Emperor, I believe Al Shabaab is a pure grouping. Pure in the sense the core believers are truly devoid of clannism, nepotism, and corruption. The avowed supporters, however, I am apt to reserve my endorsement of them until I am sure. There are many who exhale their praise only because they believe Al Shabaab is the salvation of their clan and others still who support them for convienance, that is they believe a certain action or campaign of theirs is parallel to their own. A good example of this is Jimcaale and his very vocal support for a perceived rumour that Al Shabaab was operating in Kismaayo area only to turn around and start clapping for the TFG after the rumour was proven to be what it was; just a rumour. This is not limited to Kismaayo itself. Recently a contact of mine became very supportive of Al Shabaab so much so that I questioned if a miracle angel had visited him overnight and breathed faith into his heart. How intrigued was I only to find out, by himself no less, that now that the Cadaado clan was disarmed, his clans villages just to the north would not be underthreat. MInd you this was still support and endorsement of Al Shabaab's campaigns, but the question that begs to be asked is was it the right support? Clearly no and so this is why I responded with "inamal acmaalu biniyaati". True Al Shabaab have something special in them, something almost translucent...their sincere feelings that is! Their actions, and conduct, and even their psychology is almost always following a similar fashion and a little remiss is enough to make me doubt the sincerity of the supporter. This is also why I said "inamal acmaalu biniyaati". I am not soothsayer, nay, I am not nor am I a seer but I am very perceptive to the honesty of character and this is why I doubt!

Inamal acmaalu biniyaati!

Originally posted by Laba_Xiniinyood: quote:Originally posted by HornAfrique: quote: Originally posted by Jimcaale: I suggest the psychotic kid should get too religious about his persona instead of playing elevated soul to chastise others. Looks like a personal insult to me. Looks like Jimcaale's got himself a fan... * affinity after exposure alert! * . The alert concerns grown men and the case of cheer leading.

Clap, clap adeer you have debased Horn. You have debased the integrity of a cyber character who has been on this forum for over 6 years, has never had reason to hide his feeling, has never been shy of his political stances, has a length of forum history that could objectively speak for him, and in effect has never been one to speak in tongues and dodge from speaking bluntly and clearly as possible. You are almost entertaining. That is if I was more apt to laugh because of you rather than at you. Juvenile? You betcha; then again what about your handicapped cacophony was not? You are Dismissed adeer and I say that sincerely. Like I said previously, leave SmithNWestern and HornAfrique to themselves. They do not need middlemen.

Originally posted by Jimcaale: I suggest the psychotic kid should get too religious about his persona instead of playing elevated soul to chastise others. Looks like a personal insult to me.

Ragu ileen qaar baa xanta ku dheereeyo.

Emperor, one look around the forum and I notice Lazy seems to have been doing a lot of clapping for Abdullahi Yusuf recently. Perhaps this is only following that pattern? Jimcaale, interesting how the rest of the forum now understands your sour sense of humor. I almost feel less special. What I cannot comprehend for the life of me, however, is why post a pro-Al Shabaab topic concerning Kismaayo and attack them in their fight against the TFG as you have been doing recently. Taasi xishood la'aanba maaha ee waa waali, bisinka qabso faataxana isku akhri bal xoogaa inaad kasoo raysid.

Stop wallowing yourself in the glories of yesteryears sxb Speaks volumes I say. p.s. Hadaan Duke cidiisa ama "qabiilkiisa" aan necbahay ama aan jeclahayba umaan baahnin in nalasoo dhex galo. Adigu un ha lug-go'in.

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Xishood kaa dhamaa ee afka iyo gacmaha yaysan ku qaloocan. If Yusuf expires tonight, I wonder if you will continue to defend the Xabashi infidels that desecrated on Allah's house of worship in the very city I was born in. Few people lost as much as I did in 1991. Don't you dare evoke 1991 to justify the destruction and senseless loss of life Yusuf and his Xabashi overlords are subjecting Muqdisho to in this very second.

