This war was a given the day Kismaayo was invaded.

Originally posted by Jimcaale: Door knob & Placeholder Idinka Horn aad heart attack ku rideysaan. Xiin doesn't support the ICU. If Xiin supports the ICU, then HornAfrique considers Yusuf Siyaad Indhacade a mujaahid. Sheikh Xiine haatan kama sugayo inuu raganimo muujiyo!

Originally posted by Castro: ^^ Is that the official position of the dishonorable minister of "defense" of Somalia? What's dishonorable is your hypocritical dance around here. Ileen ninku waa nin tiisa ilaalsanayo.

Originally posted by Castro: Now that the Southerners have been routed, is this the window of opportunity to reign in those "arrogant and racist" northerners and unite the country under one flag? Is A/Y the man to do it? I sincerely wish he's arrogant and deluded enough to make that mistake. You cracked the egg before it hatched.

He is a door knob with temper to match.

Originally posted by Castro: Reporter: Mr. Minister, as the minister of defence of Somalia, did you allow Ethiopian tanks and armored vehicles to bomb Somali towns? Hiraale: Allowed them? I'm leading them. LOOOOOOOL. Walee caqli xumada wa loodhasha. I do not think you understand, nor could you understand the word play.

Yes, Sky. Btw long time no see.

You misunderstood me Allamagan. What would you say (as Barre), after a betrayal of that magnitude (what the ICU did to him)?

Why would you say Allamagan, after a betrayal of that magnitude?

Degaano ka tirsan Galmudug oo ka baxay gacanta Maxkamadaha Ciidamo isugu jira maamul goboleedka Puntland, kuwo uu hoggaaminayo Cabdi Qeybdiid oo ay taageerayaan ciidamo Itoobiyaan ah ayaa xalay saqdii dhexe la wareegay degaanada Gelinsoor iyo Dhuusamareeb, iyadoo halkaasi aanu ka dhicin dagaal sidaas u weyn oo dhex maray ciidamada Maxkamadaha Islaamiga ah ee hore halkaasi u joogay iyo kuwa ay taageerayaan ciidamada Itoobiyaan ah. Taliyaha ciidamada qabsaday degmada Dhuusamareeb oo lagu magacaabo Cabdi Shire ayaa sheegay in dagaalkaasi aanu geysan wax qasaare ah, isagoo sheegay in markii ay soo galeen magaalada ay kulamo la yeesheen waxgaradka iyo bulshada degaanka ku dhaqan, isagoo tilmaamay in xaalada degaanadaasi ay haatan caadi ku soo noqotay. Wararku waxay intaasi ku darayaan in ciidamadii Maxkamadaha Islaamiga halkaasi u joogay ay kala hayaameen, iyadoo arrintaasi ay sabab u tahay sida ay sheegayaan wararka cabsi xoog leh oo ka soo wajahday in haddii isku dayaan inay is difaacaan laga soo weeraro dhinaca cirka. Dhinaca kale lama sheegin wax qasaare ah oo uu geystay dagaalkaasi ka dhacay degmooyinka Dhuusamareeb iyo Cadaado, iyo tiknikooyin lagu kala qabsaday, waxaana ilaa iyo iminka la kala garan halka ay u dhaqaaqeen in ka badan 80-gawaarida dagaalka ah iyo ciidamadii saarnaa oo taageersanaa Maxkamadaha Islaamiga ah.

Dhuusamareeb: Ciidanka dawladda oo dhinaca koonfureed udhaafay Dhuusamareeb. Talaado, December 26, 2006 APL Dhuusamareeb(AllPuntland)- Wararka aannu ka helayno magaalada Dhuusamareeb ee gobolka Galguduud ayaa sheegaya in ciidanka dawladda federaalka Soomaaliya ay maanta si nabad galyo ah ku galeen magalada Dhuusamareeb. Wariyaha shabakadda AllPuntland oo kusugan magaalada Dhuusamareeb oo aannu kula xiriirnay khadka taleefonka Sattalaytka ayaa noo sheegay in wax garadka Dhuusamareeb iyo ciidanka dawladda ay isku afgarteen in magaaladaasi si nabad ah lagu galo isla markaana waxa hubka ah ee yaalla Dhuusamareeb lasoo wareejiyo. Wariyahayagu wuxuu kaloo noo sheegaegay in illaa lix gaari oo tikniko ah lagu soo wareejiyay ciidanka dawladda, haddana ay ciidamada dawladda federaalku dhowr km koonfur u dhaafeen magaalada Dhuusamareeb. Wararku waxay sheegayaan in ciidanka dawladdu ay doonayan inay gaaraan magaalada Baladwayn oo ah saldhig kale oo wayn oo ay kusugan yihiin ciidamo kale oo ka tirsan federaalka . Cuqaasha kusugan magaalada Dhuusamareeb iyo magaalooyinka ku xiriira ee ay kamid tahay Guriceel ayaa wada hadal kadib go'aan ku gaaray in wax iska caabbin ah aysan dawladda kaga imaan doonin gobolka Galguduud. War naga soo gaaray madaxda dawladda federaalka ayaa noo xaqiijiyay in saacadaha soo socda dawladda federaalka ciidamadeedu inay horumar wayn ka samayn doonaan dagaalka, ayagoo la wareegi doona magaalooyin istaraatiiji ah. CCC Farayaamo AllPuntland

