^Cheesy chauvinism won't get you anywhere sxb. Rather it shows the need to mask insecurity..

Wefdigii golaha Maxaakiimta ee tagay magaalada Khartuum oo galabta dib ugu soo laabtay magaalada Muqdisho. July 25 2006 Horn Afrik, Muqdisho , Somalia Wefdigii golaha maxaakiimta ee tagay magaalada Khartuum ee dalka Suudaan ayaa galabta dib ugu soo laabtay magaalada Muqdisho kaddib markii kulanki la filayey in halkaas uu ku dhexmaro iyaga iyo dowladda uu dib u dhac ku yimid. Wefdigan oo galabta ka soo dagay garoonka diyaardaha ee Cisaley ee duleedka magaalada Muqdisho ayaa waxaa uu ahaa wafdigii golaha maxaakiimta u matalayey shirkii labaad ee dib u heshiisiinta oo la filayey in maxaakiimta iyo dowladda fedraalka uu ku dhexmaro magaalada Khartuum ee dalka Suudaan. Prof Ibraahim Xasan Caddow oo ahaa madaxii wefdiga maxaaakiimta shirka Khartuum u hogaaminayey oo galabta shir jaraa'id ku qabtay xarunta golaha maxaakiimta ayaa sheegay inay ka soo baxeen balantii shirkii Khartuum oo ay tageen waqtigii loogu talagalay balse waxa uu nasiib daro ku tilmaamay in dowladda fedraalka ay ka baaqsatay ka qeybgalka shirkaas. Sidoo kale Prof Ibraahim Xasan waxa uu ka warbaxiyey intii ay Khartuum ku sugnaayeen inay kulamo la yeesheen madaxda jaamacada carabta iyo mas'uuliyiin ka tirsan dowladda Suudaan. Prof Ibraahim Xasan Caddow mar wax laga weydiiyey in mar kale ay dib ugu laabanayaan magaalada Khartuum si wadahadal ay ula galaan dowladda fedraalka ayaa sheegay in aaney wax wadahadal ah la galeyn dowladda fedraalka inta ciidamda Itoobiya ay ku sugan yihiin gudaha Soomaaliya. Soo noqashada wefdigan ayaa ku soo beegmatay iyadoo saacado yar ka hor magaalada Muqdisho ay soo gaareen wefdi ka socda Qaramada Midoobay oo uu hogaaminayo Mr. Fall oo ah wakiilka Qaramada Midoobay u qaabilsan arrimaha Soomaaliya ayna ka wadahadleen golaha maxaakiimta sidii mar kale la isugu dayi lahaa in la isku soo hor fariisiyo dowladda KMG ah iyo golaha maxaakiimta.

Imagine my surprise when I found out it was none other then our former great imam of Seattle. A truly respectable leader in his own right who had, not only the the respect of Somalis, but of the whole Islamic community in the state of Washington. Imagine that, a great scholar and a former professor of Islamic studies. Kudos to the Courts! My support increases everytime I see the calibre of their members. Sheikh Ibrahim recently asked to be sent back to Somalia after being arrested and being held by the anti-terrorism and immigration officials on flimsy charges. First he was accused of lying to immigration officials, then of being a member of the ONLF, and then of other accusations. Everytime a charge was refuted, another soon followed until it was obvious to all that the good Sheikh was being held on acount of only being a respected religious leader. Since the harshest sentence of those charges was deportation, the good Sheikh volunteered to be sent back to his country after having coverted a total sum of 38 people in the Washington immigration facility at Tacoma. Earlier Arrest There goes the Sheikh in the left hand side with glasses and cimaamad.

Xiin- I stand by my statement.

Labadiina oo is dabo-socone lama waynayo. horn, i have not heard he banned salat, and i asked older people , and they said he never did; Then what are we debating about, good Bilan?

^I must be losing my touch then sxb. Kindly excuse me.. :cool:

Originally posted by General Duke: The problem is deep, and what ever you might say not everyones property has been returned and not everyone has close links with Inda Cade.... ..and I do? Or is it maybe that you think Hiiraale has? Or that my clan does? I have also been noticing your current attacks on Jubbas and Kismaayo and that they are occupied..? Is this new turn around on account of my opposition to adeer? Why these baseless accusations now when you have always ignored, and even at times corrected our going-with-the-wind Xiin, on baseless accusations and assertions vis-a-vis Kismaayo and Jubba phenomenon? You had better correct yourself Duke. I here a contingent of sorts comprising a section of "Ciidamada Qaranka" from Gedo have arrived in Baidoa..

^My properties were returned to me and by Indhacade's representatives themselves, ka waran..? I also know others who have also been blessed likewise and still others who are in successful negotiations. Dadku ha xaq-tirin.

Too much weight on the car and it breaks down infront of your eyes. Just when will be enough?

