burahadeer;736792 wrote: and noticed everyone leaves once you get in any thread This clearly shows your childish utter. didn't you realised, am not everyone? That's ur ultimate goal, to stop intellectual exchange surely, what is intellectual in failing to respect the religion of others? calling the believe of others barbaric is intellectual? it is easy said than done.

.Other day I asked many questions,one of which is the following: We all know Quran says that hand of thieves must be amputated.we as muslims in somalia knew all along but neva practised upto today(ofc with exception of less than 20% shabab controls).They don't practice in any muslim country except saudi arabia.We all know people refused to accept & seen as barbaric& as I mentioned earlier it's in Quran.Then why not follow quran!There r many otha scenarios like that. atleast you stated the reason. don't you seem to see that? also know that, there is a difference between a muslim and islam.

.People r silenced any time discussion about science or polotical ideology is put forward this is not true. the problem is you are not straight in your head, beacuse you haphazardly put words and expect a gentle discussion. Religion has become mechanism to outmaneuver anything & almost everything this is really the purpose of religion.

PART FOUR mountains play a similar role to a nail or peg firmly holding down a tent, which has been discovered by modern geological and seismic research, a concept known as isostasy.ix In conclusion, how can we explain this in the light of the fact that this is relatively recent science (with no one at the time of the revelation knowing this information)? What does this tell you about the author? Again, there is no naturalistic explanation. Is Life Absurd without God? The writer Loren Eiseley said that man is a cosmic orphan. This is quite profound, as man is the only creature in the universe who asks: why? Other animals have instincts to guide them, but man has learned to ask questions. If many of these questions raised by man exclude God then the conclusion is simple: we are the accidental byproducts of nature, a result of matter plus time plus chance. There is no reason for your existence and all we face is death. Modern man thought that when he had got rid of God, he had freed himself from all that repressed and stifled him. Instead, he discovered that in killing God, he had also killed himself. If there is no God, then man and the universe are doomed. Like prisoners condemned to death we await our unavoidable execution. What is the consequence of this? It means that life itself is absurd. It means that the life we have is without ultimate significance, value, or purpose. For example, according to the atheist worldview this life is purposeless, or at best, just assembled to propagate our DNA. The way some atheists get out of this is by saying we can create purpose for ourselves, however this is a self-delusion as we try and find some purpose by attributing purpose to the things we do in life, but remove purpose from our very own lives. Also, without God our lives do not have any ultimate meaning. If our ends are the same, in that we just pass out of existence, what meaning does that give our lives? Does it even matter if we existed at all? If the universe was never in existence what difference would it make? Existentialists such as Jean-Paul Sartre and Albert Camus understood the meaningless reality of life in absence of acknowledging the purpose of our existence. This is why Sartre wrote of the “nausea” of existence and Camus saw life as absurd, indicating that the universe has no meaning at all. The German Philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche argued in clear concise pronouncements that the world and human history do not have any meaning, any rational order or aim. Nietzsche argued that there is only a mindless chaos, a directionless world tending towards no end. It is not wonder the philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer said he would have wished the world never existed. All of these views on the world are absurd conclusions carved by the atheist world view.

PART THREE If you cannot do this – and you never will – then beware of the fire prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones.”iv This challenge refers to the various wonders in the Qur’an, even within its smallest chapter, that give us good reasons to believe it is from God. Some of these reasons are historical and scientific. Historical... There are many historical statements in the Qur’an that show us good reasons that it is from God. One of them is that the Qur’an is the only religious text to use different titles for the rulers of Egypt at different times. For instance while addressing the Egyptian ruler, at the time of Prophet Yusuf (Joseph), the word “Al-Malik” is used which refers to a king (note: that during the middle old kingdom Hyksos Asiatic families were governing Egypt and they did not use the title Pharaoh, as the Qur’an mentions “The King said, 'Bring him to me straight away!’”).v In contrast, the ruler of Egypt at the time of the Prophet Musa (Moses) is referred to as Pharaoh, in Arabic “Firaown”. This particular title began to be employed in the 14th century B.C., during the reign of Amenhotep IV. This is confirmed by the Encyclopaedia Britannica which states that the word Pharaoh was a title of respect used from the New Kingdom (beginning with the 18th dynasty; B.C. 1539-1292) until the 22nd dynasty (B.C. 945-730). So the Qur’an is historically accurate as the Prophet Yusuf lived at least 200 years before that time, and the word “King” was used for the Hyksos kings, not Pharaoh. In light of this, how could have the Prophet Muhammad known such a minute historical detail? Especially when all the other religious texts, such as the Bible, just mention Pharaoh as a title for all times? Also, since people at the time of the revelation did not know this information and hieroglyphs were a dead language, what does this say about the authorship of the Qur’an? There is no naturalistic explanation. Scientific... The Qur’an always mentions nature as a sign for God’s existence, power and majesty. Every time these are mentioned, they are expressed with a great accuracy, and they also give us information that could have never been known at the time of the Prophet Muhammad. One of these signs includes the function and structure of mountains. The Qur’an mentions that mountains have “peg” like structures and that they have been embedded into earth to stabilise it, a concept known in Geology as isostasy. The Qur’an mentions: “We placed firmly embedded mountains on the earth, so it would not move under them…”vi and “Have We not made the earth as a bed and the mountains its pegs?”vii The Qur’an’s eloquent renderings of the facts mentioned above are confirmed by modern science which only came to be understood by the end of the 20th Century. In the book Earth, by Dr. Frank Press, former president of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences, states that mountains are like stakes, and are buried deep under the surface of Earth.viii With regards to the vital role of mountains, it was formerly understood that mountains were merely protrusions rising above the surface of Earth. However, scientists realised that this was not actually the case, and that the parts known as the mountain roots extended down as far as 10 to 15 times their own height. With these features,

