NGONGE, The khaatumo clan sat down and decided to discuss what they really want to do with their state, the garaads, the issimo, the culimaa were there. They decided whatever they decided. It's up to them it it works or fails, the concern we have here is simple. One clan doesn't tell another clan what to do with their towns. Why is it difficult the SL clan to understand that simple logic. These people have spoken and they have spoken very clear and loud, they don't want to have anything with SL. There are some of them that are still in hargeisa and what so but you and I both know where the majority stand . The arrogance part of yours is obvious, you implied the Khatumo people are inferior and are not capable to have and manage their own state. If SL did it, what makes you think that Khatumo can't? Keep in mind this community is now more united than they have ever been.

Che he said Khatumo is going to end on its own way no need to attack, I read that as against the war even though he is trying to despise a whole community.

NGONGE, lool yes that is enough. Even though you spoke with SL arrogance, you are still against the war. The latter is what is important. Xaaji, I am sorry you already told us your position, you are for forcefully occupying Khatumo even if lives are being taken. If you want to change position, you will have to tell us that in a better way than "I am co signing what somebody else said".

Mukulaalow;781440 wrote: oh shariif, not again. I know right! It is him again. Xaaji, one doesn't expect you to comprehend the disrespect we are discussing here. You are used to Siilaanyo being welcomed by non-existing world leaders marka tanaa kula weyn. You are excused.

Thanks Narniah, Blue and all others who objectively stated their positions on this dirty war on Khaatumo. Carafaat, there is nothing clannish about my stance. I thought you were against this war as you stated in your thread "Not in my name". This thread pretty much agrees with your thread, not sure what the fuss is all about? Mise you were lying to us on that thread and you really support Siilaanyo's aggression. Do clarify these things for us, will ya? aside note for those who posted emotional and clannish non-sense, please take that BS to where it belongs to. If you support this war, kindly say so and tell us why you support the killings of innocent Somalis. Thanks!

^Agreed. On the top of his naivety on a lot of things, the guy had 0 experience on literally any thing. He has been promoted from ..well I don't know.. maybe from average Xaayow in xamar to the president of the nation. The fact that he had zero impact on anything is self-explanatory, one can say.

Jacphar, point taken. MMA, dagaalka waa laba qeyb, midna waa weerar midna waa is difaac. Kan weerarka ah waa khalad khalad dhalay. Difaacista dhib uma arko xitaa hadduu yahay dagaal sokeeyo. Walaalkey gurigaaga xog baan kaaga qaadan ama kugu xukumi kama yeelahayo. EDIT: I am glad you are against the whole thing.

^LOL I knew someone would call me out on the Abdullahi comment. looooooooooooooool@escalators. He has made some progress hadduuba AMISOM la'aan escalator-ka kori karo.

^I like how you are looking at the bigger picture but I still enjoy taking a shot at Mr. Canbe LOL. Somaliya ha noolaato!

Aaliyyah;781211 wrote: I think stoic should directly say what silanyo is doing is wrong . But then I guess he's from somaliland and that's where his loyalty lies and this is the best he can be Lakin zack I dnt know why you think silanyo is being forced into anything tariikhda dib u dalac walaal silanyo is the father of somaliland waa ninka dalka burburiyay so he can one day call himself president..and of course ppl in those three cities support him..dadku xasuqayo in the ssc regions happy bay ku wada yihiin oo waa kuwa u mudaharadaya but dnt ever second guess that old dhigyacab. Salaam Aaliyah, Hadalada Siilaanyo si fiican u dhageyso, anigu taariikhdiisa saas uma aqaano, laakin Somalida dagaalka ku dhawaaqdo ama weynu leyneynaa ku hantaatacdo ma aha. Kolleey intaan ka arkay. Si kastaba ha ahaatee he is accountable to all that is being done in Khaatumo, he is a criminal today. Hoostaa laga soo riixayaa ninka, Jacelybaro iyo Xaaji Xundhuf oo miidhan buu talo la wadaagaa.

OK, that Abdullahi comment was a joke. We are not weak, hana caayin, Shariif Canbe is weak.

Ninyahow dad Somali ah baa weerar ku socdaa oo dagaal xun baa ka socda meesha adna sawiro "beach" baad nooga sheekeyn? At least move it to the general section. We are mourning here. THanks!

Somalia;781208 wrote: I like the guy, he seems cool, he's useful. As for this, I don't find it to be bad. Are you kidding me? Abdullahi Yusuf would have never tolerated this kind of mistreatment. He would be like "Nigga! I am going to back to Mogadisu!!!" LOL

Dervish;781199 wrote: Not only am I against it but I'm willing to beat the crap out of the next openly lander person I see this week. I'm on a rampage out here. LOOOL. I am glad you are against it. Is deji, a lander in Minneapolis (or whereever in the qurbaha you live) is not responsible for these atrocities. Haddaad run sheegi Buuhoodle is keen, dhulka hooyo difaac

Jacpher;781198 wrote: Zack: from this; to this; No doubt you're a man of pain but which pain? The innocent lives lost or Siilaanyo's pain for choosing a war. Carabkaaga iyo dhagahaaga ma is maqlaan sxb? Jacphar, Those statement don't contradict each other in no way, shape or form. It is a weekend, why is your brain still dead? OK here, let me clarify things... Siilaanyo, in my opinion, is not doing this based on his own judgement and decisions. SL has her own version of the American tea party, folks like Waraabe, Suldaamada and "cuqaasha". Those people have clearly told Siilaanyo, you do this or else... Meesha Ugaaska dagaal ku baqaayo. Therefore Siilaanyo reacted to the threats coming to his way from his own people. Thus I feel his pain. Nevertheless, Siilaanyo is responsible for any crimes committed in Khaatumo because it is he, not the tea party, who is on top helm. It is he who is making these orders, not the young men on the front lines. P.s. What is your position? This is the thread to declare positions... just because you are beel or meel fulaan, we are not going to assume you are agains/for it.

So when a "president" visits another country who normally receives them at the airport? Another president, PM, or whoever is the most powerful in that country, right? Well you don't get that kind of grace when you are a Somali president any more. Or maybe let me rephrase that statement, you only get disrespected when your name starts with ...Shariif Canbe. Shariifka visited Addis Ababa and Meles didn't even bother to show up at the airport. Instead he sent his "minister of labor", a Somali dude who was kicked out the Xisbiga Jigjiga heysta ee qashinka ah. Well oh well... let's see the pictures now as they all say, picture speaker louder than words, maybe it was actions but you got the point. This explains why his cheerleaders in SOL never bothered to show us his vacation pictures as they are well known to do.

AfricaOwn;781193 wrote: Is all politics, example: the pirates are clearly against the Buuhoodle incidents, but celebrated for Abdullahi Yusuf when he brought the Ethiopians to slaughter the people of the south. The pirates are not from specific qabiil. And what does what the pirates got to do with this? :confused: P.s. You haven't answered my earlier question. You can either be for it or against it.

STOIC, Just as I thought, you made a whole a lot of sense on your response. Nobody should support this regardless of their political stance. I agree with you the debate for "Is Khaatumo part of Somaliland?" or "What should Somaliland do about Khatumo?" is for another day when these kinds of attacks are occurring day in day out. I feel Siilaany's pain, he is under attack by his own and he is somehow being forced to do things he might not have done otherwise but still..

It is not about politics, this about innocent people being killed. Answer this simple question, are you for these kiilings or are you against them?

One wonders what STOIC's position is on this. What would Nin Yaaban say? Che is against it?

^Aha. There it is. Self defense is a must regardless who the attacker is.