Originally posted by Red Sea: ^not in my book,if that is exceptable in your handy dandy Baidhabo grammer,then it's not in mind.I count details,so I expect the same from Hargeysawi like he. Miskiin is quite correct.

^Wax laga ooyo wee tahay dalka siduu ku socdo.

^Engaging in spin with you is a thing of the past for Horn, Xiin sxb. Do you see Horn even giving a fourth of a try?

Who has done an official census?

^Xoogsade iyo rag kale oo u sacab-tumo mar alle markuu laba kalmadood dhanka Muqdisho u tuuro ayuu dadka kale moodey. Aniguba la doodi maayo; Cabdulaahine waan aqaan waxuu ku nacay, maxkamadahane waa hubaal inuusan taageeradi uu awal u hayey inuusan haatan u hayn sababtay taa ku timidne waan aqaaaaaaaaaaaan.

goes directly to my old friend, namely the said Mr. XiinFaniin , who, as I said it, in another thread, would of have won, the prize that goes to the person, who have the most temerity to swap political shirt, in a drop of a hat, without even blushing, for such a soul-destroying feet of political dress-crossing in the open and in the company of polite society.... Consequently, you, my dear, Mr. Xiinfaniin remind me, or at least your conduct do so, what was said a long time ago, about the spectacle of political opportunism at it's most truism sense; particularly if one recalled, that it was thus, a practitioner of this political cross-dressing, who once said: ".... This is my political principle,...but if you object to it, I can also have different ones for your convenience. ..." So said Good Oodweyn

Wadankayagu ma meel dawlada shisheeye isku hardamaan bey noqotay?

^I think it's time you went back to the general section.

Eritrea is not a Muslim nor a Muslim-ran state. What gives them the right to interfere in our internal affairs? I'm opposed to Eritrean interference as much as I am opposed to Ethiopian interference.

U.S. accuses Eritrea of arming Somali Islamists By Katie Nguyen Thu Oct 19, 12:07 PM ET NAIROBI (Reuters) - The United States accused Eritrea on Thursday of opening another front against its foe Ethiopia by shipping arms to Somali Islamists who are rivals to a Western-backed interim government. "I think Eritrea is quite clearly attacking Ethiopia on another front. We have pretty clear evidence that's a fact and (they are) shipping arms into Somalia," U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Jendayi Frazer said on Thursday. Eritrea has long denied any involvement in Somalia, but a U.N. Security Council report in May said it has sent weapons to the Islamists repeatedly in a bid to frustrate Ethiopia with whom it fought a 1998-200 war and remains on bitter terms. Ethiopia, in turn, is believed by many to have sent troops across its border to bolster Somali President Abdullahi Yusuf's interim government against the Islamists' expansion. Diplomats fear the Somali crisis could spark a regional conflict across the Horn of Africa, already one of the world's poorest regions due to conflict and its harsh terrain. "The role of Eritrea in arming the ICU (Islamic Courts Union) and Ethiopia with its threats of intervention are unfortunate because it brings the conflict in Somalia to a regional level," Frazer told reporters at a meeting in Nairobi. The Islamists, who took Mogadishu in June and have been expanding across southern Somalia since then, recently declared holy war on Ethiopia, which regards them as terrorists. Addis Ababa has threatened to "crush" them. Analysts believe Asmara has little motive for intervening in Somalia other than to spite Addis Ababa. "Eritrea says it's against extremist governments and so it's against its natural interest to ship arms to the courts which have Shabab (youth wing) and others which are of an extremist orientation," Frazer said. She urged Ethiopia and Eritrea not to impose their ongoing border row on the Somali crisis. "We have been very clear we don't think the boundary dispute should be brought into Somalia," she said.

Inshallah sxb, inshallah.

Roobabkii Dayrta oo kacurtay Deegaanada Gobalka Gedo Roobabkii Dayrta oo kacurtay Deegaanada Gobalka Gedo Waxaana kamid ah deeganada ay ka de’een roobabkaan dhamaan degmooyinka uu ka kooban yahay gobalka gedo sida luuq,dooloow,Baladxaawo celwaaq iyo garbahaarey iyo waliba dhamaan deeganada baadiyaha ah ee hoos yimaada gobolkan gedo. Waxaa ka curtay dhamaan deegaanada Gobalka gedo roobabkii dayrta ee ay wada sugayeen dhamaan dadka ku dhaqan deegaanada gobolka gedo. Khaasatan dadka xoola dhaqatada ah kuwaasoo kumanaan xoola dhaqata ah ay soo dhaweeyeen roobkaan ayaa kusoo beegmay xili ay gobalka ka jirtay abaaro baahsan oo saameeyay dadka iyo waliba duunyada. Ma jiraan wax khasaara ah oo ay gaysteen roobabkaan ka da’aya dhamaan degmooyinka hoos yimaado gobolka gedo ee dalka soomaaliya, dadka deegaanadaasna aad bay ugu farxeen raxmada ilaahay siiyay una soo dhaweeyeen iyadoo lagu jiro bishii barakeysneed ee Ramadan. Jaamac C/laahi Guudcad E-mail jaamacyare@hotmail.com Afnugaal Gedo/ B/xaawo.

