I do not disagree with you Lander and AJ timacadeh, but would Lander not be jumping up and down with joy, if either of those "weakling" organizations gave recognition to the "Somaliland"?

Allahu Akbar!! Allahu Akbar!!! Allahu Akbar!!!! I was just watching CNN Headline News, when I saw that the size of government had been agreed to. I came on the net to find more info, and i came straight to this post. Alla mahadle Allahu Akbar Alhamdulilah Soomaaliyay toosoo-ay! Happiness does not describe my present feeling.

AJ timacadeh what is this ABC on world politics? When I said international community, I ment international world bodies, ex: EU,UN,AU,AL,etc.

Lander This treaty is the very treaty that brought together British Somaliland and Italian Somaliland, and after it was signed by the delegates of the two respective colonies it came into affect 3 days later when Italian Somaliland became independent and joined with British Somaliland to be united Somalia. Both colonies sacrificed their soverignty for the sake of the unity of the Somali people, I'm just glad they're not alive to witness such violence, enmity, and disloyalty toward Somalinimo. The source of the treaty comes from a new book called Somalia: Chronology of Historical Documents 1827-2002 you keep telling yourself that, if it helps you sleep at night. No, it actually makes me all the more saddened by the fact that maskiin people are being used for selfish political tactics.

The international community is not the the United States of America, AJ Timacade. Besides the Arta conference ended in 2000, with Abdiqasim even gettting recognition from the former Clinton adminstration, but Bush rescinded that recognition after the terrorist attacks.

^^^^^^That is in the mind of a few, confused persons, and the innocent people they so cleverly lead.

