The insurgency's growing popularity among Somalis proves the Somali people didn't resent the UIC's strict rule as much as they do the current government. Maybe the only thing support for or lack of it has anything to do with is the usual Somali deciding factor, clan interest? We cannot just choose Mogadishu to represent "Somali people" so let us include, say, Kismaayo! How come no lip from Kismaayo at the moment? No mass demonstrations, no chronic instability, no 100 protesting women being arrested at the same time, no anti-TFG positions? Can we not say that maybe, just maybe, the perceived clan orientation of the occupying forces changed and with that positions were switched? Is Mogadishu resisting Ethiopia or the clan perceived to be empowered by the TFG? Perhaps it is all and Mogadishu is resiting Ethiopia, the clan perceived to be empowered, and also in favor of Islam and Shareecada? Maybe that is more like it? Is that more centralist thinking? Telling question Kashafa, can you answer it? And while you're at it, take into consideration elder's organizing by clan and speaking in the name of clan rather than Islam, the telling of Ethiopia we have no qualms with you but the "clan" of the president, the ordering of Islamist fighters with faces covered to be shot on sight rather then bring the "clan" more harm by way of the War on "Terrorism", etc.

Originally posted by AYOUB: quote: Originally posted by N/AA: Someone should come here and do a social survey since this thread basically represents all the different characters with guns in our homeland. I guess that's why they named it somaliaonline. No prize for guessing who you're representing. Sidee ayaad doonaysaa inaan kuugu jawaabo bal aan ku su'aalee?

Dowladda Britain oo qaadacday inay aqoonsato Jamhuuriyada isku magacowday Somaliland. London , Jimco, March 23, 2007 Simba Radio Dowladda Britain ayaa ku gacan seertay codsi ku saabsan in Jamhuuriyadda iskeed isku magacowday ee Somaliland ay u aqoonsato dal madax banaan. Boqolaal qof ayaa saxiixay codsi ku saabsan in Somaliland loo aqoonsado dal madax banaan. Codsiga oo loo gudbiyay Ra'iisul Wasaaraha Britain Tony Blair ayaa lagu gacan seeray, taasi oo natiijadii ka dhalatay ay noqotay niyad jab baahsan oo soo wajahay Somaliland . Sida dal kasta oo caalamka ka jiraba taariikhda uu usoo maray ayaa Somaliland waxaa asiibay dhibaatooyin sii kordhaya, ayada oo dalkuna uu yahay mid soo hana qaadaya. Iminka waxaa jira weriyayaal u shaqeeya Jaraa'id oo xabsi ku jira. Kooxo dhowr ah oo ay ku jirto Amnesty International ayaa weriyayaashaasi u arka maxaabiis si qaldan ku xiran. Xoriyadda Warbaahinta ayaa ah xuquuqda aasaasiga ah ee dal kasta oo caalamka ka jira. Xal deg deg ah oo Somaliland ay u hesho dhibaatadan waxa ay ka caawin kartaa in quwadaha waa weyn ay u aqoonsadaan dal sharci ah oo madax banaan. Reer Somaliland waxa ay u shaqeynayeen sida dad heysta dal madax banaan oo kale in ka badan toban sanno. Laakiin isaga oo ka jawaabaya codsiga ayaa Ra'iisul Wasaaraha Britain Tony Blair, waxa uu sheegay in Dowladda Britain aysan Somaliland u aqoonsaneyn dal madax banaanasida dalalka ee Beesha Caalamkaba. Britain waxa ay saxiixday mowqif guud oo ay qaateen dalalka Midowga Yurub iyo iyo bayaano madaxeed badan oo ka soo baxay Golaha Ammaanka ee Jamciyadda Qurumaha ka dhaxeysa, kuwaasi oo lagu aqoonsaday xuduudaha iyo midnimada Somalia, sida uu sheegay Blair. "Siyaasadeeda waxa ay in muddo ah ahayd in dadka Soomaaliyeed ay go'aan ka gaaraan xiriirada mustaqbalka iyo in deriskooda iyo dalalka Africa ay qaataan hogaanka aqoonsiga ee qorshayaal kasta oo cusubo oo kusoo baxa wada hadal" ayuu yiri Blair. Blair ayaa sheegay in Dowladda Britain ay ku boorineyso Somaliland iyo Dowladda KMG ah ee Somalia ay yeeshaan wada hadallo, sidaa darteedna xalwaara ay gaaraan oo ku saabsan xiriirka mustaqbalkooda ay isku raacaan. Ugu dambeyntii waxuu sheegay inay Ururka Midowga Afrika ku boorinayaan inuu sahmiyo arrinta, isaga oo la kaashanaya qeybaha kale iyo kuwa wadaaga la ah ee muhimka ah, kuna yaala gobolka. Bashir Shurie Simba Radio London