Originally posted by Koora-Tuunshe: ^Ma reer Gedood baa ninku? Koora, maaha ee waa reer Galgaduud. Kaftan aside, he is a good family friend and I am familiar with this piece. that each side comes to the table with 'what to them is a legitimate grievance' but when viewed objectively is ridiculous.. Geeljiraa isha ka tuuray.

Kooro, Qaasim taariikh saxiix ah weeye muusan oran...qolo walba waxay lasoo shirtagto ayuu soo bandhigo waana run ee wax Soomaali ku cusub maaha. Qolo walba dood gaar ah ayay leedahay ee ku caan baxday

Here is another piece by Qaasim Duulaan Jecel SOMALIA, THE NATION DESTROYED BY ITS OLD MEN:By Dr.Qasim H Faarax Duulaanjecel Dec 20,2007 In Baidawo town of Somalia, there is a structure of governmental administration in place, despite being paralyzed. There is an accommodation for 275 Member of Parliaments (hereafter MPs). Close to one hundred of them were once announced to be Cabinet Ministers at the same time. Again, the clusters were dissolved and the Prime Minister (hereafter PM) announced their reselection. This is what is known as Transitional Federal Government (hereafter TFG). Down tracking to the theme, almost half of those once publicized members never or rarely visit the headquartered town. They live outside the country in order to safe themselves from possible death. In this case, the TFG is still partially in exile. For instance, the two old men acting as Heads of the State never spend one full month inside the country. They spend their time in Addis Ababa, the capital city of Ethiopia for one or more weeks. Then, after one or two weeks, they fly to Nairobi, the capital city of Kenya or elsewhere. Like them, majority of the MPs fly forward and backward between the three neighboring countries, which are Somalia, Kenya, and Ethiopia. They always keep their return tickets in their serviettes. This is exactly how Somali proverb goes to say; “I have one leg inside the game and the other outside. If the game goes well, I have my both legs inside, but if not, I have both of them outside”. Now, let’s analyze why the TFG cannot move forward in order to function as a national administrative authority. The theme will also identify why Somalia has been suffering from manmade destruction since its onset. In a short form, the answer is that Somali Elders never allow the effective power of the nation to be active. Instead, their neglected accountability was to insist in training and inspiring the young generations so that they will be enable to overtaking the national responsibility. The effective power is the energetic boys and girls who are ready to handle their country’s development. In this Article, we intend to analyze the matter from cultural perspective. Traditionally speaking, Somali culture underestimates the roles of the youth and women. It is common culture to criticize badly any young man who may try to express his opinion in a matter of discussion. The automatic response to his idea is to attack him verbally to say “you, silent, you see there is a man older than you right here! How do you dare to speak in front of the elders”? Then, the young man, being ashamed, quiets and quits the discussion. In fact, this is when the young man was given the chance to participate in the discussion, but most of the chances are never being given. No man is allowed to be a responsible before attaining the age of 40 years old. Any one below forty years of age is considered as 20 years old, where Somali proverb goes to say “20 years old can jump out of an idea as he can jump out of a tree”. Therefore, if you speak while you are at the age 20s to 30s, the automatic response in store for you is nothing, but “shut up! you are still in your 20s”. In the case of women, at any age, it is almost impossible for any woman to be involved in community discussion, even at the lowest level. She may not be allowed to comment on the future of her own household, leave alone that of the nation. Somalis curse one another to say “May God put your decision and advice under woman’s legs” (Taladaada tafo naagood Alla dhig). It is worth to note that one of the few literatures written in Somali language was entitled “Allow Dumar Talo Malaga Dayey”! meaning “Oh, My God, advise was sought from women”! This is the case of the Somali women, no matter of one’s level of education, intellectual capacity, activeness, creativeness, and capability. Apparently, nowadays, men started asking women to pay their wealth and leave the decision for the male elders. In a profound discussion on the theme, what is the best recognition we can give to the so-called TFG in Baidowo town? Shall we call their center as headquarter of national government or senior day-care center? At its current situation, we can definitely recognize it as a senior day-care center, rather than government. Nearly 100 Cabinet Ministers and their auxiliaries were recently announced as the Executive Branch of the TFG, but only 10 out of 100 were below 40 years of age. Some of them were senior officers