Originally posted by Sky: quote: Originally posted by HornAfrique: Hadee tani dhab tahay, I suppose I will have no choice but to give back my confidence. You gave back your confidence a little bit earlier when you found out that your clan was given more positions by the ICU in the Kismaayo maamul than you thought. Don't deny, you are to transparent. It has always been about qabiil with you. I have known from day one what the composition of that administration was and I have never been opposed to the agenda of the good Sheikhs in Mogadishu. The reasoning behind the invasion and the occupying militias are my problem.

Our people smell burning debris! A refugee awaiting registration at Liboi, an entry point in north-eastern Kenya, told the Nation in an interview: "I know that the Americans will soon come to fight and flush out the courts- We can't withstand any more bombardments." Kenya: Environment Crisis Looms As Somali Refugees Jam Daadab The Nation (Nairobi) October 17, 2006 Posted to the web October 17, 2006 Abdullahi Jamaa Nairobi Ms Maymuna Hajir stands next to a cold open hearth at the Daadab refugee camp in north-eastern Kenya, where she is likely to stay for much longer. She has been camping here for three weeks and has yet to get used to the tough conditions. With a two-year-old child strapped on her back, Ms Hajir, 40, is among the more than 30,000 Somali refugees the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees has registered since January. In despair due to the turmoil in her motherland, she fled late last month hoping for a better - or at least more peaceful - life. During her 20-year stay at her home in the Mudug region, she had nursed the hope that one day there would be peace in her country. So the emergence of the Islamic Courts Union now ruling a large swathe of the war-ravaged country was the last straw that broke the camel's back. She vividly recalls how she endured the past decades in the Horn of Africa country that has known no order since the overthrow of dictator Siad Barre in the early 1990s. Home-grown militias "I had been living in my homeland Somalia all my life, including the past 15 years, when home-grown militias have been roaming to win the rat race," says Ms Hajir. "I decided to flee because there was no hope for peace. Maybe I will be a refugee for the rest of my life, and God forbid!" According to her, the situation in Somalia where the Islamists have taken control of the southern and central parts, including key ports, gives the impression that the fighting will not stop any time soon. Most of the Somalis fleeing their country as a result of the increased military activity say there is the possibility of a war on terror now that hard-line Islamists control a large swathe of the country with a population of about 10 million. A refugee awaiting registration at Liboi, an entry point in north-eastern Kenya, told the Nation in an interview: "I know that the Americans will soon come to fight and flush out the courts- We can't withstand any more bombardments." The latest arrivals also say they left because of rising tensions between armed groups, including the rivalry between the transitional national government and the Islamic Courts Union, which is advancing to expand its control. Several thousands of people The UN refugee agency warned of a dual crisis, with several thousands of people joining the human deluge across the border into Kenya to escape the fighting in the south. The situation in the impoverished Somalia poses great security, health and environmental challenges to the entire Horn, with arid north-eastern Kenya bearing the brunt of the instability. The residents, already hit by the recent ravaging drought, talk of a threat to the environment as another the influx of refugees continues. Some 130,000 refugees, most of them Somalis, have been living at the three Daadab camps since 1991. This is one of the largest camps in eastern and central Africa. Thousands of new ones fleeing from Somalia have jam-packed temporary reception centres set up by UNHCR on the border. "We are really concerned about the large number of refugees who continue to arrive everyday" says Mr Emmanuel Nyabera, a UNHCR spokesman in Nairobi. "As it is now, we are expanding the existing camps at Daadab, but if the number continues to rise, we will have to discuss the possibility of opening new camps." The expansion plan has prompted the demarcation of new areas. The large number of asylum seekers is a real threat to the environment, says Mr Ahmed Ali of in Wajir Town. The environment activist says that already, a large tract of rangeland and potential pasture have been destroyed as the immigrants cut down trees for firewood. "A new influx of refugees in the province would deal the area a deadly blow and worsen an already fragile environment," Mr Ali adds. Concern over war on terrorism on the part of the residents of the predominantly Muslim region is mounting each passing day. The war will most likely counter the activities of the Islamic courts in Mogadishu, whose leader Sheikh Dahir Aweys is on the US list of wanted people. A prolonged conflict "If that happens then a prolonged war in Somalia would only produce an Iraqi-style insurgency," says a Wajir resident. "And obviously we are the immediate neighbours to be affected." While the residents of north-eastern Kenya admit that humanitarian activities cannot be stopped, they say some refugees should be transferred to other parts of the country to avoid the overuse of the dry hinterland, which is already threatened by desertification. The National Environmental Management Authority (Nema) is already warning of serious soil erosion and general environmental degradation in the eastern parts of Garissa and southern Wajir districts that border Daadab. The situation in Somalia has also raised security concerns in north-eastern Kenya. Already, scores of Kenyan security forces in armoured vehicles are stationed along the porous border. "Like Ethiopia and Eritrea, NEP is waking up to the instability in Somalia as it shares a long border with the war-torn nation," says another Wajir resident. But it looks as though North-Eastern Province will continue to shoulder the burden of the refugee crisis as long as the conflict in Somalia lasts. The media in Somalia are predicting that the fight will escalate as soon as a peacekeeping force is brought in. Islamists have declared a jihad (holy war) on Ethiopia and its allies, including the transitional federal government. A peaceful resolution Ethiopia wants to live in peace while on the other hand it wants the Somali population to live in racial wars, says Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed, the Islamist executive council leader, who accuses Ethiopia of interrupting a peaceful resolution. Currently, at the heart of the standoff is the conviction in the transitional federal government that Somalia's nationhood will be brought back if the peacekeeping force is deployed with the mandate to take on the Islamists. However, the courts' top officials, including Sheikhs Dahir Awes and Sharif Ahmed, oppose the deployment as they see it as a ploy to weaken their positions. In July and August, the Islamists took over large tracts of territory, and their militias marched on three regions in central Somalia - Hiran, Galgadud and parts of Mudug. As the situation in Somalia prevails, the likes of Ms Hajir are continuously losing hope. Thus, the international community should urgently intervene in what is shaping up to be worst conflict in eastern and central Africa.

