Originally posted by Xaji_Xunjuf: quote:Originally posted by Gabbal: quote: Originally posted by Xaji_Xunjuf: you did not answer the question bal ku noqo. Caro is one word with two different meanings based on how you pronounce it (classic tonal language). Also inan is written inan, how do you signify masculine and feminine? Thats why its not caro its cadho and not caro caro means dhulka carada What about inan and na*cas? You don't see it but you are giving me theories as to how DH came to be borrowed from our eastern Cushitic neighbors by those who neighbor it. Chinese confuses most Chinese as a premier tonal language and I am sure such an evolution as borrowing would have happened if the Chinese did not develop a writing system earlier. I now know the "dh" speakers fell through the crack in the absence of a written script while the reer Koonfureed held on for dear Mary.

Originally posted by Xaji_Xunjuf: you did not answer the question bal ku noqo. Caro is one word with two different meanings based on how you pronounce it (classic tonal language). Also inan is written inan, how do you signify masculine and feminine?

badhi bari ka so jeeda??. I want to educate you not make you look like a fool. Do you understand Somali is one of the most classic tonal languages in modern linguistics and cited in that regard? Do you know what that signifies in that regard? for instance sentenceka siday ugu jirto Thank you. You now understand why context is what matters not "kalmahada inay kala duwanaadaan"

Perhaps Xaaji needs to address what I have brought before him. I will feel at least self-satisfied knowing I have contributed to some sort of learning if anything.

Originally posted by Abwaan: quote:Originally posted by Polanyi: Any reasons why Gabbal is now the biggest Sol supporter of the tfg? Waa su'aal da' weyn oo madaxa daalineysa ee aan u duceyno inuu dowladaha ka dambeeyana sidaan u taageero...lol for the Dh or r....Nebi Alloow ninba afkii kugu ammaan... Dowladda Farmaajo xubneheeda aqooni kuma yara, Ilaah haka dhigo mid waxqabadna ku darsata. Abwaanoow, beryahan maad is tiri xooga waad i yara kulaalinaysaa? Meel alle meeshaan istaago, sida askari lay xilsaaray baad hal il igu haysaa.

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: xaajigu maanta xoogaa runtuu u dhawaaday Maxuu runta ka sheegey Xiin? A man that is ignorant enough to believe the Somali language, like all other human languages, does not have homonyms? I expected better Xiin. afka aadamigu eeh basharku ku hadlo si uu u tisqaado waa in uu kala soocnaada oo waxaad sheegaysaa aan wax kale loo malayn. wixii san iyo wixii xumi si loo kala garto waa in ay kala dhawaaq ahaadaan. Perhaps you should revert back to late Shire Jaamac's accepted grammar book back in the 70's on the Somali language. What about: Bar = mole Bar = teach Bar = half Bar = location ? The only way to get over that is to change the spelling to represent what each means but in speech, they would all naturally sound the same and they should without the theory being one has to be changed in speech as you used the case "badh" and "gogol xaadh". In English, look at break (jabi) and brake (firiin). In speech they sound exactly the same and did not have to changed either by natural or unnatural process but the spelling has been changed to adapt to writing. With respect to speech, you depend on the context as it should be and as it is for common Somali. Now in the context of Bar, which I have used for multiple homonym, look at the English word "Fluke" which even with Bar has not had a change of spelling with respect to various meanings: Fluke = fleeting luck Fluke = fish Fluke = fins on whale's tail Fluke = marine anchor's bottom Less opinion and more fact would be helpful good Xaaji.

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: Gabbal, is Somali not eastern cushitic, how can borrow from them? Well for starters, the Cushitic languages are sometimes thought to be a sprachbund much the same way as in the Southeast Asian languages, meaning languages not necessarily coming from source but influenced each other due to geographical proximity. But beyond that, Somali had to evolve individually and most linguists I have read stress the "r" in such situations is part of the ancestral evolution of the language and that the use of "dh" particularly and mostly by people who do use it neighboring our western neighbors, that it had to have been "back migration" (in biological terms). This means R would have to have been the usage before the western most Somalis were influenced, thus not being the "Somali ancestral" vernacular. I only opined on this based on Miskin's accurate clarification that contrary to what Zack said, Bari does not use it nor the rest of Somalis in their entirety, nor the NFD who border the Bantu speakers nor the May May speakers who are even more ancestral to Maxa Tiri speakers, nor even the eastern most inhabitants of the ******. But that's that.

Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^ In keeping with the theme of this thread, would you say he was impressed with the Prime Minister's qualifications? I have become impressed and if the factors in place took place with anyone else, I would still be impressed.

