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she would not have had a criminal and imorral baby. and yes there are somali criminals but they are not like the criminal that woman gave birth to. Are you encorageing somali women to marry nonsomali and have a baby like that women? Do you want them to have criminal and immoral children? Now I have to say WTF? :confused: How is the kid a criminal? What was wrong with the kid? How is the kid criminal and immoral? How in the hell can you be so hateful when all you have read is an excerpt of their lives that I managed to glimpse? What from that excerpt led you to feel anything but sorrow and pity for the innocent kid and the disgraceful conduct of his supposed mother :confused: No matter how much personal this kind of topic might be for you, don't ever cross the line in that despicable manner. Acudi bilaah.
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Clanism and Tribalism in the notion of Somaliland and Puntland!
Gabbal replied to Alle-ubaahne's topic in Politics
Originally posted by Alle-ubaahne: Caamir iyo Aqyaarta kale ee sida hufan uga qeyb galay doodan runtii waad ku mahadsan tihiin. Dareenka aan qabaa aniga wuxuu yahay maadaama aad qirteen in maamul kusheegyadaas aysan wax isbadal ah ku dhalin karin umada soomaaliyeed, dibudhac mooyee, maxay tahay qadiyada aan uga bixi karnaa hadii la doonayo in lasoo afjaro mixnada iyo aafada uu qabiilku xambaarsan yahay? Shacabka soomaaliyeed xaq ma u leeyihiin ineey helaan damaanad looga kaaftoomayo amniga iyo qaaraanka uu qabiilku ku boqno gooyo dadkiisa? Ninyahow you're a double-edged sword { } ee u daa dadka maamulka iyo kala-dambeeyntee dhisteen. It's called law and order; something the rest of Somalia needs to catch up on. Qabiil ma xumee, sida loo isticmaalaa xun. Cidahaasne siday u isticmaaleen is called "constructive" use of qabiil. They have managed to achieve peace and a certain level of prosperity, and only a xaasid stands infront of that. -
Originally posted by Castro: Waryaa Kashnare, unless you know information other than you disclosed here, your inference is far-fetched. Extrapolating regret of a marriage and hatred of a son from a check-out lane incident is too much saaxib. Tweak that anecdote and try again. Dude! Sxb it wasn't necessarily hate she felt towards her prodigy, as much as regret. Clearly she despised leaving the fold in the first place, and despised the price she had to pay, i.e the living result. No "loving" mother calls her son "jareer" in such a derogatory and hurtful manner for fun sxb. Especially consider her son was the result of her and an African-American man. That was just wrong sxb and no matter how much pained she was as a single mother (if she wasnt already re-married by then), her words and tone of voice spoke volumes. End of story.
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^Comrade, you're putting too much emphasis on the words themselves and what you can assume from logic. The tone in which that woman adressed her son spoke for its own self sxb. The woman clearly despised the physical turnout of her son and she regretted her earlier action and its product (the son). Marka you weren't there while the event was taking place, but do try to understand that not alot of things in this world make sense nor are they logical. Xoog, sxb I know where you're coming from.
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Somali women are beautiful because of somali men [Wink] Without the somali male seed, she wouldn't look what she looks like would she? And all the americans I work with come to me asking for few somali words to impress the somali girls because as they tell me, they are enthralled by the looks. Xoogsade it's amazing you said that sxb. Your sentence there transported me back months ago to a situation in my local Safeway. A very attractive middle-aged Somali woman was infront of me checking out her groceries at the counter when a very young (about 6 to 7 year old) African American kid bumbed into her sxb. She got an annoyed look on her face and maliciously said "jareeryahow maxaad markasto u ciyaareesaa". What I had thought was an African America child said "sorry hooyo, sorry". She responded by saying "sorrigaada ma aqaan ee halkas istaag, kii xumaa waxa ii geeyaan garanayne (appearently his father, her ex-husband). Walaahi, ilaahay baa ii jeedee, naxdin baan u dhintay. I have never been so shocked and speechless in my life! She regretted her earlier action (marriage to the African American) so much that she came to despise her own son and his physical appearence to that degree. I haven't seen them again, but everytime I see these kinds of topics it's like a time warp traveling me back. Naxdin walaahi.
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Somalia wait for me! :cool:
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^You making quite a ruckus fair lady. But then again, should it surprise me?
