the belief that he was nepotistic or what not but because it is they who wanted that sort of favoritism rather than the lip sung idea of fighting for Somali justice. Haraga saad u joogtaanba aayar usiiba, awalba waxba idin ma harine.

To compare, do the two in question not need to be in stature?

Blast from the past.

This is rather embarrassing and is showing Abdullahi Yusuf has not changed his ways. It is becoming more and more apparent that there is no plan at all except to continue to subjugate the masses using Ethiopian armour and brute force. Waxii lakala dheefo waa lakala arki, balse waxaa is waydiin mudan, how far does Abdulahi Yusuf and his supporters expect to go?

To summarize, Centurian is advocating Somalis are merely a mix between bantus and non-Africans, whereas David is arguing Somalis are not merely a simple mix but are part of a complex ancient population that might have even fathered the rest of the non-African populations. Intermediate position In general, populations cluster by geographic origin. The most distinct separation is between African and non-African populations. The northeastern-African -- that is, the Ethiopian and Somali -- populations are located centrally between sub-Saharan African and non-African populations." These studies suggest a recent and primary subdivision between African and non-African populations, high levels of divergence among African populations, and a recent shared common ancestry of non-African populations, from a population originating in Africa. The intermediate position, between African and non-African populations, that the Ethiopians and Somalis occupy in the PCA plot also has been observed in other genetic studies (Ritte et al. 1993; Passarino et al. 1998) and could be due either to shared common ancestry or to recent gene flow. The fact that the Ethiopians and Somalis have a subset of the sub-Saharan African haplotype diversity and that the non-African populations have a subset of the diversity present in Ethiopians and Somalis makes simple-admixture models less likely; rather, these observations support the hypothesis proposed by other nuclear-genetic studies (Tishkoff et al. 1996a, 1998a, 1998b; Kidd et al. 1998) that populations in northeastern Africa may have diverged from those in the rest of sub-Saharan Africa early in the history of modern African populations and that a subset of this northeastern-African population migrated out of Africa and populated the rest of the globe. These conclusions are supported by recent mtDNA analysis (Quintana-Murci et al. 1999). Very interesting quote that caught my eye. I guess David is on the ball? But David also said: Originally posted by David_Letterman: quote: Originally posted by Centurion: Dave, East Africans are more related to Eurasians than to other African populations. 1, 2, 3 Investigations of Y chromosome markers have shown that the East African populations were not significantly affected by the east bound Bantu expansion that took place approximately 3500 years ago, that's nonsense E3a is what West Africans carry E3b is what East Africans carry, both of them connect through the PN2-clade how are lineages like K2 or Rb1 closer to East Africans than E3a a direct descendant of E3? According to this information, as E3b is carried by by East Africans and Eurasians although it has origins in East Africa. How can you David argue that Somalis are not a mix but part of an ancient race who might also have fathered Eurasians and at the same instance argue Somalis are more related to sub-Saharan African populations then Eurasians at the expense of your own position that Somalis branched from sub-Saharan African populations early on in the game and fathered Eurasians according to the research you brought. That is one contradiction that garnered my attention. More information I did on the E3b.

Originally posted by Khalaf: ^^ I take my islam from "people who wallow in jaahiliyah." because i critic the icu methods and shady leadership? asxantu. A Khalaf, Rahima is one of few people here worthy of true respect. I do not believe she holds ulterior motives. It would have been better to ask her to expand herself more.

Interestingly enough, Khalaf is, in Somalia's clan ship makeup, closer to Abdulahi Yusuf then he could be to Hiiraale. The young lad did not even see the need to correct the childish and petty accusations coming from Nuune, Che, and Jimcaale. That I believe is a testament to his rising above cheap rhetoric and standing true to his convictions irrespective of the erroneous misconceptions held about him. Bal inanka xeel gaara!

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: You inturn need to grow out of this Horn-like weakness of being hyper sensetive to anything that remotely relates to Kismayo! [/QB] I am right here Xiinow. As you said, this is a forum, why must you address me in the third person? Ma cadaawad baad ii haysaa anigu waxaan islahaa sxbtinimadeeni baa weli sideedi heer sareda ahayd usii socoto? Khalaf- Allamagan waad gaftay. Do you not see the lion that faces us?

Who was it that said, where Xiin sits, you are sure to find Jimcaale! Intaa waa iga kaftan, lakin Jimcaalow, marba sida loo joogo kaftanku xigmad buu yeeshaa.

