Duke- Waa war hagaag ah. MM- If you had noticed, I had clearly said "ax kalana kuma haystee Axmaaro-ogolaatinkiisaan ku haystaa." I don't understand his casual indifference to the plot by the TFG to allow Habash troops to officially come into the Somali Republic when he goes to other threads and berates people for their casual support for the peaceful breakup of our lands because, as he said, it aids the Habash objective for our nation. Where is the principle? Is that not a contradiction? Yet he has the nerves the accuse every single one of his political opponents of "qabyaalad" when really, it is quite visible he is the one led by a string called qabyaalad! Tuud intaadan tuug odhan ayuu tuug ku yidhaa. As for you, might I question your objectives? What does Barre Hiiraale have to do with what I said :confused: If you have a political point to score, I suggest you score it in your own terms. Nabad Galyo.

Duke- Waa war hagaag ah. MM- If you had noticed, I had clearly said "ax kalana kuma haystee Axmaaro-ogolaatinkiisaan ku haystaa." I don't understand his casual indifference to the plot by the TFG to allow Habash troops to officially come into the Somali Republic when he goes to other threads and berates people for their casual support for the peaceful breakup of our lands because, as he said, it aids the Habash objective for our nation. Where is the principle? Is that not a contradiction? Yet he has the nerves the accuse every single one of his political opponents of "qabyaalad" when really, it is quite visible he is the one led by a string called qabyaalad! Tuud intaadan tuug odhan ayuu tuug ku yidhaa. As for you, might I question your objectives? What does Barre Hiiraale have to do with what I said :confused: If you have a political point to score, I suggest you score it in your own terms. Nabad Galyo.

^Adeer sharafta iyo sumcada ha iska ridan. Cabdulahi u hiili waa lagugu yiqiin, lakin siday tahaybo wax yaabaha qaarkood waad ka gaabsan jirtay oo garashadaas baad gaari ku ahayd. Ninkaa fikradiisa wax cusub maaha, qabyalaad indha-tirana inay ku abuurantay reer Soomaaliland ilaa reer koonfureedbo wey ogyihiin. Wax kalana kuma haystee Axmaaro-ogolaatinkiisaan ku haystaa. Caado waxaas oo kale haka dhigan. Axmaaro maanta hadaad danaysati, berrito iyagaa lagugu soo adeegsan. Necebkeedu Soomaali waa u guud, xiliyadan yeysan ku mala-wareerin. Nabad galyo

^Adeer sharafta iyo sumcada ha iska ridan. Cabdulahi u hiili waa lagugu yiqiin, lakin siday tahaybo wax yaabaha qaarkood waad ka gaabsan jirtay oo garashadaas baad gaari ku ahayd. Ninkaa fikradiisa wax cusub maaha, qabyalaad indha-tirana inay ku abuurantay reer Soomaaliland ilaa reer koonfureedbo wey ogyihiin. Wax kalana kuma haystee Axmaaro-ogolaatinkiisaan ku haystaa. Caado waxaas oo kale haka dhigan. Axmaaro maanta hadaad danaysati, berrito iyagaa lagugu soo adeegsan. Necebkeedu Soomaali waa u guud, xiliyadan yeysan ku mala-wareerin. Nabad galyo

Rahima, don't let your frusteration cloud your judgment walaal. Ha walbahaarin, we will stand on our feet united as never before in due time inshallah. Being divided, despite how it may seem now, only serves the Somali people's enemy.

Miskiin- Maxaad ka duwantahay kuwii waa hore Axmaaro dalka kusoo hogaamiyay? Wadani ha isku wacin mar dambe, yaanse lagaa maqlin wadinimo. Wadaadaduna istuunki iyo waxii dhaqan jahligaa ahaa bay istaajiyeen yaad ka karkaraysaaye, iska gadka jooji.

Miskiin- Maxaad ka duwantahay kuwii waa hore Axmaaro dalka kusoo hogaamiyay? Wadani ha isku wacin mar dambe, yaanse lagaa maqlin wadinimo. Wadaadaduna istuunki iyo waxii dhaqan jahligaa ahaa bay istaajiyeen yaad ka karkaraysaaye, iska gadka jooji.