Good Bilan I am well aware Siad Barre's rule was a dictatorship and, as a result, there are much more who were opposed to his rule because of personal, religious, and most often clannish reasons then there were those who weren't. His autocratic rule and whatever his various policies were are not my contention. A young man went so far as to allege that Siad Barre, like Ataturk, banned the hijab and banned the salaat. Where? When? What law? What specific code? What article? What line? Covering in the education system depended on the individual teacher. A teacher might have removed students for not wearing the appropriate "uniform", which might not have included the hijab, while in the same institution another teacher might removed students for also not wearing the "uniform", which might have included the hijab. The policy of the government concerning such issue was non-existent, yet some of us allege it altogether banned it! Where did they live that we didn't live? When did they live that we didn't live?

Kashafa- Sheeko Heblaayo is wrong and right is not my point. Discussing whether Siad Barre's government was an Islamically rooted government or not is also not my point of contention. Accusing the former president of banning the hijab and the prayer, two fundamental aspects of our religion, IS my point of contention. Proof is in the pudding now be a doll and provide the pudding awoowe. Nowadays you would have to be lucky not to come across some sort of revision of history by "enlightened" young ones.

Dawlada haday saan u xoog-badantahay maxaa Habashka wadanku keenay?

Originally posted by General Duke: Wasiir beeniyay in Ciidamo Itobiyaan ah soo galeen xadka Posted: 2006 Jul 21 - 21:43 • Wasiirka Hantida iyo qalabeynta Dowladda Federa-alka Somaliya Maxamuud Sayid Aadan ayaa sheegay inay degan tahay xaalada go-bolada Soomaaliyeed ee xad-ka la leh dalka Itoobiya ay ta-hay mid degan, gaar ahaan gobolka Gedo. “Dhaqdhaqaqa ciidan ee ka jira gobolka Gedo waa Ciidamadii SNF iyo kuwii xooga dalka oo loo diyarinayo inay ka mid noqdaan ciidama-da Qaranka Soomaaliyeed, balse qaar ka tirsan Idaacada-ha Muqdisho ayaa ku tilmaa-ma inay yihiin kuwo Itoobiya-an ah†ayuu yiri Wasiirka Ha-ntida oo intaasi raaciyay. “Haddii ay dhacdo in ciidamo Itoobiyan ah dalka yimadaan waayo cida ka baq-eysa oo ay baacsanayan?â€. Wasiirka oo sheegay in mas’-uuliyiinta Soomaaliyeed ay tagaan Itoobiya, kuwa Itoobiyana ay yimaadaan Soomaaliya, isla markaasna aysan jirin wax kala xiraya. Maxamuud Sayid Adden labada kun ee bishii UNta ku siiso Baydhabo iyaa wax waliba uga sahlan siiba sheegitaanka runta. Maadaama ay shirkii Garbahareyna awoodiisa iyo awooda qabqablayaashii hore ee Gobolka Gedana maquunisay, cid uu ku xisaabsanyaa jidhin!

Somali Islamist orders 'holy war' A Somali Islamist leader has ordered a "holy war" to drive out Ethiopian troops, after they entered the country to protect the weak interim government. "I am calling on the Somali people to wage a holy war against Ethiopians in Somalia, " said Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys of the Union of Islamic Courts. Ethiopia denies that its forces are in the government's base of Baidoa, but a BBC reporter has seen them patrolling. The UIC took control of the capital, Mogadishu, last month. Since then it has consolidated its power over much of southern Somalia. But Ethiopia is strongly opposed to the Islamists and has repeatedly warned that it will send its army into Somalia if the interim government is attacked. On Wednesday, Islamist militiamen were reported to have advanced to within 60km (37 miles) of Baidoa. They have since withdrawn and deny planning to attack the town. Ethiopia has been a long-term ally of President Abdullahi Yusuf and in the 1990s helped him defeat an Islamist militia led by Mr Aweys. Speaking on national radio station Shabelle, Mr Aweys accused President Yusuf of being "a servant of Ethiopia for a long time". The BBC's Mohammed Olad Hassan in Baidoa says the town is calm and a curfew has been imposed. Clapping In the capital, thousands of people participated in what was called a peace demonstration to show how the city had been transformed in the last month under Mogadishu's new rulers. Correspondents say a convoy of some 500 cars travelled from one side of Mogadishu to another without passing through any checkpoints, which until last month dominated the city. Mogadishu's residents have lived through 15 years of anarchy as rival warlords divided up the capital into separate fiefdoms. Crowds gathered at the sides of the roads and clapped and waved branches as the vehicles passed by. They also chanted anti-Ethiopian slogans during the demonstration, urging the Ethiopian troops to withdraw from Baidoa. Our correspondent says peace talks in the Sudanese capital of Khartoum, where a UIC delegation has been waiting for over a week for the government, look even more unlikely to take place. The UIC's head of security has said the talks will be cancelled if Ethiopian forces did not leave Somali soil. Mr Aweys has denied US claims that he is linked to terrorism. He has been on the US list of people "linked to terrorism" since shortly after the 9/11 attacks in 2001. A UN report earlier this year said that Mr Aweys had been getting significant military aid from Ethiopia's rival, Eritrea - a claim Eritrea has denied. Source

^Why relagate the Somali nation's job to a clan militia? You do realize Gedo is not the objective..? The objective is Mogadishu; the objective is the representative of the Somali nation to the world.