in the first Somalia Administrative Authority or Government ever formed in the history of mankind. That was in the middle of the last century- 1950-1960, while others were camel headers at the time. Both the Prime Minister and the President are in the middle of their 80s in age. Since the old Somalis had never had municipal documents, they may hide some years, in order to make themselves younger than the age they appear to be. However, the fact should be known from other reliable sources and from facial appearance, etc. (their ages will be clarified in other topics, but not here). Furthermore, the country’s constitution states the first and foremost condition of being one of the government’s senior officers, one must attain at the age of 40 years old and above without limitation. That means even if you are older than 140 years old, you can still hold a senior position in the country. Surprisingly, the constitution of Somalia is the only one that do not mention about retirement, despite it has been prescribed in the international law, and that of the International Labor Organization -ILO. In the respective countries of our contemporary world, retirement age ranges from 55-70 years old depending on the country of concern. In the context, let’s discuss about the role of the old men in destroying the country by avoiding any contribution to be made by its youths and women. They do not only block their development and contribution, but wage direct wars against them. The old men had never had qualification or working experience in good governance. Though we are in 2008, they still think we are in early 1940s. They used to hold community meetings and artificial mediations under a tree without chairs and tables. In this case, it seems, needless to mention about pen, paper, computer, and modern technology or communication skills. The Somali old men are those who grown up in constant attacks and counter-attacks between two or more neighborhood rival clans, and this is what they chiefly understand. For instance, if you pay attention to Abdulahi Yusuf, the President of the TFG addressing to public, you would find him condemning or criticizing at least one of the clans. Some times, you may find him praising another clan simply because they dominated or attacked one of the clans that he hates. If you hear the President of the wide-nation talking like that or behaving similarly, do not get shocked, because that is exactly how most of the old men have been behaving from their childhood. The Prophet Mohamed May peace Be Upon Him said “man shaaba Alaa shay’in shabba alaihi”, meaning “Each gets old with what he/she used to do during youth-hood”. Additionally, all their decisions are based on the past such as old administrative systems and nomadic lifestyle. Add that, Somalia had never had experience in urbanization, administration, proper settlement, and good governance. They did not also have sufficient knowledge about their faith and the modern education as well. The common sense approves that youths talk about future and development, while old persons talk about history and remembrance. Perhaps, each of the two generations has a reason to demonstrate so. The young needs to build his or her future brightly, while the old one have already taken their share in this world, and need only to remember about their past. In other words, the old generation attempts to hinder any progress that was supposed to be made by the young generation. Their motto is “May we never come across something out of our custom” (Allow wax aan noo horeyn jirin yey noo dambeyn). A sensible person can read between the lines of their attitude that the old men produced children, but they never want them to grow up. They degrade and pollute the natural environment by cutting the trees, and grafting illegal commissions or bribes from Eco-Mafia Companies to dump hazardous toxics in the seashore of the country. They also refuse their youths to come together, discuss about their future, and contribute to the betterment of their home, leave alone to give them the chance. Obviously, this means they never want another generation to survive and dwell in this world after they leave it. In the following pages of this Article, we would explore how youths would be constructively useful to their country and how old men are obstacle to them, by rejecting both their manpower and intellectual capacity. The same happens to the women as they have been considered and treated with as half human being, and then, their manpower has been radically neglected. Then, we will conclude some suggestions towards how the generation of this century should get back their deprived rights. Continuous next week… BY: Dr. QAASIM HIRSI FARAH, Ph.D. Toronto, Canada Email: qaasim@mail.com Source

Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: Waar nimankan waa lagugu salliday uun niyow ,, inta yar eed ka hadasho uun maxaa tusay horta ?? Awoowgey baa igu oran jiray wax walbaabaad ka jawaabi karayn "allahu aclam" dhe.

