Inshallah we will!

Where did you get all these facts. I guess you're prepared for any debate concerning Iraq aren't you Mojam.

Somaliland Patriot, aboow, he was the only Western journalist to remain in Baghdad after the first gulf War started thats made CNN rich. Here is short bio of Peter Arnett from http://www.hd.net/2002-prarchive/2002-01-10-01.html Peter Arnett’s career as a war correspondent spans more than 40 years. He won the Pulitzer Prize for his intrepid coverage in Vietnam and helped change the face of TV news with his live reporting from Baghdad during the Gulf War as the only western journalist to remain during the conflict where he conducted the only wartime interview with Saddam Hussein . Arnett has reported extensively from Afghanistan, covering the Soviet Invasion in 1979 and the resistance to it during the 1980’s During the 1990’s, he reported extensively on Afghanistan’s growing role in international terrorism including a groundbreaking interview with Osama Bin Laden in 1997. Anyway I agree with you, may Allah have mercy on our souls. Like a Canadian newspaper said "'US view of war is like US coffee: filtered!"

Those are the Tutsis, Mojam. Che, I guess this is the first time I am hearing about this. Do you have a website I can go to get more info?

You and Reality file for divorce. Good one.

I ment to say he was the only Western journalist to stay behind in Iraq in the first Gulf War

The famous Peter Arnett who became famous for being the only Western journalist to have stayed behind in Baghdad was today sacked. “IT WAS wrong for Mr. Arnett to grant an interview to state controlled Iraqi TV — especially at a time of war — and it was wrong for him to discuss his personal observations and opinions in that interview,” NBC News President Neal Shapiro said in a statement. “Therefore, Peter Arnett will no longer be reporting for NBC News and MSNBC.” National Geographic, for whom Arnett first traveled to Baghdad, said it too had “terminated the service of Peter Arnett.” “The Society did not authorize or have any prior knowledge of Arnett’s television interview with Iraqi television,” it said in a statement, “and had we been consulted, would not have allowed it. His decision to grant an interview and express his personal views on state controlled Iraqi television, especially during a time of war, was a serious error in judgment and wrong.” Arnett, who won a Pulitzer Prize reporting in Vietnam for The Associated Press, appeared on NBC’s “Today” show Monday to apologize for his statements. (MSNBC.com is an NBC News-Microsoft joint venture.) INTERVIEW CONTENT In the Iraqi TV interview, Arnett said his Iraqi friends had told him that there was a growing sense of nationalism and resistance to what the United States and Britain were doing. He said the United States was reappraising the battlefield and delaying the war, maybe for a week, “and rewriting the war plan. The first war plan has failed because of Iraqi resistance. Now they are trying to write another war plan.” “Clearly, the American war plans misjudged the determination of the Iraqi forces,” Arnett said during the interview, which was broadcast by Iraq’s satellite television station and monitored by The AP in Egypt. Arnett said it was clear that there was growing opposition to the war within the United States and a growing challenge to President Bush. “Our reports about civilian casualties here, about the resistance of the Iraqi forces, are going back to the United States,” he said. “It helps those who oppose the war when you challenge the policy to develop their arguments.” The interview was broadcast in English and translated by a green military uniform-wearing Iraqi anchor. NBC said Arnett gave the interview when asked shortly after he attended an Iraqi government briefing. The interview quickly made Arnett a target of the war’s supporters. Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla., said on Fox News Channel that she found the interview “nauseating” and accused Arnett of “kowtowing to what clearly is the enemy in this way.” NBC initially backed Arnett’s interview. “His impromptu interview with Iraqi TV was done as a professional courtesy and was similar to other interviews he has done with media outlets from around the world,” NBC News spokeswoman Allison Gollust said. “His remarks were analytical in nature and were not intended to be anything more. His outstanding reporting on the war speaks for itself.” BACKGROUND SINCE 1991 Arnett garnered much of his prominence from covering the 1991 Gulf War for CNN. But even then the first Bush administration was unhappy with his reporting, suggesting that he had become a conveyor of propaganda. At one point, he was denounced for his reporting about an allied bombing of a baby milk factory in Baghdad that the military said was a biological weapons plant. The U.S. military responded vigorously to the suggestion it had targeted a civilian facility, but Arnett stood by his reporting that the plant’s sole purpose was to make baby formula. Arnett was also the on-air reporter of a 1998 CNN report that accused U.S. forces of using sarin gas on a Laotian village in 1970 to kill U.S. defectors. Two CNN employees were sacked, and Arnett was reprimanded over the report, which the station later retracted. Arnett later left the network. He went to Iraq this year not as an NBC News reporter but as an employee of “National Geographic Explorer.” When other NBC reporters left Baghdad for safety reasons, the network began airing his reports.

