Gudoomiyaha Gobalka GEDO Mudane Xuseen-Fareey Oo Ku Sugan Caasimada Gobalka GEDO Iyo Qeybo Ka Mid Ah Hay'adaha Samafalka Oo Maanta Soo Gaaray Isla Magaaladaas Dayuurad siday wakiilada qaybo ka mid ah hay'adaha caalamka ayaa maanta abaare 11:20 AM ka soo cagadhigatay gegida dayuuradaha ee degmada G/haarey xarunta G/GEDO. Hay'adahan oo ay si diiran garoon-ka dayuuradaha ugu soo dhaweeyeen boqollaal qof oo ka mid ah qaybaha kala duwan ee bulshada G/haarey ayaa waxaa ka mid ahaa UN-OCHA,WFP, UNCEF, ICF,WORLD VISION iyo ICF. Waxayna ujeedada hay'adahani tahay in ay muddo shan cisho ah socdaallo shaqo ku bixiyaan qaybao ka mid ah degmooyinka iyo deegaamada G/Gedo si ay mudadaasi daraasad ugu sameeyaan hab-nololeedka bulshada ku dhaqan G/Gedo ee dhinacyada nolosha, caafimaadka, waxbarashada, amniga iyo dhamaanba adeegyada bulshada ee asaasiga ah sida uu sheegay xariiriyaha UN-OCHA ee G/Gedo islamarkaasna hormuud ka ah hawl-gallada hay'adaha dunida ee gudaha G/Gedo Dr. Xasan Faarax Shirwac. Gudoomiyaha degmada G/haarey Gaarane Nuure oo xafiiskiisa ku qaabilay waftiga hay'adaha ayaa warbixin kooban ka bixiyay hannaan-ka nabadeed ee ka taabagalay degmada G/haarey iyo qaybaha kale ee gobalka waxuna gudoomiyuhu ku nuux-nuuxsaday in markii la eego wadiiqooyinkii loo qaaday nabadeynta gobalka aan iminka laga rajo qabin xasilooni darro dib uga soo cusboonaato gudaha gobalka. Dhanka kalena waxaa xalay goor dambe soo gaaray degmada G/haarey gudoomiyaha G/Gedo Xuseen Sh.Cabdi Ismaaciil (Xuseen-fareey). Mudane Xuseen Fareey ayaa waxaa safarkiisa ku weheliya masuuliyiin sar sare oo uu ka mid yahay taliyaha ciidamada booliska ee G/Gedo Col.Yuusuf Dhuumaal. Mr.Xuseen Fareey oo maanta hadal kooban ka soo jeediyay munaasabadii lagu soo dhaweynayay hay'adaha caalamka ayaa tibaaxay sida uu ugu faraxsanyahay in uu shacabka G/haarey kala qayb qaato munaasabadaasi muhiimka ah isaga oo intaa ku daray in uu dardar galinayo hawlaha waxqabad ee maamulkiisa, waxuna gudoomiyuhu sheegay in laga billaabo 09/12/05 lagu tillaabo qaadayo dib-uhabaynta iyo qaramaynta malaysiyaadka hubaysan ee ku sugan daafaha gobalka si ay uga qayb qaataan hawlaha lagu hormarinayo amniga gobalka. Axmed Gaaruf Gedonet, east africa.

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War dadku muran badanaa! Instead of arguing about the ability of this endeavor taking place, why don't you send whatever donation could afford? Less talk, more action should be the motto here.

It's like killing two birds in one stone. Dude, when something isn't a luxury anymore, it is downright torture. Those must be very depressed kids I say!

Originally posted by Brown McPharax: Kenya AND Somalia . Literacy: definition: age 15 and over can read and write total population: 85.1% male: 90.6% female: 79.7% (2003 est Vs Literacy: definition: age 15 and over can read and write total population: 37.8% male: 49.7% female: 25.8% (2001 est.) Waarye Brownie, so you saying statistical estimates about Kenya itself proofs the incoherency of the dude who started this thread? LOL! Then I would like to take this opportunity to let it be known that Somali-Americans are better looking, smarter, have better geno-codes, and better tempered then their sijui Somali-Kenyan brethern who are in turn more beautiful, smarter, confident, and have better geno-codes then their nomadic Somali brethern in Somali Republic. :rolleyes: Dude! Get real! Ninka baq-baqdiisa meesha hakala tago.