Whereas the State of Somaliland achieved independence and ceased to be under British protection or within the jurisdiction and sovereignty of Her Britannic Majesty on the 26th day of June, 1960, being Muharram 1st 1379, and Whereas the State of Somalia achieved its independence and ceased to have the status of a Trust Territory of the United Nations Organisation administered by the Republic of Italy on the 1st day of July, 1960, being Muharram 6th 1379, and Whereas it is the will of the peoples of Somaliland and Somalia that their States shall unite and shall forever be united in the Somali Republic. Now we the signatories hereof being the duly authorized representatives of the peoples of Somaliland and Somalia and having vested in us the power to make and enter into this Law of Union on behalf of our respective States and peoples do hereby solemnly and in the name of God the Compassionate and Merciful agree as follows: 1. (a) The State of Somaliland and the State of Somalia do hereby unite and shall forever remain united in a new, independent, democratic, unitary republic the name whereof shall be the Somali Republic. (b) The Capital of the Somali Republic shall be Mogadishu. 2. Subject to the express provisions of this Act of Union the Union hereby constituted shall be upon the following conditions: (1) That the component administrative units of the government of the Somali Republic until more suitable administrative arrangements are made, shall be firstly the region comprising the territories contained in the boundaries of the presently existing State of Somaliland ~hereinafter referred to as the Northern Region) and secondly those presently existing territories which comprise the six Regions of Mijertein, Mudugh, Hiran, Benadir, Upper Juba and Lower Juba all in Somalia (herein-after collectively referred to as the second-named Regions). (2) That the existing laws presently in force in the Northern Region and in the` second-named Regions respectively shall remain in full force and effect within the respective territories where the same presently apply and shall not have force or effect beyond those respective territories where the same presently apply. (3) That all persons now serving the Somaliland Government in the Northern Region and the Government of Somalia in the second-named Regions respectively shall continue to serve the Government of the Somali Republic upon terms not less favourable than those at present applicable to them. (4) That the Courts as presently constituted in the aforesaid Northern Region and the aforesaid second-named Regions shall continue to exercise within their respective territories the jurisdiction which is conferred upon them by presently existing law and shall be Courts of the Somali nation; (5) That all rights and obligations vested or accruing, whether public or private (including any status of legal personality acquired under law by corporate or non-corporate bodies) shall continue to subsist in accordance with sub-clause (2) hereof, be recognised and enforced by the Courts of the Somali Republic referred to in sub-clause (4) hereof and by the Government in the Somali Republic. (6) That in the Somali Republic the national languages of the Republic shall be as to the spoken tongue Somali, and as to the written language Arabic, English and Italian, which shall have equal status. 3. (1) All persons who upon the date of this Union possess the citizenship of Somaliland and Somalia respectively shall by this Union now become citizens of the Somali Republic. (2) All persons who hereafter would, but for this Union, have become citizens of Somaliland or Somalia respectively under the law of either of the two uniting States as presently subsisting, shall hereafter become citizens of the Somali Republic. 4. The Head of State of the Somali Republic shall be the President of the Republic chosen in accordance with the provisions of the Constitution referred to in Article 7 hereof. 5. The Executive Authority of the Somali Republic shall be vested in the Council of Ministers appointed in accordance with the provisions of the Constitution referred to in Article 7 hereof and shall be exercised as therein provided. 6. The legislative power of the Somali Republic shall be vested in the National Assembly constituted in accordance with the provisions of the Constitution referred to in Article 7 hereof and shall be exercised as therein provided. 7. The Constitution of the Somali Republic shall be the Constitution of the State of Somalia with such adaptations as may be necessary to bring it into conformity with this Act of Union but notwithstanding the provisions thereof relating to amendment, no amendment of that Constitution shall derogate from the conditions of Union set forth in clause 2 hereof unless made in accordance with the procedure and provisions set forth in clause 10 hereof. 8. (1) Upon this Act being made the presently subsisting Legislative Assemblies of Somaliland and Somalia respectively shall cease as such to subsist: but the existing elected members of the said Legislative Assemblies shall constitute the first National Assembly of the Somali Republic. Immediately upon the National Assembly of the Somali Republic being constituted under these provisions, the members thereof shall each before the person presiding over the National Assembly make an oath of allegiance to the Somali Republic. (2) The existing President or Vice-President of the Legislative Assembly of Somali shall preside over the National Assembly of the Somali Republic for the purpose of taking the oaths of allegiance in accordance with sub-clause (1) hereof and for the purpose of electing the first President of the National Assembly only. ( 3) The members of the Council of Ministers after being appointed in accordance with the Constitution shall each make an oath of allegiance to the Somali Republic before the President of the National Assembly. 9. (1) Notwithstanding anything in clause 2 hereof, the citizens of the Somali Republic shall have the right freely to move for lawful purposes throughout the territory of the Republic subject to the provisions of any law relating to public order or human or animal health. (2) Notwithstanding anything in clause 2 hereof there shall be no customs, excise or other tax imposed upon the movement of goods (including animals) between any parts of the territory of the Somali Republic, providing such goods originate from the Region from which they are proceeding. (3) Until unification of customs tariffs is achieved, goods imported from foreign countries, land moving from the Northern Region to the second- named Regions and vice versa shall be subject to the customs laws at present in force: in the Northern Region and the second-named Regions. 