Libaax, perhaps my perception of the nature of advanced politics and my assumption about that nature as it applies to our illiterate and primitive homeland were not parallel. Thanks for pointing it and I concur with you. Xiin, sxb bring up my less than best moments up but you know my overall views better.

Thanks Libaax, you understood the picture that I saw.

I don't believe for a second Faroole is this reactionary. You have to give him credit, I don't particularly fancy his less than "siyaasad bisil" demeanor ever since the departure of Abdullahi Yusuf as TFG president, but I remember the old Faroole during his old squabble with Abdullahi Yusuf in Puntland. Odeygu maahan odey waxaanoo kale ku dhaqaaqi lahaa. Soomaalidu waa iyadii tiri si xun wax u sheeg, sixir ka daran. "Saxaafada" Soomaaliyeed war xumo tashiil ayaa caado u noqotay.

Tomato, tomato. Besides, if you research the linguistic history of Somali, the "dh" for "r" by a section of the Somali-speaking people is loaned from the Eastern Cushitic speakers such as Afar and Oromo and is not part of the ancestral evolution of the language. With respect to the rest of your post, indeed one can only be optimistic.

Libaax, you live in the civilized world awoowe, what is this misconception about the nature of federalism as it works in the federal policy level? The cabinet is and should be completely at the discretion of those in power on the federal level without sense of control in representation by those at the state level. When you say " It is legitimate fight on Faroole’s part that the share of cabinet ministers allocated for Puntland clans be given to folks that are responsive advocates of the state’s interest", you remind everyone who understands Somalia's past, present, and can foresee its future why federalism will never be implemented given the socio-politico nature of the Somali populace and the equivocation of federal states with clan factors.

Farmaajo didn't even come to my mind while making that post. Balse la yaab ma lehid, Soomaali baad u tahay taasi.

Waa siyaasi bisil ninkani. After this interview I doubt he ever was or will be pro-secession. Abwaan- Ku tiri ku teen weeyaan waxaasi adeer. Caqliga saliimka maba qaadan karaya nin reer Hargeisa ah oo xilkiisi sidaa u isticmaalay in mar labaad sidan loo sharfi lahaa.

Rabbi waydii.

Nassir, I am not in a position to contest the basis of your grievance, but if you will air it you should do so bringing forward the advocacy for your cause, as Hunguri has done honorably, rather than taking every opportunity to attack Farmaajo's background for his own independent judgment. It became redundantly petty after the first couple responses.

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I don't understand where Faroole or Puntland state are coming from. Puntland clearly is unable to take Laas Caanood from Somaliland, why then be so opposed to local's efforts to act in that regard? Is Puntland's fear a successful local takeover of Laascaanood from Somaliland that that effectively degletimizes Puntland's control? "Waxaanu ognahay in niman Xamar loogu yeeray, hub iyo lacag loo balanqaaday" :confused:

Originally posted by General Duke: Gabbal as usual talks the usual cheap shite. The three Ministers represent Puntland, as Goldogob & Buhudle are Puntland as Bosaso and Garowe. Gabbal might not know that the speaker of Puntland State is himself from Goldogob and we already know where the VP hails from and various powerful figures. The problem here is under his logic his sub clan have no region since its all under Al Shabaab and Ahlu Sunna. We have also seen how successful old Hiiraale was in Beled-Hawo. Adeer Puntland fails to represent more than a subclan with a Somaliland flag on Laas Caanood. Hays ceebeyn.

Taleexi waan ka noqday kolkaan wacay yaraanki abtiga aan u ahaa. Also, Jaalle signifies a market administration I am a opposed to. I am not a comrade.

Puntland cannot claim to represent more than Garowe with Laas Caanood and Ceerigaabo under Hargeisa control. Realities must be understood as they stand. Puntland as it stands can claim to be represented by only Professor Abdiwali, a man I respect and admire and who is a good family friend. Even still, I presume Faroole will be more disappointed with Abdiwali than Cumar Abdirashiid, based on Abdiwali's absolute nationalistic demeanor. Qaran before qabiil was always his motto. Being a Somali professor from Western New York like the prime minister, I assume the two are very close friends.

Waan ku qanacsanahay in laygu tilmaayo gibin. Also, I believe I might have been mistaken about the author, his name is an approximation to a very bright Ivy League educated prolific writer of a nephew of mine. If incorrect, I stand corrected.

Tii hore iyo ta danbeba waa isku mid, intuba waa Hodanbari. Armaad Gelinsoor ku qaladay? Mudane Gacaliye baa ninkaan adeer ugu aadan. Waa niman ceelki Berdacad wax ka cabo.

Xiin, reer Dhabat ciday tahay soo ogoow.