I welcome his resignation. He is a polarizing figure indeed and it doesn't serve the Somali people's interest for him to be at the helm of the Courts. His resignation describesa strong sense of character and love for the well-being of his people. Abdulahi should follow this example, if it materializes.

Contrary to how it may seem, I trully believe the TFG is a danger to peace and security being reached in Somalia. If they were working for the interest of the people, I think they all resign from this farce and help pave the way for a complete peace and reconciliation. The Warlords are gone and the time is ripe. Ironically the institution built to achieve peace and reconciliation between our peoples is the only obstacle left.

Ethiopia has always been at the border. In the absence of a central government, they have also always discussed Gedo-Ethiopia relations in the border city of Beled-Xaawo. They are doing it now and they have always done it in the past. The only difference, of course, being that now Ethiopia's actions toward Somalia is under scrutiny. All this manouvering and pestering by Ethiopia is aimed at the Islamic Courts. They have not shown agression towards reer Gedo and it is not in their interest nor reer Gedo's. Laughable as it may seem, the Ethiopians are asking reer Gedo if there is anyway they can help them with development. There are also reports saying that the Ethiopians helped end the rift in the Beled-Xawo municipal squabbling. Reer Gedo have clearly told the Ethiopians they will not allow agression towards them and that, were they to sense it, they will fight against it as they have successfully done in the late 90's.

Originally posted by Rachel: quote:Originally posted by Rahima: Amazing how some people have stooped so low as to attack that which was sanctioned by Allah and practiced by Rasuallah. Rapists (proven guilty that is, and a condition of the courts) deserve to die. To make their deaths public is a deterrent to the people. At the time of the prophet, adulterers were stoned to death in public. Some are against it because they deny the sunnah to begin with, some believe that they have become so “educated†and “civilised†that they now feel that they have authority to question the laws of their lord, and finally some put tribe before Islam. Markaa sunnah iyo lawga aad sheegaysaa waa in caruurta masaakiinta een is difaaci kareyn gacmaha laga jaro imasaa soomaaliya niman dad dill ah ka buuxa maa lasoo qabtoo oo gacmaha laga jaro, all the warlods who killed so many young people including women and children. iyaga gacmaha iyo lugaha laga jarimaayo, waayo, ama waxey ka dhasheen qabiil xoogleh or way is difaaci karaan.. maxaa shariica law lagu dhaqmaa wadan bilaa dawlad ah oo dadku wada gaajoonayaan. Waa wax habaaran oo awalba criminal ahaa waxan caruurta googaynayaa.. Walaalay sow islama yaabti? Caqligaadu intaa'e ayuu gaaraa? Waxaa lagu yidhi ragu dambigoodi wey qirteen gabdhahi ay faraxumeeyeene si kama dambayn ah ayey farta ku fiiqayn. Maadama maxkamadooyin Islaami ah ay dhulalkaa ka taliyaan, sow kuma qasbana shareecadu inay hirgeliyaan? Haday hirgeliyeene sow kuma qasbana inay kuwa ugu dhaw dambiyadooda wax ka qabtaan intay meela kale eegin? Runtii anigu qof aan sida aqalkan loo furay la yaabay waa adigu. Kuwaa gaalo baynu nahay ku dhawaqeen, warku iyagu ha ugu ekaado. Adiguse isku xishood walaal fikradaad dhiibtay waala dhaamaa.

Positive step.

SocodBadne, I will not debate with a non-Muslim about Islamic Law. You, however, are free to debate with your creator who is to have provided our laws to us. Kuwiinaan kale. Ma waad Muslim tihiin, diinta Islaamku qirateen? Warku cadeeyo! We are refusing a fundamental aspect of our religion but are claiming to be "Muslims" will not work. Yes or no? Whole or not?

^ Kenan are you among those taught the art of Self-hate? Those taught to hate their "primative" upbringing whilst rejoicing in the enlightenment of the host nations they reside in? Good gracious boy, sida isku dhaan. Nothing beats the lethal injection in cruelty and yet it does not seem to be declining in the United States. Now maybe you have an axe to grind against the "Islamic Courts" entity but really this melodrama is not all that necessary!

