^Idealogy "Somalilanders" have implanted and nurtered in us, hhm. War ninyahow dadka ha gafin. All the people that worked for the unity of our people were composed of all Somalis, including yours, and to abuse their legacy for today's purpose is a disgrace to their memory and the ideology they stood for. Those halyeys are way above both you and I. Marka maxaa adigu, shaqsigaada, meesha ku heesaa instead of accrediting other's accomplishments to your person in the name of clan? What have you achieved?

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: As for us going back to Bilaadul Punt , as matter O fact I am planning trip to go there some time in the next three years (haddaan la dhiman dee). The land of my forefathers it is. I am ashamed to haven never seen it. it is on the top of my to-go-list, not far bellow from Al-hamra ! Good on you then. Haramka is well taken care of, just make sure to get enough caano-geel while you're in the ancestral land. :cool:

Miskiin- I also remember your fingers slipping one time not in that distant, calling that warlord a "god-like" figure, which, if it is not downright blasphemous, would have been unheard in Soomaali politics. Ninyahow this is the third time you managed to have taken my quotes completely out of context, and I'm finding it rather irritating. With all due respect, the only response I can give to what you have pieced together is; Gedo is also occupied and the people who majority populate the Jubbada Hoose region (what we call Somali Galbeed folks) have no reason to be there as well following the stance you have displayed in this forum. Meel aan kaala doodaanbo garanayn. Xiin The reason for congratulating Miiskiin and the reason for his joining the thread are completely different. To him, your ilk might as well go back to the northeast as they have no reason to be there as well! And here you were with your "You have to have a matching numerical proportionality to satisfy your political ambitions saaxiib." Only I can hazard a guess as to who those people you had in mind are. To say again; to Miskiin, the ilk you are representing their interests in this forum and the one you seem to think I am representing are "Dal iyo Dasheed". To him, they are two sides of the same coin that have no reason for being there.

Originally posted by sheherazade: I thought they were flirting. Loool..!! Ilaahayow hana inkaarin.

^Do you know there is no such thing as a Cushitic race, ethnicity, culture, or homeland? It is a linguistic classification and one that is under extreme scrutiny as of late. The Cushitic hypothesis is not "history", but a theory borne as a result of linguistic (non)-affiliation.

^No, revealtions are for those with faith. Alaahu qaayatunaa, wa rasuulo qudwatunaa, wal qur'aanu tasturunaa, wal jihaadu sabiilunaa, wal mootu fii sabililaah. My mind won't ever be reusable. Better luck though! :cool:

I also compared the somalis and the eurpoeans, I found that the eurpoeans have better morals. Morals? You could have said anything, but morals? You generalized so ignorantly it's not even anything but irritating. Marka ninyahow (I dont care if you are Somali or not) noo goy oo meel iska fadhiiso.

^Well if that isn't a revealation.

^A tad bit too personal on your side, meaning as if it had a personal meaning to you. Oh well, iska daa.

Why would you have disappointed me? I just found your post a tad bit too personal. :cool:

Johnny, sxb, are you gay?

All that is available in the net. One search on Google can display, so what is the objective for this sudden infatuation with a history section may I ask?

Scuffles mar opening of Somaliland parliament HARGEYSA, 1 Dec 2005 (IRIN) - The official opening of the newly elected parliament in the self-declared republic of Somaliland on Tuesday was marred by student demonstrations and scuffles by members of parliament, witnesses said. Hundreds of secondary school students took to the streets in Hargeysa, Somaliland's capital, protesting the alleged killing by police of a student from Farah Omar Secondary School in the city on Monday night. They threw stones at the police, who responded by firing into the air to disperse the protesters. A number of students were arrested. Despite the disturbances, the newly elected MPs took their oath of office. Somaliland's President Dahir Rayalle Kahin chose Mohamed Abid Dheere, the oldest member from the ruling party, to chair the opening session. A skirmish broke out when the 48 members of the opposition objected to the temporary chairman's decision to adjourn the session after the opening ceremony. Armed policemen stormed parliament, turned off the microphones and ordered everyone to leave. A brawl ensued, with MPs hurling chairs at each other and at the police and exchanging blows. Policemen whipped reporters and barred them from taking pictures or TV footage of the drama. Some cameras were damaged. Two reporters were briefly detained, and police have been accused of confiscating some equipment. Opposition members met afterwards and elected Abdirahman Mohamed from the Justice and Welfare party as their speaker and Abdiaziz Samalle and Bashe Mohamed from Kulmiye (Solidarity) party as the first and second deputy speakers respectively. "The minimum number required in the house for the election of the speaker is 42. We (the opposition) were 48 and conducted the election legally. I welcome our colleagues from the ruling party to join in carrying out our business in parliament, and I will perform my duties according to the law," said the newly elected speaker. The temporary chairman of parliament, however, said no legitimate elections had been held. "There was no election. What happened today was null and void and illegal. The election of the speaker will be conducted on Saturday as I suggested," said Dheere. "I adjourned the election because the atmosphere today was not good. Students were rioting near the parliament. I believe the riots were planned by the opposition, and tension in Hargeysa was high," he claimed. Somaliland voters went to the polls on 29 September to elect the 82 members of the region's parliament. The territory in northwestern Somalia declared its unilateral independence from the rest of Somalia in May 1991, following the collapse of the administration of former President Siyad Barre. It has, however, not been internationally recognised as a sovereign state. [ENDS] Source: IRIN, Dec 01, 2005