Originally posted by Kashafa: Who's worse Head of the Madeenah Munafiqs(forgot hi sbname) I believe it was Saluul, Abdullahi ibn Saluul.

Kashafa- I have washed my a hands from, what would be called, the fluid and extremely versatile nature of Somali politics sxb. It is pointless and hypocritical to continue to advocate for special interest groups when the people continue to suffer and the country continues to fester in perpetual state of anarchy and stagnation. Duke is different in his stance but not extremely unique. However, I think you are an extremely respectable and honest lad for calling out Indhacade for what he is and that tells I and the forum a lot about your sincerity and genuineness and for that I salute you.

Someone should come here and do a social survey since this thread basically represents all the different characters with guns in our homeland.

Kashafa- I am sure you do not understand where Jaylaani is coming from nor would you align yourself with him if you did. Other then that, welcome back young man!

Heavy fighting breaks out in Mogadishu MOGADISHU, March 21 (Reuters) - Heavy fighting broke out in the Somali capital Mogadishu on Wednesday when the interim government's Ethiopian military allies were attacked, residents said. They said insurgents shot at Ethiopian tanks on the streets and that the Ethiopians fired back. There were no immediate reports of casualties. In the latest skirmish between government-allied forces and insurgents who carry out regular hit-and-run attacks on them, unidentified gunmen shot at the tanks and were answered by four shots from the tanks' cannons, residents said. The Ethiopians also fired several rockets at the Mogadishu stadium, where residents said some insurgents had dug themselves in, residents said. The fighting broke out near a government base in the former defence ministry headquarters, where insurgents have repeatedly struck at government and Ethiopian soldiers based there. The interim government is struggling to tame Mogadishu, after it took over the city in late December during a brief war in which it and Ethiopia routed a militant Islamist group that ruled most of southern Somalia for the last half of 2006. African Union peacekeepers from Uganda are also there to help the government gain control of the anarchic Horn of Africa nation. Like the Ethiopians, they are viewed as foreign invaders by many Somalis and are therefore targeted. Many believe the defeated Islamists, along with disgruntled clan and warlord militiamen, are behind the attacks, which often start with just a handful of gunmen striking with mortars before melting back into the coastal capital's warrens. In most cases, the attacks prompt retaliatory fire and civilians are usually the victims of the crossfire. This government is the 14th attempt at establishing central rule since warlords ended it by toppling dictator Mohamed Siad Barre in 1991, ushering in an era of anarchy and violence.

