Warar lagu kalsoon yahay So it's ku tidhi ku teen?

Shan Soomali oo wada socdoo Calan ku sheekeeya Shinmaa la arkayaa waa su'aal sharad ka yaallaaye The key word here is "SHAN/5"... that was the reason why Somaliland united with Somalia in the first place. It never were "2". All 5 under one flag, or each under its own flag. What if two of those "SHAN" are illegally occupied areas and under a sort of colonialism? One of those "SHAN" is a geopolitical conundrum to acquire and has a whole different ethinicity for more then a third of its population?

I do agree with the guy who wrote the article in the sense that, despite the fact the Col Yeey/M.Abdi Xashi admin didn't do much in development, they secured northeastern Somalia and such acts didn't take place in their collective 6 years in office. Sxb while Cabdulahi Yusuf's reign was on the whole a stablizing factor for the Northeast, it was nontheless a dictatorship. Sooner or later an uprising was bound to happen, because dictatorships are never permanent and never last. Case point: our former ruling administration that was overthrown after twenty one years. Cabdulahi Yusuf's tenure laid the foundation of the autonomous state of Puntland, but it is Cade's tenure that has the task of laying down the foundation of the future governance of the state. He was chosen democratically, and hence should follow up on situations in a legal and democratic way, not in a repressive and oppressive sort of way that was the case before. It is the people that have to lose the mentality that unless there is a forceful hand in control, then they can do whatever they want. If that's the case then good luck with a modernized and sophisticated 22nd century ruling system.

I think it's incredulous and extremely naive to blame those deaths on Cadde or Af-Qudhac as if those two have a hidden agenda to unstablize their territory. :rolleyes: Wind Talker surely you don't blame them :confused:

She sounds like a young college student. Are you sure she's over 25 :confused:

Rahima I understand the story now. So you know the secret?

Ghedi, The Somali Prime minister is rumored to have fallen in love with Condoleezza Rice, the American Secretary of State and the two were supposed to venture into a secret romantic escapade while in sojourn in Dakar, the Senegalese capital. How very mature.

Originally posted by nomadic activist: quote:let us first get rid of warlords and Barre's ramnants. Yes, lets get rid of them and all the ones that support them .....OPPS there goes the Somali population. We all support them even thou some will stand here and argue otherwise, but deep down inside this little guy is saying "that's my warlord, who hails from my reer hebel, I truley hope he can become president so I can live the rich life that Nomadic activist,horn, and their kinsmen lived." I would appreciate if you stopped using my name in any of your sordid replies to Olol.

Without a doubt, you are possibly one of the biggest bigots I have ever met in a while. Sxb you talk trash and spew trash.

^^I stand corrected sxb.

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^Why do you think that?

