^: loool aside your insanity, that comment was funny.

xiinfaniin;754003 wrote: No matter how loud my good friends The Zack and Prof Abtigiis cheer lead Kenya's invasion, Somalia has friends and insha Allah we will come out of this mess very soon. Now i see it. Xiin Somalidu jazaarnimo laguma aqoon sheekh ee waa sidee, whatever turkiga do today, they are decades away to even be compared to what Kenya has done for Somalia. I understand your frustration with Kenya ee nimanka abaalkooda god ha ku xabaalin. Turkigu 20 sano ee lasoo dhaafay xagey ku maqnaayeen tolow.

Ina Gaas is right, Shariifka is wrong. I like where this is going LOL.

Xiin, no I have not, however, I have watched the people of Liboi Somalia protesting against the pathetic words uttered by Shariif Canbe.

^says the man with the history of inigiriis collaborations. Ka awoow ka awoow, Somali history notes those who always fought against gumeysi and those who always collaborated and worked for the enemy. The ironic thing is those who used fight are.changing tactics and the collaborators are somehow shocked LOL. Laga bartaa laga badiyaa.

LOL

LOL@past experience. So all of the sudden clan is a thing of the past when everything in Somalia is based on clan. Cajiib! Sorry xiin, you have been exposed big time. Denounce puntland and then we will believe that you ain't against Azania or Kenya for qabiil reasons. It is all or none. You love puntland and it is based on qabiil. Why refuse Azania?

Faafan;753990 wrote: Why hasn't sharif spoken on the Ethiopian troops in Hiiran,Gedo,& Bakool? hmm Because he is not opposing Kenya for nationalistic reasons.

STOIC;753999 wrote: After reading Zack's exchange with some of the members now i can clearly see why thy undertake the confidence in defending Al-Shabab on this Kenyan issue.I was naive and a bit confused on the clan geography of the areas concerned.This little exchange with Zack acted as a catalyst to expose a bizarre banality of some members defending their clans while deceptively hiding behind the nationalistic mantra.....Clearly CLAN IS EVERYTHING Aye aye sir! You got it!

Xaaji Xunjuf;753915 wrote: What about Shabaab or Kenya What about occupation or freedom There is no occupation, this is cooperation.

The people have spoken! Shabaabb or Azania? Definitely not shabaab!

Xiin, I didn't say that Kenya should do something because Ethiopia does it, I am pointing out your inconsistence. puntland already does the something Azania is about to do (serve its clans and appease a neighbour) why oppose one and not the other? Excuse me but spare me the non sense of qabiilada puntland baa dhistay puntland, focus on what puntland stands for today. At least I am straight forward with my reasoning. I don't preach somalinimo and nationalism when dealing with the general Somali issues and proudly support my own clan entity. Only che can question Azania on this forum, adigu la jiifayaana banaan baad meesha la taagan tahay. Che, dee your alshabaab and the onlf, garowe catches anybody that has the letter o in their name, you and I both know that.

xiinfaniin;753882 wrote: Puntland waa mirihiii shirkii Qardha, waxaa laxanka u sameeyey Mugud, Cayn, SOOL, SANAAG, Bari, iyo Nugal. Waxaa looga heesaa Garoowe awoowe. Azania waa mirihii iyo murtidii Wazaarad Gaashindhiga ee Kenya, waxaa lagu alifay hotel Nairobi ku yaala hall, weli waxaa looga heesaa Nairobi, nimaan luuq lahayna waa qaada, waa prof Gandiye Xaal bixi waryaa The Zack The past is the past, Puntland today is a buffer zone for Ethiopia and a clan entity is a fact that good Xiin can't deny, a fact that doesn't make him disown the clan entity. I am all cool with puntland, somehow it seems that the coming clan entity of Azania bothers you a lot. You can't have it both ways yaa sheikh.

xiinfaniin;753854 wrote: ^^LOL The Zack, Azania bay kaaga dhegtay. Allow kuu naxariiso YOU oppose Azania and support puntland, eesh calaa Somalinimo. If you oppose Azania, you denounce puntland nooh. Let's all admit it clan is everything. Thanks to NGONGE!

Ayoub seems to look everything with Somaliland glasses LOL. Waa sidii ninkii odhan jiray bakeyle siduu ka yahay.

NGONGE;753817 wrote: Azania seems to be the spanner in the works. It is the infamous cat amongst the pigeons and it is the one that confused everyone from Sheikh Sharif all the way to our tempremental A&T. If there were no Azania, this Kenyan invasion would have been simple and ALL would have supported it. But Azania is forcing people to be creative with their positions (the pride of A&T, the "Somalis should do it for themsevles" of Xiin and the "Sheikh Sharif wuxu yedhi" of Oba). Carabtu waxay tidhaahda: Fii shay! :D

^for me it is more of fiqi gobolkiisa kama jano tago, I support Azania.

Agreed.

Carafaat, you raised good points but I don't think Azania needs to be given a chance by anyone other than its own locals. The rest can oppose it as much they want.

^I don't hide that fact. In your case, you have set a new record of flip-flopping. You proudly supported the Kenyan incursion exactly on October 16th, just a week ago, (that was when Shariifka was cool with it) and all of the sudden changed positions following the utterance (that will change anyway lol) of Shariif Canbe. On Oct, 16th of 2011, you said: oba hiloowlow;751769 wrote: JB kenya ba dan baa ugu jirto ciribtirka shabaab marka kaalintooda dagaal waa soo dhaweyneena.. You were clearly for the Kenyan incursion. And On Oct, 24th of 2011 when Shariif Canbe "opposed" the incursion, you said this: oba hiloowlow;753521 wrote: Madaxweyne iga dheh viva sheikh Shariif . Hence the name of flip-flopper! When I called you out on that, you were like "I thought Kenyans would stay only in Dhoobley and won't come to Kismayo as Kismayo is holier than Dhoobley or as 300KM deep in Somalia is more Somali than 5KM past the border. I tell you what... I'mma let you do your thing from now on. VIVA SHARIIFKA regardless!

