Originally posted by LayZieGirl: Haye, Haye, Haye, you are one to talk. I don't think you realize half the things you say most of the time HornOfAfka. For instance, how am I yelling? How do I fit in all of this? I am not the one who swore and said quote: Walahi I see so much more young Somali girls donning the hijaab (the one with indho-shareer), You probably thought you knew what you were talking about since you based your views and its entirety over several individuals you come across(which clouded your judgement overall)and to top it all, you swore on it. I called you out on it and in return, instead of saying LayZie, I shouldn't have to swear and talk of subjects I have no clue about, you just came up with I said I, me, HornAfrique, moi am seeing much more Somali girls donning the hijaab. I didn't say that is the case for all Somalis or even majority/minority of Somali girls. I said I, moi am seeing more Somali girls doing that. Meaning my own two eyes, get it? It is what I am noticing, and not what is necessarily correct for all the Somali sisters. Now why should that bother you I wonder :confused: If you do not wear the hijaab, it is your business. I could care less. I wonder why Somali girls wearing the hijaab should bother you?

Alle-Ubaahne are you a jaajuus?

^^I don't know what I have done to you, but it seems I got on your bad side for one reason or another. First it was the Tarawiix thread and now this? I think I better start ignoring you. I shy away from negative presence. I don't even know what to say since I don't even hold your "cyper acquaintance". :cool:

Typo hah? Anyways never mind. BTW I didn't know I owned tuulos or was it supposed to be some sort of sarcasm?

I don't want to start an argument nor want to start a squabble, but why did you not make the title of your article and the name of your thread the same? It was: Love on the Net enchants Somaliland teenagers You changed it to: Love On The Net Enchants Somali Teenagers I am not saying you can't do that, but whenever there is any remotely positive news coming from that area it's always "Somaliland" and never "Somali" or "Somalia"; so let's just say this just caught me by surprise. Maybe you don't think this is positive news? If I am blowing in the wind, just ignore it bro, I was just curious.

My soon is between my creator and I; do not use it as a excuse for poisonous uttering. Reer Koreey ku ye. Walahi taasu waa wax an wali la yaaba nahay.

Who can deny that Igaal, alaha ha u naxariisto, was quite the statesman? At a time when Somalis loved each other and wanted each other. Will we ever see that again?

Layzie OK they are not wearing jalbaabs, they are all half-naked. Now what do you have to yell about? Acudibilaah shaydaanka iska naar walaal.

Originally posted by Professor.: I specially wanna see Wordetta. lol Wordetta is family, close family. We don't deal well with suitors that come out of nowhere. quote: Originally posted by raula: Now San Jose...beautiful(when u know half-moon bay and Monterey is just next door..not to mention Shasta mountain/redding, and down south u got Ventura ) San Jose aa? You got to be kiddin! I spent my summer in the little beach town of Santa Cruz on the southern mouth of the Monterey Bay so I had plenty of time to visit San Jose. It was most possibly the least appealing place I have had the dis-pleasure of visiting. A dry city without good views surrounded by bleak reddish/brown mountains and desert. The whole environment was depressing. You and Baashi are probably being influenced by the lack of food resulting from your fast. BAASHI- Magaaladeena waad gaftay ina adeer. It's interesting how you keep mentioning Tukwila and Kent which are suburbs of Seattle while not saying anything about neighborhoods within the vicinity of the city of Seattle itself. Places such as Beacon Hill, Pioneer Square, Wallingford, Ballard, U-District, Capitol Hill, Mercer Island, Seward Park, our business district etc. By the way, we are not responsible for every Somali that lives here. We all came to the Emerald City during the same time, more or less, some choosing to stay behind should not reflect badly on the rest of Somali community or Seattle itself. I mean, seriously, Somalis in "Seattle" live all over the Puget Sound and surrounding areas, so there is no effective way to uniformly classify the people here. Alpha and Pacifist, until I am ready to go back to Somalia, Seattle all the way baby! :cool:

^ :confused: Reer Koreey :confused: Ma Shariifkaad xig-sanaysaa? Qabaa'ilkuu yahaybo walaal, he is the Speaker of the Parliament of the Somali Federal Democratic Republic. He is not the mayor of Baydhabo nor the governor of Bakool, and I would hope you do not mistake it as such. Somalis are amazing iga dheh..

