Maadan dihin! Macnaheeduna waa maxay?

^^^Something as basic as that shouldn't be accorded to anyone's "elaboration". p.s. Are you in your difficult mode again.

Do you mean OLOL isn't ethnically Somali, or he isn't nationally Somali? In the sense of the words, Somali nationality is synonymous with the Somali ethnicity. You can be an ethnic Somali without having to be a Somali national, but you can't be a Somali national without being an ethnic Somali. People will just think of you as an ajnabi.

Olol do you ever stop? Sxb, in all honesty, you are one of the main reasons our country is still in turmoil and you are NOT even supposedly Somali! You come in here day by day spitting vile about whole regions, areas, and people of Somali descent. The other side isn't a saint, but you are a whole case in it itself. Stop your melodramatic calaacal everyday and realize it takes two to tango. Don't fall into hypocritical bigotry just so to have a defense mechanism that you think makes you impenetrable. Sxb continue in your path and your insides will turn into wax qurmoon. Other then that you don't seem like a bad person.

These are pictures I've just found.

Waa kuu daayay, but nothing has changed. He is as he has always been. Tani ma ilawday? Though I suppose Morgan's defeat after defeat were tad bit too ego-shattering? War I kid you.

Audacious sxb you are ruining the quality of the forum. A lot of these nomads represent their clan, and you can do so too, but not at the expense of others. Ka gaabso waxaa meesha ka wadid.

^^The pacification of Gedo region and the country as a whole are greatful developments. They might not be involved in the great squabble, but they are certainly carrying out their duty appointed to them as parliamentarians and ministers. They are therefore doing their part in the government. Imagine Mohamud Said Adden in Garbaharey of all places! Until recently men from Buurdhuubo district didn't risk a trip to Garbaharey district and vice versa, but the "cold war" in Gedo is finally crumbling. About time I say. BTW who is Xasan Diric? I'm not familiar with this parliamentarian.

JAAJUS Thanx for sharing. DUKE- Sxb you talk about standing firm? Honestly when has Hiiraale ever swayed from any of his positions? Give me one example of him involving himself in the political pawn games that are going on? One example of him falling in line with the two major camps that are tramping on our hopes for a government? Give me one example of him being anything but true to his political conviction?

^^Do you read what you write? Hiiraale necbow ama kasii necbow, waxaad ka dahi kartid majirto except that he defends against agression.

Samurai dadka inay isbartaan way fiicantahay. You'll find out why we will never get a dawlad and why we will never reconcile.

Excellent! I hope you'll be as ready and eager reporting from the FRONTLINE live. Here, here.

Originally posted by Rahima: Early days yet, so far sadly disappointing, but we wait. Sadly we have no other choice sis. GENERAL DUKE- As always you sxb you do great injustice to our intelligence. Stop speaking like a puppet every few seconds and actually see the situation for what it is (though I do get the hint you're in a perpetual state of denial :rolleyes: ). You hated the President from day one so everything he does is a failure. ..and I never pretended to like him, though I was willing to give him a chance as president of the Somali Republic. Why? Because I believe, as does any sane Somali (what few that's left of them) that this business is much more complicated and intricate then just a single man! However, the man has shown us early in the game just how wrong he is for the important position he was bestowed upon. Raganimadi maydhay? Geesinimadi maydhay? Caqligi meeye? Xil-qabatkii meeye? Dagaal yahanki meeye? He sat like a cornered cat protected by an ajnabi president and an ajnabi security apparatus all the while tramping on our, almost fanatical, hopes for a reprieve from what we have been witnessing for a decade-and-a-half. However all the steps taken by the President have been consistant as has Horn Afrik's silly criticism. Ku Cayni maayo laakiin waxaa kugu dhihi lahaa waxa signature ii ah: Baah Qaah. Baaq Qaaq. Baac Qaac. Baab Qaab. Baaw Qaaw.

^^So "Somaliland" evented the idea of political parties :confused: Or it has followed, like the Somali Republic before it, the footsteps of Western political thought :confused: The things aan faan ka doono waa cajiib...

If I can shoot Cabdulahi Yusuf for anything, it would be for destroying all our hopes! We disliked the man before for his actions, now we despise him for his inactions ! He has been a total and mind-blwoing failure without even lifting a finger! Acuudi bilaah was the surrender of the Puntland people in the hopes of appeasing his maniacle thirst for power that great? He has zero political finesse, which has led him to be riduculed, bested, and made into a laughing-stock by a few uneducated warlords! He has no foresight and is absaloutely backward and primitive for this modern period. War yaa meesha ka bixiyo before his emabarasses himself more and all the Dukes' in this world.