Emporer alla hurdada kaasoo toosiyey. Toos wacan. Hunguri, rageedi baad tahay hadaad 35 digital camera maalin qura Badhan u dirtay. Waa arrin xusid mudan. Paragon, duqa waan ku salaamay. JB, ma dhib baa laygu hayaa?

Xildhibaanno ka tirsan Baarlamaanka oo Kismaayo gaaray, shirarna la leh Siyaasiyiinta iyo Waxgaradka Gobolka Jubbada Hoose Sabti, March 29, 2008(HOL): Magaalada Kismaayo ee Xarunta u ah Gobolka Jubbada Hoose ayaa waxaa xalay gaaray Afar Xildhibaan oo ka tirsan Baarlamaanka Soomaaliya, kuwaasi oo socdaallo ku soo kala bixiyay Gobollada Gedo iyo Jubbada Dhexe. Xildhibaannadan oo kala ah Col. Barre Aadan Shire Hiiraale, Jen. Axmed Warsame, Yuusuf Kaanti iyo Nuur Mataan Biriq ayaa waxaa xalay si weyn loogu soo dhaweeyay Magaalada Kismaayo, iyagoo la dejiyay Hotelka Waamo ee Magaaladaas. Xaflad soo dhaweyn ah oo Xildhibaannada loogu sameeyay Hotelka Waamo ayaa waxaa ka hadlay Guddoomiye ku xigeenka Gobolka Jubbada Dhexe Axmed Cabdi Cumar (Axmed Sandheere), kaasi oo Xildhibaannada u sheegay in looga fadhiyo in ay wax ka qabtaan dhibaatooyinka ka jira Gobollada Jubbooyinka. Intaas kadib waxaa isna hadal kooban jeediyay Xildhibaan Barre Aadan Shire Hiiraale oo horay madax uga ahaa Isbaheysigii Dooxada Jubba ee ka talin jiray Gobollada Jubbooyinka, wuxuuna sheegay in ay war weyn u wadaan Dadka Gobollada Jubbooyinka, iyagana looga baahan yahay in ay taladooda keenaan. Xildhibaannada gaaray Magaalada Kismaayo ayaanan la ogeyn waxa ay u tageen Magaaladaas, inkastoo ay jiraan warar sheegaya in ay doonayaan inay Gobollada Jubbooyinka iyo Gobolka Gedo ka hirgeliyaan Maamul Goboleed la magac baxay Jubbaland. Si kastaba arrintu ha ahaatee, Socdaalka ay Xildhibaannada ku tageen Magaalada Kismaayo ayaa wuxuu ku soo beegmayaa iyadoo mar sii horeysay uu Madaxweynaha Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliya C/llaahi Yuusuf Axmed uu sheegay in aaney Dowladda ka talin Magaalada Kismaayo, isla markaana ay halkaasi ka taliyaan Qabiillo, iyadoo warkaasina ay si weyn uga xumaadeen Dad ku dhaqan Magaalada Kismaayo oo Waxgarad iyo Siyaasiyiin leh. Salaad Iidow Xasan (Xiis), Hiiraan Online sxiis@hiiraan.com Mogadishu, Somalia