"Five men who raped four women on June 22 will be stoned to death today in accordance with the Islamic sharia. They have pleaded guilty to the crime and also have been identified by the victims , " Siyad Mohamed, a militia leader linked to Islamic courts, told Reuters by phone from Jowhar. You reap what you sow. Let them meet their maker. Capital punishment exists everywhere. What makes ours any different?

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^Ninka isku kaayo daa, walle waynu kala bixi doonaaye.

Oodweyn, old chap, never have I, in all my years in SOL Politics, thought I would see the day when our resident "professor" and Somaliland affairs "diplomat" is left speechless on a matter concerning Somaliland and specifically of issues at the core of its quest for recognition! Never have I thought I would log in one day and and feast my eyes on such an unforeseen surprise. The warlords flee that ancient capital of ours, Oodweyn is left speechless, my my do pigs really fly..? Oodweyne, what is at contention is this newly surfaced document. What is at contention here are the core issues at the heart of Somaliland's, so far failed, quest for international recogntion on the bilateral State-to-State level. By god, you have built a reputation in this forum as a gun-totting lone ranger ever to rise to occasion as chief scribbler never shy of publishing perpetual spleen. Why have you suddenly lost your tongue? Do you have a fetish for continually remarking on HornAfrique's cyper character? Wonderful! However, commenting on characters while simultaneously addressing the issue at hand has never been much of a dilemma for you. Why the sudden change? Maybe Dharbaaxo Jaan has the answer; ..Mindise lagugu gawraco adaa miiska soo dhigaye Adaa soo macaa yidhi sidii maalintii hore'e.. Forgive us if we take this sudden change as a surrender on your part and a victory for the article and the forces it represents. Now be a man and give a worthy defense of the topic you have dedicated your life to or hike up your skirt and forever be gone..!

as to why I pitifully believe that you are so politically predictable. The stench of irony..! Oodweyne, it's Ayax tag, Eelna reeb and I do hereby give that article a passing grade with an advising side note on professionalism. Wey tahay.

So then, Oodweyne, it should be easy for you to refute atleast some of the major points in the article then eeh?

