Originally posted by Sky: Yoonis, let the Admin check out the IP-addresses. If we have the same IP-address, than they can kick us out. If not, Horn, his family and his soulmate wind.talker are out of here. Technology is so advanced that I.P address changers are common enough. I agree with you Sky. This one goes out to the Horn: Vous êtes un imbécile triste n'êtes pas vous? La seule chose je suis triste d'est vous ruinant notre forum. Nous n'avons pas besoin des pitreries enfantines, et vous êtes plein de lui. Tout le monde sait que vous avez des encoches multiples et êtes le Sky. Par la façon vous pouvez tromper des gens pour si long, et votre temps est en haut le copain. Somaliaonline a utilisé pour être le forum d'intellectuels, maintenant le cas triste peut venir et peut ruiner la qualité de l'endroit.

War meeshu waa ka kac, the SOL we knew is gone! ^Maintenant je vois que vous signifiez par les SURNOMS multiples. Vous êtes un de peu de gens qui il rend compte, laisse l'espoir que l'Administration fait.

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Yoonis you're not even worth a response kid. Go take a rest dude, SOL is a cyper forum, it should not be an outlet for a life.

^^Psychology is a powerful subject. So tell me, why have you become obsessed with that 70%?

^^Is this sky or Yoonis. W.Talker, You are going str8 to hell walle. LooooL. Horn Adna you will be right behind him

^ Ka qalee sxb, yarka waa iska daciif.

^^So you concur that it was the incoherency..

Originally posted by Yoonis: 2.7 million or 2,587,183 million or don't you actually care because they're close enough for you in numercal terms. However there is a small difference between 2.7 and 2.587,187 namely 112,813. Moqadisho has got a large population that's not what Iam disputing. I myself for example have got numerous family in Moqadisho. None of them is married or related to the people who control Moqadisho clanwise but they live there because of business relations and because it is more convenient to them to live in Moqadisho because the rest of the family lives only some 200km off Moqadisho compared to my clansmen who live some 1000kms away from Moqadisho. Moqadisho is home to many people because of its status as the capital of Somalia it draws all people from different clans into that city. My relatives tell me that they live comfortably although they also say that Moqadisho is one of the most dangerous city they have ever lived in. They say any mintue the situation can escalte and change from being very peaceful to being like a besieged town like Stalingrad or even Beirut in the 80's or Berlin in 1945. Children are not allowed to travel alone because they can be kidnapped even by close relatives. The city has profiteered greatly from the absence of any form of rule and law and the exemption of taxes. People tried in all sorts of things in Moqadisho from cannabis to photocopiers and washmachines and dishwashers. Although the restriction on the airports of Dayniile and Ael Ahmad have considerably reduced the goods that came oringally from Kenya. Moqadisho is safe for most somali clans and no-one will attack you because of your clan affiliation but rather of what you have. Everything must be protected from the thiefs and armed militias who intend is to cause mischief. So once again Moqadisho is still a place which draws hundred of thousand of Somalis to it whether for Business, Health or other issues. We can say therefore that Moqadisho is still worth of being the capital of Somalia but there is a twist which is that if you don't belong to the armed clans or you're not protected by your friends who belong to the armed clans then you're nothing and you can be subjected to inhumane and sometimes very tragic ritual mistreatment. Also there is no police and the people don't listen to the advice of their elders and therefore many crimes that are committed are not investigated and the perpertraitors are not brought to justice. Such analyzation! You speak from the first person point of view, so you much have been Xamar for the last year, preferebly in that last six months right? Or are you in your bouts of incoherency and self-rightousness again?

^^Hasn't anyone realized it yet? It matters not whether the Shariif goes to Kismaayo or Jowhar or Garoowe of all places. The dice is rolling and the game is set. Caato, Qanyare, Suudi do not acknowledge this government. The Sharif and the number of parliamentarians in Mogadishu were important at the outset as it had the benefit of landing credibility to which way. That is not needed anymore, because the legitimacy of the government is non-existent. All thanks to the blunders of the "president"; Caato, Qanyare, and Suudi do not need to hide their faces anymore. Ragu waa xor. It is why Boqqore's dessertion and the Sharif falling out of line with them are hardly topics of interest to them.

