Kenya's defense minister, Yusuf Haji, flies to Xamar to have a talk with Shariif Canbe.... Warar hada nasoo gaadhay ayaa sheegaya in goor dhow socdaal qarsoodi ah oo aan horay loo shaacinin magaalada Muqdisho ku tageen wasiirada Difaaca iyo Arimaha Dibadda ee Kenya. Wasiirka difaaca Yuusf Xaaji iyo Wategula oo qaabilsan Arimaha dibadda ayaan la shaacinin sababta la xidhiidha socdaalkooda balse waxaa la aaminsan yahay in halkaas ay u tageen si dowlada kumeel gaadhka ah ula socodsiiyaan hawlgalada militari ee ciidamada Kenya ka wadaan gobolada Jubooyinka iyo Gedo. Labadan wasiir ayaa waxaa garoonka Muqdisho kusoo dhaweeyey wasiirka gaashaandhiga ee DFKMG iyo uqaabilsanaha midowga Africa ee arimaha Somalia Wafula Wamunyi. Ciidamada Kenya ayaa maalintii sabtida ahayd 100km gudaha ugalay Somalia iyagoo aga gaarka Qooqaani ka sameystay saldhigyo militari lana filayo in maalmaha soo socda ay weerar culus ku qaadaan ciidamada xarakada Alshabaab ee kusugan gobolada Jubooyinka.

oba hiloowlow;752409 wrote: Zack im providing facts okey aniga markaan 12 ahaay qabiil ba ma garaneyn thats the difference between u and me,, Weynaanta baad ku bilowday which is worse. Waryaa Xaaji Xanta, ninka ha igu dirin dee LOL.

oba hiloowlow;752401 wrote: Shariif aseey guusha uu danbeeysaa always mark my words, Every child believes their uncle is a winner LOL. I believed that when I was 12. Unfortunately, this Sharif Canbe individual is incompetent, hypocrite, and hase zero skills to lead the small Mahaddaay village he is from let a lone an entire nation. A failed nation asaga kaba sii daran.

In another words, how did the 550 (50% of those named by Shariif Canbe himself) parliament get it wrong? Overall, I agree he is the weakest link and will hopefully leave us alone in August, 2012.

Jacpher;752380 wrote: I opposed the Amxaaro invasion from the get-go and will do the same with the Kenyan invasion. Neither of these countries nor another nation should set a foot in my country. Let me get that out of the way and let me play a little devils advocate here. My friend Zaky, how can you explain opposing Ethiopia which was given the green light and was invited to aid the Somali government at the time to battle with the ICU? I know it was Yeey's government, sponsored and put together by foreign powers but still in paper, Ethiopia was acting on the needs and orders of Somali government, for that matter, in papers, it wasn't a violation of the sovereignty of Somalia. On the other hand, Kenya is clearly breaking/violating our sovereignty and any UN mandate between nations. We know thus far, Somali government said they did not allow or held any talks with Kenyan government to militarily intervene into Somalia. Help me understand how you don't see the war of aggression of Kenya is Somalia as it is? At least the Ethiopian troops had papers backing them, [not that it mattes] but this Kenyan incursion doesn't. Jacphar, when speaking of international laws, you would've had a point if the blessings of any foreign country intervention didn't exclude what was called the "neighboring countries". Unfortunately it did. The UN/AU/Somali parliament mandates all clearly said no to a neighboring country military involvement and yet Meles went ahead and occupied Xamar illegally. If any thing, it was only the US, for their own interest, that backed that invasion. Taas taas. Putting aside of legal aspects and speaking from our own Somali perspective, do you really believe that Kenya = Ethiopia? Do you sincerely believe that Al-shabaab = ICU? If you answer yes to any of the above two questions, you are either not being sincere or we completely live in two different worlds. To me, Al-shabaab, a foreign (alqaida to be specific) entity, is much worse than several hundred Kenyan army that crossed the so called border. Let's get the emotions out of the way and think broadly for once, alla waddankii la qabsayeey waa wareey can't continue. Al-shabaab and their co-leader, al amerikiyah, have held those parts of Somalia hostages for years now, I say it is time for them to empty the seats even if it takes "Kenyans" to do it. That is my take. Nuune, LOL@holding this against me. Sometimes people have to talk strong and take unpopular positions on things sxbkey. Kenya is doing the right thing by kicking out and weakening the already weak terror group. Down alshabaab, they will leave Jubbooyinka and the entire Somali peninsula. Some at SOL keep saying "we understand alshabaab are the worst of all but we don't want our country invaded by a foreign country", does that statement even make sense? If you really believe that Shabaab are keeping the country backwards, support anybody, specially if it is not Ethiopia, that is kicking them out. Shabaab are the biggest of all evils. Talo ma keeno talo kastana diido meel ma gaadho..there you go, my own maahmaah. This is what I see in the Jubooyinka in the next several months: Kenya kicks out the shabaab, Azania takes it over, people of the motherland live in peaceful towns again. Al-shabaab have been kicked out from Xamar, the largest city in the nation, how can they not be kicked out these smaller towns like Af madoow? They have no place to hide, they will be heading to Yemen once they are defeated and they get tired of the hit and run attacks. My only concern is..the Somali people are yet to unite over any thing and the clan war might continue. That is something nobody can do crap about but the Somalis themselves. P.s. Nuune, you claim that Kenya is an enemy of Somalia based on few personal experiences. The average Masai or Kikuyu can hate Somalis as much as they want but the Kenyan government is a great friend. The largest refugee camp in the entire universe is located in Dhadhaab and guess who the refugees are? Somalis. Some will say Dhadhaab is a Somali town and we have every right to be there, let's be real to ourselves, Kenya controls there today and it is Kenya who OK's the stay of those people. Kenya also house hundreds of thousands of Somalis in its beautiful little London, Nairobi, and an enemy would do that? Please don't come back with the crap "ayagaa faaaido ugu jirtaa ganacsiga".. how about we head to Zimbabwe maybe we will have better luck there or even South Africa LOL. Again, this is not to legalize the Kenyan incursion, this is to point out that Kenya aint the enemy you accused them of.

