You are welcome most certainly It was a pleasure giving you the definition, now get back to point. or not

A Somali female running for presidency amongst Somali men? She has my respect!

Action means the state of doing something. When you talk, isn't that action. The state of doing something? When you talk you're doing something, am I not correct? Now that we have that solved, lets get back to my earlier point. If someone uses their freedom of speech, does that constitute treason? if your answer is yes, Lander, then to me you are no better than the Siad Barre you loathe so much! code: Besides you are trying to downplay all the important things said in my previous post

SOOMAALIYA HANOOLAATO! yaah? SOOMAALIYA HANOOLATO! yaah? SOOMAAAAAAAAAALIYA HANOOOOOOOOOOLAAAAAAAAAATO! haa!!!!!!!!!! Allahu Akbar it is the day we kicked the infidels out!

TREASON: Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies* If I'm not mistaken, Riyaale (who commited treason to the Somali people by being head of the Berbera office of Siad barre's secret police) aided Siyaad Barre (who commited treason to the whole Somali nation by taking their civil liberties away and destroying our country) against his enemy the SNM (the founders of the treasonist entity called "Somaliland"). What exactly does treason constitute? Correct me if i'm wrong but what do those three have in common? They all committed some sort of treason. In this case an enemy would be anybody taking action towards the dismantling or destruction of Somaliland Does that supposed action mean anyone who calls for unification with the Somali Republic? If that is what you mean Lander where does freedom of speech and the various other civil liberties stand in so-called "Somaliland"? Wasn't "Somaliland" supposed to be a model of democracy for the other African countries? Wasn't it supposed to diverge from Siad Barre's action? Infact it seems as though that instead of diverging from Barre's police state, "Somaliland" is heading straight for it. I wonder what Reyalee would do if he is removed from his presidancy? Dont you think he would denounce the secession the very next day on BBC True, you know Somali politicians.

Simple :rolleyes: Yaa tahay? Soomaali baan ahay. Don't make things more complicated than it is nomads.

what if the man behind it is not a Nomad but a Yido with thick spectacles wearing a skull cap with dangling sideburns to boot? Auudu Bilaahi Minashaytani rajiim indeed!!

If you have not made one enemy in your life, you have not done anything in your life. -Anonymous Really Lynx I laughed at your "horny" phrase when I first read it On a lighter note, doesn't OGADEN have a sizesable Somaliland population? I am beginning to think Lynx's comment wasn't an outright qabiil attack. LST, even though I have the utmost respect for, I would like to say that I disagreed with both your points wholeheartedly. Moderators are not always neutral, and I would not want them to be, but to say Lynx's phrase was not a qabiil attack surpasses me, even though you are pro-"Somaliland" LST. "Somalilander" is a so-called nationality not an ethnicity, an unrecognized nationality by both the whole world and the majority of the Somali people, so your "lighter note" did not lessen the qabyaaladnimo nature of Lynx's post. Thank you....People stop being cry babies. Geedid, lord knows how the pro-secessionst camp in this forum would be on my back if I didn't look over what I write and said something unintentionally , which is way different from the intention of Lynx. Example: "Somalilanders" were kille rs ...instead of.."Somalilanders" were kille d Besides Reer Somali Galbeed did not choose to be seperated from their Somali brethren, and to poke fun at their predicament adds to their disparity and humiliation.

^^^^Let's repeat your post Bari Nomad so Angel Dust understands about how "tight" "Somaliland"'s security is. code: Former minister deported from Somaliland NAIROBI, 24 Jun 2003 (IRIN) - A former interior minister and police chief of Somalia, who was detained by the authorities of the self-declared republic of Somaliland, was "deported" to Djibouti on Monday afternoon. Somaliland Information Minister Abdullahi Muhammad Du'ale told IRIN on Tuesday the ex-minister, Gen Jama Muhammad Ghalib, had not been charged because he was in transit. "It was decided that since he was claiming to be in transit not to prosecute him, but to deport him," Du'ale said. Ghalib, who hails from Somaliland, is a delegate to the Somali peace talks currently under way in Kenya, and a vocal supporter of Somali unity within a federal system of government. He opposes Somaliland's unilateral declaration of independence from the rest of Somalia. He was detained on Saturday at Hargeysa airport, where his aircraft landed in transit to Mogadishu. Du'ale said a group of eight young men protesting against Ghalib's arrest attacked Hargeysa airport on Monday. One of them died of wounds sustained during the attack, and the rest were arrested. Also wounded in the attack were two airport security officers. Du'ale added that "airport operations were back to normal within one hour". On Monday, the minister told IRIN that any Somalilander who called for reunification with Somalia "calls into question the existence of the country and will therefore face the law". code: Freedom of speech and the so-called justices for all, huh?

Lynx was your post supposed to sound humurous, because if it was, than I must have a way different sense of humuor than you. I hope no offense on your part is taken brother, but wasn't your name on the list of people who were banned?