Undoubtedly one of the most useless and ignorant topics ever made in SOL politics for along while. Really? And somehow you were forced in here and made to post by an unknown force right..

Warlord; n.= A military commander exercising civil power in a region, whether in nominal allegiance to the national government or in defiance of it. In that regard, both Cabdiqasim and Riyaale have been or are warlords.

8. Cabdiqasim Salad Hassan--Arta 9. Gen. Cumar Xaaji Massale--SNF 10. Col Shaati Gaduud--RRA 11. Maxamed Dheere--USC 12. Hussein Caydiid--USC 13. Gen Morgan--SPM 14. Daahir Riyaale Kaahin--UDUB 15. Cusmaan Caato--USC

1. Gen Maxamed Faarax Caydiid--USC 2. Col Cabdulaahi Yusuf--SSDF 3. Cali Mahdi--USC 4. Muuse Sudi--USC 5. Col Barre Hiiraale--SNF 6. Maxamed Qanyare--USC 7. Maxamuud Sayid Aden--SNF

HornAfrique, you're a weak person. Accusing others of being one and the same person is a lame attempt of winning an argument without offering much of a fight. With your boring Gedo topics. 70% increase of property in Gedo, like who the F cares? Neverheless I was happy for you with that somewhat phantom figure pulled out of Gedonet's sleeve. I will for the upteenth time say this to you sxb. Sky daciif baa tahay. It is exactly because of this daciifnimo that your aliases cannot escape you. As for the Gedo part; sxb for someone that didn't care, I am more then surprised you remembered the exact figure of 70%. Tell me did you care or is your daciifnimo running rampant again? No wonder the other aliases cannot escape you. [ I will be forced to believe the rumours if my post or any other posts written by me are deleted for no obvious reason.] :mad:

He is not a member of this government. He was a parlimentarian, minister, and acting prime minister under the Carta government.

^^How surprising. The aliases to the rescue!

^^Sxb I had the pleasure to meet the man when, as an acting prime minister for Cabdiqasim, he visited Seattle to collect money for this endeavor that ultimately succeeded. He presented his case so well, that the shame he instilled in the people had some listeners throwing their whole checks in the box. He is a man to be recognized, but there are million others around the country. It is time we started recognizing people that deserve it instead of the bloodthirsty leeches terrorizing our nation.

^^You have said and alleged much worse. Or does this all go back to the thread that was deleted yesterday.. [Reply to Sky's post above me that was erased]

