Gabbal
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^^It's a pop culture effect. Maxamed Siyaad Barre waa uumka aaqiree, alaha ha u naxariisto.
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Qiimaha Dhulka Oo 70% Kordhay Deegaano Ka Tirsan Gobalka Gedo Degaano ka tirsan gobalka Gedo oo ay ka mid yihiin magaalo madaxda gobalka Gedo ee G/Haarey iyo degmada T.Barwaaqo ayaa qiimaha dhulka guryaha iyo kuwa beerahuba ay 70% kor u kaceen. Sicir bararkan ayaa waxaa lagu waramayaa inay ay ugu wacan tahay kadib markii jaaliyadaha dibbada ee beelaha degmooyinkaas ay maalin geli xoog leh ku sameeyeen degaanadaas. Magalaada madaxda gobalka Gedo ee G/Haarey oo qiimaha dhulka uu iminka cirka isku shareeray ayaa waxaa aad looga dareemayaa dhismayaasha guryaha casriga iyo goobooyin ganacsi oo waaweyn oo halkaasi ay dad jaaliyadaha dibbadu ka hirgeliyeen. Mid ka mid ah mulkiilayaasha goobaha ganacsiga ayaa ugu baaqay in dhamaan jaaliyadaha dibaddu ay qeyb weyn ka qaataan horumarinta gobalka Gedo. Waxaa kale oo uu intaas daray in dhowaan niman ganacsato ah oo ay dhowaan dib u habeyn weyn ku sameyn doonaan garoonka diyaaradaha ee magaalo madaxda gobalka Gedo. Gudoomiyaha degmada T.Barwaaqo mudane Xasan Buraale (Xasan Hambo) oo u waramayey Gedonet ayaa sheegay in maaligelinta xoogeeda ay ku wajahan yihiin beeraha Muuska iyo kuwa cambaha oo dhowaan qaar ka mid ah jaaliyadaha dibaddu ay maalgeliyeen hirgeliyeen degaano ka tirsan degmadaas. Gudoomiye Xasan Hambo waxaa kale oo intaas ku daray in dhammaan jaaliyadaha dibbadu ay gacan weyn ka geystaan horumarka gobalka Gedo. Mudane Xasan Hambyo waxaa kale oo uu sheegay in sanad dugsiyeedkii dugsiga H/Dhexe ee degmadu uu si wanaagsan u socdo taasoo ay ku amaanay jaaliyada dibadda oo gacanta ka geystay dib u habeyntii dugsiga H/Dhexe ee degmada oo ahaa dugsiyadii ugu horeeyey ee laga dhiso gobalka Gedo oo ilaa iyo 1960s dhisnaa. Xamdi-Yare Gedonet
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Thanks for the reply. It is nice to know you are a student of Olol's School of Reply. Sky and Duke are as honest and in your face as they can get. Of all things, that is a thing to be respected.
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^^I found it interesting that you did not, even for a second, condemn Qaybdiid for the crimes he committed. Crimes, that although are seen as "unsubtantiated" in Swedish courts, are very well known to us! I have seen you call for Abdulahi Yusuf's arrest, though nothing is wrong with that, but you have not said a single thing about the crimes levelled against Qaybdiid. You have not even tried condemning him for those crimes, yet you want to present a cadaalad face?
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Sooner or later, we'll connect Eyl to Garoowe (insha Allah). Waa kaa sugeenaa. :cool:
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Gediid, the nomad above me is as Somaliland as you can get. Do not let the "Bari" nick fool you.
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Good development. When will the airport be done Sky?
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Cabdi qaybdiid waxaa uu Amar ku Bixiyay in Lagu Xidho Geed lana Toogto, Mid ka mid ah Dhalinyarii ayaa waxaa uu ku Qayliay (Mawaxaan u dhimanayaa Cida aan ka dhashay oo keliya ) Hadalka oo Qof kasta oo ka Daawadaa Cajalkan uu Argagaxayo. Alaah-Ubaahne waxaad u qaylinaysi baan garanayn, the man deserves to be tried under international court and given a befitting punishment.