PART TWO The cause for the universe must be a single cause for several reasons. An attractive argument to substantiate this claim includes the use of the rational principle called Occam’s razor. This principle is commonly summarised as “the simplest explanation is the best explanation”. In philosophical terms the principle enjoins that we should not multiply entities beyond necessity. What this basically means is that we should stick to explanations that do not create more questions than it answers. In the case of the cause for the universe we have no evidence to claim multiplicity, in other words more than one, and if we did it would create more questions than it answers. Uncaused & Eternal... This cause must also be uncaused due to the absurdity of an infinite regress, in other words an indefinite chain of causes. To illustrate this better, if the cause of the universe had a cause and that cause had a cause ad infinitum, then there wouldn’t be a universe to talk about in the first place. For example, imagine if a Stock Trader on a trading floor at the Stock Exchange was not able to buy or sell his stocks or bonds before asking permission from the investor, and then this investor had to check with his, and this went on forever, would the Stock Trader ever buy or sell his stocks or bonds? The answer is no. In similar light, if we apply this to the universe we would have to posit an uncaused cause due to this rational necessity. However, some philosophers and scientists claim that “why doesn’t the cause be the universe itself?” and “why can’t the cause stop at the universe?” Well, the problem with these claims is that they would imply the universe created itself, which is absurd because how can anything exist and not exist at the same time? Finally, it would be irrational to claim that whatever begins to exist causes itself! Immaterial... The cause has to be immaterial since it created everything. If you were to take any state of physical existence, you would come to the conclusion that, that state of physical existence owes itself to another state of physical existence. And that state of physical existence, owes itself to another state of physical existence. But you can’t go back states of physical existences ad infinitum. There has to be a beginning to the entire state of physical existences. Therefore, the logical conclusion is that the origin of all creation has to be a non- physical state. After thinking about the nature of the cause for the universe we come to the remarkable realisation that it has all the basic attributes of the traditional monotheistic God, namely that He is one, eternal and immaterial. But what reasons do we have to start claiming that a particular religion is true? This leads us to discuss the Qur’an, the book of the Muslims. The Qur’an The Qur’an is no ordinary book. It has been described by many, who engage with the book, as an imposing text, but the way it imposes itself on the reader is not negative, rather it is positive. This is because it seeks to positively engage with your mind and your emotions, and it achieves this by asking profound questions, such as “So where are you people going? This is a message for all people; for those who wish to take the straight path.”ii and “Have they not thought about their own selves?”iii However, the Qur’an doesn’t stop there, it actually challenges the whole of mankind with regards to its divine authorship, it boldly states “If you have doubts about the revelation we have sent down to Our servant, then produce a single chapter like it – enlist whatever supporters you have other than God – if you truly think you can.