Originally posted by Castro: So I questioned your intentions for questioning his intentions? Bravo Jaale, Bravo! *clapping" I knew you would reach that stage comrade, you are much too intelligent for a dope. Good on you for reaching that stage. but it has being bought to my attention from a few people (of many tribes,H, D and I [Wink] ) that Mr. Togane is just expressing the views of his sub-tribe, Indeed Rahima, indeed. The man is always speaking from his sub-clan's point of reference when addressing his "favorite" bashing group. Is it intentional? Sub-concious? I don't know, but his fruedian slips here and there are indeed visible to all those who read between the lines.

Je crois que la jeune dame a demandé la direction et il le fournit. A dévoyé ce pourrait être. Vous faites une injustice pire en permettrssant tel travestissement Believe me, I'm not depriving her of anything important. Both you and the other nomadess can do better then pick up on the blatant mis-information going on in this section. BTW etes-vous vraiment un novice? Honnêtement, votre français est très bon. Parlez-vous aucunes autres langues? By the way I am in the same boat as she is so I am advocating for my own gain here. Politically that is, right? If so, then there are is some valuable wisdom I can bestow on you. I will sum up the most important advice in three sentences as follows; 1. Never believe anything you read on this section. 2. Always wait for opposite and widespread responses before formulating opinion on a thread in this section. 3. Take everything you read in this section with a pinch of salt.

^^Loool..! Besides putting a sign infront of the wolve warning "DANGER, DANGER, SUBJECT TO LIES AND MIS-INFORMATION!" I couldn't think of any other way to say you're agreeing to a load of balooney. C'est dur, je sais.

Castro May be that's the problem, atheer. May be no one reads your posts. Castro, I know you're a newbie in these corners (no pun intended ), but in this section dadka si gooni-gooni ah bee isku yaqaanaan. Believe me, she happened to be one of the most read nomads around here before she decided the effor wasn't worth coming to this section anymore. Anyhow, you were being unfair to the sister by questioning her motive . If you had known Rahima as long as we have known her in the politics section, you would not question her intentions. She would have reserved her right to criticize Togane's "constructive" criticism simply because it's disrespectful and degrading. There is a fine line between criticism and degrading, and the fact that Togane happens to reserve the majority of his "criticism" for a single entity is a call to suspect. Considering the fact that his gibberish is being paraded around as texts from holy books would add insult to injury for any individual. Daacada waa wax loo baahanyahay.

Dude! Are you married by any chance?? i have two younger Sisters. They are all yours[Hadeeynan il kudilin] kix kix kix War ninyahow fikirkaas odayaashi na dalaa looga tagay. In this day and age you need to find your mate, not belonging. :cool: Thanx for the offer though. p.s. I only have one sister [who happens to call you brownie for some reason], and if I show any other opinion then the one I have displayed, I think my head would have been severed long ago.

^^Actually Togane is no different then any other partisan Soomaali kook engaging in tribal politik. Anyone who knows even a thing or two about Somali "politics" can tell you he speaks from his particular self-confessed sub-clan's point of view when writting about his "favorite" group to bash. U fiirso, then come back with what you have seen. Example

^Then you deserve to listen to him!

^Good day to you too sir.