Somalis: Masters of Survival Josephine Hart, acclaimed author, once said “Damaged people are dangerous. They know they can survive.†Given the peculiar circumstance in Somalia, the Somali people perfectly fit the above description. The collapse of any vestiges of a central government in 1991 disrupted all sides of the state apparatus and resulted a prolonged civil war which killed a quarter of a million people and forced many Somalis – almost one million - to seek refuge in different parts of the world. The civil war has debilitated the country, suffocated the economy, incapacitated the public and private sectors, and caused distress and hardship on the society at large. Despite all these, Somalia is now a stateless capitalism and the Somali people are running businesses in a unique way in order to survive under a collapsed economy Words are not enough to reflect the chaos, hunger and difficulties that Somalis have endured ever since the civil war broke out; however, they have shown an incredible resiliency to survive which even challenges conventional ideas about any economy. It is generally believed, to enhance or maintain the economic health of a nation there must be a functioning central authority otherwise, reasonable economic activities cannot take place. Since Somalia does not have the necessary institutions that are necessary for a modern state system to operate, it is forced to resort its own devices and develop an informal economy based on informal finances. Soon after the violent removal of Siad Barre in 1991, Somalis understood that the world was not coming to their rescue and they had to forge an economic system in order to survive. They also recognised the importance of restoring the trust needed for the economy to operate. When it comes to trust, Somalia has been suffering from a shortage of trust on many fronts, particularly the political one. The country’s record speaks for itself - 15 national reconciliation conferences within the last 15 years. Strangely, Somalis have managed to adopt an unconventional economy on the basis of upstanding business ethic. This means economic transactions can actually go on without a regulator so long as they are embedded in a pre-existing web of social networks. Joshua Kleymeyer, Euro-Atlantic Action Commission, Center for Strategic and International Studies, described this “One mistake or abuse, and you loose the honor offered to you by your clienteleâ€. Trust is indeed the first of all the instrumentalities that facilitate exchange and the first beneficiary of this unique trust is the Somali shilling. Somalis have shown unwavering loyalty to their currency long after the country lost its Central Bank. Even when The Cairo Times said in 2001 “With no government to issue banknotes, every Somali that can afford it prints his ownâ€. Peter Little explained this extraordinary devotion in his book Somalia: Economy Without State “There are some practical factors that help explain the persistency of Somali shilling, even in the absence of a central bank or treasury. These include, for example, the SoSh is: [1] needed to facilitate transactions in the absence of another widely available currency; [2] in limited supply and therefore its demand is high; and [3] well known to local consumers and businessmen. The trust in the shilling would have been short-lived if the currency could not be moved around. In order to satisfy the money transfer demand, Somalis chose an ancient and efficient system of exchange called Hawala. Wire services, or hawala, fill the role of financial institutions in Somalia, Ahmed Mohamed, a Somali business expert, said, “Currently, there are no banking and regulatory financial institutions to provide the services required by individuals and businesses in Somalia. Furthermore, internal and external investment is exceptionally reduced due to multiple risk factors. However, all is not lost; an expansion of the traditional ‘hawala’ services enables the remittance organisations to act, not only as money-transfer agents, but also as conduits for trade and as quasi-banks. These remittance organisations currently are the lifeline for a significant portion of Somalis and form the backbone of the economy, bringing close to US $1 billion annually from over one million Somali migrants living abroad.†Earlier, Hawala service providers used to arrange for a trusted individual to deliver the money by hand. In order Hawala to be competitive and cheap, Somalis realised the limitation of the delivery process and sought other ways to overcome. Anna Lindley, University of Oxford, wrote “After the government collapsed, there was no longer control of the radio system and by using high-frequency (HF) radios; it became possible to communicate cheaply with many places in Somalia.†Since the Somali society has essentially been globalised, HF is not a useful tool for a global remittance system. Once again Somalis chose Hawala to run on modern gadgets like computers and satellite phones. The growth in information and communication technology enables Hawala to become a quick, competitive and cheap way to transfer funds. The aim of the above discussion is not to present the Somali economy and society with an overly rosy picture. On the contrary, Somalia is the poorest country in the world. A report published by the UNDP in 2002 depicted the poignant realities in the country, “In Somalia, life expectancy is 47 years, almost one out four children dies before the age of five, and less than a third of Somalis have access to health services. Only one out of every five Somalis can write and read, and only 14 percent of children are enrolled in primary schools. More than three-quarters of the Somali population has no access to clean water, and almost half of them have no access to sanitation.†Whatever the circumstances, there is one undeniable fact about this unique nation. Somalia is a nation where survival is around the clock occupation and Somalis are now masters of survival. They have shown an incredible capacity to withstand hardship and challenges using their entrepreneurial skills, and that they can even compete with neighbouring countries that have functioning governments. Little also noted this “with inconsistent and minimal international assistance, there were few options but to develop a ‘second economy’ based on cross-border trade and smuggling, informal finance, and a global system of remittance that has allowed the territory to maintain a level of economic welfare comparable to some of its neighborsâ€. Mohamed Mukhtar London Email: mohamed323@hotmail.com

Horn Xaal marin ayaan rabaa sxb Lol sxb xaal qaado. Just change "her" to "him" and apologies again. PS:I thought HA would describe you since you are colleagues at politics section and had few heated debates Lol Og, i though we were supposed to describe the people above us.

Beelaha USCda oo ah beesha kaliya markii loo fiiriyo aan lagu arkeynin hal qof oo nidaam rabo ama jecel mar uun in uu dalka ku soo noqdo xasiloonida iyo kala dambeeynta What a bunch of BS. Nomads, this is the other reason of why we have a long way to go in our search for peace and properity. Why would you even generalize a whole population into a despicable rationale as that? Acuudki we never stop. Sxb take those empty words back and try to see the picture as a whole. As I've said before it takes two to tango.

...Takes pride in her city of Rokko (right?). Lives in Australia where she displays a true sense of realism. Can be comedic at times, but seems more private then loud.

DB

^^^sour grapes, i see nothing changes, anything positive coming out of the 'current' Somalia govnt? It's called sarcasm Northernor, is daji. Besides we all respect Edna Aden for her maternity hospital and things she has done for our people. Her policies and quotes, however, are testament to her caqlixumo. The proof is in the pudding and I truly believe Somaliland isn't going anywhere but back to the Republic. History will show will judge Edna Aden and Faysal Cali Waraabe, not us. I mean of course Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee (for thos who studied the American civil war) were heroes in their days and time, and now even the flag they coined is controversial! I can't tell you why she was chosen to be on the program (only the producer does), and we can all come up with our hypothesis, but what's appearent is that she won't be invited again.

