Is it me or does this remind one of the Abdiqasim times :confused: A lot of international visits with great photo ops, but nothing being done... Oh well, all we can do is pray.

Originally posted by Jumatatu: Qabiil = Alisaleebaan That's what I thought first

Originally posted by Jumatatu: ^^^ Did you know his mother..? Nationalist you do know Caato's wife is from the northeast right?

Poems are divided into (1) gabay , (2) geerar , and (3) jiifto Very nice article, except Somali poetry, or Maanso, is divided into 8 categories instead of 3. (1) Gabay, (2) Jiifto, (3) Geeraar, (4) Wiglo, (5) Buraanbur, (6) Beercade, (7) Afarey, and (8) Guuraw. Poetry can also be divided according to themes such as baroorodiiq (elegy), amaan (praise), digasho (gloating), jacayl (love), guhaadin (assault), and gubaabo (guidance).

lool But (1/1000) it could be Horn( that is if he becomes aware of what his tenets should be...which is hardly unlikely). Sxb explain what my tenets are and how you play into it?...does this have something to do with that Gedo thread :rolleyes: ..if it does then make sure to refrain from trying to me get me into that kind affairs from here on

Aqoon-iswaydaarsi lagaga hadlayo Nabada Gobalka Gedo oo maanta ka furmay Deg Buurdhuubo ee Gobalka Gedo Wararka ka imaanaya degmada Buurdhuubo ee gobolka Gedo ayaa sheegaya in maanta uu degmadaasi ka furmay aqoon isweydaarsi looga hadlayo baraarujinta nabada Gobalka. Aqoon-iswaydaarsigan oo ujeedadiisu tahay in kor loogu qaado nabada Gobolka, in lasoo Celiyo isdhexmarkii iyo isku socodkii dhamaanba dadwaynaha ku nool Gobolka ayaa ugu danbaybta laga soo saari doonaa qodobo ka hadlaya sidii nabad waarta loogu heli lahaa Gobolka Gedo iyadoo la dhisi doono Gudi Heer Gobol ah oo nabada ka shaqeeyn doona. Aqoon-isweydaarsigani oo sidoo kale lagu qaban doono dhamaan degmooyinka Gobalku ka koobanyahay ayaa waxaa soo qaban qaabiyay howlwadeenada Hay’ada marka Magaceeda la soo gaabiyo la yiraahdo Somali Agricultural Development Organization (SADO), wuxuuna socon doona mudo 5 maamlood ah. Aqoon-iswaydaarsigan oo mid la mid ah horey loogu soo gabagabeeyay degmada Baardheere ee Gobalka Gedo, iyadoo ay ka soo qeybgaleen dhamaan qeybaha kala duwan ee Bulshada ku nool degmada Buurdhuubo sida odayaasha, culuma udiinka, aqoonyahanada Haweenka, iyo dhalanyarada ee degmadaasi. Maxamuud Cumar Daahir oo ah xiriiriyaha Barnaamijka dhisida nabada ee gobolka Gedo oo ka hadlay furitaanka aqoon isweydaarsigaani ayaa sheegay ujeedada ay u qabteen inay laxiriirto horumarinta nabada gobolka Gedo iyo ilaalinta xaquuqda aadanaha, islamarkaana ay ku baahin doonaan degmooyinka kale ee gobolka Gedo si loo helo nabad iyo xasilooni buuxda. Sidoo kale waxaa ka hadlay qaar ka mid ah odayaasha iyo waxgaradka degmada Buurdhuubo waxaayna tibaaxeen baahida loo qabo nabada iyo sida ugu haboon ee nabad loogu soo dabaali lahaa degmooyinka gobolka Gedo. Keynaan Gedonet-Mogadisho