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^^Glad to see you edited your post. It was uncalled for..
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Originally posted by Wordette: ^Chicken. Atleast thank the man for thinking of you. Ayoub needs no thanking from me, we been cyper buddies for a while. WELCOME BACK sxb, and this time don't go hypernating on us. :cool:
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MAYA waa bishii barakaysneed ee Ramadaan..! :cool:
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Somali man arrested in Sweden suspected of genocide Stockholm, Sweden October 17, 2005 AFP A 57-year-old Somali man was arrested in Sweden early on Monday suspected of genocide in Somalia, a country splintered by clan warfare since the early 1990s, justice officials said. "The man was arrested in [the southern Swedish city of] Lund and immediately transferred to Gothenburg," on the southwestern coast, a police spokesperson in Lund told Agence France Presse. "He is suspected of genocide," said Helene Carlsson, secretary to the international prosecutor in Sweden, Mats Saellstroem, who is handling the case, but neither his office nor police would disclose any more about it. A newspaper identified the man as a key aide to one of the Horn of Africa country's warlords who carved up Somalia and have left it without an established and functioning central government since 1991. The tabloid Aftonbladet, in its online edition, identified the suspect as Abdi Qeybdiid, the right-hand man to late warlord Mohammed Farrah Aidid, who was one of the most powerful in in the 1990s. The international prosecutor's office is conducting a preliminary investigation into the matter, and Qeybdiid was on Monday interrogated by a special Gothenburg police unit that deals with international cases, the paper said. Under a law passed in 1964, Swedish courts have so-called "universal jurisdiction" to try a person for genocide committed abroad. The maximum sentence is life in prison. The conflict in Somalia, where a new government is this year attempting to establish itself and restore order, has claimed thousands of lives. The warlords run factions of heavily armed militias. Genocide as such would be a difficult judicial charge to press, as opposed to crimes against humanity, since the conflict is among such factions. Somalis are one people who live in a clan-based society. "The international prosecutor now has to look at the case and see what to do, see whether to indict him. These kinds of cases are incredibly complicated," said Gothenburg police spokesperson Mats Glansberg. According to Aftonbladet, Qeybdiid was recently appointed police chief in Mogadishu and was in Sweden to attend an international conference in Lund. A refugee who fled Somalia's civil war in the 1990s and now works as a computer programmer in the Scandinavian country recognised Qeybdiid. He filed a police complaint where he claimed Qeybdiid led Aidid's militia. Police then decided to arrest him, Aftonbladet reported. Source: AFP, Oct. 17, 2005
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^^This is a new development sxb, kuwii horey have long been back.
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PS: Carabnimada qofkii rabo looma diidana. others don't see why it is important. It is not and if you really look around it is a non-issue, however, you cannot try to alter history and try whimsically to discredit a person's geneology simply because you want to conform it to fit your belief. By the way certain branches of the Eritreans also, surprisingly, have that "last" name. What do you think about that? Caamir- I know and that is why I highlighted it in my first reply to Macruuf.
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Caamir interesting info you provided there sxb. I have already mentioned Futax Al-Habesha in another thread between Macruuf and I, but appereantly sxbkeen is only looking for evidence that proofs otherwise. Why he is bent on that? We have already discussed it and it has everything to do with historical revision to suit today's injustices. Macruuf, one thing I just love is how you wish to tell us of what Igaal ment when he gave absaloutely no appearent reason for you to think of such. Another thing is the hostility. Nothing needs 100% approval in this world. Sheekada waaba soo gabo-gabeenayaa. Continue on your cyper revolution soldier! :cool:
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Sky there has been enough hadal. We don't need that anymore. We need to see developments, not analyzing the hypothetics. It is a complete waste of time.
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UN: Yusuf Inda Cade DRUG trade in Lower Shabele...