^^Precisely. On what grounds? I don't conform to a clannist ideology as he would like me to be. Why? It would legitimize his stances. Juma you are like any other Somali sxb. They have an outer shell as a defense mechanism to hide whatever insecurities they may have. As for Haddad, sxb you are a form of entertainment all by yourself.

^^They would have if there were less of people with your political mentality.

Out of topic, but on average don't Yemenis consume more khat then we do?

Originally posted by Jumatatu: quote:Originally posted by HornAfrique: Olol do you ever stop? Sxb, in all honesty, you are one of the main reasons our country is still in turmoil and you are NOT even supposedly Somali! Could you care to clarify how Olol is the main reason for the turmoil? Quite interesting I think I missed a point where Olol was marked out as a prime Warlord.. :confused: :confused: Like I said, he is one of the main reasons, but folks with your ideology are what's stopping us from going forward.

Originally posted by Abdi2005: maybe. But i realy doubt after tomorrow the only thing they remember will be the "somali" part. I'm afraid people will get negative picture because of hear unintelligible contribution :rolleyes: . Will she still be the orphan of the English queen?

Edna has made a habit of making forceful speeches about the wonders of Somaliland and how we are a debt-free, non-corrupt, self-sufficient Shangri-La in Africa. This worked for a little while with few Western journalists looking for exactly such fanciful stories from the continent but the shelf-life of such myths was always going to be short. Sooner or later someone was going to call Edna’s bluff and bring her down to earth. This is exactly what happened last night on the Question-Time programme from Johannesburg when Her Excellency repeated the same dross for the umpteenth time. While answering a question about aid and Africa she made the incredibly cheeky claim that Somaliland survives on “30 million dollars a year all of which comes from our own resources….â€. She capped this nonsense by saying “we receive no aid nor have any debtsâ€. Unfortunately for Edna the wily and well connected Dimbleby has done his home work well and found out the truth about Edna’s Shangri la. Not only does Somaliland receive aid it is in fact almost completely dependent on aid for its entire budget. He discovered that the $30 million Edna mentioned are mostly bungs from friendly western countries. He decided it was time to burst Edna’s Alice in Wonderland bubble. “But you ask for aid it is just you don’t get it†he probed Edna who was uncharacteristically dumbfounded for a very long second. She soon recovered and retorted “we ask for recognitionâ€. The boy from Britains’ broadcasting aristocracy wasn’t going to be taken for a ride by this African matriarch. He decided to drive his advantage home perhaps a little riled by a stunning verbal slap he received earlier from Moeletsi Mbeki whom he tried to patronise about his brother the South African president. “South Africa is not a family business†said the younger Mbeki to guffaws of laughter from the audience. TV show hosts’ highly developed egos are extremely delicate and they do not enjoy to be laughed at. “But you do ask for aid as wellâ€? He repeated before Edna realised she had had her waterloo. To her credit she rallied forcefully saying that we are entitled to ask for development aid. What is more telling was the reaction of the South Africa audience. She simply did not win them over to her side or her cause. South Africans, like Africans elsewhere, know as much about Somaliland as they do about dark side of the moon. What they wanted to hear was generally dependent on their race: The Whites would have been very happy if Edna recommended Mugabe for lynching, sang the praises of benevolent white farmers who so selflessly feed the hungry natives, lashed out at aid givers and blamed everything bad about bad Africa on Black incompetence, rampant promiscuity, superstition and genetically inherited corruption. Morgan Tsvagirai, the Zim opposition leader knew this and by and large followed this line throughout the programme. The Black audience on the other hand did not warm to Mr. Tsvangirai. They wanted to blame all kinds of africa’s miseries from terrorism to Aids to Mugabe’s behaviour on big bad whitey. It was all the fault of the dastardly colonials and surely it is their moral, legal and ethical responsibility to sort it out. Edna was caught in a dilemma she clearly did not predict and did not prepare for. And having no political campus of any sort to guide her responses, she flapped about and pleased neither side. In her first response she managed to fundamentally contradict herself about the causes of terrorism. She boldly and correctly asserted that poverty is no excuse for murder yet suffixed her response with the opposite. Wow Dheh.

Rahima I actually do, laakiin noomaadka waaba nooc kale.