10. (1) There shall he established a Special Commission the members of which shell be persons who were immediately prior to this Act of Union either members of the Legislative Assembly of Somalia or members of tile Legislative Assembly of Somaliland together with a Chairmen being a member of the National Assembly a pointed by the members of the Commission, (2) The members of the Special Commission (other than the Chairman) shall be appointed by the President of the Somali Republic acting on the advice of the Council of Ministers and shall consist of an equal number of former members of the Legislative Assembly of Somalia and former members of the legislative Assembly of Somaliland. (3) The Special Commission shall examine into and make recommendations (which in the event of the Commission not being unanimous shall be the recommendations of a majority of its members to which a minority report shall be attached) as to the provisions to be made from time to time by law for the purpose of establishing uniformity between the laws, institutions, public services and social services presently existing in the regions referred to in clause 2 (1) hereof. (4) The Special Commission shall for the aforesaid purposes be empowered to establish sub-commissions or committees, the members whereof may include other persons, and to engage or call for assistance from any person by way of advice or otherwise. (5) A Special Commission shall from time to time report to the Council of Ministers as to its recommendations under sub-clause (3) of this Clause and the Council of Ministers shall thereupon with all reasonable dispatch lay such report before the National Assembly together with the proposed legislation to be made to give effect thereto. (6) The National Assembly shall thereupon decide by a majority of the members thereof present and voting upon such proposed legislation whether the same shall be enacted. (7) Upon the National Assembly so deciding then the President shall assent to such legislation and upon the same coming into operation any condition set forth in clause 2 hereof shall so far as it is inconsistent with such legislation be abrogated. (8) The Special Commission may with the approval of the Council of Ministers make rules regulating its procedure and providing for the duration of the appointments of its members, the remuneration of any persons whose participation or assistance is called for under sub-clause (3) hereof, the filling of vacancies in membership and all other matters as may be required for the performance of the functions conferred upon the Special Commission by this clause: Provided that if the Special Commission fails to make rules under this sub-clause in accordance with a request made to it by the Council of Ministers the Council of Ministers may make the said rules. (9) Any rules made under sub-clause (8) may be added to, amended or revoked in the same manner. 11. (1) Any property (including any rights arising from contracts or otherwise) that is immediately before this Act of Union vested in the Government of Somaliland or in the State of Somalia shall upon this Act being made vest in the Somali Republic or In any such person or authority on behalf of the Somali Republic as She Council of Ministers may direct. (2) Any liabilities or obligation (whether arising from contract or otherwise) incurred by the Government of Somaliland or by the State of Somalia and subsisting immediately before this Act of Union shall upon this Act of Union being made be a liability or obligation of the Somali Republic or of such person or authority on behalf of the Somali Republic as the Council of Ministers may direct. (3) For the purposes of the preceding sub-clause, any property which immediately before the making of this Act of Union was vested in, or any liability or obligation which at that time had been incurred by, any person or authority on behalf of the Government of Somaliland the State of Somalia shall be deemed to be property vested in or a liability or obligation incurred by She respective Government or State. (4) Without derogation from She foregoing provisions of this Clause the rights and obligations arising from agreements entered into ~between the Government of Somaliland and the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and between the Government of Somalia anti the Government of Italy and other States and International Organisations which are set out in the Schedule (2) to this Act shall be binding upon the Somali Republic. 12. (1) For the time being the provision subsisting immediately before the making of this Act of Union for the expenditure of public monies of the Somali Republic hereby constituted within and upon the Northern Region and the second-named Regions shall as far as practicable continue to the intent that those monies which have been authorised to be expended within and upon the respective Northern Region and second- named Regions shall continue to be expended upon the public service and upon the development and welfare and in the service of the said Northern Region and the second- named Regions and the inhabitants thereof respectively. (2) For the time being the presently subsisting provision for the expenditure of public monies (including such monies as may be provided by way of assistance from foreign States) upon the development and welfare of the aforesaid Northern Region and second-named Regions and the inhabitants thereof respectively shall as far as practicable continue to the intent that those schemes of development and welfare which are now cur rent shall be completed and that those schemes of development and welfare which have been planned shall be proceeded with within the respective Northern Region and second-named Regions hereinbefore referred to and for the benefit of their respective inhabitants. (3) The Supreme Court of the Somali· Republic shall have appellate jurisdiction in relation to decisions of the Courts now constituted and which will continue to subsist in the aforesaid Northern Region.