Nationalist I'll try to answer your questions now. No offense but every Somali region has potential if you add it with 450 km of paved roads. True, but specially in Gedo because the U.N estimates there is more land and cross-border trade in that region then any of the other Somali regions. Gedo borders one of the most if not the most backward and underdeveloped regions of both Kenya and Ethiopia All the regions in Somalia, Ethiopia, and Kenya are virtually backward and underdeveloped, but in the African and third world context trade and commerce are flourishing in those places. Trade routes have always been and will most likely be for Kenya to Kismayo. Muqdisho's trade, because of the violence in its port, depends heavily on land trade with Ethiopia and Kenya and most of that trade takes place and conerns Gedo. The U.N estimates that 60% of Kismayo's and the Jubba's trade and commerce depend on Gedo and its trading network. Infact Ken Menkhaus wrote that the city of Kismayo's lifeline is the trade coming from Bardhere and the rest of Gedo. And for Ethiopia it's muscle trading arm is the railroad from Addis Ababa via Dire Dawa to Djibouti. Thereby mostly northern regions would benefit, wich is currently happenning. Djibouti, Bosaso and Berbera ports are competing for Ethiopia's market. Most of Ethiopia's trade toward the outside world goes through Djibouti and, in the past, through the cities of Massawa and Assab, Eritrea. However, a good percentage of Ethiopia's trade in the horn and toward Somalia is overwhelming concentrated in the south, principally in Gedo, Kismayo, and Muqdisho. Ethiopia's trade links in the northern regions is limited to port usage. Infact part of Gedo's fortunes have to do with the fact that there is more remittance money sent back to Gedo then any other region. The U.N wrote a report saying that money sent back was what was keeping Gedo virtually alive during it's dark ages (mid-90's). quote: quote:

Horn-have you ever been to the baadiya of garbaharay its the most exquisite places and exotic wildlife sceneries I have ever come across(forget TSAVO national park) Once you should get down there-you should try the tiny sweet-sour fruits called "XAMUUR" (as reer gedood say) Baadiya of Garbaharay? Unfortunately not sis, I'm a city kid, that's why I want to experience the whole nine yards when I go back. I do remember Gedo though, and it still amazes my grandmother that "Mudug ee cimrigeeda ku soo dhamaystirtay, ayadoo Gedo tolkeeda leeyahiin" (I quote :cool: ). That's how wonderful and surprising the green of Gedo was to alot of people. Tuulo Barwaaqo (not a tuulo anymore, I heard they're callin the place Beled Barwaaqo now ) is itself built on a naturally occuring garden, thats one of the reasons I'm going to be there most of the time and also because of who the over-whelming majority of it's inhabitants are It is sad what happened to post-1991 Gedo though. :rolleyes: All the intellectuals, leaders, and learned leaving the place in control of jaahil warlords pitting their sub-subclans against the other. Thats why there is a call right now to call back the wax-garads and aqoonyahans and take advantage of this fruitful opportunity to build the place. The best you and I can do is support them passionately and whole-heartedly.

Originally posted by Jumatatu: quote:Originally posted by HornAfrique: I've never downplayed the peace and development Puntland has achieved, and have even look at it as a model for Gedo. Reer Gedo will slaughter you alive in a broad daylight for this statement...but then again they probably know the substitute of blodd in your body is water hence you have no honour.... :mad: Slaughter me for what? Telling the truth? Puntland and reer Gedo might be having a current political cold war sxb, but no reer Gedo will ever deny the peace and prosperity the northeast is experiencing. If you must know the reer Gedo aqoonyahans and waxgarads are calling to emulate Puntland. Bespeaking of my honour? Waraa waa iiso digatay miyaa? On the real though if I were to praise Caydiid and Caato, my "honor" would be intact huh? Get a grip sxb, politics changes, but blood doesn't. :cool: as she said it in somali-"waa gogool" evergreen land. The word Fuunicho(like furniture)got me cracking up kool place. waxaa joogaan mas duuled , too many ugaar, and my fav. ELO ELO (deer) & BICIID (gazelle/Impala) Ahh Raula nice to hear of you sis, how have you been? Now where is this "Fuunicho" near by the way? If things go as hoped, some family members and I are going to Somalia this summer. We plan to visit Gedo (visits to Bardhere, Garbaharay, Beled Xawo, and Tuulo Barwaaqo respectively) before going on to Cabudwaq and Balanbale. Find out for me will ya :cool: , that place sounds interesting.