Kismaayo: Wafuud uu hogaaminayo Xildhibaan Barre Hiiraale oo kulamo la yeelanaya Maamulka gacanta ku haya Magaalada Kismaayo. 29. marts 2008 APL Kismaayo (AllPuntland) - Wafdi uu hogaaminayo Xildhibaan Barre Hiiraale oo xalay gaaray Magaalada Kismaayo ayaa kulamo la bilaabay Maamulka gacanta ku haya Magaalada Kismaayo. Wafdiga uu hogaaminayo Xildhibaankan ka tirsan baarlamaanka soomaaliya waxaa ka mid ah Xildhibaan Gen. Axmed Warsame iyo Xildhibaan Yuusuf Kaante, waxaana socdaalkooda lagu sheegay arrimo siyaasadeed. Markii uu gaadhay Barre Hiiraale Magaalada Kismaayo waxaa si weyn magaaladaas ugu soo dhoweyay dad weyne aad u fara badan, waxaana la filayaa inuu dhowaan meel fagaaro ah kala hadlo. Qalalaasaha iyo rabshadaha ka dhaca Magaaladaas xeebta leh ayay Xildhibaanada ka socda baarlamaanka la filayaa in ay u wajahaan xalinteeda qaab beeleed, bacdamaa magaaladaas horay looga soo saaray maamul ay dowladda u magacowday. Xubnahan Xildhibaanada ayaa kulamo la leh waxgaradka beesha **** iyo maamulka gacanta ku haya magaaladaas oo wali usuura geli la'dahay maleeshiyo beeleedyada qaska ka wada magaalada. Cabdicasiis Maxamed AllPuntland

Xildhibaan Barre Hiiraale oo si weyn loogu soo dhaweeyay Kismaayo Kismaayo 29 march/2008 Waagacusub.com Xildhibaan Barre Aadan Shire "Barre Hiiraale" iyo Wafdi uu hogaaaminayo oo kasoo ambabaxay magaalada Baardheere ee gobaka Gedo ayaa shalay gaaray magaalada Kismaayo ee xarunta gobalka Jubbada Hoose. Xildhibaanka iyo Wafdigiisa waxaa soo dhaweeyay mas'uuliyiin ka tirsan maamulka Jubbada Hoose iyo Dadweyne aad u fara badan kuwaaso ruxayay caleemo qoyan kuna dhawaaqayay erayo uu madaxa u ruxay Barre Hiiraale. Wafdiga uu hogaaminayay Xildhibaan Barre Hiiraale ayaa kamid ahaa Gen. Axmed Warsame Maxamed, Mataan Cabdi iyo Yuusuf Kaanti oo iyagoo dhoola cadeynaya lagu soo wareejiyay magaalada Kismaayo. Barre Hiiraale oo muddo ka maqnaa Kismaayo ayaa u ekaa mid ku faraxsan imaanshiyahiisa, waxuuna shacabka u garaacayay dadweynaha kusoo dhaweeyay magaalada Kismaayo. Xiriiro aan la sameynay maamulka Kismaayo ayay ka gaabsadeen inay ka hadlaan ujeedka socdaalka Barre Hiiraale uu ku yimid Kismaayo, iyadoo xiriir aan la sameynay Baardheere ay sheegeyn inaysan la socon socdaalka Barre isla markaana uu degmadaasi ka baxay xili habeen aheyd oo inta badan dadweynaha jiifeen. Waxaa xusid mudan in Barre Hiiraale ay la socdaan in ka badan 12-gaadiida dagaalka ah kuwaaso ay wateen ciidamada maamulka Gedo Land oo muddooyinkii ugu dambeeyay sameynta maamulkaasi ku howlanaa xildhibaanka iyo mas'uuliyiinta socdaalkiisa ku wehlisa. Si kastaba ha ahaatee, Barre Hiiraale ayaa magaalada Kismaayo waxaa ka bixiyeen Maxkamadihii Islaamiga kadib markii mas'uuliyiin ka tirsaneed Isbaheysigiisa ay kasoo jeesteen safkii Maxkamadaha Islaamiga taasoo keentay inuu dharaar cad magaalada isaga baxo. Xafiiska Wararka Waagacusub Media Muqdisho-Somaalia