lol..more intelligent? so it's more intelligent to be in line with your thoughts I suppose? Lander it's more intelligent to be realistic, sxb.

so the word adoon should be used at any broad nose kinky haired individual.if you don't agree with this statement then ur not a full blooded somalian. So I guess christian Europeans are superior to us solely based on their looks right? How can one group be more superior to another because of physical features? You are taking the mentality of a slave owner or colonizer my friend. No man is superior to another in Islam, all stand equal in the eyes of Allah. Repent your sin, so Allah, subxanawatacala, will forgive you Banaadir.

You messed up the previous post Og girl, you wrote Somaliyah for male and Somali for female.

I wonder if the Cali Mahdi adminstration should be a republic, since it was recognized?

More like the Fourth republic to me. 1960-1969 1969-1991 2000-2003 (TNG) 2003-yowmul aaqira

My aplogizes for not replying sooner, but I was very busy this week. Gediid But seriously for what ever strange reason I was under the impression that the "Somali Peace Conference" was to reconcile the warlords Whatever gave you that impression? The peace conference is to reconcile Somalia as a state and the Somalis as a nation. Lander Bro you do not understand how much I agree with you, what have they done for the people of Somalia and the country they claim to represent? they have done absaloutely nothing, but Exactly what does this example tell you about international recognition? it tells me that the international community is mored dedicated to Somali unity then I could have understood before.

But the peace between Puntland and Somaliland is one between two Somali states, get it? Brother there is no need for an argument, but it would be wise if you refrained from using the word "states", "regions" would be a more intelligent term to use.

The interesting part is that Ethiopia, in principle, commits itself to respect our territorial integrity. It implicitly undermines our future and its hidden hand is all over our political map, however. Nevertheless its official line is one Somalia. England, the colonizing power, signed with its EU partners a letter issued by the organization after the conclusion of Arta conference. The letter explicitly confirms its commitment to one Somalia and it pledges to support its reconstruction (if u dig google, u may find it). All in all, All these points are clear indication of the futility of the quest to attain recognition. Truth often does sting a bit.

"Puntland" is a region of Somalia, whilst "Somaliland" is claiming to be a soverign state. Isn't it supposes to be peace between "Somaliland" and Somalia?

hhm

Ayoub Sheikh I'm right here brother. My computer crashed for the second time in the last 4 months, so I didn't have time to get on SomaliaOnline.com. All in all, I'm glad to see that you've missed me brother it makes me feel appreciated. Besides you know what last tuesday was so you know what I have been celebrating.

^^^^^^^i like yours runaway virgin.

I applaud reer Waqooyi Galbeed and I pray to Allah, subxana watacala, to speed up unification of our country so they don't have to keep struggling with limited resources.

Gediid if I may point out brother, the number of participants and the number of candidates for the top post of the presently forming government, shows just how much confidence is held upon this peace process. Have you ever heard of the more the merrier? Please stop being a spoiler by trying to spoil the joy of the whole Somali nation now that a functional peaceful Somali state is near. I don't have to say it, but we all know that the entity of "Somaliland" will be no more by this time next year, when the Somali Republic starts functioning and is able to lobby once more in the international community. Has it ever occurred to you just how much the international community wants a united Somali Republic? Cabdiqaasim Salaad Hassan and his TNG government, although they controlled no less then two blocks in Xamar, were instantly given the Somali seat at the United Nations, Arab League, Organization of African Unity, Organization of Islamic Conference, and the Non-Aligned Movement., while "Somaliland", which had been peaceful and prosperous for the last decade, wasn't spared a single glance. For once let's start being realistic . But to be honest this process goes far more than the number of delegates or other such, it is about letting the whole Somali Republic enjoy the peace and prosperity that reer Waqooyi Galbeed have had for the last decade. So let's not be a xaasid, Gediid.

Thanx Bachelor, i thought so too, except it leaves out the presently occuppied Somali territories.

Alhamdulilah Somali people are staying loyal and patriotic to our mother country. Let's not be part of traitors and turncoats! Let's cut off the disease (seccessionism) from the body (Somalia), and we know what the cure is(unity).

Of course not, and if she suggested it i would leave her in a second. Aduunyadaan dadka wee qaribtaa, waa inla iska ilaaliyo.

Angel love - Somaliland is not only where I was born (Hargeysa), but also a Somali terrain unless proven otherwise which thus far has not been, hence my concern lies there and anywhere else where Somalis are the predominant populace including Puntland, Southwest, and other southern regions of Somalia. Love you bro. Somali patriotism at it's best