What is the picture for? Trying to deny the AMISOM assistance?AGGAH! There is actually an AMISOM soldier in the picture you posted. Hint: Look to far left corner LOL. The AU tank he rode, yaa flip-flopper And if one is detail-oriented, one can clearly see the second and the third soldiers behind the gentlemen on the blue are both the AMISOM brothers.

Duufaan;753670 wrote: Well done Shariif this time. what are the benefit of forieng army?. rIght ,shariif may have saved his goveverment, Even things was going bad Amison for last few days. HA HA! You understand that the man was being guarded by AMISOM soldiers when he was saying what he said and that he traveled on a Ugandan tank to Dayniile in the same hour, right? That is the benefit of the foreign soldiers! It might not taste good in the mouth but the truth is Somalia needs foreign help at the moment. It needs Uganda, it needs Burundi, and it needs KENYA! These Africans are the lesser evil, remember the other option Somalia has today. Godane and his Pakistanis is the worst of all options.

Al-Shabaab have nothing to do with these explosions said the Kenyan police. Booliiska dalka Kenya ayaa shaaca ka qaadday in baaritaan hordhac ah oo la sameeyey uu muujinayo in Xarakada Al-Shabaab aysan wax lug ah ku laheyn qaraxii bambaano ee xalay ka dhacay magaalada Nairobi. Shir saxaafadeed uu qabtay galabta taliyaha booliiska Kenya Mathew Iteere ayuu ka sheegay in aysan heyn ifafaalooyin iyo calaamado muujinayo in Shabaabka Somalia ay fuliyeen qaraxan, wuxuuna intaas ku daray in bambaada club-ka lagu tuuray ay aheyd nooc uu sameeyey dalka Ruushka. ''Ma heyno ilaa hadda wax muujinayo in Al-Shabaab ka dambeeyeen qaraxa, hase yeeshee baaritaannada ayaan sii wadi doonaa ilaa aan xaqiiq rasmi ah ka helno waxa dhacay'', ayuu yiri Iteere oo ka codsaday shacabka in ay la shaqeeyaan ciidamada booliiska si loo xaqiijiyo amniga. Dadweynaha ku dhaqan caasimadda ayaa wax iska weydiinayey tan iyo maanta qaraxa oo ku soo beegmay waqti xasaasi ah oo hanjabaado ku wajahan geysashada weerarro isqarxin ah ay soo yeereen dhawaantan. Gedoweb News Desk

oba hiloowlow;753663 wrote: Afkaaga caano lagu qabay goldcoast, dadyahow waa muran badan tihiin mays tiraahdeen Zack and the lasagna supporters if sheikh shariif signed a agreement with kenya so bandhiga, anigu koley hadal igama maqli doontin regarding this issue its clear,ee dadow hadal yuusan fakanin taariikhda xusi doonto xaqiiqda, for now aynu aragno sidey xaaladu noqoto Waxaa yaab iyo amakaag how low some people are when it comes to taking positions in the Somali politics. Oba, Miyaadan ahayn the starter of this thread? http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/59518-Howlgallada-2011-final-battle oo aadan odhan hadalkan hoos ku qoran? oba hiloowlow;751769 wrote: JB kenya ba dan baa ugu jirto ciribtirka shabaab marka kaalintooda dagaal waa soo dhaweyneena.. Let me tell you something, please stop following indivuals' stances and make your own objective observations on the Somali issues and base your opinions on that ama iska aamus. Waxa qaarkii waa embarrassment. Just because Shariif changed his position, you too don't have to. Goldcoast, did you even read this part of my post? A, if he is against the incursion, he should've said so in the first place and he shouldn't have agreed to the written pact. B, He should oppose this in a proper legal way, contact the UN. Terrible, terrible and weak president! For your information, the western countries you mentioned don't live side by side with Al-Shabaab, they don't share a 1k kilometer long border with khawaariij group that kill for fun. Kenya is doing the right thing destroying Shabaab's bases in the Jubba and Gedo areas.The last soft side I had for these Keligii Muslims was gone by the day they killed 60 Somali innocent children and claimed it arrogantly. For those of you who are fast giving credit to Shariif Canbe for this late and questionable protest, please note that he is against the Kenyan incursion because he opposes Azania. If Kenya agrees not to create/help the creation of Azania, the Sharif will be more than happy with the Kenyan military actions. Just saying.

Abwaan;753648 wrote: Kenyan forces should not have been allowed in Somalia. They should secure their beaches and country within, not cross into a Somali territory. LOL For real? If one is attacking your home, you will stay defensive all the time yaah? Commons sense would disagree, common sense would say attack and attack harder and destroy the heck out of your enemy. Dhinaca kale, it is amazing how incompetent our so called president is. First he supports the Kenyan incursion, welcomes Kenyan ministers to his house, and all of the sudden makes a statement that nobody has an idea of where it came from. Wey kasoo fakatay duqa. A, if he is against the incursion, he should've said so in the first place and he shouldn't have agreed to the written pact. B, He should oppose this in a proper legal way, contact the UN. Did anybody actually listen to Yusuf Haji's outburst on the BBC? "Maybe Shariifka supports Al-Shabaab" kulahaa :D