MUQDISHO: Wasiirka Arrimaha Gudaha, Duqa Magaalada Muqdisho & xubno kale oo laga cabsi qabo inay is casilaan Posted to the Web Mar 21, 08:10 Muqdisho (PP) – Warar laga helayo ilo wareedyo ku dhow dowlada ayaa waxay sheegayaan in Wasiirka Arrimaha Gudaha Soomaaliya Maxamed Maxamuud Guuleed (Gacm0-dheere), Duqa Magaalada Muqdisho Cadde Gaaboow Iyo Xasan Cabdulle Qalaad oo ka tirsan Maamulka Gobolka Banaadir ay wadaan qorshayaal ku aaddan sidii ay warqado casilaad ah ugu gudbin lahaa Madaxweynaha Soomaaliya C/llaahi Yuusuf Axmed iyo Ra’iisul wasaare Geeddi oo labaduba ku sugan Muqdisho. Warkaan ayaa wuxuu sheegaya in arritaan ay ka dhalatay kadib markii saddexdaan mas’uul la sheegay in loo diiday shalay gallinkii dambe inay galaan xarunta Madaxtooyada Soomaaliya oo uu shir uga socday Saddex mas’uul ee ugu sarreysa Dowladda. Xubnahaan ayaa waxaa la sheegay in albaabka hore ee Madaxtooyada uu ka horistaagay inay galaan sarkaal ka tirsan ciidammada Dowladda oo lagu magacaabo Dhiig-sokeeye sida wararku sheegayaan. Sarkaalkaan iyo mas’uuliyiintaan ayaa waxaa la sheegay inay dhex martay dood aad u kulul, taasoo sababtay inay markii dambe mas’uuliyiintaan ka tagaan xarunta Madaxtooyada ayna taleefoon ugu sheegaan Madaxweynaha iyo Ra’iisul wasaaraha qaabka loola dhaqmay. Ma jiraan wax istiqaalad ah oo ay illaa iyo hadda gudbiyeen xubnahaan, sidoo kalena ma jiraan war ka soo baxay oo sheegaya inay istiqaalada iska gudbinayaan oo aan ka ahayn wararka laga helayo xubno ka tirsan dowladda oo diiday in magacyadooda la xuso. Wasiirka Arrimaha Gudaha Soomaaliya Maxamed Maxamuud Guuleed (Gacm0-dheere) ayaa madaxa xubno ka tirsan dowladda oo loo xilsaaray ammaanka Magaalada Muqdisho sidii ay u sugi lahaayeen, lamana garanayo haddii uu iscasilo cidda hoggaanka u noqon doonta sugidda Ammaanka Muqdisho oo uu isagu madaxda ka ahaa. Maxamed Xuseen Jantiile Wakiilka Puntlandpost - Mogadishu E-mail: jantiile@gmail.com

Dhubad, according to what Miskiin is famous for in politics, we should ask if you came to Baardheere in 1991.

Parents in a nearby district of mine took Al Gore's new movie about global warming off the lesson list, I wonder how the district officials would even bing up the idea of pro-Gay books. I have long come to the conclusion that Gay Marriage is more likely to be legalized in one of the so-called "secular" Muslim nations then the United States and that says it all.

Adeer allaa boqor ah. As for the Clan-family you allude to, never has a central figure ruled them traditionally, nor does he now, and the future is only for God to tell. So please, limit the blatant clannishness that emanates from this post as well as other posts of yours.

Adeerow, ilahaan kugu dhaariyee ma waxaanoo kalaa lalasoo shirtagaa? Aduunka walle la yaab ma le.