Many Somalilanders put their faith in international recognition as a remedy against all their ills. But that's a pipedream, says Ms Omar: "I think it's a complete fantasy and also a weapon the government is using to stifle debate. Everybody is told that you can't talk about this because you will embarrass Somaliland and we won't get recognised. Who can doubt the legitimacy of this Rakiya's words?

^ 24. Oil and Gas: Your Car Needs Both What say you Wordette?

^I still don't understand where the cheap shots and hostility came from :confused:

A worthy undertaking.

^ :confused: Sxb, with all utmost due respect, meel baad ka bugtaa e, bal ii sheeg meeshee tahay :confused: Cadifadaa wadid ood waday sxbow meel baad kasoo hardamaysaa e bal inoo cadee meeshay tahay :confused: Though, "sxb", you have gottan me to the point that I say I do not give a crap about what else you write on this matter or what else you write about my person, I'll say this one last thing. One time [and this has nothing to do with this topic] you wrote that the suuqa Ceelgaab located in Columbus was named after a tuulo in Galgaduud or somewhere else, not after the famous Ceelgaab of Xamar. Am I wrong on this? Perhaps the other Ceelgaab right here in Koronto is named after that tuulo, I guess. Completely out of context, but what is new? I will reiterate this one last time; the same famous Ceel-Gaab in Xamar that you say the Columbus and Toronto namesakes go back to itself goes back that "tuulo" in Kililka 5naad. Isn't that the end of the story about which goes back to which? What was so tribalistic about my saying that? Have you ever thought you might be the tribalistic one for assuming so? :confused: Ninyahow I don't know meeshaad kasoo hardamaysid, laakiin as far as I am concerned, I dont give a rat's *** . The fact that you are going around and digging archives shows you have some pitiful unknown axe to grind, and as far I am concerned, save it because I don't give a crap. Now leave me in peace.

Ducaqaba, atheer hadalkaadu haduu dhab kaa ahaa, waa aqoonsanahay inaad ducaysantahay. Laakiinse, maah-maah horay u dhignayn laakin la alifay waxa weeye "af-dahab ah, in la eeguu u qurxanyahay KALI".

^All I know is tribal names aren't allowed and I don't think you should carry it. Xiin- Good day sxb.

Layzie Girl ma nooshahay?

^^I could have sworn tribal names were not allowed here. :rolleyes: I know you don’t support the likes of Barre and other Haaraam gatherers in the south. Xiinow, maah-maah fiican oo aad iyo aad kugu haboon baan ku hayaa, laakiin uma malaynahayo inay noqonayso "appropriate". As such your insignificant "jibes" shall go unaccorded.

^Continue on sxb, continue on.

^Xoogsade, by far, you are the least suited for the politics section. I say that because you never have noticable stance. I consider Rahima to be the least tribalistic individual that posts regularly on this section, but by god the woman has principles and she stands for them proud and tall. You on the other hand are completely different and if you would like my opinion as to why, then you are free to give me a pm and I will express my opinion on the matter in private. p.s. You are free to give your opinion on this matter, the Mogadishu matter, the government matter, and all others. In fact, I encourage you wholeheartedly.

Originally posted by Xoogsade: [Q] Best sentence in this thread: Kashanre, give up the loot lol. [/Q] How intriguing. I found it extremely interesting how you bolded this at a time Xiin asked you a certain question. Ninyahow if you have principles stand up for them, otherwise continue on being an apologist and finding outlets to give you an excuse.

Rahima ragaan u goy.

^Possible more then you could have? Yeniceri- You brought a valid and legitimate point about a socio-politico problem that seems to hold us captive, but first I want to respond to your last question. Barre Hiiraale literally sat out the SNF vs. Al Itihad war in 1996 that gripped Gedo in an unprecedented civil strife. In a personal testimony, he gave reason for his inaction because he had no wish to slay the blood of his people nor go against God and support Ethiopian incursions in Somalia. When I said "freed", I use it in context with early civil war history that put Gedo in the national scene for massacre of the population and desecration of the land. More then anyone else Col Barre Hiiraale is credited with turning the tides of war and repulsing the late Gen Caydiid (alaha yarxama) and his USC/allied groups' malicious intent on "wiping out" reer Gedo. After the brief occupation of Gedo by Gen Caydid and Col Shabelle (allaha ha u naxariisto labaduba), Barre Hiiraale literally stormed the region while SNF was getting ready for a major counter-attack. He used himself and his company as merceneries willing to sacrifice their lives in the intent of inflicting as much harm without a thought to their safety. He was facing overwhelming odds and knew he was facing a casualty rate that would be unimaginable, yet he was willing to sacrifice himself so the SNF would have an easier time in coming in and freeing his people. To give you an example of how much daring and courage this man had; it was his bullet that pierced Col Shabelle's body though his small company and his person were facing the collective forces of Gen Caydid, Col Shabelle, USC, RRA forces, etc. Muuse Suudi and Xaabsade hardly compare to what this man has done for his people nor do they command as overwhelming respect and honor for a heroic endeavor.Muuse Suudi is holding his people hostage and profiting off of their misfortune and from Miskiin's reaction, one would gather so does Xaabsade. However, it would prepostrous to say the same of Barre Hiiraale. To go back to Kismaayo, like another nomad said, the man did not wake up one day and decide to invade the city. As soon as he heard the plight of a section of Kismaayo's inhabitants, the man was swifter then the wind in getting to action and righting a wrong. Just look at what has been going on Kismaayo and is being concluded. The man is trying to right another wrong for goodnessake. Can you seriously compare him to Morgan, Muuse Suudi, and their ilk?