A letter From Toronto:Happy Eid For Abdi Guled Mohamed By Bashi Hosh It should be reminded to those who value positive contributions to Somalia that a great humanitarian work was undertaking by one man. His name is Abdi Guled Mohamed, a Member of Parliament in TFG, a former minister of Transportation and former Acting Prime Minister in Somalia under TNG, a senior Pilot and social activist. It deserves to be noticed that Abdi Guled, in post Mbagheti conference, had pioneered a project of peace in Gedo region. This great opportunity has helped a transformation of a region from anarchic “no-man's landâ€, into a viable administrative region run by council of elders. It was Abdi's idea of capacity building from the bottom up approach to conflict resolutions. His patience and perseverance of months of painstaking consultations with elders of Gedo have been very fruitful. I commend his initiative and must be endorsed by all of us. Gedo region is situated in South Western Somalia. It is a place that Somali's civil war has left in the hands of militia bosses competing for resources. This bitter clan warfare had left the destruction of properties and produced a large number of destitute refugees or better known as IDPs(internally Displaced People). According to the latest figure compiled by Global IDP project, a study sponsored by a Norwegian Refugee Council, Gedo is home to 151,400 IDPs. These are refugees who are homeless. They were left to fend themselves, as they crumbled with small huts in every city in the area. Worse, they are also at risk for depravation and armed robbery as they are too weak to defend themselves. Abdi's arrival in Gedo had given these people a hope. His dazzling and agile diplomacy were to raise the consciousness of the non-combatants. He also appealed to the armed militia to lay down their arms and join the progress force in Gedo. It was a remarkable approach that helped the creation of a council of elders in order to empower the local authority. With a minimum grant received from Canadian High Commission in Nairobi, Abdi did not hesitate to leave from Nairobi in a mission that would change the lives of the forgotten people. Upon his arrival in Gedo, he joined with the local NGO.s such as S.A.D.O and CANUOSOM Foundation in order to share with his ideas of peace building. Fortunately, in a few months time, these trios have laid the groundwork for sustainable peace effort in a region that was characterised by anarchy and lawlessness. Their cornerstone for peace building mechanism included the recruitment, participation and dialogue for local stakeholders such as the elders, youth, women and militia leaders in various districts. Abdi and his team offered a dialogue for solving conflicts. Their motto was to reclaim the region from armed militia and local warlords who fought inter-subclan divisions for control of resources and trade routes, and to give power and decision making back to the local authority composed of mainly cross section of a concerned citizens. Hence, this proactive approach to build a local authority has mitigated anarchy and thereby improved basic services in the area. It was a successful project that has attracted the western NGOs and UN agencies as it did in other parts of the country---in post conflict environment, Somaliland has succeeded for solving IDPs problem and Puntland is disbanding its last camps. However, that painful assignment in which Abdi had undertaken had also a price to be paid. Many of you mightn't know Abdi Guled, but he is a hero among us, a selfless individual. This man has been away from his family for a quite some time. His wife and children are living on the margins of the Canadian generosity and his children miss him dearly. He has given up a better paying jobs in Toronto in order to help and reach out those who need most. What brought him in Gedo is a compassion for his fellow countryman and indeed a humanitarian work that was needed urgently. He will probably miss his family for this Eid, the most important holiday for the Muslims, but rest assured that if Abdi chooses to stay in Gedo, he will be celebrating with smiling children, a children whose destinies are being shaped by him and his colleagues. It is no doubt that the development of this new positive images of the future may be critical for allowing regions to salvage a sense of motivation and purpose and to avoid a crisis of direction. Humanitarian work of this scale is certainly a prerequisite for promoting constructive social change. Also, a friendly reminder for those who see the Mogadishu warlords as icons, that Mogadishu is also home to 250, 000 IDPs , the highest in the country and whose placements have not been even discussed. To that end, wherever Abdi may be, I salute him for his heartfelt action for saying no to anarchy and lawlessness. I came to appreciate his brave endeavour for standing up for the poor and marginilized. I am also delighted to hear that his work has given a protection to the elderly, the women, the orphaned and the destitute children. A special thanks to the humble people of Gedo, particularly for those who love peace and who have given Abdi to their unwavering support and commitment. Many thanks to S.A.D.O and CANOUSOM FOUNDATION for collaborative efforts in order to realise a genuine and lasting peace. I have no doubt that Gedo region will have a viable and affective regional administration, a region that would be safe and secure, a region that would be more compassionate for the weak and displaced people. I wish Abdi and all Gedo resident for peace and happy holiday. Bashi Hosh Jibril E-Mail: bjibril@yahoo.com font> Bashi Hosh bjibril@yahoo.com The culmination of Mr. Cabdi Gulayd's effort