Listen, stop with the inferiority complex. I hate it when people say the same thing about Pland and ignore the reality on the ground. I neither showed inferiority nor superiority, although I don't see how this comes into place? I've never downplayed the peace and development Puntland has achieved, and have even look at it as a model for Gedo. So how does what I've always said relate to the negative opinion you have shown?

all you can do is shut up :confused: Sorry for trampling your unrealistic 'glimmer of hope'. Please don't make me laugh. What's so unrealistic about being hopeful for peace and development :confused: What's so unrealistic for people to stop fighting themselves and take advantage of one of the most blessed and richly endowed lands in Somalia? What's so unrealistic about your Somali brothers and sisters looking for their interest, when the mechanisms to do so are already in place? What's so unrealistic about the intellectuals taking advantage of the lapse of violence and insecurity to encourage and work for peace and development? Sxb it's not unealistic, far from being unrealistic. People are realizing they cannot live like they did before, and I'm happy and overjoyed they are waking up now instead somewhere down the future. You can be happy and a little bit more positive, then biased and cuqdad-filled attitude you have thus showed.

Nationalist that's very objective analysis coming from you...or is it? :rolleyes: Although I can refute almost all if not all of the statements you made, I really don't see the point sxb. It's obviously politics that's getting to your head :rolleyes:

A glimer of hope.

More of this kind of cultural exchanges are needed. I applaud it. Glad to see Yamyam has recovered from his ordeal between Cabudwaq and Dhusamareb. :cool:

Qarboobe LOL Magac dheeridinaa, sxb. Sxb kuwa kula dagnaa have no idea about the history of the family that gives them their names You can even teach them and they wouldn't know jack crack about it

Cabudwhere Lol sxb I don't expect you to know. The politics of Cabudwaq and those of "Somaliland" have no relations with whatsoever. I, however, expect Smith to know

budunbuto iyo biciidlasaar near eymuqleeye and dabarogato I don't even see the point of us arguing about what happened in Balanbale, it's not like any of us can change what happened.

Sxb hunqaacadaada orad leef Nothing you say or propaganda you are trying to fill people with will change what happen. It was because of what Abdulahi Yusuf did to Balanbale that is the cause of the hostilities between the people of Cabudwaq and the people of Puntland even to this day.

Hasan Qarboobe, isn't he also a famous poet? About the horses, no offense but every average Somali family says they own the finest horses or the most horses. The latter is a claim from my own family. Lol Yes, my great-grandfather was very well respected for his poetic finnese as much as he's military abilities, and he truly did own some of the finest horses in Mudug. :cool: might show that Kenadid's forces was large and well organised according to Somali standards of that era. According to Somali standards it was extremely well organized, no one can deny that.

even though i as a somalilander is more welcomed in that city than you these days.. hehehehe life is cruel Somewhat true Qudhac , but should that lead me to take on a false clan bravado such as "whoa Cabudwaq is much more developed then Muqdisho :eek: ". No sxb, despite my status there (and I do have family still there), Muqdisho is what it is, Somalia's most developed and biggest city. No need to lie, just the truth.

rest assured it is zillion light years ahead of your backyard. Has he seen Muqdisho as of the current? Even with the civil war and Muqdisho being the hardest hit, the city is thriving as always. There is a reason for it having been the leading African city for centuries and for it having been picked as the capital. Muqdisho sxb is thriving as always.

when you get your behind whipped I don't even see the need to argue with you sxb, you are a joke. The fact that the Ethiopians came in to a peaceful border town, and with Abdulahi Yusuf as their guide, massacred innocent civilians going about their day-today affairs is a fact everyone knows. SSDF troops? The SSDF was the weakest and least successful of Somalia's rebel groups because of one man. Whatever framework the SSDF was started on, it was completely destroyed by the greed and ineptness of ina Yey.

HornAfrique, we have something in common. My great-grandfather Hassan Qarboobe was one of the hogaamiyayaasha ciidanka boqortooyada. He is buried in Wardhere Region in the Haud.

Congrats to the new sultan. I hope he encourages peace and reconciliation. the fine horses Rer Mudugh have to offer. I am told my great-grandfather, who was one of Boqor Kenadiid's top military commanders, had some of the finest horses in Mudug.

I think just the fact that the ship has actually docked and broke the "code law" (to say) is enough for me. It's a start and a very promising one indeed.