Madaxweyne C/llaahi Yuusuf iyo Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka oo lagu kulansiinayo magaalada Kismaayo Arbaco, October 12, 2005(HOL): Idaacadda Qur'aanka Kariimka ee magaalada Muqdisho ayaa maanta waxay sii deysay war sheegaya in Madaxweynaha Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliyeed Md. C/llaahi Yuusuf Axmed iyo Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Soomaaliyeed Md. Shariif Xasan Shiikh Aadan lagu kulansiinayo magaalada Kismaayo ee gobolka Jubbada Hoose. Idaacadda oo warka uu soo gaarsiiyay wariye u jooga Jowhar oo isna soo xignayay ilo wareed oo ku dhow xafiiska Madaxweynaha ayaa intaas waxay ku sii dartay in madaxweynaha uu dhawaan socdaal ku tegi doono magaalada Kismaayo, inkastoo aaney rasmi ahaan sheegin goorta uu socdaalkaasi ku beegan yahay. Madaxweyne C/llaahi Yuusuf iyo Guddoomiye Shariif Xasan ayaa waxay kala hoggaamiyaan labada garab ee ay u kala jabtay dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliyeed, kuwaasi oo ku kala sugan magaalooyinka Muqdisho iyo Jowhar, iyadoo labadan mas'uulna ay ku kala tageen muran ka dhashay halka ay saldhiganeyso dowladda iyo weliba in ciidamo nabad ilaalin ah la geeyo Soomaaliya. Dhanka kalena waxaa noogu war dambeysay labadan mas'uul iyagoo kala aaminsan fikrado aad u kala fog oo ku saabsanaa qaabka looga heshiin karo khilaafka ku kala dhex jira xubnaha dowladda, iyadoo Madaxweyne C/llaahi Yuusuf Axmed uu sheegay in xalka arrintaas uu ku jiro dowladda dhexdeeda, halka Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaankana uu sheegay in loo baahan yahay cid seddexaad oo labada dhinac dhexdhexaadisa, cidaas oo uu ku tilmaamay Qaramada Midoobay. Waxaa xusid mudan in Wasiirka Dib u dhiska iyo Dib u dejinta Xukuumadda Federaalka Soomaaliyeed Xildhibaan/Wasiir Barre Aadan Shire Hiiraale oo dhawaan socdaal ku tegay magaalada Muqdisho uu soo jeediyay in labada dhinac ee Dowladda Federaalka wada hadal laga dhex furo, iyadoo dadaalkiisaasna ay soo dhaweeyeen xubno badan oo ka tirsan Dowladda Federaalka, hayeeshee waxaanan caddeyn in kulankan haddiiba uu jiro uu isla Barre Hiiraale ka dambeeyo. Ugu dambeyntiina, Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Soomaaliya oo haatan ku sugan magaalada Nairobi ee dalka Kenya ayaa la sheegayaa in uu saacadaha soo socdo u amba bixi doono dalka Sweden halkaasi oo uu kaga qeybgeli doono shir muhiim ah oo looga hadlayo arrimaha maamul wanaaga Baarlamaanada Afrika, mana jiraan ilaa iyo haatan wax hadal heyn ah oo ka soo baxday dhinaca Guddoomiyaha oo xaqiijinaya jiritaanka kulanka la sheegay in lagu dhexdhexaadinayo labada mas'uul ee Kismaayo ka dhacaya. Salaad Iidow Xasan (Xiis), Hiiraan Online sxiis@hiiraan.com Mogadishu, Somalia

Baashi, reading your post, I would never want to live there sxb! But seeing as though I have been living for close to fifteen years, I can say you were overly critical of the Somali population sxb. I started this topic about the city of Seattle itself, but since you analyzed the Somali community let's go there. It's a gray, cloudy, and rainy for the most of the year! For how long? here is the surprise: nine frikking months! What a big misconception. Seattle is not Florida, but it's hardly gray and cloudy even half the time my man. As for rain? That is the biggest stereotype people hold against Seattle and its not a very accurate one sxb. 75% of the time the city is dry, but when it rains, it pours! That being the reason people make the mistake of thinking it rains all the time. Chicago gets about or at times more rain then we do and no one cites them! Because their rain is infrequent as opposed to ours. Besides I love the rain. :cool: It gets F for commuting. It has only one main highway (I-5). Hwy I-90 is not much of a help. Granted there are corrolory bypasses but that's it! They are batch fixes to I-5. What you forgot to mention is that Seattle is the most narrowest major American city right between Lake Washington and Pugest Sound. Our freeway is perfectly designed on the north/south scale and has the distinction of running right through the city. Hop on the I-5 (not on rush hour) and you are five minutes everywhere the U-District to Sea-Tac Airport. Somali community live all over and apart each other. They have not so fancy biz going in the getto area of Tukwilla. Roads are terrible there even though they finnaly fixed the International blvd. Somali Restuarents are terrible as well. As you said Somalis live all over the place. There are a couple of areas where we are very visible, but majority of the time we are assimilated into our neighborhoods. From Shoreline north of Seattle, Edmonds, to Seattle itself, Bellevue, Sea-Tac, Tukwila (you said a ghetto? sorry buddy Seattle has the distinction of being one of few major cities without ghettos), Auburn, Renton, etc. So we are divided, but when there is a call in the community, we all come to the rescue sxb. Majority of the Somalis are blue colour workers with manial jobs. Surprisingly enough, many of them work in the Seatac airoport! The good thing is almost all of them do work though. A lotta cabies too. Blue collar jobs are a Somali-wide occupation my man, irrespective of city. More and more younger Somalis, in Seattle atleast, are successful professions. My acquaintances include two accountants, a chain-store manager, and couple, yes couple, of med students close to graduation. That's just my acquantances. What about their acquantances and so on? We're gettin there sxb. If you are the hip kinda fella too bad...u better mix with non-Somalis for an entertainment cuz Somalis seem to be qaad-jewing group and cheap hard-liqour drinking who go to cheap nite clubs. That is a big problem, but I suppose it is not exclusice to Somalis in Seattle. On the bright side there are a lot of students, sports (soccer mainly), handful of college going nomads. Religiouly inclined Somalis are very organized and have their leader Sh. Ibrahim. They have raised about over a million dollars for a new Masjid that will be constructed in the Tukwilla area. They have bought the land and will start another fundraising events soon. One of our high points is the respect our religious authorities hold. Despite what Somalis do in the dark here, when a religious call is sent, they hike thier pants up and respond favorable. As for the Masjid, I can not wait till it is built. :cool: Seattle is the only city in the states and I have been in several cities that I have seen Somali prostitutes. To be exact I have seen a young thug wannabee 18 yr old prostitute on Inetrnational Blvd!!!! Waat..! Maxaa tidhi? Sxb like I have said, I have lived in this city for over 15 yrs and I have never seen such thing. For sure there Somalis that hold their morales loosely , be they men or woman, but I have never seen a Somali prostitue nor heard of it. Knowing Somalis, if such thing existed I would probably have heard of somewhere. BTW Tukwilaa ku dhex laaban jirtay miyaa? I am hardly at Tukwila.