Oh how it has come to be true! The old man have planned it so that they do not get locally dragged into the conflict between the TFG and ICU. Their reasoning is that acquiescence now will be superseded by an ICU run towards the bush tomorrow, in the central regions, after (what they believe will be) a defeat later around Baidoa and other frontlines that would decide the outcome of the impasse. Source

Paragon- I support the framework for reconciliation the TFG spews and the institution-building reality that it is capable of but never Ethiopian direct interference that leads to the bombing and shelling of innocent Somali mothers and kids just because of arrogant sabre-rattling by cowardly goons like Indhacade who are protected in their reinforced hideouts in Mogadishu.

Godeynews? Oh boy ii dheh. Axmaaro kaama jecli but been abuurka gebi ahaan lama doonayo.

Truth be told, the ICU sincerely happens to be the best thing that has risen from Somalia’s political ashes since the inception of civil war. What better then the emergence of an effective rule of law sanctioned by and built on the tenets of our faith? After democracy, socialism, and anarchy I truly believe Islam is the best solution we have and that Shareecada Islaamka is our savior in these times of darkness. The ICU has sorely disappointed me and to regurgitate why would be to redundant for your ears as well as my fingers. My hopes have been let down and my support has been made a mockery. What can anyone do when former thug Indhacade today sits in the same circle as men such as Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed and actually can dictate the policies of the movement! What can anyone do when ICU storm-troopers can storm towns and cities, but the hometown of Sheikh Aweys is pinpointed as hiding ground for contrabands like Khat designed to be smuggled into cities such as Beled-Weyne and elsewhere? What can anyone do when the ICU not only passes but legitimizes the case of the L. Shabelle while dragging newly donated heavy weaponry and artillery to bomb Kismaayo into surrender? What can anyone do when the ICU ignores and excuses it being use as a shirt for undercover tribal revenge by the massacring of wounded men in hospitals? What can anyone do when the ICU wishes to control the whole nation but purposely keeps its ruling councils undiversified and not well represented? I mean is it not prudent to show respect to the civil war suspicions and sentiments of the Somali to appease all for the interest of all? What can anyone do when the ICU chooses to shutdown the livelihood of numerous needy Somali families but does not provide alternatives? What can anyone do when the ICU continues to saber-rattle not only against peace Somali regions but against neighboring states with the risk of heavy materialized direct interference thereby pushing Somalis back to square one? It is amazing how the ICU has become the best opportunity to not be. More then anything the sadness and anguish I feel is for what the ICU could have become yet today, sadly, I believe I am seeing its twilight era and the setting back of Islamic rule in Somalia for a long time to come. With that said, I do not condone the bombing and shelling of our innocent people. What kind of a person would rejoice at what is going on in Somalia knowing and having been through everything one is currently hearing from the airwaves? I have made a direct choice to support the framework and institution-building reality of the TFG and it is not a secret but that does not mean I support Ethiopian interference nor do I condone the Ethiopian shelling of Somali towns and cities. I do not and I never will, but at the same time I realize the reality of Eritrean, Oromo, as well as other foreign support the ICU is garnering and the legitimacy Ethiopia is getting to interfere in Somalia because of that. A lot of the times I feel the situation is out of our hands and it is because of that I support no one but the Somali people. May Allah be with them, Aaamiin!

I wonder what Sheikh Aweys compromised on to appease the anger of Sheikh Sharif?