Peace has been achieved on the streets of Mogadishu by an unintended factor: American policy By Richard Dowden Suddenly, after more than 15 years of vicious, vengeful war, there is a chance of peace in Mogadishu, and perhaps in the rest of Somalia. The warlords have fled. In May, as the battles raged, such an outcome was as improbable as Somalia winning the World Cup. Today, peace reigns on Mogadishu's streets and the city has a single authority. This has been achieved by an even more unimaginable and unintended factor: American policy. Like a fire that incessantly re-lights itself, Somalia has erupted again and again since 1991 in battles for territory, power or honour. The reasons: outside interference and the fractious rivalry between the clans and sub-clans that define Somali life. While Africa's troubles are often blamed on too many "tribes", Somalia, the continent's most disastrous polity, has one ethnicity, one language, one religion, one culture. But the individualistic and recriminatory Somalis find it hard to make the compromises necessary for national coherence. In 2000 a national government was formed in exile, and in 2004 its assembly elected president one of the warlords, Abdulahi Yusuf. But he has failed to establish the Transitional Federal Government on Somali territory. The three warlords who divided the capital between them did not recognise his authority. With two breakaway regions, Somaliland, the north, and Puntland, the north-east, it looked as if Somalia would remain divided. Meanwhile Somali businessmen, fed up with having their goods stolen at gunpoint, began funding Islamic courts in Mogadishu to try to establish some law and order. Presided over by Islamic lawyers, the courts formed a Union in 2004, although they remained clan-based - the Habr Gedir court in south Mogadishu cannot charge an Abgal from the north of the city. Espying al-Qa'ida activists in Mogadishu, America's securocrats reckoned they were being protected by these Islamic courts. They decided to hire some guns to go and get the bad guys. They chose Mogadishu's warlords, and in February and March CIA planes delivered hundreds of thousands of dollars through Isaley airstrip north of Mogadishu. The three warlords, armed with new weaponry, created the Alliance for the Restoration of Peace and Counter-Terrorism. The reaction was devastating - if utterly predictable. Somalia is a very open society, and everyone knew within days about the planeloads of money. For keeping Somalia at war for 15 years, the warlords are already widely hated. So is American meddling. Somalis bitterly remember the bungled American intervention in 1991 which ended with some thousand Somalis and 18 American soldiers killed in a single night - the Blackhawk Down incident. The subsequent abandonment of Somalia by the US and the UN has allowed the country's wounds to fester ever since. Somalis may be divided by their very Somali-ness but they are united by two factors: their Muslim faith and a xenophobic opposition to interference by outsiders. In May young men with guns poured into the capital from all over Somalia to attack the warlords. After a few fierce battles, it was all over. The warlords fled. At a stroke Washington had achieved the very opposite of what it intended and added an extraordinary and unintended bonus: peace in much of Somalia. The hesitant and placatory chairman of the Islamic Courts Union, Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed Sheik Ahmed, is a member of a Sufi sect. He denies any intention to set up an Islamic state, condemns the desecration of the Christian cemetery in Mogadishu and says he wants to talk to President Yusuf and the Americans. Somalia has no tradition of Islamic Wahabi militancy - until very recently Somali women did not cover their heads or arms. Somalia's home-grown Islamist movement, al-Itahad, died out some time ago, and the attempt last week by some Islamic Court officers to stop people watching the World Cup in local TV cinemas was quickly stopped. No one tells Somalis what they can watch on TV. Although the media has concentrated on Sheikh Ahmed, the real power behind the movement is the businessman Abukar Omar Adan, who controls Somalia's busiest port, El Maan, just north of Mogadishu. Like all businessmen, he is open to negotiation. The Islamic Courts have no direct political ambition or capacity, but their support is essential for the establishment of a national government. Negotiations are the only way forward, but President Yusuf, whose support is in the north-east, knows he can only attain national power by force with the help of outsiders. His main ally in the region is Ethiopia. There are already reports of Ethiopian troops crossing the border. President Yusuf is also supported by the African Union as representative of the Transitional Government. On Monday the AU agreed to send a delegation to examine the possibility of providing peace-keeping troops. Armed intervention would be a terrible mistake. The role of the AU and all outsiders should be to facilitate an agreement between the courts, the Transitional Government and other power bases. Outsiders can still stir up trouble in Somalia, but this is perhaps its reunification moment, a real chance of a lasting peace. The author is director of the Royal African Society

Alle-Ubaahne At times you display extreme signs of immaturity sxb/

Wasiirka dib u dhiska iyo dib u dajinta Barre Hiiraale iyo xubna uu hogaaminayo oo gaaray magaalada Garbahaarey ee gobolka Geddo. June 21, 2006 . HornAfrik. Mogadishu , Somalia . Wasiirka dib u dhiska iyo dib u dajinta Barre Aadan Shire “Barre Hiiraale†iyo xubna uu hogaaminayo ayaa gaaray magaalada Garbahaarey ee gobolka Geddo kaddib markii uu degmada Ceelwaaq uu kaga qeybgalay kulan ay halkaas ku lahaayeen beelaha Sadde iyo Garre. Wafdiga uu hogaaminyo Barre Hiiraale oo ay ka mid yihiin wakiilo, duubabka dhaqanka iyo waxgaradka beesha Sadde oo shalay ka soo kicitimay magaalada Ceelwaaq ee gobolka Geddo ayaa xalay gaaray magaalada Garbahaarey ee xarunta gobolka Geddo. Wafuuda uu hormuudka u yahay Barre Hiiraale oo ay ka mid yihiin Xildhibaan Xasan Cumar Maxamed, Ugaas Ciise Ugaas Cabdulle, Afhayeenka isbaheysiga dooxada Jubba Bile Cabdulle Cabdi ayaa waxaa si weyn halkaas ugu soo dhaweeyey madax ka tirsan maamulka magaaladaas iyo dadweyne isugu soo baxay goobta wafdiga ay dagayeen. Wafdiga ayaa saaka kulamo hordhac ah la yeeshay duqowda iyadoo kulankaas uu ku saabsanaa soo dhaweeyn. Imaanshaha wafdigan ay xligan ku tageen magaalada Garbahaarey ayaa xubno ku dhow dhow isabaheysiga dooxada jubba oo HornAfrik la xiriirtay ay sheegeen inuu la xiriiro qorsheynta iyo u googol xaarka wadahadal nabadeed oo lagu wado in halkaas ay ugu furmaan beelaha Sade. Wafdigan ayaa hore u soo maray deegaano iyo tuulooyin ka tirsan degmada Ceelwaaq ee gobolka geddo halkaas oo uu ka soconayey shirka nabadeednta beelaha Sade iyo Gare, iyadoo shirkaas lagu gaaray qorshayaal iyo go'aamo la xiriira dhinaca nabadda. Sidoo kale wafdigan ayaa hore u soo maray tuulooyin ay ka mid yihiin deeganada Cows-quran iyo deegaanka Ceelasha halkaas oo ay hore uga soo qaadeen jidgooyooyin goobahaas u yiilay kooxa burcad ah oo la sheegay inay ku heysteen gaadiid u sii socday dhinaca deegaanka Xadka.