In this Forum, some nomads believe that Cabdullahi Yusuf is not a warlord. Conversely, others attest as factual that Max'd Qanyare and Muuse Suudi don't own roadblocks in Muqdisho. Yet, another set of nomads will defend Barre Hiiraale at all costs, even argue that he's an honorable man. Yeniceri, it is quite easy to lump people together whether it may serve our purpose or because of human weakness, i.e. the deadly laziness. Let us go back to my quote to do justice to the context in which I used honoured with Barre Hiiraale: Afterwards the man did not engage in the rampant warlordism that was taking ahold of every region in the former Somali Republic. He even sat down from the politics of Gedo and Cabudwaq, because he had no reason to engage in self glory and take advantage of the people. As a very respected and honored man , he could have risen to the top of his particular sub-clan 's leadership chain, but he chose not to do so, because his conscious would not let him. The man freed Gedo from the clutches of tyranny. As a result, he came to be respected and honoured by his particular social group. He was respected and honoured because of that. As you can read for yourself, the context in which I used the quote that has been misrepresented is that Barre was free to rise to the top of his particular social groups political echelon because of his early record in the civil war. He had the respect and honor of everyone who was indepted to him (read: the whole region of Gedo and where ever his particular social group resided), but he chose not to do so. It had nothing to do with how it was translated as. Hence the reason for my irritation when another nomad indiscriminately mis-used that quote. To comment a tad bit about the related news you posted; this news isn't really shocking. This very Col Cabdi Cigaal is much more closer to me then I care to admit (much closer to me then Barre ever can you see) and was a former prisoner of war in the last Morgan-initiated attack on Kismaayo. However, his arrest is supported and approved by all. There is an administration in the city; to publicly stand in the way of the administration in a hostile way is to incite lawlessness and anarchy. That cannot be, and it is why Barre ordered his arrest, although they are (read; were) very close. An apology should suffice because Col Cabdi Cigaal is wrong, but, if not, then Barre needs to deal with the situation efficiently otherwise lawlessness will ensue and civil strife would be rekindled. That is a horror to imagine and should not be allowed to procede.

^^If it makes you feel any better, then by all means adaa sameeyay adaana dhabarka ka jabiyay. Really! Dadku daciifsanaa.

^I'm not crying, and infact I am trying to stop you from shedding the crocodile tears. Ninyahow waxaad maalinkasto la timaadid is redundant to say the least, and frankly doesn't bring out pity anymore. The sympathy is clearly being over-used.

^Good day to you too, sir. p.s. In the future, I would hope you refrain from taking my quotes completely out context in the hopes of scoring a point or two. It seems as though my earlier request was deliberately ignored.