Gabbal replied to General Duke's topic in Politics
I cannot find a UN fact-finding report as dismissable. Indha-cade should be tried, convicted, then shot! Diinteena should not be a masquarade and a cover up. War waxa dhan oo Soomaaliya haysto waa nacalat. Abdulahi Yusuf waa nacalat, Caato waa nacalat, Hiiraale waa nacalat, Qanyare waa nacalat, Indha-cade waa nacalat. They are ALL nacalat and a curse onto the nation and people. :mad: LET SOMALIA BE FREE dammit! Acudi-bilaah soonki baaba iga jabay yaan umalayn. -
Horn, did you read this excerpt? It might enlighten you. See, I am not alone calling it "myth" and "fables" iyo wixii lamid ah. I am glad a notable figure uttered those words almost four decades ago. Macruuf, you obviously did not read your excerpt. The origin of the Somali people, like that of most other nations, is lost in the mists of history and has likewise become the subject of mythical fables and folklore . Association with the Pharoahs as the Land of Punt is one of these mythological fables that has received credit because of certain evidences found in the ancient pyramids of Egypt . The history of myrrh and frankincense shrouds Somalia with unrelated allusions in ancient history. However my own belief is that the Somali people derive their origin from the ancient empire of Adde whose capital was Adari, now known as Harar, and whose main port was Audal now called Zeilah. This empire flourished in the tenth and eleventh centuries A.D., and was part of the Arab expansion during the Khalifate Empire. It is my opinion that after the decline of that empire in the twelfth century those who stayed behind made their home in the Horn of Africa, in scattered settlements among the indigenous population. There was naturally a period of chaos when Islamic traditions disappeared and the whole country reverted to its former paganism, tribal strife, and the law of the jungle. This chaos lasted for a period of several decades. Across the Gulf of Aden, the rulers in Yemen were disturbed by the news of atrocities and the reversion to paganism which reached them from the country over which they had previously held suzerainty . At first they affected to ignore the situation, but eventually after a period of reorganization in their own country and the re-establishment of the Kingdom of the Imam, they decided to make another attempt at resuscitating Islamic traditions in the Horn of Africa. They decided to send over a group of eminent Sheikhs to settle at strategic points and to preach and bring the people back into the fold of Islam. So, in the earlier part of the thirteenth century, Islamic missionaries came back from Arabian Peninsula and re-established Islam and the rule of law. The task of these eminent Sheikhs was a tremendous one. Their main objective was to re-establish Islam and Islamic culture and to create a society that would last and develop within the traditions of the Islamic doctrine. So they took the easiest and most natural course. They chose and concentrated on that portion of the people with Arabic blood, the descendants of the people of the Adde Empire, who were living in scattered settlements, organized them politically, instructed them in the teaching of the Holy Koran and the Islamic tradition. The rest of the population were relegated to serfdom and assigned menial tasks. As the power of these people grew, they gradually expanded their suzerainty and pushed the other ethnic groups further west and south. These Sheikhs who came over from Arabia attained positions of great stature and influence in the country. Their spheres of influence were so strategically placed that the location of their tombs today gives a clear impression of plan and purpose. They settled at strategic points along the coast of the Horn of Africa. Each one concentrated on a particular settlement for which he became a patron saint and over which he exerted a great spiritual and secular influence. They adopted an indigenous form of teaching the Arabic alphabet in the Somali language, so that the Holy Koran could be read in Arabic despite the fact that the Somali could not understand its meaning. These Sheikhs, however, achieved great success in the organization of the society and in the propagation of Islamic doctrine. Unfortunately, over the years, the myths surrounding these eminent Sheikhs have so developed and have become so engraved in the minds of the people that they are regarded today as being the actual ancestors of the different tribal groupings of the Somali people; and whereas, in fact, these present-day tribes are only the continuation of the settlements which these Sheikhs organized and developed as political units. It is these myths and this firm belief in one common ancestor for each tribal group that has set the pattern of Somali politics in the modern age. Marxuum Igaal, alaha ha u naxariisto, was a nationalist leader and his revision of history might have something do with greater unification and binding of the Somali