Samurai- Do not despair my man. There will come a time, somewhere in the near future I assure you, when we stand face to face and not only reminisce but to settle scores on our actions of this very day. History stands witness but as for now, keep stroking the Lion of Judah's toes in the manner befitting the ever faithful kow-tower.. Go enjoy your tea my man, tomorrow is too hazy to know if you will taste one again. ta ta

Samurai- I take it things aren't going for Abdullahi..? What this conflict, or tensions for that matter, is doing is seperating the real Somalis from the others (be that they themselves may claim to be Somali!). I would hate to say let the battle began as I am not in the frontlines and will not endure any suffering myself, but I do believe this conflict will be the one that unifies us against our enemies, Habash or Somali alike.

General Duke- I hope you understand where my concerns lied from the get go. Wallahi aad baan ugu farxay dareenkaad muujisay. If Ethiopia is emboldened by the Israeli attacks in Lebanon, I dare say they have a thing or two coming their way!

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: [QB] I want that group to open up and drop their mask. QB] PLEASE OPEN UP AND DROP THE MASK!

From what I have come to understand, Indhacade is not at all what he has been alleged to be. Indeed the man has curbed the the siege and rampant pillaging the Lower Shabelle was under for the better part of the last decade from the marauding militias that used to call that said region their personal playground. Is Indhacade the most villified character in southern Somalia? I believe so. Is he rightfully villified? I do not believe so.

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar: quote:So he took a page out of Attaturk's book and decided to uproot Islam from the lives of the people: Ban the hijab. Discourage/ban prayer. Introduce a cult system where the dictator is subtly worshipped as a demigod. Riducle religion as an archaic relic of the Middle Ages. And when did Max'ed Siyaad Barre 'ban' the xijaab? When did he 'discourage' or outright 'ban' the salaada? And 'ridicule the religion,' how? I am also astounded someone can make an accusation of that magnitude and expect to get away with it. Kashafa- From your earlier posts, one can almost ascertain you are a young colleg-age man. You have already testified that your information is from the proverbial Somali mouth. What are your other sources?

Waxgarad iyo aqoonyahanada beesha Sadde oo go'aano ka soo saaray ciidamada Itoobiya ee ku soo xadgudbay gobolka Geddo. July 15, 2006 . Horn Afrik. Mogadishu , Somalia . Odayaal, waxgarad iyo aqoonyahanada beesha ****** ayaa kulan ay maanta isugu yimaadeen waxa ay ka soo saareen go'aano ay uga soo horjeedaan ciidamada Itoobiya ee ku soo xadgudbay gobolka Geddo. Kulankaas ayaa looga hadlay dhibaatooyinka ciidamada Itoobiya ay ka wadaan dalka Soomaliya gaar ahaan gobolka Geddo. Ciidamada Itoobiya ayaa si joogta ah ugu soo xadgudbo gobolada xaduuda la leh dalka Itoobiya sida gobolka Geddo iyadoo saraakiil Itoobiyaan ah ay dhawaan la kulmeen maamulada degmooyinka gobolkaas. Saraakiishaas itoobiyaanka ayaa maamulada ay la kulmeen waxa ay ka dhaadhicinayeen sidii ay ula shaqeyn lahaayeen. Col. Odawaa Shahaad Maxamuud oo ka mid ah waxgaradka beesha ****** ayaa sheegay in Itoobiya ay diinta iyo dadka la dagaalameyso. Waxgaradka odayaasha iyo aqoonyahanka kulankaas yeeshay ayaa sheegay inay ku dadaalayaan sidii ay uga hortagi lahaayen dhibaatooyinka ciidamada Itoobiyaanka ay ka wadaan gobolka Geddo. Ma ahan markii ugu horeysay oo ciidamada Itoobiya ay soo galaan dalka Soomaaliya islamarkaana ay dhibaato ka geystaan xilli dowladda fedraalka KMG ah Soomaaliya isu diyaarineyso sidii ciidamo loo keeni lahaa dalka Soomaaliya, iyadoo ciidamada Itoobiya ay ka howlgayaan qeyba ka mid ah gobolada Soomaaliya. _______________ Naming clan names ka ilaali, baliis. Meeqo maraa la sheegaa. Edit before you copy-&-paste. Dankis. [ July 18, 2006, 00:25: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

Indha-hooda inaan ka qodxaynaa go'aan inoo ah..

Il-Generalle This is nothing new to my person. I posted something about the properties of my family and I being awarded back to us by representatives of the Courts but the topic was erased as soon as I had written in it. Are you just realizing this phenomenon? Plenty of my acquaintances, both families and friends, have been awarded back their properties. On the topic though; Generalle I think what you are denying is that Abdulahi himself is the problem. Not the cabinet and not anyone else. He is the problem.

^What the TFG suffers is miscalculated relationship that is a detriment to its objectives. How can the TFG unite the Somali Republic when its chief ally is doing everything in her power to stand against that? How ironic. The people Abdulahi trusted have become the liability to his government's ability to succeed.