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Horn of Africa 'crisis', UN warns The head of United Nations peacekeepers has warned of a "crisis" in the Horn of Africa, as UN troops started to leave Eritrea after being ordered out. Almost 90 western troops are leaving Eritrea. Jean-Marie Guehenno said he had never experienced a similar situation in 10 years in the job. He has been in Eritrea since Monday in a bid to solve the problems but was not able to meet President Isaias Afewerki. Ethiopia and Eritrea have both moved troops towards their border recently. "We are at a critical time. Never has there been such a great crisis for the mission," Mr Guehenno said. Two plane-loads of UN peacekeepers have arrived in Ethiopia after leaving Eritrea, with another on the way, AFP news agency reports. On Wednesday, the UN Security Council decided to evacuate US, Canadian and European staff serving in the mission. Some 180 personnel are to be moved to neighbouring Ethiopia. Most of the UN peacekeepers monitoring the border following a war between the two countries that ended in 2000 are from Asian and African countries and these will stay. 'Sign of frustration' AFP reports that one of the women on the bus for the airport in Asmara was in tears. The UN Security Council members said in a unanimously agreed statement, they had decided to move the staff out of Eritrea temporarily in the interest of their safety and security. The members strongly condemned what Eritrea's "unacceptable" actions and restrictions on the peacekeeping mission and warned it could have implications for the operation's future. Diplomats said the move did not mean they were caving in to Eritrea, which last week ordered the Canadian, American and European staff members to leave the country. Eritrea's demand is widely seen as a sign of frustration that little has been done by the international community to force Ethiopia to leave the border town of Badme. This was given to Eritrea by the Boundary Commission, set up under a peace agreement between the two countries. The Security Council also emphasised the need for progress in implementing this Boundary Commission's decision. US ambassador to the UN John Bolton said Eritrea was acting unacceptably but that they also needed to focus on Ethiopia's lack of compliance.
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Horn...In the mind of every Somali USC is synonmous with certain Qabiil just like SSDF and SNM are indentified with certain Qabiils.Addressing USC usually means addressing dat particular Qabiil. In my mind, USC denotes a jabhad; a rebel group in the same rank as all the others. The poster, for whatever his intentions were, addressed the USC and I chose to equate it with the jabhad. My thinking would have been warped had I equated with a whole quarter of the Somali people, so I didn't, because it doesn't represent them. Ma fahantay? Anyways farahayga meeshaan waa kala dhaqday.
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Juma, with all honesty, I can understand where you are coming from but once you flirt with dirt, you get dirty! The USC was a rebel group, a jabhad, in the likes of SNM, SSDF, SNF, RRA, etc. In the writings of the nomad you quoted, he clearly addressed USC as a jabhad. Were the USC animals hell-bent on destroying all and everything opposed to them? Hell yes! So were the SNF! So was SPM! They all were, and there is no hiding from it. However, what you wrote in reply to the nomad cannot be accepted by any Somali, any Muslim, any human being. It made an affrontery of Somali values, Muslim principles, and an attack against humanity itself! You went way below the belt in how you responded and no amount of anger or retribution can be an excuse for such views. You reached heights that are above just normal anger. I will not repeat your words as they are not appropriate nor acceptable, but meeshaad gartay waad ogtahay. Marka sxb, call a spade a spade and admit you were wrong. Only then can we address the greater problems plauging this part of the forum.
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^Sxb I do believe the USC set out to rid the country of the Siyaad regime, in that endavor they did succeed, did they not? USC, SSDF, SNF, SNM, and their likes are long gone. The sooner we realize that, the better.
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^Ninyahow halkee isku kayn dambeesay?
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Originally posted by Hitlerette: how many people here think that blue eyed baby is the ideal thing - cajiib - i was always a suker for deep brown eyes - it is my dream to experiment with brazillian guys - "it is merely a dream folks - no need to get ideas" - Deep brown eyes eeh? Hitlerette...