Kenya' incursion cannot be compared to Ethiopia's occupation. Unless someone has been in deep sleep or totally out of touch, one should know the difference. Today's al shabaab can't be compared to yesterday's ICU. Come one people! Ethiopia was enemy, Kenya is not. Ethiopia "stability" depends on Somalia's destruction, Kenya's is not. Ethiopia invaded the Somali capital, Kenya is not. The emotional reaction of this incursion.need to.stop, people need to react with objectivity, not subjectivity!

Che do you want me to support something and after they cause the deaths of thousands of innocent Somalis, disown them just like you did to your former spiritual leaders? Remember shabaab? Orders kulahaa

Jacpher;752251 wrote: ^lol@gafuurada xun. Abtigiis, this is bigger than Kissima awoowe. Now you put the country before the tolka ina adeer. You've left Zaky and his prof. out in the cold. Kenya has come to claim a piece of the pie. LOL ba'aaa! The nationalism of the Reer Bari folks is only applicable when the issue has nothing to with the Reer Bari themselves and their lands, let's be honest here. Alla mey shabaab qabsadaan garowe iyo boosaaso, we would see good jacphar calling for Jewish support. On the topic, I will not comment on it until I get enough information from the motherland.

^Divorce sucks, some don't get second chances and end being single for EVER lol. Specially those with 3 + ciyaal.

^Very good analysis from our own one and only Xaaji Xajafo . Ethiopia is the biggest evil of all evils!

They deserved to win. They were kicking butt from the beginning to the end. I just have no idea why SAF didn't start with Rooney and Nani.

Oba, I said the same exact thing bro.. I said Eritrea maxaa loola yaabi, Ethiopia-ba hadh iyo habeen bey host gareysaa shir Somaliyeed pretending iney wax noo qabaneyso iyadoo la og yahay in qaska Somalia ka taagnaa 20 years 70% iyo ka badan iney itoobiya ka danbeysay, i.e. Hogaamiye kooxeed hubeyn, qabiil isku hubeyn, and so on.

Gaacuur;751520 wrote: What's wrong whit this pic? I thought somalis are the tallest.. but this pic proves me wrong! Loooooooool the prime minister is from tuulo buryoqab, people are short there. Dadka kala baro, if he would've been from LA, Obama would've been the showty one. Just kidding waryaada. Loool@catch is if u can, catch who?

oba hiloowlow;751659 wrote: Zack sheekada ma fahansano eritrea waxey mucaawinadda uu siineyso somalia waa only politically sheeko waaye waxba kama jiro istustus kaliya waaye, wuxuu uu taageersanyahay neh wax kale mahee ONLF bey taageero siiyaan and why is that? Ujeedada waxa waaye in ethiopia ay ku mashquusho somalida wax kale mahaa eritrea and ethiopia same shit waaye waxba isma dhaaman in my eyes. You are the last person to educate anybody about what Eritrea's intentions are, the fact that you repeated the same analogy I posted on this very thread proves that. And do me a favor, leave the brave ONLF warriors out of this discussion, at least they fight against the xabashis, not bend over for them as your Shariif Canbe does. Abdul;751660 wrote: Both Eritrea and Ethiopia were fighting proxy war in Somalia.They were supporting different groups and didnt care how many somalis died in the process. true daat!

Ethiopia = hunger and famine (that is what it is known for).

Nin-Yaaban;751640 wrote: The Zack, ur Rep Power is a taking a beating on this topic. It was in the 90's a week ago. LOOOOOOL I noticed that too, yaa Nin Yaaban. Word on the street is Juxa is campaigning against me in the luuqs. All the women are now giving me a negative vote or something. I am partially blaming NGONGE, too. Nin waa hore xanjadiisii meel ku dhajistay oo ka dhamaatay baa i lu' gooyay. Aaliya and Juxa, that was a typo, for the lack of better word, or all of the above, I meant to say the opposite gender.

Juxa :D NGONGE, LOOOOOOL THEY ARE unpredictable yaah? Ehe

How is it the biggest and also the first? Which one is it bigger than? No one one because it is the first.

Lool thanks a bunch! It is not that I worried about her being nice or mean, I know the environment I am in, no meanness here it is not possible. It is just the whole process is new to me. It is the fact that I will report to the wrong gender LOL.

Hey hey this is a big deal! It is worth more than a discussion, an action LOL. By the way, 16 days to go!

What Ethiopia did to Somalia overweighs than what Eritrea did and yet the Somali prime minister visited there last week, also Ethiopia hosts AU meetings that are supposed to help. Basically your analogy doesn't work. Eritrea has every right to help us and its appreciated.

^they are giving the aid to the Somali people, nothing to do with politics

Very moving khutba. The sheekh has publicly spoken out against shabaab, now watch what happens to the masjid in isliii.

NGONGE;751379 wrote: The Zack is married? MARRIED? So what is all this guff about having his first ever woman boss? Ok, ok, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he's still a newly wed (or at least under five years of marriage). It may sound evil but I'm actually smiling now! Who said I am married or not married? Suuqa sol ha iga xidhin ninyahow. What I said was a hypothetical statement. I see you are being attacked from left to right LOL.