Yusuf what you have said brother, is very true and intelligent, but what does our religion call for an oppressed people? I realize that the Ogaden War was hardly a Jihaad, but doesn't Jihaad mean the liberation of an oppressed people? Does it not mean a struggle? A struggle to liberate? The Muslim Somalis (as well as other Muslims, such as the Oromos, Afars,ect) of the Ogaden are oppressed in every way possible and are denied basic human rights under the Christian/habesh government(s), this does not occur once. What would you do and the people you're from if your animals were killed in front of your eyes in an environment that badly calls for livestock to slaughter and eat for you to survive? What would you do and the people you're from if the very wells that are your only source of water are destroyed? What would you do and the people you're from if the only shelter you have is destroyed? You would want to fight back,and the people you're from to fight with you, right? So Yusuf brother, this goes far more than a mere line drawn in the desert by some gaal. Oh brother, this is much more than nationalism and a useless boundary. This is a struggle for a liberation according to our religion.

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I wonder what she does after she hears that.

Isn't it true what goes around comes around.

Whoa.

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Bravery has nothing to do with it Northener, it would be brave if he took a AK and went to Iraq to fight off the U.S.; but when he already has a non-existent regime that is more then fragile, than I think that is stupidity. Why destroy yourself for a war you can't stop or can't join? Not that my wishes and feelings are any different then Abdiqasim's.

Haystack, bro the Somali people are descended from two chains that intermingled, the Cushitic (also called hamatic) and Semitic chains. Arabs and Persiand came and married into the Cushites in the present Somali peninsula. That was the start of the Somali people. If you want a detailed Somali origins history check this link out: http://www.civicwebs.com/cwvlib/africa/somalia/1995/reunification/appendix_4.htm You'll find: and other things.

I don't think Saddam will leave that easily either.

Caveman I am aware that our proverbs are just as degrading as others, but when I asked oberver that question it was because I wanted to know if the book had proverbs from Somalis. Thanx. Naago waa u samir ama ka simir. looooooool, but true, sorry ladies.

No, Bari_Nomad, do not mistake me brotha. I am not downplaying the historical significence of other Somali cities nor am suggesting that since the Persians started the Muqdisho that it should be the capital of a future Somali Democratic Republic. But what I am saying is that of all the cities on the Somali coast, Muqdisho was the greatest and I have prove to back me up, and that is why it was chosen as the capital. Here is an excerpt from the famous Ibn Battuta's travels: Ibn Battuta sails along the east coast of Africa pp. 110-112 I took ship at Aden, and after four days at sea reached Zayla [Zeila, on the African coast], the town of the Berberah, who are a mixed people. Their land is a desert extending for two months' journey from Zayla to Maqdashaw [Mogadishu]. Zayla is a large city with a great bazaar, but it is the dirtiest, most abominable, and most stinking town in the world. The reason for the stench is the quantity of its fish and the blood of the camels that they slaughter in the streets. When we got there, we chose to spend the night at sea, in spite of its extreme roughness, rather than in the town, because of its filth. The town of Mogadishu in Somalia On leaving Zayla we sailed for fifteen days and came to Maqdasha [Mogadishu], which is an enormous town. Its inhabitants are merchants and also of mixed stock and have many camels, of which they slaughter hundreds every day [for food]. When a vessel reaches the port, it is met by sumbuqs, which are small boats, in each of which are a number of young men, each carrying a covered dish containing food. He presents this to one of the merchants on the ship saying "This is my guest," and all the others do the same. Each merchant on disembarking goes only to the house of the young man who is his host, except those who have made frequent journeys to the town and know its people well; these live where they please. The host then sells his goods for him and buys for him, and if anyone buys anything from him at too low a price, or sells to him in the absence of his host, the sale is regarded by them as invalid. This practice is of great advantage to them. We stayed there [in Mogadishu] three days, food being brought to us three times a day, and on the fourth, a Friday, the qadi and one of the wazirs brought me a set of garments. We then went to the mosque and prayed behind the [sultan's] screen. When the Shaykh came out I greeted him and he bade me welcome. He put on his sandals, ordering the qadi and myself to do the same, and set out for his palace on foot. All the other people walked barefooted. Over his head were carried four canopies of coloured silk, each surmounted by a golden bird. After the palace ceremonies were over, all those present saluted and retired. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Maybe we should have 3 different capitals, don't you think? Each city an administrative, legislative, or judicial capital? Is that a possibility.

While I should say I have never heard of this before and cannot claim it false or true, I would just say there are millions of Africans who have Somali feature. To be speaking accurately there is not such a thing called Somali features, but we are part of the Cushitic chain who all share similar features. The Habasha (although they don't speak cushitic languages) Oromos, Afars, beni Amer, the beja, Rendille, and other Cushites, all can be mistaken for Somalis, as can the Hausa of Nigeria, the Tutsi of Rwanda/ Uganda/Burundi and other Nilo-Hamites. Even us Somalis don't look one way. Some of us look mixed, some look Arab/Persian/Hindi, some look Asian, some look European, while Some have plain average Africoid/Negroid features. Whoah, I have hijacked this thread didn't I? Well I know nothing of these communities to answer your question Che. Are you a socialist by any chance?

Personally I believe Al jazeera is doing a good job, it is an independent news organization and is upholding to the golden rule of journalism, which is always have accurate and balanced news. Show both sides of the war. I don't know if it's true, but Al Jazeera's stocks have been thrown out of Wall Street, did you guys hear anything about that?

What about ones from Somalia?

Salaamz Wlc again mom, great,.

This amn has a lot of good things to say, but he will always be put down because of is affiliation with the KKK.

Thanx LST, I will use some of the information for debates later.