Wafti maanta ka ambabaxay magaalada Kismaayo oo aaday degmada Afmadow Xubno wafti oo isugu jira siyaasiyiin iyo hoggaamiye dhaqameed ayaa maanta ka ambabaxay magaalada Kismaayo, kuwaasoo u kicitimay degmada Afmadow ee gobolkan J/hoose, halkaasoo la sheegay in ay kaga qeybgali doonaan kulan nabadeed ka dhacaya oo ay yeelanayaan laba kamid ah beelaha dega gobolada Jubbooyinka. Xubnahan oo ka kooban 8 xubnood ayaa waxaa hoggaaminaya suldaanka beesha **** ee gobolka J/hoose Suldaan Maxamed Bashiir Madoobe Yarow, waxaana socdaalka qeyb ka ah Maxamuud Cali Magan oo ahaan jiray safiir, Col: Ismaaciil Haaruun, Xayle Cabdi Faarax, Nabdoon Cabdi Warsame Gurux, Nabdoon Cali Diirshe Danan, Bille Cabdille Cabdi iyo xubno kale. Ujeedada safarkooda Afmadow ayaa lagu sheegay in ay la xiriirto arrimo dib u heshiisiineed iyo qorshaha barnaamijka maamul u sameynta gobolada Jubbooyinka ee Jubbaland State. Afhayeenka beesha **** ee gobolka J/hoose Xasan Maxamed Cali (Dheere) oo warbaahinta la hadlay kadib markii ay baxeen waftiga ayaa sheegay in ay martiqaad rasmi ah ka heleen Suldaan Cabdi Cali Sonkor oo ah suldaanka beesha ****** ee gobolka J/hoose, islamarkaana buu yiri ay kala soo hadli doonaan sidii loo nabadeyn lahaa beelaha ishaya, looguna sii gudbi lahaa sees u qotominta maamulka goboleedka Jubbaland oo ah arrin si aad ah looga hadal hayo halkan. Marka ugu horeysay oo ay gaaraan degmada Afmadow waftigan oo 6 kamid ah ka soo jeeda beesha **** ayaa la filayaa in ay kulan gaar ah oo gogol xaar u noqan doona shirka nabadeynta la yeeshaan Suldaan Cabdi Cali Sonkor, ayna ka wada manaaqashoodaan sida loo heshiin kara, iyadoo rajo buuran laga bixinayo in khilaafka labada beelood ee hadda ku madlan Afmadow la dhameeyo. Waa safarkii ugu horeeyey oo ay xubno wafti tiradooda intaasi la’eg tahay, isku beelna ah islamarkaana u socda howl nabad raadin ah ay ugu baqoolaan Afmadow inka badan 10 sano, waxaana beelahan ay yihiin kuwa u dhexeeya khilaaf in muddo ah raagay.. Maxamed Xaashi Tawakal,

Wafdi Ballaaran oo uu hogaaminayo Suldaanka Beesha **** ee Goboladda jubboyinka Oo Maanta U Ambaxay Magaaladda Afmadow ee isla Gobolakani Jubbada Hoose Mar 27,2008 by Kismaayo-GEDO-NN Wafdigani oo isugu jiray Salaadiin, Siyaasiyiin, iyo wax garadkalaba ayaa waxaa hogaaminayay Suldaanka Beesha **** ee Goboladda Jubboyinka Suldaan Maxamed Bashiir Madoobe Yarow iyo Safiirkii hore ee dowladdii marxuum M Siyaad Bare u fadhin jiray dalka Mareykanka iyo Sacuudiga Mud: Maxamuud Cali Magan. Waxaana sidoo kale wehliyay wax Garad kala duwan oo ka kala socday Golayaasha Dhaqanka iyo Siyaasada ee Beesha ****. Sida uu Gedonet Maanta u xaqiijiyay Afhayeenka Beesha **** ee Goboladda Jubbooyinka Mud: Saxan Maxamed Cali (Xasan–dheere).Wafdigani ayaa Socdaalkiisa Kadanbeeyay casumaad kaga timid Suldaan Cabdi Cali Sokor oo kamid ah Salaadiinta waa Weyn ee Goboladda Jubbooyink. Wuxuuna Sidoo kale Xasan dheere Sheegay in uu Wafdigani Saakay Baxay Waday Hadiyado loo waday Suldaanka isaga casuumay wafdigani Suldaan Cabdi Cali Sokor, taasoo isugu jirto Gaadiid iyo wax yaabaha kale ee hadiyad ahaanta loogu geeyo Salaadiinta iyo Ugaasyada.Wuxuuna Afhayeenku Shaaca ka qaaday in uu Wafdigani gogol xaar u yahay Shirka dib u heshii siinta Beelaha wada dago Goboladani Jubbooyinka. Dhinaca kala waxaa maalmahan danbe ka soconayay magaaladani Kismaanyo kulamo gooni gooni ah oo ay yeelanayeen Masuuliyinta magaalladani Kismaanyo kuwaa oo looga arrinsanayay sidii ay Kismaayo oga qeyb qaadan laheyd Gurmadka iyo Biyo dhaaminta Goboladda Gedo iyo Gal-guduud, kuwaa oo hataan lagu soo Warabayo in uu Xaalka haatan marayo Meeshii ugu Qatarta badnaa, iyadoona lagu soo waramayo in ay Biya la’aan awgeed u geeri yoodeen tira dad ah, isla markaana ay u Lideen kumannaan Xoolaha Nool oo la dhaqda ah. Mana jiran wax hay ada ah oo haatan ka howl galayo Goboladani marka loo Eego Baaxada ay Baahida mareyso. Si kastaba ha ahaatee wadaad moodaa in laga daahay Gurmadka Goboladani oo iminka marayo meeshii ugu Xumeyd, Xili ay dad dowr ah Biya la’aan iyo Shuban is biirsaday ugu Dhinteen dhulka Diirharaha loo yaqaan oo ah dhulka baaxad ahaan ugu Weyn G/Gedo. Wali Sh Cabdi Gurxan Gedo News Network Kismaanyo J/hoose Soomaaliya