What loot saaxiib :confused: Now it is ridiculous to engage you in a debate, simply because you seem to have chosen the parameters of the debate. Saaxiib, convince whomever you come across, but the situation is nothing like you have described! The way you are purposely setting up the frameworks of the debate highlight, atleast to me, your ignorance or even more honestly, your denial of the truth. I will repeat again, instead of engaging me in a cyper beautification of words and thoughts, come out and lay the situation in full force and full frontal display. Once you have passed your self-rightous high moral stand, come to me then and speak to me about the situation in an honest and candid voice. Otherwise, continue wallowing in selective facts and justices! I will tell this one last peice of information though. Barre Hiiraale is the man to have dug Gedo out of the ditch it had fallen in low-point of the civil war. Aspects of his militiamen were spilling blood to liberate areas ranging in length from Gaalkacyo to Kismaayo; yes Xiin, Kismaayo. Afterwards the man did not engage in the rampant warlordism that was taking ahold of every region in the former Somali Republic. He even sat down from the politics of Gedo and Cabudwaq, because he had no reason to engage in self glory and take advantage of the people. As a very respected and honored man, he could have risen to the top of his particular sub-clans's leadership chain, but he chose not to do so, because his conscious would not let him. That is a personal presence of heart he has continuously sighted. However, when he saw injuictice, it also spured him to action. Good Xiin where were you in that timespan of 1996-1998 when all Somalis opened their mouths in shock and surprise at what was taking place? Yesterdays co-liberators were became the day's victims in the same and very city they spilled blood to liberate! Morgan encouraged it for whatever reason beseiged him to do so (conspiracies are widespread you see), and to add insult to injury, he personally expelled in clear daylight any member of that particular sub-clan, even close relatives of his in-laws! Dishonesty, disgrace, and despicable are words that would come into any fair-minded person's brain when discussing this. As for Barre Hiiraale, he saw the situation for what it was, rose from his humble belongings and immidiately declared retaliation. Ragiisuuna soo watay, dalsankiina fadhiisay! Good Xiin, where were your bouts of self-rightousness in those days! Where was your cry of justice and you sense of fairness in those days! Or have you been relagated to making a legitimate point only by forgetting those days and of Morgan's rule to focus entirely on Barre's rule of the city? Especially a rule that is lauded for being the msot efficient and blemish-free in the last decade and a half. That will not do good Xiin, because history is not selective and impartial. Barre Hiiraale then effectively came to replace Morgan and all know the effect he has had on the city. You speak of loot, when no one has been evicted. You speak of self-conceived injustice, when Barre Hiiraale was lauded nationally for embracing elements of Morgan's former militias in the last war and for promising amnesty to all those who wanted to settle in the city. Barre Hiiraale could have declared his opposition to this infant government simply because of the man who heads it. He could have given the last blow to what seemed to be the most irrelevent and powerless transitional government built so far. He could have also ignored it all and pretend they were another government in another nation. He didn't, and it is because of that we still have hope sxb. If for anything, I posted this article to highlight that. As for the city you talked about; Kismaayo is like no other city in the republic. It cannot not be comparable to your "occupied" cities simply because it is not in the same league as them. The city is unique in it's civil war history and present situation, and there is no way you can compare it to early stolen loot in Mogadishu or occupation of the Shabellas. I repeat that to do so will only highlight your ignorance of the city or your eagerness to engage in selective history.

I once read somewhere that every 1 out 4 males is gay, and every 1 out of 3 females. Following that "scientific" statistic one would be forced to believe that there are alot of gay people in this world. :eek:

^Your story seems like a made up story. Why would your "friend" need to go to "Montreal" or "Boston", when "New York" is free and open for him? Make a point, but not in that insulting tone. Here you are lambasting Togane for his nonsensical insults (which I agree he should be lambasted for), but then in the next instant to engage in that sort of diatribe you have spewed and think of yourself as "rightous" is beyond belief hypocritical of you sxb.

Good Xiin, I certainly do not want to engage in another Kismaayo debate, chief of all because it isn't productive. The history is there, and it certainly cannot be rewritten today. You are focusing and delving the topic into a realm that doesn't hold any realistic weight. See the situation for what it is and for what it was, and then come back to me with a new approach. Your heart seems good, but your brain is most definitely being fickle and selective! Instead of engaging me in a cyper beautification of words and thoughts, come out and lay the situation in full force and full frontal display. Only then will our discussion of the city have some merit and, maybe, some understandings. However, comparing Indhacade's occupation of the Shabellas to Hiiraale's rule of Kismaayo is like comparing Somaliland's claim to Sool and Sanaag to that of Puntland. It is simply not feasible, so either come legitimately into the topic or continue mincing words. If you understand me, waa wax wacan. If not, then you simply do not deserve to start a Kismaayo debate! Waa inoo taa. Waryaa stop your baseless propaganda and be real . I encourage it, fully. P.S. Please address the article for what it talks about, not what you want to sideline it to.