You would do better finding someone of your maturity level to engage your juvenile taunts.

As usual, you are foaming at the mouth every time you hear the name Gedo or anything to do with it. It is redundant to engage you. One would think you would be more concerned about your own hometown of Gaalkayo.

Kenya did not attack inside of the Somali border and the Ethiopian involvement is overblown as usual as relating to this region. Also, I believe it is a bit dishonest to include Farmaajo in your title. The offensive was planned by the Dollow boys for the last two years.

Gedo has been adversely impacted true, but I do not believe Gedo will see a more deadlier war than the Ethiopian-SNF-Al Itihad war in the mid-latter 90's. As for the current war, it stands to be mentioned Beled-Xaawo suffered tremendously but the fact that Al Shabaab has been unable to take back Ceel-Waaq, Luuq, Beled-Xaawo, and Dollow says a lot about the level of defeat the organization suffered. They are on the defense in the region.

Xiin, at times you paint yourself as an extremely optimistic person which, while admirable, carries with it the pitilessness of being somewhat removed from reality.

xiinfaniin;712253 wrote: Somalis will have fond memory for the years to come of whoever breaks first the political culture of empowering foreign entities to facilitate Somali talks. I would be happy for whoever takes the initiative first, Faroole or Sharif/Farmaajo team. Correct me if I am wrong, but judging by the current Somali majority consensus, the Farmaajo government has already shot the first shots in changing the discourse. I do not understand your judgment with respect to "whoever breaks" the mold, at least without taking into consideration the limitations of normative Somali bias (socio-political tribal based). It is well understand that if this moment is really the beginning of Somali internal attempt to solve Somali problems, then those who had participated in the Nairobi conference including Faroole, Sharif Xassan, etc will be recorded as those having supported the "anti-Somali agenda"; the "others" (foreign lackeys) vs. the "us" (Somali nationalists).

Xiin, you seemed to have great faith in the Nairobi conference prior to the latter developments starting with the TFG executive branch's vocal opposition. It was just weeks prior when you put forward the Nairobi conference force disintegration of the TFG in Mogadishu, giving the south to Al Shabaab, and restarting in Garowe? What is at the crux of your change of heart? Forgive me for assuming but it seems many of the Puntlanders just want to be at the center of any Somali conference, and therefore of any future Somali construct, and such a situation is impossible considering we are in civil war and majority of the Somali entities and clans each view each others' influence with suspicion. This has been showcased by Puntland's unbridled ambition to be relevant in the future Somali construct starting with the Yusuf appointment, the attempt to take advantage of Shermaake's position as PM, and the current shameless attempt to compete with central Somali government in international fora following the internal assumption Puntland has lost influence in the TFG center. It also explains both the vigorous push back received as well as the form of "redemption" Abdullahi Yusuf is seeking by castigating Faroole as following a wrong path; that tried and failed path followed by Yusuf prior. If Mogadishu holds 500 MPs and the TFG, is the capital of the country, and is considered the appropriate venue where all stake holders will feel on an equal setting in as far as the agreed upon consensus of base of Somali national political leadership is concerned then I believe Faroole and those trying to compete, often at a folly, for national influence are the ones who need to compromise. You can't have attacked clans and personalities, attempted to arm wrestle your way even at the expense of the TFG institutions which you are a part of, trying to threaten and blackmail the TFG into capitulating to your desires and then expect to be taken as offering goodwill and honored with a privilege of being at the center of the future Somali construct, particularly when you have Abdullahi Yusuf being at the forefront of those criticizing such a naked, and might I say, alienating ambition. Puntland has a better chance than most of being given such an honor, but in my estimation, being bestowed that accolade has the odds stacked against it as long as Faroole is at the helm of leadership in that area. I would also ask you to try to stay on the realistic side of the Somali politikking and cease attempting to bring Somaliland into the picture in order to legitimize your (what seems like) anti-Mogadishu basis of rationalization. Somaliland is for Somalia to sit down with. There is no chance it will risk its self-announced independent position by being seen as another Somali faction part of the Somali southern conundrum. I am sure you already know that though.

Impressive shall I say?

What's really unique about the current TFG impasse is that the president and prime minister are in lock, step, and key unique to all the TFG administrations prior. This is why Mahiga is finding it a little more difficult to exert his influence like Ould Abdallah.

Jacaylbaro;711643 wrote: It is a free market and competition is necessary here ..... Magaalo joog xumaan maqli jiray. Supporting Somaliland secessionism doesn't mean every event is worthy of support. There is no true free market and if you believe that, may God have mercy on you. Free market is a term to take advantage of helpless and developing countries by rich countries who developed at their own pace. If free market markets was really the case, the US wouldn't have farm subsidies while they force Liberia to open up its land to multinationals or nationalize the car manufacturing industry during the 2008 crash. It took one crash to put to test the system US advocated for decades and decades, and here you in a poor, underdeveloped society below that of even developing countries are regurgitating Western hypocritical mantra. Kula yaabi maayo, Soomaali baad u tahay.

This is negative for all Somali remittances based in Somaliland. While you look at a more convenient way of sending, you are forgetting how involved Somali remittances are in the local economy back home. They serve a vital purpose including helping during drought and other forms of donations and development they contribute to. Both the money you send as well as the fee you pay for sending is channeled as capital into the local economy.

The individual reminds me of a cat look at its reflection and seeing a lion. You don't measure particularly strong in the radars of most of those countries.