Originally posted by Jimcaale: Shaw hadii coalition forces in Kabul magacaabaan Congolese boy to the airport commissioner, would tolkiisa know it’s Kabul airport not Kinshasa? I don't see how they would name a Congolese (and infact they didn't ) but why do you think the administration named from Mogadishu was that way? Remember, the forces (read militias) are the ones I had a problem with, but I never doubted the justice and fairness of the good wadaads in Muqdisho oo xaqa u socdo, baadilkana rabin!

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Xiin Inkastoo kaftan iga ahayd, hadalkayga guess ka fog waadna ogtahay. Teeda kale waxaan xasuustaa berri dhawayd yaad Puntland aaday..? How was it?

^Such theatrics Xiin..

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: If i am tribalist i would be in baydhoba fighting for the old man adeer... Weren't you just before the Great Leap? Allamagan, ninkaan warkiisa anaa kuu hayo. Cabdulahi waxuu la coloobey markuu Barre Hiiraale Jubbaland la gartay, wasiirkiisa gaashaandhigana ka dhigtay. Who knows, maybe ICUdana wuu la coloobey when they made the governor of Kismaayo city and the commissioner of Kismaayo airport the men he said have no place in Kismaayo because they are recent immigres (despite he himself said his father is from Puntland but came to Kismaayo because of the famous dabo-dheer drought in the 70's). Of course, though, he cannot oppose the Courts now; how much more of a flip-flopper can an individual be?

Interesting. This comes at a time when the Islamic Courts are in emergency contact with Ugaas Cumar Ugaas Xirsi of Gedo.