Allamagan- Kismaayo will be pacified. There need not be anymore bloodshed or vie for power. It is our dream that Somalia passes this moment of naming people based on tribal quotas as opposed to personal ability. Taa aan u duceeyno intaan xanjabaad iyo dagaal u fadhin lahayd. Adigu kuma haysto, wa taan kuligeen u baahanahay inaanu garanaa. Khalaf- It is raganimo to know your weakness adeerow. Fadhi-ku-dirir is an obstacle to a man deep in thought in understanding and promoting the best course for his people!

^^Your believe is wrong. I don't know what's up! Be counted adeer and give a try to tell us what you meant by your silly comment! I had to come back for this. Poor Xiin flustering in the face of a young lad's innocent observations. Why Xiin? Why must you spot after being shown your reflection or does it sting even more when the mirror is not carried by the usual handler? Good Oodweyne summed your recent behavior up rather nicely: For it’s true that I am in this moment(after I have read your little digs), force to look in a few months ago, and recalled how you pulled a fast one on us; when you have decided in a mid-course of the on-going race-rally(between the TFG and the then UICs) to changed political shirt, as it were on the go; and then turn up, on the same spot(as if nothing has happened); whilst you were sporting altogether different shirt from the one that you were wearing when the political match itself have started originally. Source The answer as to why you switched ships, however, lies in a response I gave to ina Libaax Sankataabte: Despite whatever Xiin might entertain the crowd here with, I know full well he threw away his TFG flag the day Abdulahi Yusuf legitimized Barre's control over the Jubbas and gave support to the building of Jubbaland. He was Baashi before his less than sincere neutrality was exposed. Caradiisu waa wax laysla wada ogyahay wax sidaas macne u lehna maaha. As for you, indulge me ina adeer, what is so xaaraan that was agreed upon do you know of? Source As I have said Xiin; Perhaps I wish to break you from this unfortunate habit of dancing for the audience? Source Raganimo intaad iska daydid, bal taada gudo.

Before I leave, Duke what about the 17 other groups who have objected? Two groups here. Another group here. Another group here. One of the most important sections of this very group the topic is about. Another group here. Etc etc etc

Red Sea- Adeer ii kaadi, xarashkaadu awalba wax qarsoon maahayne. I value everyone's opinion and take into consideration all things positive but you really should not be the dog that barked too much. Where has anything I have written been edited or has been worthy of being edited for a length of time now? This attempt to turn things into ulterior motives is rather habitual of you so I am wondering whether you sincerely believe our "moderator" is worthy of his position or playing your much practiced and perfected game of my enemy's enemy is my friend ala cyber? Are you sure we are on the same page? Allamagn- I sincerely believe it is my time to go. This individual's constant hypocrisy using the moderator position is the last straw that broke the camel's back. Sure ever since the ran from Baidoa by one Saransoor, this individual might have changed his views enough to rise to a pedestal for likes of Red Sea and Jabarjaan but his conduct and constant hypocrisy is certainly not becoming that of a moderator. He has considerably attacked my person individually using that position and he continues to blunder around the forum hypocritically oblivious to his own conduct or the breaking of the regulation he is supposed to uphold. The intriguing thing is he does it with the constant approval of the administration of this site. I have always relayed my complaints privately to them, but it has become apparent that they might even privately endorse his constant rather childish behavior when it comes to certain sections. You have my information and we will continue to be in touch inshallah. Farewell sxb.

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Garaad- Maxuu ******** noo hayaa aysan Soomaalinimo noo haynin :confused: [ February 14, 2007, 06:17 AM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

Wax walba waxaa ka daran inuu yiraahdo diif iska tiro oo istiraajadaan qaata! Miskaanka aan waxaan calaacal ka ahayn meesha lasoo shirtaga, Miskaan meeshaan baa layga haystaa iyo meesha baa layga xoogey lasoo shirtagay. Miskiinki tii ugu dambayse ka raacday calaacalku magaalada Baardheere kala soo shirtagay! Walle ceebey xaalkaa ba'! Axmed Gurey- The reason Miskiin was given the moderator position in the first place was the need for partiality and a conduct becoming that of a moderator. After the last moderator fiasco, Miskiin's was chosen by ina Libaax Sanka-taabte because of impartiality that I suspect was based more on an assumption of his ethnic background as opposed to anything else. This individual has failed in that endeavor and has become a poison thorn who has lost the confidence of many. I am happy to announce I will boycott this forum until something is looked into the need for clear and fair arbitrator. Fairwell friends, my time here has been a pleasure.

Maska maskuusan is ogeyn tallaw yaa qabta! Allamganow, hala yaabin maskiin waa neef xarig gale markii laguu faa'iidaysanayo. Obviously the administration is in support of his verbal diarrhea otherwise it would have been put to a stop long ago.

Originally posted by Axmad_Gurey: Col. Afgambeedle It is Col Afgabdeedle and I daresay they have heard of him!