Sh.Xasan:xildhibaanada Ayagaa Laga Rabaa In ay Go'aan Qaataan Meel Walba Ha Joogaane, Haddana Iima Qorshaysna In Aan Maro Kismayo Muqdisho Ayaan Toos Ugu Socdaa Gudoomiyaha baarlamaanka Shariif Xasan Shiikh Aadan oo weli ku sugan magaalada Nairobi ayaa Gedonet la yeelatay waraysi dhinacyo badan taabanaya ayaa waxa uu uu u dhacay sida tan. Gedonet:Gudoomiye ku soo dhawoow Gedonet: Shariif Xasan:Mahadsanidin,waxaan idin leeyahay ciid wanaagsan. Gedonet:-Gudoomiye ugu horayn waxaan jeclaan lahayn in aad nooga war bixiso socdaalkii aad ku martay wadamo badan oo caalamkaa.? Shariif Xasan:Waxaan socdaalku maray wadamo badan waxana hadafkaygu ahaa arimaha dawlada iyo sidii ay u guulaysan lahayeen,waxaana filayaa in aad la socoteen in aan kulamo la yeeshay jaaliyadaha dibada ee somalida iyo qaar kamid ah masuuliyiinta wadamada aan tagay waxaana aad uga murugooday in inta badan jaaliyadaha ay wax iga waydiinayaan sababta dhalisay qilaafka dawlada iyo waxa loo xalin la'yahay taas oo aan in badan isku dayay in aan ka dhaadhiciyo sida runta ah ee ay wax u jiraan,waxaana filayaa in uu ahaa socdal aan ku soo guulaysanay,somalida wadamada aan tagnayna waa somali u xiso qabta in ay mar ku soo laabtaan dalkooda oo nabadda waxayna naga codsadeen in aan wax ka qabano howlaha dawlada iyo sidii ay ku hirgali lahayeen. Gedonet:-mudane gudoomiye waxaa waayadan sii xoogaysanaya qilaafka u dhexeeya labada dhinac ee dawlada arimhaas malagayaabaa in aad wax ka badasho maadaama aad lafdhabar u tahay dawlada, aadna muujinayso in aad marwalba wanaaga ka shaqynayso?. Shariif Xasan:kkkkkkkkkkk walahay mar walba waxaan ku howlanahay sidii wax loo hagaajin lahaa lakin waxaa muuqanay in ay jiraan dad wax qaldaya oo si kale wax ugu muuqanayaan,mar walbana xalka iyo wanaaga waan u taaganahay waana ka shaqynayaa. Gedonet:- gudoomiye waxaa jira xildhibaano iyo wasiiro wada dadaalo ay ku doonayaan in ay idinku dhex dhexaadiyaan qaarna waaba u istaageen hadana miro dhal ma muuqdaan arintaas maxaad ku diiday in aad taageerto?. Shariif Xasan:walaal aniga ma diidin dhex dhexedain waana soo dhawaynayaa qof walba oo wada dhex dhexaadin iyo waxa dan ugu jirto shacabka in aan wax walba oo dana u dhago nuglaanana waa waxa naloo doortay. Gedonet:- aan kuugu celiyo xildhibaano iyo wasiiro muqdisho ka waday wada hadal iyo dhex dhexaadin ayaa garabkaaga ku eedaynaya in ay diidanyihiin wada hadalka iyo dhex dhexaadinta?. Shariif Xasan:Qilaafku waa wax jira waana midka haatan idiin muuqanaya waxaan jecelahay in aan wax badan ka badalo arimaha marka aan somaliya ku laabano hadii aan caqabad naga xoogani na hor istaagin,xildhibaanada dowladana ayagaa xal laga rabaa ee mahan in ayaga la dhex dhexadiyo xiligan,xalka somaliyana waa mid gacmahooda ku jira xiligan. Gedonet:,dhawaan waxa ay wasaarada arimaha dibada ee kenya mamnuucday diyaaradaha keenya e ka daga garoomada muqdisho arinkaas wax hadal ah makal yeelatay keenya?. Shariif Xasan:Dowlada kenya waa dal aan saaxibo nahay waxana filayaa in arinkaasi uu yahay mid lagu dhaliyay balse waxbay kabadalysaa arinkii ay sheegtay waana la kulmay qaarkamid ah xubnaha ugu sareya dawlada. Gedonet:-maxaad ula jeedaa waa arin lagu dhaliyay? Shariif Xasan:Amaandaro aan jirin ayaa loo sheegay,waxaana filayaa in arinku sidiisii ku noqdo. Gedonet:- malagayaabaa in arinkaasi uu caqabad ku noqdo socdalkaaga Muqdisho? Shariif Xasan:Ma filayo,lakin waxaanu ka dagaynaa meel walba oo diyaaradi ka dagto dalka guduhiisa. Gedonet: gudoomiye waxaa jira warar sheegaya in aad socdaal ku tagi rabto magaalada Kismayo ee xarunta jubbada hoose arinkaasi majiraa/ Shariif Xasan:Hadda iima qorshaysna in aan maro kismayo Muqdisho ayaan toos ugu socdaa lakin hadii laga maarmi waayo kismayo waa magaalo aan si nabad ah ku tagi karno kana mid ah magaalooyinka ay maamulaan madaxda dawlada K.M.G.ah Gedonet: goormaad muqdisho ku laabanysaa? Shariif Xasan:Ilaa iyo talaado waan baxaynaa. Gedonet:-mahadsanid gudoomiye. Shariif Xasan:Gugdoomiyaha adinkaa mudan D Y S (DONNA) Gedonet: nairobi-kenya