Barre Hiiraale Oo Soo Gaaray Caasimadda G/Gedo Wafdi ballaaran oo uu hogaaminayo wasiirka Dib u dhiska iyo Dib u dajinta ee DFKMG ah ee Soomaaliya Xildhibaan Col. Barre Aadan Shire (Hiiraale) ayaa xalay saqdii dhexe soo gaaray degmada G/haarrey ee xarunta Gobalka Gedo. Wafdga uu horkacayo Barre Hiiraale ayaa waxaa ka mid ah masuuliin sar sare oo uu ay ka mid yihiin Gudoomiyaha G/Gedo Xuseen Sh. Cabdi Ismaaciil (Xuseen Fareey), Ugaas Ciise Ugaas Cabdille, Xildhibaan Xassan Cumar Maxamed, afhayeenka isbaheysiga dooxadda jubba, Bile Cabdille Cabdi iyo xubno kale oo muhiim ah. Wafdigan heerka sare ah ee haatan soo gaaray caasimadda G/Gedo ayaa in dhawaalaba ku sugnaa degmada Ceel-waaq halkaas oo uu kaga hawlanaa dadaallo lagu doonayay in lagu soo afjaro is-maan-dhaafkii u dhaxeeyay beelaha ku dhaqan degmada Ceel-waaq ee SADE iyo Garre iyo in degmadaasi laga yagleelo maamul midaysan oo ay si buuxdo uga wada qayb galaan beelaha wada dago degmada Ceel-waaq iyo deegaamada hoosyimaado. Booqashada wasiirka dib u dhiska iyo dib u dejinta, Xildhibaan Barre Hiiraale uu ku yimid xarunta G/Gedo ayaa lagu sheegay in ay ku salaysan tahay qodobo la xariiro: dhamaystirka hannaankii nabadeed ee horay uga unkamay G/Gedo, ebyidda maamulada heer-ka gobal iyo kuwa degmooyinka ee G/Gedo iyo waliba arrimo kale oo ku saabsan sidii loo hergalin lahaa habab horumarineed oo uu ku tillaabo qaado G/Gedo. Wasiirka oo si weyn loogu soo dhaweeyay caasimadda G/Gedo ee Garbahaarrey ayaan ilaa iyo iminka wax hadal ah u jeedin shacabka degmada Garbahaarrey, hase ahaatee waxauu maanta kaga dhawaaqay madasha qado sharaf loo sameeyay in uu maalinimada barri ah la hadli doono bulshada ku dhaqan degmada Garbahaarrey halkaas oo la filayo in uu faafaahin dheeraad kaga bixiyo umuuraha la xariiro ujeedada socdaalkiisa. A Gaaruf Gedo News Desk Garbahaarrey

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