people. His attempt at discrediting, while also supporting, the historical fact of Arab progenitors proof that. He was neither a historian nor a anthropoligists, yet he writes as if he was one. His intentions were good and so was his heart, however, Somalis can unite without discrediting or altering history. One of the things he uttered was that Yemen held suzerainty over the Somalis. Heaven forbid! With all due respect, Yemen itself was under Abysinian soverignty. Somali pride at independence is something that has always been backed by historical overviews approved by historians and anthropoligists alike. Why? Because prior to our colonization (the most loose out of all the African nations in both the British north and Italian rest) the only such instance of Somalis being ruled by an outside force was the Omani Sultan of Zanzibar and his nominal control of over the city Mogadishu and the Benaadir Coast environs. Never have Somalis been under foreign control prior to the 1800's when the Turks, Egyptians, Europeans, and the Habesh (lapping after the Europeans) imposed their rule on different parts of our lands! Igaal continues by saying that the Yemenis chose the part of the people already having Arabic blood to make their task easier. He writes that to make their (the Yemenis) objective easier they organized the ones already with Arabic blood politically to possibly recieve faster results. We have only to ask who the "rest" of the population was that were pushed to the south and west under "serfdom". Does this not back the theory of Boranas/Oromos being pushed "southwards" and their remanents being "Somalized"? Igaal states that (1.) by the time those Yemenis came the people they came to were part of the kingdom of Adde (Adal?), (2.) the people they came to already had Arabic blood, and (3) the Yemenis who came then, and who we supposedly trace ancestry to, initialized an ingenious way of teaching the Qur'aan in af-Somali. I have already discussed the part of the people already having the Arabic blood so I want to talk about 2. The Kingdom of Adal was during the period of the Imaam Ahmed Gureey. These Yemenis that Igaal talks about must have came to the horn in the 16th-17th centuries and much after the progenitors of those people already having the Arabic blood and the ones you and I were talking about. That Igaal was trying so hard to unite the Somalis at the expense of history is one feasible conclusion. One fact that proofs that and dealing with number 3 is that it was Sheikh Al-Kowneyn who developed the ingenious method of Somalizing the reading of the Qur'aan. Alif la korday, Alif la hoosday, Alif laa godan... Our waqooyi brothers are probably familiar with him and it was the nick of one SOL political nomad, so they would tell you more about him. Sheikh Al-Kownayn is well known and if what Igaal uttered is true without a doubt, then it is him, Al-Kownayn that our geneology should end up with instead of the men before him that they do.
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It is unfortunate dalkeen in sidaan loo baa'basanayo. If all our trees are cut down, what will be the result? Complete desertification? Allaw dadkaan caqliga kusoo celi.
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Good bye to maturity!
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LOL Gediid, walahi taa qosol bay iga keentay. And there is no "dreaming", there is "aiming"..
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Mr. Horn, I see that your usual backup singers (The Pips) are about to appear on the stage. They are preparing for another echoing-performance. [big Grin] I mentioned the name of your "hero", before you know, they echoing your baseless criticism. How childish! Che and Rahima are backing me up because you had mentioned Barre Hiiraale? ( Watcha ya think Che? ). What does Hiiraale have ANYTHING to do with this? So let me guess; your whole political mentality revolves around "Reer Koreey" vs. (what?) "Reer Hoosey"? Comprehension is a must and key in Somali politics, alas! After a few more months, or maybe few more years, when your political undertanding of Somalia has expanded, I am sure you would have a good laugh at the level of ignorance you have displayed in this thread.
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UN: Yusuf Inda Cade DRUG trade in Lower Shabele...
Gabbal replied to General Duke's topic in Politics
Also it angers me when people dont reply to the topic. Rahima , Xoogsade and Juma all tried their best to divert from the theme of this thread which was Mr Inda Cade's alleged involvement in the drugs trade. War gabadha ka dabo har! Haven't you and Sky baited her enough :confused: -
Lander and I have known each other for a long time in the Politics Section. I merely commented, apologetically, on an inconsistency I noticed. You, though, should grace your [negative] presence on another individual. I am out, peace walaashiis.
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