Originally posted by Che -Guevara: quote:Originally posted by HornAfrique: [QB] Che, waa yaabe maxaa barigaas Xamar kugu reebey? War ninyahow reer Gedo forget to send the memo about the entire family being ethnically cleansed from Xamer.They skipped town without giving us heads up.We figure In Barre will be toppled,and a new goverment will be sworn in, and life goes on Che, walle adigaa qosol dhigay. Perhaps if your properties were under gunfire as early as 8 months before the official overthrow and by your own neigbors no less under the cover of darkness, you would have seen fit to pack and calmly leave yourself. Neighbors who would come out to greet you and shake your hand in the morning, with a pasted smile, saying "aad iyo aad ayaan uga xun nahay inay xafadayadu ka dhacayso arintaan". Interesting thing is, we have met some of these neighbors here in the States and the sorrow and shame in their faces could not be anymore genuine. Closure is beautiful. Duca-qabe, armaad adigu dadka igu sii dirayn?

Che, waa yaabe maxaa barigaas Xamar kugu reebey? Burco-historian, adeer isku maaweeli Cigaal baa Soomaalinimo koonfur geeyey iyo mala awaadkaas.

Burco-historian, learn from the people who were in Mogadishu at that time. Originally posted by Che -Guevara: Horn-It was Aiydid who started the war after the failures in Gedo and Galkayo.

Che, if you were in Mogadishu then do you know who fired the first shots, the north or the south? I am told it was Aydiid who, unsatisfied in not being able to control Somalia, wanted to solely control Mogadishu. Geeljire, I meant the four months.

Originally posted by Che -Guevara: ^Actually USC in-fighting before 94, I was still in Mogadisho it started. Che, when USC infighting intensified (the three months war) I was in North America. When Afgooye took place, I was in Somalia. The three months war begun after Aydiid (alle hau naxariisto) fled back to Mogadishu after the Gedo defeat. Prior to that, the USC was pretty much united in their campaigns in Afgooye and Gedo. I remember such men as Col Jeele of Hiiraan and the likes leading the USC militia. Amazing how thin the unity was. Couple months later and it would be Col Cabdicasiis Cali Barre who would free Beled-Weyne from Aydiid's control for the Hiiraan-folk. At Afgooye, however, they were square in the midst of USC and so were North Mogadishu-folk led by Neero and the likes.