Shir Maanta Waxgaradka Gedo Uga Furmay Magaalada Madaxda Garbahaarey Mar 18,2007 by Garbahaarey-GEDO-NN Shir ay ka soo qayb galeen in ka badan 100 ergay oo ka mid ah waxgarad-ka gobalka Gedo ayaa saakay 9:00 subaxnimo ka furmay degmada Garbahaarrey ee xarunta gobalka Gedo. Shirkan oo ay soo agaasintay beesha reer Garaad oo ka mid ah beelaha **** ayaa waxaa ajandayaashiisa lagu sheegay: taageeridda dadaalada dib-uheshiisiinta ee ay hagayso dawlada Soomaaliya, wadaxaajoodyo ku saabsan khilaaf kataagan maamulka sare ee G/Gedo iyo qodobka saddexaad oo ah beesha shirka soo abaabushay oo cabashooyin u soo gudbinayso waxgarad-ka **** ee shirka ka qayb-galayo. hirka ayaa waxaa ugu horrayntii lagu aftaxay Aayado Qur’aan ah iyo wacdi diini ah, waxana markaa ka dib lagu soo dhaweeyay indheer-garad ka tirsan beesha Reer Garaad **** oo ah qabanqaabiyayaasha kulan-ka, waxana madasha shirka qudbooyin dheer-dheer ka aqriyay xubnaha kala ah: Sheekh Maxamuud Sheekh C/llaahi Ow cali, Sheekh Cali Cabdi Maxamuud iyo nabadoon Axmed Maxamed Faarax (Indha-yare) Waxayna waxgarad-kaasi ku nuux-nuuxsadeen labo qodob oo kala ah: in ay gacantooda ka baxday jegada gudoomiyaha gobalka Gedo oo ay sheegeen in ay ayagu xaq u lahaayeen, kadib markii ay horay ugu magacawday dawladda Soomaaliya, isla markaana ay iyaga u qoondaysay beesha **** iyo qodobka kale oo ah ergo ama codsi ay u soo jeediyeen wufuuda shirka ayaga oo waxgarad-ka **** ka dalbaday in dib loogu soo celiyo mansab-ka barasaabnimada G/Gedo. Waxgarad-ka ka soo jeedo beesha Reer Garaad ee shirka ka hadlay ayaa ka gaabsaday in ay cid gaar ah farta ku fiiqaan ama ay eedo dusha kaga tuuraan, waxayna si guud ula hadleen ergoyinka **** ee madasha fadhiyay iyaga oo qudbadahooda ku koobay cabasho guud iyo codsi waxqabad. Mar aanu waydiinay qaar ka mid ah waxgaradkaasi bal in ay cid gaar ah oo ka tirsan masuuliinta **** ku tuhmayaan maal-marinta maamulka cusub ee dhawaan loo yegleelay G/Gedo ayay arrinkaasi si weyn isaga fogeeyeen, waxayna maamulka cusub ku tilmaameen mid uu iskii u magacaabay madaxweynaha DFKMG ah ee Soomaaliya. Indheer-garad **** ee shirka ka qaybgalayay ayaa si xushmadu ku jirto u aqbalay ergada ama cabashada ay soo bandhigtay beesha shirka yagleeshay, waxana tillaabadani gudoomiyay Ugaas Cumar Ugaas Xirsi Ugaas Beesha ****, hase ahaatee waxaa miiska wadahadalada la soo saaray su’aalo ay soo bandhigeen qaybo ka mid ah ka qayb-galayaasha shirka, su’aalahaas oo ku saabsan sida loo magacaabay maamulka cusub ee Gedo, cidda ka danbaysay, saamaynta uu shirkani ku yeelan karo dib u badalidda maamulkan iyo sida madaxweyne C/llaahi Yuusuf looga dhaadhicin karo ka tanaasulidda maamul uu ku magacaabay shirciga milatari ee uu dalka ku soo roogay isla markaana lagu magacaabay inta badan maamulada gobalada dalka. Xilli lagu jiro falanqaynta aganadayaasha shirka ayaa waxaa madasha shirka soo gaartay qaylo dhaan ku saabsan dhimasho iyo dhibaato caafimaad oo goob u dhow Garbahaarrey ku haleeshay dad ka soo kicitimay degmada B/dheere oo uu si weyn u hareeyay cudurka shuban-biyood-ka. Waxana goobtaasi oo 15 km u jirto Garbahaarrey uu cudurkaasi ku dilay hal qof oo ka mid ahaa dadkii safrayay halka uu qof kalana la ildaranyahay, waxayna dhacdadani naxdinta leh saamayn ku yeelatay horay-usocodkii shirka ee maanta ayada oo ugu danbayntii la go’aansaday in dadkaasi gurmad loo fidiyo, kadibna ay ergooyinku dib usugu yimaadan maalinimada barri ah, si loo xaqiijiyo horay-usocodka shirka. Qaadida ergada iyo aqbalaada cabashooyinka sidan oo kale ah ayaa dhaqan ahaan loo arkaa arrin muqddas ah sida ay xusayaan xubno xeer-beegti ah, waxana markaasi ka dib loo daadagaa falan-qaynta iyo faaqidaada sababaha la xariiro dhacdada laga cabanayo ayada oo maraa ka dibna lagu dhaqaaqo xal u helidda mashaakilkaasi. Axmed Maxamed Caafi, Gedo News Network, Gedo, Soomaaliya.