Wararkii Ugu Dambeeyay Iyo Gobalada Jubooyinka Oct 18,2006 by B/Xaawo-Gedo-NN Wararka naga soo gaarayo degmada bu’aalle ee gobalka Jubada Dhexe ayaa sheegayo in ay jiraan xiisado colaadeed oo ka oogan aagagaasi ka dib markii ay deegaankaasi ku soo dhawaadeen ciidamo uu horkacayo wasiirka gaashaan dhiga ee DFKMG ah ee Soomaaliya Col. Barre Aadan Shire Hiiraale. Ciidamadan oo aad u tiro badan isla markaana ku hubaysan noocyada hubka ee kala duwan sida gawaarida dagaalka ee loo yaqaano taknikada ayaa ku sii siqayo degmada Bu’lle halkaas oo ay bar-difaaceed ka dhigteen xoogag daacad u ah golaha maxaakimta Soomaaliya oo iyagu aagagaasi ka wado dhaqdhaqaaq ciidan, waxayna wararkii ugu danbeeyay xaqiijinayaan in ay xaaladu qarka u saaran tahay dagaallo qaraar oo xilliyada nagu soo aadan ka qarxo degmada Bu’aale. Wararka ayaa intaa ku darayo in uu shacabka degmada Bu’aale oo ay soo wajahday cabsi weyn oo xaga amniga ah billaabay barakac iyo qax isaga oo u firxanayo aagag ka durugsan degmada Bu’aale si uu uga samata-baxo khasaaraha laga baqayo in uu ka dhasho hardanka labada ciidan ee fooda isku hayo. Dhanka kale ciidamo daacad u ah Dawlada Ku meel gaar ah ee Soomaaliya ayaa ayaguna lagu soo warramayaa in ay ka gudbeen Degmada Diinsoor ee gobalka Baay. Waxayna ciidamadaas oo aad u xoogan iminka ku suganyihiin goobta lagu magacaabo Shanta-ameerica oo ku taal aagaga deegaan-ka Arabow, waxayna wararku xusayaan in laga yaabo in ay ciidamadani gacan-siinayaan ciidamada wasiirka gaashaan-dhiga ee iminka ku sii durkayo difaacyada hore ee malaysiyaad-ka golaha maxaakimta. Sidoo kale boqollaal malaysiyaad ah oo ku sugan deegaan-ka Beer-xaani oo 50km u jiro magaalada Kismaayo ayaa lagu soo waramayaa in ay sii xoogaysanayaan, waxana la sheegay in malaysiyaadkaasi oo taabacsan Col. Barre Hiiraale u diyaar-garoobayaan sidii ay weerar ugu qaadi lahaayeen ciidamada maxaakimta ee ku suagn magaalada Kismaayo iyaga oo la jaan-qaadayo dhaqdhaqaaqa ciidamada daacadda u ah Col. Barre ee ku sii socda degmada Bu’aale sida uu GEDONET u xaqiijiyay madaxa malaysiyada Beer-xaani gaashaanle sare Geelle Faarax Shakad oo sheegay in ay malaysiyadiisu diyaar utahay sidii ay gacanta ugu dhigi lahayd magaalada Kismaayo. Dhanka kale warar hoose oo ay Gedonet ka heshay ilo xog-ogaal ah oo ku suagan magaalada Moqdisho ayaa tibaaxayo in ay socdaan dadaallo xal doon ah iyo waan-waan nabadeed oo ay soo abaabuleen kooxo isugu jiro wadaado iyo waxgarad kale oo isku dayayo in ay labada dhinac ee isku horfadhiyo degmada Bu’aale ka dhaadhiciyaan sidii looga fursan lahaa isku dhac dagaal. Waxayna nabadoonadaasi la soo xariireen Ugaas Beesha **** ugaas Cumar ugaas Xirsi oo ku suagn degmada B/dheere iyo Col. Barre Hiiraale iyaga oo dhanka kalana la xariiray masuuliinta ugu sar sarrayso ee golaha maxaakimta, waxayse wararku tibaaxayaan in ayna kooxdaasi nabad doonka ah ilaa iyo iminka ku guulaysan ballan-qaad nabadeed oo ay ka helaan labada dhinac. B/Xaawo-Gedo News Network

Hadee tani dhab tahay, I suppose I will have no choice but to give back my confidence.

^I have to agree with you. War xigasho dambe iyo anigu tan baan ku kaayo kala tagnay.

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar: Horta inaa inaan kula doodo mar horaa ka quustay, oo farahaa kaa qaaday, beenta aad wadid aan hada inaa kuu jawaabo igu kaliftay. Guddoomiyaha gobolka Jubbada Hoose: Axmed Sheekh Max'ed (Axmed Madoobe) Duqa degmada Kismaayo: Bashiir Axmed C/laahi [Jarato] Maareeyaha dekedda weyn: Ciise Qaasim Max'uud. I don't have to mention their qabiil. Xasan Turkina laga dhigay Abaanduulaha Jubbooyinka dhan. Those are where the power lies, ee calaacalka badan iyo dhareerka jooji, baliis. One you also forget: Maareeyaha Airaporka: Axmed Gaarane Along with him, who is Duqa Degmada Kismaayo Bashir Axmed Jalato?

Originally posted by General Duke: I disagreed with Hiiraale on many things, but I agreed with the creation of Jubaland and the political settlement to Kismayu. I think the clan courts feared this and attacked Kimsayu under the usual pretext of religion. Rageedi. A political settlement that was ment to destroy any rifts that were wanted by others.