Is that a pm? If yes, I think that is why it is called "private messaging", meaning it is with respect to private rights. Next time sxb, respect people's right and keep private messages where they are supposed to be, i.e. private. By the way, don't you get tired of this Abdulahi Yusuf debate? There is no way in this world you can excuse or dismiss what the man has done in Bari, Balanbale, Goldogob, and what he had in store for Bosaaso had the people not opened their gates and let him come in peace instead of destroying all they had workd to secure for the better part of decade. There is simply no way you can excuse it! Appreciate the truth when you see, adeer has already a position for himself in history that is not very complimentry. You are trying to re-write history before the ink has dried, not plausable.

So is it the Shariif that is coming to Kismaayo or Hiiraale traveling to Nairobi :confused:

So Hiiraale has not quit on his objective eeh?

Very organized way in trying to combat a difficult problem. I would urge all others to organize theirselves in such a way to efficiently combat drought and insecurity, among other things, in our land. Shir Ku Saabsan Abaaraha G/GEDO Oo Ka Dhacay B/Xaawo Waxaa maanta shir isgu yimid hayadaha samafalka ee ka shaqeeya gobalka Gedo iyo xildhibaanada dowladda federaalka ee ku sugan gobalka Gedo. Shirkaan oo ka dhacay xarunta hayadda Trocaire ee magaalada Beled Xaawo ayaa waxaa oo laaga hadlaayay abaarta ka jirta gobalka Gedo. Xildhibaanada ka soo qeyb galay shirkaas ayaa waxaa ka mid ahaa wasiir ku xigeenka garsoorka Yuusuf Maxamed Cabdiqadir (Kaanti),Xilibaan Xasan Deer, Nuur Mataan iyo Xuseen Cadaawe. Shirkaan ayaa waxaa looga hadlay heerka abaarta ka jirta gobalka GEDO gaar ahaan aaga Beled Xaawo iyo sida waxa laga qaban garo looguna gurman karo dadka ay abaartu aafaysey. Waxaa halakaas warbixin looga dhagaystay odayaalka dhaqanka iyagoo sheegay in abaartani ay tahay xaalad degdeg ah oo loo baahan yahay in marka hore biyo lala gaaro dadka iyo xoolaha dhamaanaya. Waxaa la sheegay in xaalada abaatu ay marayso heerkii igu xumaa iyadoo ay aad u dhamaanaya xoolaha nool oo noockasta isugu jira. Waxaa ugu naxdin badnayd oo meesha laga sheegay in degaanada u dhow B/Xaawo oo la yiraahdo Godondhawe ay xoolo tiradoodu gaareyso seddex boqol ay ku naf waayeen, qoyasas fara badana ay ka hayaameen loona baahan yahay gurmad deg deg ah in lala gaaro. Waxaa halkaas goob joog ka ahaa haydaha caalamiga ah oo kala ah NCA, CARE, UNOCHA, TROCAIRE iyo hayado kale oo ka mid yihiin ASEP ,SDA,IDF. Sanka Gedonet,B/Xaawo