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..and thou shalt strike deep! Juma with all honesty ma daacad bay kaa ahayd waxaas :confused: [ December 14, 2005, 00:34: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]
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Time runs out for US ex-gangster On Tuesday the co-founder of the Crips, one of the world's biggest and deadliest gangs, is due to be executed for the murder of four people. BBC News website reporter Chris Summers visited Stanley "Tookie" Williams on Death Row in 2003. "You see that light there on the roof? That light goes on to signal an execution has taken place." Writer Barbara Becnel pointed out the simple red light on top of San Quentin prison overlooking San Francisco Bay as she escorted me on a visit to Stanley "Tookie" Williams, who she befriended a decade earlier. It was the summer of 2003 and few people outside of California had heard of Tookie, or the transformation he had made from scowling, musclebound leader of Los Angeles' notorious Crips gang to articulate and thoughtful peacemaker. Two years on his fate is a major talking point in the United States, sparking debate about the nature of redemption. Williams' supporters include rapper Snoop Dogg - himself a former Crip - actors Jamie Foxx and Susan Sarandon and human rights campaigners Rev Jesse Jackson and Bianca Jagger. Many of the victims' relatives say he has failed to apologise for the murders, which Williams denies. The decision rests with Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, who has said he is agonising about whether to grant clemency. Caged On my visit to Williams, with Ms Becnel, we were locked into a cage, about eight feet square, and when the prisoner arrived he was led into the cage and then had his shackles removed from the other side of the bars. It was a boiling hot day and Williams sweated profusely through his thin cotton uniform as he greeted us and ate the food we had brought him. Quietly spoken, his speech was sprinkled with evidence of his self-taught vocabulary. "I spend my time praying, exercising, reading books and studying the dictionary," he explained. Williams and Ms Becnel teamed up in the mid-1990s to produce a number of books designed to educate children to avoid gangs like the Crips and the Bloods. "I use my life as an analogy to show them that this is not the path to follow. I care. The majority who are dying [on the streets] are black kids," he told me. But he said he felt the authorities would never forgive him for his past as co-founder of the Crips. "My gangbanging days have been over for over a decade but I'm always going to be their Al Capone. "They have kept me fossilised in the amber of a gang past. They thought of me as irredeemable and they thought I wouldn't change." The stepmother of one of his victims, Albert Owens, said recently: "I believe in redemption but I do not believe Williams has been redeemed. I believe he is using it for his own manipulation." Williams and his supporters have always maintained that he was innocent of the crimes of which he was convicted. In 2003 he told me: "People say I have not apologised to the families of the victims. Why should I apologise to people when I didn't do it? That is an oxymoron." In recent weeks his lawyers have appealed to Governor Schwarzenegger. In their petition for mercy they wrote: "This is about redemption, rehabilitation and hope. It is about a single man, a prisoner for a quarter century, who found purpose while facing death by execution." Governor Schwarzenegger has until midnight (0800 GMT Tuesday) to make his decision.
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^Sxb whatever the woman chose in her life is between her and the lord (swt). I do not believe it is in your position to judge people, and as a god-fearing person, you should be aware of the sovereignty of Allah (swt) and his right to judge. In this dunya, she chose a respectable field, because as a human rights activist she will surely get points for doing what she can to help the disadvantaged! As for the recently highlighted piece; cultural differences do exist amongst Somali people in general whether or nor they were colonized by Britain or Italy. Sure it is within our right to say they are minuscule compared to other natons or not as divisive, but they do exist and rather we should embrace the differences instead of hushing them up.