^^Lool..!! There's more to our city then ( 1.) maqaayad. Seattle is the ugly twinbrother of Vancouver, Aeronwen. Don't go there unless its an emergency. That would hurt too; if I didn't you lived in Europe and had no idea what you're talking about. Sky, Mr. All things negative, I think the woman decided damnit! Aeronmen (Pyromaniac pyxie/cushitic cutie?) you didn't hear wrong. Aah I can see a saying or two comming up, nin is faanshay waa ri is nuugtay. Anyways we will be delighted to have you. :cool:

^^Shariifka is not a warlord, because a warlord is a military leader; good or bad. Shariifka on the other waa daneeyste ee save the lil pep talk brotha!

^^That just goes to show you how biased that magazine is. By the way, how did they judge "most livable"? Sound as though it is littered with opinions, since to each his/her own criteria. Bishaaro LOL! hardly anyone drinks that here, because there is a starbucks in every block corner. Matter of fact, my first job was as a cashier at a starbucks.

Maskiin once you get a good look at the culture of the people we live with, I am not surprised at what those young Somali girls are doing. Walahi I am not. I actually pity the situations they are in, and I think if we do not find solutions to our Soomaali-wide problems in living in the West, our morales and values will degenerate even more. Let us be honest, Somalia was not pre-marital sex free either! However there were inistutions and rules there, however unnofficial, that prevented abortions and their likes from happening. As a culture in the west, atleast in my native city Seattle, we, especially our girls, have rebounded and re-deemed ourselves from even what we were a couple of years ago. Walahi I see so much more young Somali girls donning the hijaab (the one with indho-shareer), practicing their religion, valuing their culture, and flirting and socializing with the opposite sex in the manner our ancestors have done for countless generations. You will see groups and groups of young teenage Somali girls, each veiled to the teeth, jumping of from the metro buses that brought them all the way across town, from their high schools, to the front of the masaajid so they can pray Salaatul-Jimca. You will chuckle at times when you see them encouraging the boys to learn by using reverse psycology. Honestly, a revolution has hit our young girls in Seattle and I think it is a matter of time before the boys catch it. Inshallah we will perserve. By the way, I watched a video of a Somali-Canadian Sheikh by the name of Rashiid..? Anyways that particular speech that took place in northern European city was about the proplems facing the Somali youth in the west. He is an educated doctor, and walahi it was the most enlightening and interesting speech I have ever listened to. It had the right edge of seriousness, satire, advice, and most of all understanding that Somali youths want to hear. It spoke of subjects ranging from drugs, behaviour, career goals, flirting, sex, schools, friends, and just about everything else important in the lives of today's young Somali people. I would highly recommend it.

^That hurts.. Vancouver should be competing with New York and Los Angeles. Since she can't, it's OK we will let her compete with us. :cool:

Shariifka has proven to be an opportunistic, attention-seeking, selfish individual. Let him trapse around the world, having his five minutes of fame (of lack of) will come back to hunt him, I dare say! I don't believe he correctly understood the description of his position. If he is the Speaker of the Parliament, why does he seem to think he is Somalia's at-large International Ambassador?