Col. Fartaag Oo Ku Jira Isbitaal Ku Yaala Adisa Ababa Oo Ka Warbixiyay Xaaladiisa Mar 17,2007 by Kismaayo-GEDO-NN Col: Cabdullaahi Sheekh ismaaciil Fartaag oo ka tirsan saraakiisha Sarsare ee Xoogga dalka ayaa markii ugu horaysay ka warbixiyay Xaaladiisa Caafimaad ee dhaawacii ka soo gaaray qaraxii 11kii febraayo lala beegsaday Beerta xorriyada Kismaayo. Isagoo khadka taleefanka ugu waramayay Gedonet ayuu kornaylka oo lagu dawaynayo isbitaal ku yaala magaalada Adisababa ee Xarunta dalka Itoobiya, waxaa uu sheegay in uu Wanaagsan yahay islamarkaana uu filayo in dhawaan uu ka soo baxo isbitaalka. “Xaalkaygu waa wanaagsan yahay waa la ii kabay lugta, waxaana aan bilaabay in aan biro ku socdo, waana ilaahay Mahadi” ayuu yiri Fartaag oo isaga iyo 3 kale oo ka tirsan saraakiisha dawlada lagu dawaynayo Adis ababa. Col. Cabdullahi Fartaag ayaa ku tilmamaay qaraxii uu ku dhaawacmay in ay fuliyeen dad ka soo horjeeda qaranimada Soomaaliyeed mar uuna la soo qaban doono. Waxaana uu ugu baaqay qaybaha Ciidamada Soomaliya in ay xoojiyaan midnimadooda iyo isku duubnimadooda. Dhammaan ciidanka xoogga ee jubbooyinka jooga waxaan ugu baaqayaa in ay wada jiraan oo ay dadka iyo dalka u shaqeeyaan si loo soo celiyo sharafteena” ayuu yiri Taliyahii guutada saddexaad ee Xooga dalka Cabdullaahi Sheekh ismaaciil fartaag. 11kii febraayo ayuu ku dhaawacmay qarax lala beegsaday beerta Xorriyada Kismaayo oo ay ka dhacaysay xaflad milatari dad badana ay isugu yimaadeen. Waxaana sidoo kale, halkaas ku dhaawacmay saraakiil kale uu ka mid yahay taliyaha qaybaha Booliiska ee jubbooyinka General Axmed Muuse Busul iyo taliyaha nabadsugida j/hoose C/laahi C/raxmaan Midgaanow. N D F-GEDO-NN-Kismaayo

Originally posted by Captain Xalane: Honestly,nothing gives me pleasure than see fellows like u embarrassing themselves over and over again. Oh so you're a man that cares about reputation now I see. Interesting. Could have fooled all of us if I say so myself.

Does my moral stance cut you deep? Judging by your reaction, I would say all is not lost. Only a feeling man cares and you my friend are not as icy as you would like us to believe.

Somehow I think emotion affects you more then the average individual. What sort of demons are you running from when you show unrelenting lack of mercy at the misfortune of others?

Are you sure you have the right person? Indeed are you even sure you are talking to the right person? For one I suggest you space your sentences and in the second thoroughly understand why cyper mediums such as this exist.

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Originally posted by Captain Xalane: A flip flopper accusing some one of tribal bigotry is no miracle.Economist has a point,there are pple who unlawfully occupy houses,farms,Government buildings and etc,that doesn't belong to them. A flip flopper you say? Is that supposed to be some sort of insult coming from a soul that has no conscience, that cannot deduce between right and wrong, humanity and lack of? You have a problem admitting your wrongs and psychologically I am not in the mood to analyze it. Halkaa nagu kala reeb.

Originally posted by TheSomaliEconomist: The ppl that are fleeing, have been qaxootis in Mogadishu during the last decades that past. It's reer badi ppl that moved in to the city when the earlier city ppl left at the outbreak of the first civil war. They are mostly the ppl that have unseemly been occopying government and public buildings. Most certainly there is a number of actual "normal civilians" fleeing from their right homes but the largest number fall in the group that was earlier mentioned. Economist you are a shameful tribal ******* and until your kind are alive, never will see complete peace. Do you know anything about "do unto others what you want them to do to you"? Besides that I have had family members fleeing Mogadishu and they are most certainly not new to that city! [ March 15, 2007, 11:55 PM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

Originally posted by Captain Xalane: The only thing i can see in those clips,is nothing but the beauty of war Spoken like a man who has never picked up a weapon nor stepped near a battle field! Adeer kolay adigu waxaadu iyo meeshaad ka socotid wax qaarsoon maahe nidaam ciidan iyo hab military haysku qarin!

Olol, your topic title makes no sense! Who puppeteered? The innocent child that was killed by the misfired mortar and his wounded brothers or did you misread and believe Abdulahi Yusuf's child and brothers were the causalities?

JB, it is out of necessity. Morgan was unfortunately born with a cleft lip, what Somalis call "faruur". The mustache has always been there to hide the natural deformity.