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Isbaheysiga Dooxada Jubba Oo Maalgelinaya Maamulka Cusub Ee Gobalka GEDO Wararka imaanaya magaalada Kismaayo oo xarun u ah isbaheysiga dooxada jubba ayaa sheegaya in maamulka sare ee isbaheysigaas ay maalgelin doonaan maamulka cusub ee gobalka GEDO oo madaxda ka yahay Mudane Xussen Sh.Cabdi Ismaaciil (Fareey). Maamulka gobalka GEDO ayaa in dhoweydba xiiiro kale duwan la sameynayey madaxda isbaheysiga dooxada Jubba si taageero dhaqaale ugu helaan loona taabogeliyo hirgelinta qorshaha maamulka gobalka GEDO oo ka mid ah goballada ay sida aadka u ah u aafeeyeen dagaaladii sokeeye ee ka dhacahayey dalka Soomaliya. Afhayeen u hadlay isbaheysiga ayaa shaaca ka qaaday inay soo dhowaynayaan maamulka Xuseen Fareey ayna si weyn ula shaqeyn doonaan ayna markastaba garab istaagi doonaan. Afhayeenku oo hadalkiisa sii wata ayaa waxaa uu GEDONET u sheegay inay ay ugu deeqi doonaan Gaadiid uu isticmaalo maamulka gobalka,deriska ciidamada aminga iyo baabuuro kale oo ay ciidamada amniga gobalka ay isticmaali doonaan, dhowaan la soo gaarsiin doono waa sida uu hadalka u dhigaye afhayeenku. Afhayeenku waxaa kale oo intaas ku daray inuu gudoomiyaha gobalka GEDO uu dhowaan imaan doono magaalada Kismaayo si uu uga hadlo madaxda isbaheysiga dooxada jubba baahida iyo waxyaabaha ay u baahan yihiin in maamulka GEDO laga caawiyo. Xamdi-yare Gedonet
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The deed is done. Xaflad Lagu Maamuusayo Barasaabka Gobalka GEDO Oo Lagu Guda Jiro Guddigii loo xilsaaray xafladda lagu maamuusayo gudoomiyaha cusub ee gobalka GEDO ayaa si habsami ugu guda jira qabanqaabada xafladda. Mid ka mid ah guddiga qabanqaabada xafladda oo xalay u waramayey GEDONET ayaa shaaca ka qaaday inay dadweyne badan oo ka mid yihiin nabadoono, waxgarad iyo dhammaan qeybaha kale duwan ee bulshaweynta gobalka GEDO iyo weliba xildhibaanada ka socda dowladda federaalka ku meel gaarka ah ay ka soo qeyb gali doonaan Xafladan. Wasiirka ku xigeenka garsoorka Xildhibaan Yusuf Maxamed Cabdiqadir (Kaanti), Xidhibaan Xasan Cabdi Xiiray (Deer), Xildhibaan Nuur Mataan Biriq, Xildhibaan Xuseen Cadaawe, waxgaradka,culumaadiinka, haweenka, maamulada degmooyinka iyo dadweyne badan oo kakala imaan degmooyinka iyo degaanada gobalka GEDO ayaa la filaya inay ayaguna ka soo qeyb galaan xafladda oo aan weli waqtigeedii la cayimin. Xildhibaano kale oo ayaguna ka imaan magaalada Jowhar ayaa ayaguna la filayaa inay imaan doonaa caasimada gobalka GEDO si ay ugu qeyb galaan xafladda. Afhayeenka xafladdu waxaa kale oo uu sheegay inay martiqaad u direen masuuliyiin sarsare oo ka tirsan isbaheysiga dooxada jubba. Dhanka kale, waxaa ka socda magaalada G/Haarey dib u habeyntii xafiiskii iyo hoygii gudoomiyaha gobalka GEDO oo ay kaalin weyn ka qaateen maamulka degmada G/Haarey iyo waxgarad iyo ganacsatada magaalada G/Haarey. Xafladda lagu maamuusayo mudane Xuseen Fareey ayaa waxaa akhristayaasha Gedonet ay ka dhageysan doonaan idaacada gobalka GEDO oo laga dhageysan karo www.radiogedo.com iyo GEDONET. Xamdi-Yare Gedonet
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How is this of any relevency? I think it's high time we moved on as a collective nation. What say you?
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^It's only Monday December 12th today. It's probably an internet phenomenon.