I did not understand one bit about that whole post?? COULD YOU EXPLAIN A BIT :confused:

The Habesh governments of Ethiopia have been trying to extract oil from the Ogaden ever since it was discovered there in 50's, but they have been largely unsuccessfull due to Allah (subxanawatacala), even though others might call it bad luck How can you expect to bear fruits from a seed you didn't plant and a tree you didn't water? How can Ethiopia drain the oil from the Ogaden while the very people who have a rightful claim to are being oppressed in the worst way possible? Just like Observer said Melez and his TPLF government is soon to be defunct if they keep going the same route they're in as of the present. This deal with Malaysia seems to me like a fast way to put money into a cash-strapped nation and government; however that oil and ultimately money does not belong to Meles nor the TPLF neither the state of Ethiopia. It belongs to its rightfull owners...I'll leave it up to you guys to guess just who those people are

Shujui, Amitai Etzioni sounds like a jewish name to me. Anyway we are Muslims and we should be ruled according to our faith. I wish Muslims everywhere would stand up and press for Shariah law. The hate towards Islam by these people are so undisguised, it's just sad that we as Muslims don't see it, or if we see it we just want to ignore it. Gaaladaan can do whatever they want, everything is prophesised and will happen as Allah, subxanawatacaala, said in the Qur'aan.

NAIROBI, 19 Jun 2003 (IRIN) - Ambassador Bethwel Kiplagat, the chairman of the Inter-Governmental Authority on Development (IGAD) technical committee and Kenya’s special envoy to the Somali peace talks, told a press conference on Wednesday that a new Somali government should be formed by early July. Kiplagat had earlier set a target of 18 June. The IGAD-sponsored talks on Somalia began in October 2002 in the western Kenyan town of Eldoret, but were moved to the capital, Nairobi, in February this year. Kiplagat said that Somali leaders had made substantial progress on several key issues of contention, and that outstanding matters should be resolved by 30 June. "We will not be able as of midnight tonight to have a parliament, to have a government, as we had agreed," he said at the press conference. He stressed, however, that this did not mean that the talks were over. "We are simply stopping the clock tonight so that we can carry on with very intensive consultations to resolve this problem, and proceed with the election of the president and the formation of the government," he said. Kiplagat asked the participants not to give up. "My appeal will be to all the Somalis who are here, all the leaders who are here, to work, to compromise so that we can resolve the remaining small problems." He also stressed that the failure to meet the 18 June deadline did not undo the substantial progress made so far. Some participants in the talks, however, wondered whether an agreement reached in Nairobi would be enough to persuade militias at home to disarm. Mogadishu-based faction leader Muhammad Qanyare Afrah, of the so-called G8 alliance of factions, said that the assistance of the international community was essential. He said that if a peacemaking force was not in place before a new government was installed, everything achieved in Nairobi would crumble in Somalia. "We need a robust peacemaking force to disarm the various militias, until a Somali force is constituted," he told IRIN. Despite a ceasefire agreement signed by the Somali groups last October and which was to apply for the duration of the conference, violations have remained flagrant and are perpetrated largely with impunity. Participants also made a plea for increased international involvement to help Somalia stand on its own and develop economically. "I appeal to the international community not to get tired of us," Faduma Abdullahi Muhammad said. "I hope that the international community will help to establish our government," she added.

Libya is my choice.

One of my favorite books, even though I read and not trust what Micheal Moore writes.

It's good to be Back. Xassan Nasra Allah it's sad to see you go brother.

I swear Somali people just go into place and claim it even though they don't want to understand what is going on! Name those relatives you're talking about!

Mombasa - The inhabitants of Somalia will once again be able to correspond by mail with the rest of the world as the war-wracked country has rejoined the Pan African Postal Union, officials said on Thursday at a gathering of the body. The Postal Union welcomed a delegation Somalia's Transitional National Government to its 22nd Administration Council meeting, which opened on Wednesday in the Kenyan port city of Mombasa. "We congratulate them in their reconstruction efforts and active return to our common union," Papu secretary-general Ben Jilani Haddada said. "The decision to return Somalia to the fold has been borne by the fact that after so many years of ordeals and havoc in all economic sectors, Somalia is now enjoying a return to peace," he said. Conference officials said delegates would discuss efforts to catch up with postal trends outside the continent, including ways of combating terrorism involving the postal system, such as the sending of bombs by mail. Somalia was forced out of the postal union, a specialised agency of the African Union, in 1991 after the outbreak of civil war. The Papu, set up in 1977, has its headquarters in the Tanzanian city of Arusha.

Who is related in this great forum? Just curious. If people don't feel comfortable let me start... . . . . . Ms Word abaayo iskawaran :confused:

Lynx and Cilmi obviously you don't see what was wrong with her post, because it was edited by the Admin, so please think before you speak, and in this case before you write.

You're going to have to explain yourself better Entrepreneur, because I'm lost as to what you started this whole thread for :confused:

Samurai Walaale I favor the camp that wants to see a federal Somalia at the end of this peace process, out of a compromise, if not for anything else. The only reason Puntland hasn't tried to secede yet is because it envisions itself as a future autonomous region, Waqooyi Galbeed's unity with Somalia also depends on whether a federal gov. is established. If we don't sort everything out right while there is international pressure and help, then who will complete the framework of this peace process? Everything needs to discussed and agreed upon now! The wait and see tactic will get us nowhere! A federal democratic Somalia at the end of this process is what we need.!

^^^^^^^loooooooooooooool Aussie you noticed it too :confused: SamyGyrl