^^lol! It's pronounced Siyaa-tal [by Somalis], Siyaa-lel [by Somali women] and Siyaa-dal [ by English speakers]. Your article says Toronto is considered to hold that title. Seattle is said to hold that title. But hey [?], how important is that anyways?

Seattle * Founded 1869 * Latitude: 47°39'N Longitude: 122°17'W * Seattle Land Area 84 square miles * City Population: 563,000; Metropolitan Population: 3,275,000 * Miles to Canadian border 113...to Mount Rainier 87 * Average annual rainfall is 36". Compare it to 15" in LA, 34.5" in Chicago, 39" in Washington DC, and 40" in New York City. Snow in Seattle is a rare treat. * Average daily high temps: Oct, 60/ Jan, 45/ Apr, 58/ July, 75/ * Number of 0° days: none, in 80 years of record-keeping * Seattle nicknames: The Emerald City, The Jet City, The Queen City, Seatown, Rain City * Seattleites buy more sunglasses per capita than any other city in the nation. Wonder why? * The Puget Sound region is home to more than 2,000 software and digital media firms. * Established in 1907, the Farmer's Market at Pike Place Market is the longest continuously operating farmer's market in the U.S. * Seattle is second only to New York City in the per capita number of live performances held each year. The arts scene includes 29 professional theater companies, and more than 80 live music clubs. * Seattle's Pacific Northwest Ballet has the highest per capita dance attendance in the U.S. * Seattle ranks second in the U.S. among adults with a bachelor's degree or higher (nearly 50%) and has one of the highest rates of home Internet access. * Seattle has more bookstores per capita than any other city, with Seattleites spending double the national average on books yearly. * Seattle, with the largest percentage of library cardholders in the nation (80%), is second to only to Minneapolis in literacy, measured by education, newspaper readership, bookstores, and library use. * The world's first espresso cart was established in Seattle in 1980: below the Monorail terminal at Westlake Center. * The Northwest Folklife Festival takes over Seattle Center over Memorial Day weekend, when 5,000 performers and artists present the music, dance, craft and food of the world. * In 1999, the Mount Baker ski area in northwest Washington set the world record for seasonal snowfall with 1,124 inches. * The Seattle Sonics hold the distinction of playing the first and only NBA game that ever rained out. It happened in January 1986 at the Seattle Center Coliseum. * Jefferson Park Golf Course, in Seattle's Beacon Hill neighborhood, opened in 1915 as the nation's first public golf course. * More people in Seattle commute to work via bicycle than any other city in the United States. * Seattle was the first major U.S. city to provide free bus service in its central business district. * Seattle boasts more glassblowing studios than any other city in the U.S. and second only to the island of Murano near Venice, Italy. * Bertha Landes was elected mayor of Seattle in 1926, thus becoming the first female mayor of a major American city. * The Seattle International Film Festival, held annually mid-May to mid-June, is the largest film festival in North America. * Built in 1950, the Mercer Island Floating Bridge (now I-90) was the first floating bridge in the world. * The Washington State Ferry System is the largest ferry system in the U.S. and the state's #1 tourist attraction. * Seattle has more pleasure boat owners per capita than any other metropolitan city. * Seattle's Elliott Bay is home to the world's largest tugboat races held annually in May. * The world's first hydroplane racing boat was built in Seattle. * Bio- and medical technology generate $2 billion annually in the state's economy and directly account for 15,000 jobs in 170+ companies and nonprofit organizations. * Seattle's Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center receives more funding from the federal government than any other cancer research facility in the nation.

Nobel for literature being announced this week LAST UPDATE: 10/11/2005 5:36:14 AM STOCKHOLM, Sweden (AP) - The Swedish Academy is announcing the winner of this year's Nobel Prize in literature on Thursday. Favorites include Americans Philip Roth and Joyce Carol Oates along with Canadian Margaret Atwood and Nuruddin Farah of Somalia. Many Nobel observers were surprised the honor was not handed out last week. The rest of this year's Nobel Prizes already have been announced.

http://www.hiiraan.org/2005/oct/somali_news11_3.html

2. A Somalia free from radicalism and religious extremism War orad Ramadaan weeye, kitaab intaad soo qadati, akhri oo ajar saamiso.

Honesty is a virtue Bari. The man put in Somali Galbeed for sugary effect. Look at his next sentence, " those that the former dictator brought in and made them millitary leaders, regional leaders committed heinous crimes." He ment Gedo and Galgadud sxb.

Congratulations to the hardwon victory, Mr. President! Victorygiisa looma diidanee, maxaase xaalada Soomaaliya iska badalay walaal? Seriously, I want you to contemplate for even a second what could have been achieved as opposed to anything else.