I hate to partake such debate but I also hate to let fictitious info pass as facts. I don’t know if you’re aware of what you just wrote, or if you just believe the crap coming out of your mouth. Barre Hiraale is indeed a warlord and has invaded the city. Tell me how in the world a warlord invades a peaceful town and not carry out some of the things you’ve mentioned . That’s just impossible unless the angles helped him out or is it that you see him and his militia as such. Would you refute his perceived title as warlord? No? I believe I have said it before and I’ll again, Barre and Morgan are on the same token regardless of their tribe, just like the rest. No matter how they change or what they do next, they’re still criminals and deserve for what they inflicted on us. I hope we’re in agreement so far. Read what you have written expertly and come back to me. Ninyahow indha-adeegaada serves no bounds! The topic has purposely been diverged from where you brought it now, by no less then Xiin, because he understood the implications of debating about the merits of Hiiraale and Ahmed Warsame attacking the city in the first place! You are willing to face the devil in the face, whether on purpose or not, I applaud you for taking that great leap to dispelling the haze surrounding the reason Hiiraale came to control the city. Did my eyes decieve me, or did I read you write Hiiraale, then a "warlord", invaded a peaceful town? What warlord? Whose peace? The ones who were forcefully made homeless with their clothes and what belongings they could muster strewn around them at the gates of the city or the ones who sat down in the just vacated warm living rooms and ate the just vacated intact hot meals? Do you seriously intend on writting in this forum, at the mercy of the majority of nomad's ignorance surrounding the situation, to discuss with me the legitimacy of the act that expelled Morgan from the city? Ninyahow indha-adeegaada has no bounds! There is more I want to say, but waa inaan hubsado whether your meaning came out as the way you intended or whether it was an honest slip of the finger. For the benefit of fairness, I will let you verify if what you had ment was exactly as it had come out. Marka waan sugi ilaa aan hubsado indha-adeega inay gaf ahayd ama inay daacad kaa ahayd.

I hate qabyaalad. Do not make it qabyaalad issue, and do not misintepret me for your own favourism, widaay. Sxb I do not want engage in a childish bouts of "he said, she said" ee as you have said, we had talked before, and in no explicit terms have you implied all areas in the south are occupied. You have also hinted that your translation of the "south" ment anything below the Galgadud border. Gedo is occupied, Baardheere is occupied, Kismaayo is occupied, Dhoobley is occupied, Af-madaw is occupied. You have hinted that in our personal discussions, and it is because of respect that I am not delving into those hints more unambiguously. Barre Hiiraale's shaqsi was brought to Kismaayo for the same reason your shaqsi is in this debate. Whether he is from Galgadud or Kilika 5naad, he came to Kismaayo for the same reason you are defending the region today; materialized or percieved defense of his people. Whether your shaqsi is from Xudur or Muqdisho naught matters, as you are here in this debate defending the land because of the demographic makeup of some of the inhabitants. You have also asked me to name areas where Barre Hiiraale's family (as you said read clan) have originally inhabited in Jubbaland apart from Gedo. I respond with Jamaame, Jilib, Libooy, Bu'aale, Dhoobley, af-Madoow, and especially Kismaayo all had sizable concentrations of Hiiraale's "family". Before the civil war, the deegaan of Jamaame itself was majority "reer Gedo" adna wax kalaa ka hadlaysaa! Good Miskiin, there are sub-clans within Hiiraale's "family" that only live in Jubooyinka, apart from Gedo. Marka take this as an eye opener to the truth. You speak of expulsion, and I ask what expulsion? Hadal bilaa macno daro ah, shir lalama soo tagee, what expulsion? Has Barre Hiiraale uprooted people from their lands? Has he kicked them of their houses? Has he fought any other people except for Morgan? Does he conscript people forcefully into his militias? Does he steal people's harvests? What? I'm curious as what proof you have to back your allegations. When Barre Hiiraale left for Barawa and onto Mogadishu recently, do you know who was presided over Kismaayo and the regions? It was non other then Minister Tarax whose constituency is located in Af-madow, Bu'aale. Is that not a show of confidence and endorsement from the people whose land is majority in the Jubbada Hoose? When Barre Hiiraale asked the people of the regions to support his quest to reconcile the divided factions of the government, was not Jilib especially that exploded in bouts of celebrations to support him? When two important groups in the regions went to war in Janaal Cabdille, did they not request Barre Hiiraale to judge between them? Was it not in Handaraaf that Sultan Sokor, Col Cabdimahdi representing the majority of the inhabitants of their deegaan express satisfaction in Barre Hiiraale's rule of the regions and swear allegiance? Marka ninyahow la iskama hadlo, daacada waa wax loo baahanyahy. All those events can also be proven if but asked to verify. As for Jubbaland; it was a separate colony that grouped together what is today Gedo, Jubbada Hoose, and Jubbada Dhexe and future autonomous state as recognized and approved by even this government. Never has an official census been taken so I have no idea how you can say "dadka majority ahaan u dago". That is opinion and in this day and age, fact matters not opinion! How does having one degmo make a demographic group a "majority" as opposed to ones that have six degmos and more? It doesn't and is even the opposite, right? Marka ninyahow Jubbaland is a state and a recognized one at that, so infact the future will tell the percentages of the demographic makeup of the area. Markaas aan sugno.Opinion doesn't hold sway in this time in juncture.