Kashafa- I remember reading a wonderfully written piece by Baashi that dealt with the ICU and how they have the biggest share of the blame in what is happening to Somalia tonight. I remember your responses so I know you understand where I am coming from. 1. I categorically denounce the shelling, and bombing by some, of innocent and powerless Somali people caught in the crossfire in a war for political control by two competing factions. My prayers and support go out to all the suffering mothers from both of the divides. 2. I denounce the use of foreign troops by both sides, which has internationalized the Somali civil war in the most negative of ways. 3. I categorically denounce anyone who does not condemn the suffering of all Somali people, including those bombed by the Ethiopian air force as well as those blown up by foreign fighters from central Asia. Will you then categorically extend your support to the all the suffering Somali people of our nation rather then to one of the two competing factions who are maiming and killing Somalis?

Originally posted by Jimcaale: Horn, I've noticed your forensic investigative reporting lately but don't you think we deserve a complete thorough analysis rather than a preliminary one. Funny you ask because it would seem the allegations of my sparring partners around here had already decided what my personal opinion is. But if you are willing to say it is only because they needed someone who is not necessarily 100% with them to vent on, then I am willing to speak!

Kashafa- To defend myself would be to legitimize your allegation. The only thing I would say, however, is please do not accuse me of supporting bombardment of innocent people who do not deserve the fate brought to them by political opportunists within the ICU.

Originally posted by Kashafa: ^^ Well. To put it bluntly: You're a pig. You're a human(oid) of course....but you display pig characteristics(willing to wallow in mud to eat, lack of shame,...you know...a pig). Hence, the Oink Oink, Hog-Afrique From your tone, you still hope for me so we will just have to see!

Originally posted by Jimcaale: I don't know why you single out Shebelle on the issue of copy rights violation when it's a common practice for the million plus maryooley news sites. Not a genuine call at this time. Maybe because Shabelle is the site in question at the moment?

Col. Abdi Yusuf Ahmed, a Somali government army commander, told the AP that his forces entered Belet Weyne early Monday without a shot fired. He held up his telephone and a reporter could hear street celebrations. Source

Ciidamo la sheegay in ay ka amar qaataan Dowladda Federaalka oo la wareegay gacan ku heynta Magaalada Beledweyne Isniin, December 25, 2006(HOL): Wararka naga soo gaaraya Magaalada Beledweyne ee Gobolka Hiiraan ayaa sheegaya in ay saakay magaaladaas la wareegeen ciidamo la sheegay in ay ka amar qaataan Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliya. Col. Mukhtaar Xuseen Afrax oo Ciidaman hoggaaminaya ayaa HOL u sheegay in ay magaalada ku soo galeen si dhib la’aan ah oo aan dagaal lahayn, wuxuuna intaas ku daray in dadka magaalada ay si weyn u soo dhaweeyeen. Col. Mukhtaar waxaa uu sheegay in Ciidamada uu hoggaaminayo ee magaalada la wareegay ay yihiin kuwo ka amar qaata dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliya, kuwaasi oo si buuxda gacanta ugu haya magaalada. Ilaa iyo hadda waxaan la ogeyn halka ay qabteen Ciidamadii Maxkamadda Islaamiga Gobolka Hiiraan oo iyagu maalintii shalayd ahayd dagaal xooggan la galay Ciidamo Itoobiyaan ah iyo kuwan haatan la wareegay gacan ku heynta Magaalada Beledweyne. Ciidamadan ayaa markii ay la wareegeen gacan ku heynta Magaalada waxaa ay durba bilaabeen in ay magaalada ka bedeleen astaamihii Maxkamadda Islaamiga ee bilihii la soo dhaafay Magaalada ku sugneyd, waxaana durba dib loo howlgeliyay Ciidamadii Saldhigga Booliska Magaalada, halka Xarunta Gobolkana laga taagay Calanka Soomaaliya oo intii ay Maxkamadaha Islaamka meesha heysteen aan xarunta lagu arki jirin. Warar aan si rasmi ah loo xaqiijin balse isa soo taraya ayaa sheegaya in Guddoomiyihii hore ee Gobolka Hiiraan Yuusuf Daba-geed uu ku sugan yahay Magaalada Beledweyne, walow uusan ka mid ahayn mas’uuliyiintii ka soo muuqatay Xarunta Gobolka. Wixii War ah ee ku soo kordha Xaaladda Magaalada Beledweyne kala soco Hiiraan Online Salaad Iidow Xasan (Xiis), Hiiraan Online sxiis@hiiraan.com Mogadishu, Somalia

Originally posted by Kashafa: quote:As you well know, I do not have a habit of responding to cheap talk. Oink, Oink. Meaning?

Kashafa- As you well know, I do not have a habit of responding to cheap talk.