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Originally posted by McPharax: [Q] Can you try spotting the difference btwn the Farax from Burhaje & Elwaaq ?? [/Q] Lol! McPharax are you testing my sense of geography here? :cool:
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Baladxaawo: Xubno kasocda labada gole ee DFKGS ayaa kulan ay uga hadlayaan aruurinta ciidanka xoogga dalka Soomaaliya ku yeeshay Baladxaawo. - Thursday, December 08, 2005 at 07:07 Baladxaawo(AllPuntland)-Hoolka shirarka ee degmad Baladxaawo ayaa waxaa ak dhacay kulan dhex maray maamulka degmda iyo xubno ka socda labada gole ee dawladda oo uu hor kacayo wasiir kuxigeenka garsoorka iyo caddaaladda Yuusuf Maxamed C/qaadir. Kulankan ayaa waxaa diiradda lagu saarayay sidii loo sii wadi lahaa hawlihii lagu aruurinayay ciidanka xoogga dalka Soomaaliya qaybtii gobolka Gedo. Wasiir kuxigeenka garsoorka iyo caddaaladda Md: Yuusuf Maxamed C/qaadir ayaa sheegay in ay waa hadalkiisa ku weheliyaan xildhibaanno dhowr ah kuwaasoo ay si wada jir ah u aruurinayaan inta harsan ciidanka xoogga dalka ee aan wali la isku dubba ridin. Shirkaan waxaa lagu casumay madaxda ciidamada degmada kuwaasoo laga codsaday inay sida ugu dhaqsaha badan kusoo aruuriyaan ciidan gaarya illaa iyo 400 oo askari kuwaasoo ku biira ciidan horay looga aruuriyay gobolka Gedo oo tiradoodu gaarayso 300 oo askari oo haatan kusugan gobolka Waajid. Wasiir kuxigeenka garsoorka iyo caddaaladda wuxuu tilmaamay in dar dargalintan hawlahan ay timidday kadib markii xoogaa habacsanaan ah laga dareemay aruurintii ciidamada. Maamulka degmada Baladxaawo ayaa sheegay inay u hawlgalayaan sidii ay ugala shaqayn lahaayeen ciidamada isku dubbarididda ciidamadan. CCC Farayaamo AllPuntland
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Baardheere: Kulamo waxgaradka iyo maamulka degmada Baardheere ka yeesheen sidii ay dib ugu furi lahaayeen garoonka diyaaradaha ee Baardheere. - Friday, December 09, 2005 at 07:05 Baardheere(AllPuntland)- Maamulka degmada Baardheere iyo waxgaradka ayaa maalmihii ugu danbeeyay lahaa kulamo is daba joog ah oo kusaabsan sidii irdaha loogu furi lahaa garoonka diyaaradaha Baardheere oo muddo xirnaa. Sida uu sheegay masuul kamid ah maamulka degmada oo lagu magacaabo Cumar Ilkocase , waxaa kulankan looga hadlayay sidii hay'adaha ajnabiga ah looga dhaadhicin lahaa inay ka hawlgalaan magaalada Baardheere. Hay'adaha ayaa lagu dhaliilay tan iyo 2003da inaysan wax hawl ah ka fulin magaalada Baardheere marka laga reebo tallaalka Lixda cudur oo ay WHO ka fuliso halkaasi. Hay'adaha ayaa waxaa kaloo lagu dhaliilay inay ka gaabiyeen horumarinta arimaha caafimaadka iyo waxbarashada oo horay si habsami ah uga socon jiray Baardheere. Kulanka dhex maray maamulka iyo waxgaradka degmada Baardheere waxaa kaloo looga hadlay sidii mar hay'adaha looga dhaadhicin lahaa inay isticmaalaan garoonka Bardheere. Garoonka diyaaradaha magaalada Baardheere ayaa 2003dii diyaarad kusoo dagtay ay rasaas ku fureen dablay hubaysan oo u dhalatay degmada Baardheere , xilligaasi ayay si rasmi ah hay'adahu u joojiyeen shaqadii Garoonka. Waxyaabaha shirkaasi lagu soo qaadayna waxaa kamid ahaa in ammaanka degmada Baardheere uu noqdo mid la isku hallayn karo oo aad u wanaagsan. CCC Farayaamo AllPuntland