Odayga maxuu yidhi? Ujeedada ma Siyaad Barre wuu naga qaldanaa inuu dagaal nagu qaado markaan la socon waynay, laakiin kuwaane way ku haboontahay inaan dagaal ku qaadno hadayna nala socon waayeen? If one hasn't seen a more pronounced case of hypocrisy I say! Hhm, another excuse for "Somaliland" out the window! Soomaali hadaynu nahay, qolobo deegaankeeda ayagaa iska leh. Old English queen baa tidhi iyo xuduudeena weeye iyo waxaan shaqeeynayn meesha kama jirto. For Somaliland or any other entity to "invade" the deegaans of peaceful people in the hopes of regional hegemony is an act against the Somali people as a whole! P.S. In my opinion Puntland has nothing to do with this anyways. I do not see "Puntland" (pertaining to the autonomous state) as showing agression to the peoples of the land. All I see is "Somaliland" (alluding even to their clans!) as flexing muscle and wishing to acquire more land under the theory of banding up together the mythical [historically questionable] border of some land subservient to a fat European queen who had probably never even dreamed it existed.

Common Sense 101: Political Parties Could be the Answer to Somalia’s Messy Politics By Abdirashid Khalif Hashi Somalia’s political problems are becoming unfathomable to almost everyone who understands the basic definition of politics. The Somali practitioners in the art (or science) of Somali politics have reached a point where they even surprised themselves with their shifting positions, strange and unstable behaviors and amorphous political culture. It is becoming obvious that Somalia’s dominant elite are not willing to see politics as managing conflicting needs of the Somali society. Instead, they reduced politics to a zero-sum game where conflict is the norm and cooperation is the exception. As a consequence, if one of the leaders / faction leaders / MPs/ warlords makes any gains, real or imagined, political or otherwise, this is automatically seen by the rest of his peers as a cardinal threat to their very survival, hence the endless political intrigues - legendry back stabbings, shifting alliances, superficial pledges, lip service pronouncements and the embarrassingly perpetual statelessness in Somalia. It is also obvious that tribal liberation fronts, cascading factions, shifting alliances, the infamous 4.5 clan formula and every opportunistic exercise they have so far indulged in failed to help us establish a stable, peaceful and governable Somalia. I think what Somalia needs now is viable, visionary and genuine political parties that could set new standards and chart new benchmarks for our erstwhile sad politics. After all, political parties have worked for all democracies everywhere and there is no reason why they would not work for us in Somalia. I would even go further and suggest that the ruling camp represented by the President and the Prime Minister may form a party of their own. The other opposing faction within the Transitional Federal Institutions led by the Speaker, the Deputy PM (Sifir) and Mogadishu faction leaders may also form their own party, if they so chose. These two camps may agree to a power-sharing partnership or a government of “national unity†or national reconciliation. Also these two groups may agree to allow one side to rule and the other to be the loyal opposition (a government in waiting of a sort). In such agreement, the opposition waits its turn and takes over power if and when the ruling party fails to lead. Somalis who are not Members of Parliament but have particular political agendas or ideologies might also organize themselves and form their own parties as well. Also MPs who choose not to join the ruling alliance or the main opposition camp might establish their own party. This kind of party must have a long-term national vision, well-defined political platform and fundamental guiding principles or ideology. For instance, if only fifty Members of Parliament out of the 275 MPs form a national political party, which could rise above the petty political bickering, clannish thinking and the prevailing political opportunism perhaps such a party could be the deciding factor in all important national policy issues – that is, if the two other sides (the ruling and opposition camps) continue with their unnecessary, unwarranted and counterproductive ongoing political squabbles. Perhaps the intellectuals and Somalis in the Diaspora and the ordinary citizen, who are in search for genuine political association, might empower such a Somalia-focused national political party. If prudent MPs appreciate their strength and join forces, obviously their political clout would clearly manifest itself and such a party and its potentially positive impact could be a reality in Somalia’s political landscape sooner rather than latter. In short, political parties could tone down the prevailing tribal tendencies in Somalia’s political discourse. Political parties could transform the current antagonistic political attitudes into a positive and healthy competition. Political parties could help Somalis reflect on their common needs and help the forging of common national solutions. Political parties could make Somalis more civil and tolerant towards each other. Political parties could help us steer away from abstract and imaginary problems and force us focus on the real scourges crippling our people. In short, since politics is the art of possibilities, I think it is high time for Somalis turn their energies in forming viable, modern and broad-based political parties with a long- time vision, practical action-plans and genuine guiding principles. The party I think will carry the day and could quickly win the hearts and minds of the Somali people is a national party, which is realistic in its vision, tolerant in its attitude and modern in its outlook. Abdirashid is a Somali Canadian Writer based in Nairobi, Kenya and can be contacted at E-mail: rashid2025@yahoo.com

I agree with the brothers analysis Who thought you wouldn't? :confused:

I have to admit publicly, however, that the majority of Somalis are still staunch supporters of the reconciliation process and willing to give you the benefit of doubt, but let me confess to you honestly; they are extremely allergic to your clan arrogances. I have to agree, except that that the majority of the Somali people are not willing to give the benefit of the doubt.