Libaax-Sankataabte;711419 wrote: Before he took office, he came across as a Siyaadist ideologue. But as the events on the ground rendered the early fears unwarranted, the man found his footing in Shariif’s listening ears. Compatibility is an important commodity in the shifting sands of TFG politics. Shariif and Farmaajo are compatible. But that is where the festivities end awoowe. Both Shariif and Farmaajo see some of the major clan in the country as adversaries that need to be silenced. It is not only Shariif/Farmaajo that hold that view as the first article you posted clearly indicates. Theirs is a shared political thinking lacking of any practical high-mindedness. What the two men have in common is a derivative of that old and dirty “We-have-a-common-enemy” filtering; a filtering which is hardly the tool to build a failed nation around. LOL. And I suppose you sought fit to label me as coming from tribal perspective. It is clear the only bone you have is the Puntland association with the TFG which I might bring to your attention fractured at the nature of naming a non-Puntlander to the PM position. I can say more but I suppose the degree of difference we both judge the association is that of two people look at a cup and either seeing it as half-full or half-empty. As for your earlier response to me, there is multi-paged documentation of daily undertakings that would be repetitive and wholly redundant to repeat. Once sees what they want and doesn't see what they don't want. Welcome to Somalia.

He seems to have wizened up immensely. Nothing gives you more wisdom than experience.

Libaax-Sankataabte;711184 wrote: Shariif and Farmaajo haven’t done anything tangible for the country other than make PR noises and complain about "interferences" in order to cling to power. It is time for the country to move on. Armuu Cumar Cabdirashiid kaa dhex hadlayaa Libaaxoow? I agree the rules should be followed, it is the only way to navigate the waters and chart a transparent form of governance. However, attacking Farmaajo by saying he hasn't done anything tangible when he is being hailed from left and right as the most constructive post-Siyaad national leader during his short tenure says a lot more about you than him. Hopefully, Saado Ali can lesson your harsh tone. Lol

Finance minister Xalane, deputy ministers Xiddig and Suufi, former police commissioner Gen Madoobe, former army commander Gen Dhuumaal, and other visit Beled-Xaawo, Dollow, and Ceel-waaq. Also meet with the commander who captured Dhoobley, Col Ereg.

xiinfaniin;708048 wrote: Gabal, you should only blame your poor comprehension if you deduced Xiin was/is ‘very much in support of this conference’ from my other post! I would support it if the first item of the agenda were how to transition the most important part of the country to alshabaab hands. That is how you get rid off UN, EGAD, and NGOs. Though I do not understand the rationale behind this, you may not need to worry about Shabaab gaining control riding international institutions from Somali lands. The Sufi in Galgaduud have fractured officially into clan fronts with a rival administration formed just this week. Their division has made it that much easier for Shabaab to succeed in the central regions. Perhaps we shall then understand what your rationale is all about if they ever make it to the gates of Gaalkacyo.

I have known of the project before you had heard of it and privy to more of the details than Kismaayonews can glean off from official stationary. It is noble and seems to follow the skeleton of the general state, but it is not going anywhere adeer. Ghandi is an anthropologist; he is not a politician and nor really a leader. The construct form of Jubbaland is agreed upon by many in the region but many actors (including international backers) have competing attempts to monopolize the name and Ghandi, rather than being different and bringing a different context, seems to have joined the game of monopolization on behalf of a section of Kenya's foreign ministry. It is fine and dandy when you partake in the game from international hotels, but it is a different ballgame when you want to implement where it really matters. He has fallen out with the TFG, he has fallen out with AMISOM, Ethiopia is highly suspicious of it, the Dollow armed movement considers it just another faction in competition, and all this while Shabaab is firmly in control of the land. You have made the name in paper, how will you carry it to Kismaayo?

The reality stipulates this isn't a topic worthy of discussion. Hiiraanland state held in that very country of Kenya had more fanfare, but where is it in actuality?

No maamul goboleed has worked that was not implemented and agreed upon inside of the borders of Somalia. However, we have seen many such conferences at foreign hotels amidst much pomp and fanfare that have yet to be implemented. Ghandi seems to have hurried this through considering the successful operations in northern Gedo by the Dollow group.

Xiin, considering you were very much in support of this conference and even put up such a preposterous idea as giving the south and "moving" the government to Puntland, what say you about this development.

Ever since the failure of the Djibouti caravan, it seems Xiin has lost the marbles. When it comes down to where the rubber meets the road, the same entities that set the framework with which Somalia is engaged by the world, i.e international community, have clearly delineated primary and secondary objectives in the seemingly intractable Somalia impasse. Your obsession with bringing Somaliland into the fold or assumptions about the northeast's lack of national activity, or hand I should say, in so far as the official (if symbolic) representation of Somali government is concerned are secondary, if not tertiary issues. Primary issue is counter-terrorism. Somali state-building is generally a secondary issue at this point (the world would very much prefer constructive disengagement if it their desire could be implemented) while such debate concerning unity of the Republic and other going ons as relates to how Puntland can be mustered in are, for all political purposes, tertiary issues as this point. The world knows Hezbullah is not Shabaab and nor is Shabaab even cut from the same cloth as Hezbullah. Hezbullah is part and parcel of a democratic institution that accepts defeat when defeated politically and accommodates, or accepts, the participation of even non-Muslims in the national political fabric. Shabaab is something sinister, more base, more primitive, and hence more virulent in the inability to be engaged. Not only this, but due to the recent prominence of the AQP (Al Qaeda in the Arabic Peninsula) just across the sea, the stakes are higher with respect to the developing consensus concerning the need for eradication of the Shabaab's military, if not political, capacity. Let us stick to reality here. Somalia's importance to the world is the manifestation of what Shabaab victory represents. Somalia does not need to be engaged if the world had the luxury of letting Shabaab take over the national capital, and consolidating control of the more vital part, politically and militarily, of the country.

What a travesty.

All I can do is shake my head.

A clear case of shaqo la'aan or maalayacni. I suppose there has to be different methods with which to keep society preoccupied if nothing tangible exists.