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Max’uud Sayid Aadan oo sheegay in ay bilaabayaan dhismaha Maamulka gobolka Gedo. Baardheere 10 Dec. 05 ( Sh.M.Network) Wasiirka hantida qaranka iyo qalabeynta Max'uud Sayid Aadan ayaa waxa uu sheegay in dhowaan ay bilaabayaan dhismaha maamulka gobolka Gedo ka dib markii dowladda FS ay ka heleen dhaqaalihii lagu dhisi lahaa maamulkaasi. Wasiirka Hantida qaranka iyo qalabeynta dowladda FS Max'uud Sayid Aadan ayaa waxa uu si cad u shaaciyay in isaga iyo xubno ka tirsan dowladda ee ku sugan magaalada Jowhar ay dhowaan ka amababaxayaan halkaasi si ay ugu biiraan xubno ka tirsan dowladda FS oo maalmahaan ku sugnaa magaalada B/xaawo si ay u gudo galaan dhismaha maamulada degmooyinka gobolka Gedo. Wasiirka waxa uu intaasi ku daray in dhismaha gobolka ay hakiyeen dhaqaalo la'aan iyo dib u dhac ku keentay balse waxa uu sheegay in haatan ay heleen dhaqaalihii loogu talo galay dhismaha gobolka isla markaana ay shalay heshiis la saxiixdeen hay'adihii gobolka isla markaana lagu wareejiyay dhaqaalihii, waxa uu sheegay in 18 ka bishaan ay bilaabayaan dhismayaasha maamulada, iyadoo laga bilaabayo heer degmo oo la fariisinayo duqeyda iyo waxgaradka si ay u doortaan gole yaal degmo oo ka kooban 21 xubnood, kuwaaasi oo uu sheegay in ay iska dhex dooran doonaan Gudoomiye iyo labo K/xigeen iyo xubno kale ka dibna degmo kasta ay dhisan doonto lix xubnood oo uga qeybgala maamulka gobolka waana nidaam ku qeexan habka ismaamul goboleedka ee ku qeexan Charterka FKMG ah ee Somaliya. Shabelle Media Network, Gedo
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Shir Lagu Taageerayo Gudoomiyaha Gobalka GEDO Oo Ka Dhacay Columbus, OHIO Shir lagu taageerayo gudoomiyaha cusub ee gobalka GEDO Mudane Xuseen Sh.Cabdi Ismaaciill (Fareey) ayaa lagu qabtay magaalada Columbus, OHIO. Waxay dhamaan dadkii ka soo qeyb galay shirkaasu ay go'aansadeen inay jaaliyadu ay hiil iyo hooba ay la garab istaagaan maamulka cusub ee gobalka GEDO. Waxaana loogu baaqaya in shacabka GEDO ay la shaqeyaan maamulka cusub si gobalku loogu dabaalo horumar iyo wado noolaasho. Waxaana ilaahey ugu rajeynayaa inuu noqodo midkii noqdo inuu guto xilkiisa si daacadnimo ah isla markaana soo afjaro khilaafaadkii ka jiri jiray gobalka GEDO. Chief Adan-Barre Axmed Seed- Wakiilka Ugaaska 1. Gov. Xaaji Cali-Xaashi Maxamed Adan 2. Amb.Adan Xirsi Ciise (Sandheere) 3. Xildhibaan Xaaji Nuur Cali Xasan (Nuur-Gaab) 4. Maareye Guud,Cabdullahi Xaashi Waranle 5. Xasan Cali Cumar-Gudoomiyaha Somali Community, Columbus, OHIO 6. Col.Xaashi Cali-Mire Maxamed 7. Xaydar Cali-Dhuux Cumar Cilmi 8. Xasan Xaashi Dhoore 9. Col.Cabdi Xaashi Dhoore 9. Ibraahim Yusuf Holosh (Ibraahim Dheere) 10.Col. Maxamed Dauud Cilmi 11.Col.Ibaraahim Shire Warsame 12.Col.Ibraahim Guulwade 13. Cali Sheekh Axmed-(Cali Taar) 14. Col.Cabdullahi Muuse Dhadoon (Kashiido) 15. Col. Ibraahim Guleed Jucfe 16. Duuliye Sare Cali Garaad Axmed 17. Xaaji Axmed Macallin Juquraafi 18. Cabdi Jaamac Guunguune 19. Cabdirashid Cali-Dhuux Cumar 20. Eng. Maxamed Cali Xaashi 21. Mahad Wadeeco allah 22. Col.Xuseen Sh.Cabdullahi 23. Axmed Shire Deer -Dhagacadde 24. Axmed Nuunow Barre 25. Col.Yusuf Farax Xasan (Garaaso) 26. Col.Cismaan Xandulle Guule 27. Sh.Xasan Cali Xirsi Base 28. Adan Xaashi Axmed DHabacadeeye 29. Cali Xaashi Axmed Dhabacadeeye 30. Maxamed Cabdullahi Faarax 31. Maxamed Cali-Qamaan Guleed Jucfe 32. Saahid Qodob Cali-Gurxan Jucfe 33. Cabdul Adan Biixi Ilaawe 34. Cabdi warsame Xirsi Deer 35. Maxamed Faarax Buraale 36. Axmed Maxamuud Dirir 37. Nuur Cali Caabi (Qaxooti) Jees Gedonet, Columbus
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