^^Walahi you're honest to goodness a xaasid. Call you a patriot :confused: Whose patriot? Caadi baaba ka dhigatay dabeecada ehlu-naarka. :eek:

^^That's quite a mouthful Maakhir. Sxb, in all honesty, you have managed to intrigue me as to why you feel that way? What is your foundation for your beliefs? What do you foresee as to the future relationship between Sool/Sanaag and Puntland or Sool/Sanaag and Somaliland? And, lastly, are you of the mind to call for complete autonomy of Sool and Sanaag, join with Somaliland, or stay with Puntland? You have managed to quirk my curiosity with your almost politician-like chosen words above.

You're right, bro. I guess the SBC folks were misinformed and had fixed the problem. Reporters sometimes make mistakes, as you'll find a 'corrections' section in all major American newspapers. As long as SBC made their corrections they are still believable. I guess they are nothing like AllPuntland after all

Secondly, I think I finally understand your dispute. You want me and the world to believe that Gen Morgan was single-handedly defeated by Adeer Barre Hiiraale (and therefore the SNF) What else is there to believe? Sxb Sultan Sokor of reer Afmadow, Dhoobley, Bu'aale, etc himself said on the BBC shortly into the war that Indho-cade burned Dhoobley out of sport because (as the Sultan said) Morgan was already defeated beyond defeat by Barre Hiiraale. ...and by his own words, Indo-cade's excuse for chasing Morgan after Barre was done with was that Morgan had traveled through Indho-cade's "territory" of the Shabeelas. But by all account, let me quit this thread right after you my friend.

Wind SBC ma AllPuntland oo kale ayee noqotay? You first article is highly inaccurate, and to speak bluntly, waxay qoreen waa been.

This is getting extremely redundent, but I'll try to answer some last questions you asked. SXB, in another post, you'd made the comment that, during the USC invasion of Galkayo in the early '90s, an Issim had fled to Cabudwaaq to seek refuge. Also, we're reminded of how Col Hiiraale defended Gedo against the USC. I'm just drawing a simple comparison - how could such a seemingly competent and self-sufficient movement do these to things: 1. Fail to protect the late Somali leader, for he fled and eventually died outside of Somalia 2. Need USC units for the '99 attack on Kismayo You know what I learned about you Wind? Sxb waxaada waa iska dood. Even if you don't know if something happened or not, you use what you believe to be logic and come up with a conclusion that is not necessarily grounded on fact. I don't know you just have to go back and review your writings to see it or not. You said the SNF failed to protect Siad Barre; and I ask in what way? 1. The reason Siad Barre left Gedo to take Nigeria up on their political invitation was because of internal SNF problems that highlighted their internal weakness. Caydiid was coming, and the SNF was divided into "still-recognize Siad Barre as president" or "start new slate" camps. Men such as Da'uud Dirir and Gen Cumar Xaaji Massale ( chairman of the organization and once arrested by Siad Barre for treason during the 80's) were direly opposed to Siad Barre still having a claim to leadership and ruling over them in Gedo. Caydiid was nearing, so Siad Barre thought best to remove himself from the situation and have the SNF fight as a united, whole unit instead of divided, squabbling militias. Another surprise is that you won't acknowledge Indhocade's military involvement during the Jubba wars - but he openly acknowledges that he fought against Gen. Morgan & therefore on the side of the JVA. I'm still debating from which case you suffer from: hurt pride or misinformation. Come again? Sxb the "Jubba wars" in the last episode took an various dimensions. It wasn't a single war, but various ones. It included the one for Kismaayo that took place between Morgan and Hiraale as well as Idho-cade's chase of Morgan. Let's clarify two things. 1. Morgan was rerouted in the first day of battle at Xalimo Cadey by Barre Hiiraale. Morgan then immidiately ran south, but wasn't chased by Barre Hiiraale. You dispute? 2. Indho-cade, who wanted a piece of Morgan, become frusterated when he saw Morgan once more being left alone. He believed that Morgan should have been liquadated once and for all, but saw Barre was leaving him be. He used the excuse that Morgan had "illegally" traveled through "his" territory (Shebbala) to come to Jubbas so he was seeking his revenge. Indha-cade came down to chase the already defeated Morgan and met up with him in Dhoobley, where Morgan was resupplying. Indha-cade did horrible things in Dhoobley, that we cannot excuse, but sxb Morgan was already defeated.