Do We Have Good Reasons to Believe? Why is the universe the way it is? One of the most important questions that almost all thinkers, philosophers and people like you and I have asked is “Why does the universe exist at all? And why is it the way it is?” In response to this question there are those who say that the universe is uncaused, in other words it is eternal, meaning it has no beginning and no end. If this is true, there should be an infinite history of past events. However, the infinite in the real world is not possible as it implies a quantity that is limitless. Let’s take the following examples into consideration: if there were an infinite number of books in a room and two were taken away, how many would be left? The response may be “infinity” or for those who are logically inclined “infinity minus two”. In any case, the responses don’t make sense because although two have been taken away from infinity there still remains infinity! Consequently, we’re not able to count the remaining books left in the room. Therefore the infinite leads to contradictions and simply doesn’t exist in the real world (although it exists in mathematical discourse; however it is based upon certain axioms and conventions). Therefore, it logically follows that the universe must have a finite history of past events, which indicates that it must have begun to exist at some point in time. The above may sound too philosophical, but it is also supported by scientific evidence, for instance, Stephen Hawking, in his lecture The Beginning of Time states, “The conclusion of this lecture is that the universe has not existed forever. Rather, the universe, and time itself, had a beginning in the Big Bang, about 15 billion years ago.”i According to contemporary cosmologists, the universe began at time zero with the event commonly called the “Big Bang”. The theory postulates that the universe began as a “singularity”, an extremely hot and dense entity that expanded and subsequently cooled, going from something incredibly small and hot to the current size and temperature of our universe. In light of these facts, it is interesting to note that there is no scientific explanation as to what happened before time zero. In addition to this, the Big Bang theory can only postulate what happened 1 x 10-34 seconds after the Big Bang but not anytime before it. What happened before this particular point in time is unknown. In the context of the above discussion, it can be concluded that generally physicists agree that as a result of the Big Bang, physical time and space were created as were energy and matter. So two premises can be drawn from all the above: 1. Whatever begins to exist has a cause 2. The universe began to exist - Therefore the universe has a cause. How do we get to this conclusion? Well, if everything we know and see that begins to exist has a cause, for example a noise in the room or the pyramids at Giza, then the universe - which also began to exist - must also have a cause. The Cause for the Universe = God? Our discussion so far has provided good reasons to believe that there must have been a cause for the universe. However, this doesn’t tell us much about what the cause is, but if we think deeply about the nature of the cause - also known as conceptual analysis - we can conclude that it must be very powerful as it brought into existence the entire universe, and it must be: One... http://www.hamzatzortzis.com/LeafletDoWeHaveGoodReasonsToBelieve.pdf

the best traits to look for in the right man that can make a good husband are: 1)xusnul khuluq( good natured) however broad the character traits are, the litmus test for best character, squarely lies within the frame of anger and tolerance. you can say with ease, so and so is a good person just by knowing him being a simple man who controls his anger . hintthis can be deduced from the kind of relation fibre that exists between him and his close family relatives. if a man is disobedient to his parents, there are minimal chances he will be obedient to you. 2) knowledgeable the man should at least know some portions of the diin and practise the little he knows.(the secular education is but a secondary) better a man who knows little and practises that which he knows than a very educated fellow who practises not what he knows. i shall say more insha allah

@aaliyyah, walashiis, arinku sheikhnimo ma ehee, waa diinta islamka. inaad deeysay ayeey ila eheed?. lakiin insha allah, you will. ninkaadow, maogtahay, in xitaa dadka qamriga kucabaayo baarka lagula hadli karo, even inside the pub? p.s. since this thread will live long after our death, it might haunt anyone of us who posted a music video as long dad kale eey dhageesanaayaan. allah hanoo sahlo inaan fahano xumaanta music-ta. allahuma amiin.

the biggest mistake some make is, the idea of courtship. while at higher education, some gentlemen befriend girls in the name of 'girlfriend' 'boyfriend' relationship and if asked what they are up to, ''future potential wife-husband'' wont escape your ears. this kind of a relationship is bound to fail in entirety simply because, it doesn't hold any ethical support. here am implying that, a friendship is a lethal mental poison for the youngsters for a relationship to be a successful, it should be based on one thing and just one thing. and that is, the sincere intention of marriage, packed with at least the means; however little that is. p.s. for campus girls: did you noticed that some men a womanisers, hanging around with almost every girl, cracking in jokes supplemented with a loud laughter?? some of them,made the clever girl drop out of the uni just because they were so nice to her.

allah hau dambi dhaafo marxuumada. if anyone is seriously caring, let him/her burn down all her songs, may be, by doing so, you are doing her the utmost favour a human can offer her. nb: the songs will haunt her soul after her dealth. islamically

ar xaajiyow miyaadan ogeyn: siyaasadan badan wexeey halis kutahay hadafka nolashaada.

give and take policy. shall give you the meals, only to soil it up at the second bite. this is what the somali secular elite don't understand in clarity. thanks for sharing nur

still doing the same mistake. i wonder how you else will one tell my pain without feeling it? were you me before. falsehood won't go far. the same with evolution. p.s. i really think, jb and vol =the same person

if the aim is to be humble to the good men, so be it.

since marriage has got more impact on the women than men, they have got to, at least go the extra mile in knowing who the real man is. this is only possible by getting back to his family and not friends. a family member who knows the man well, is the right person to turn to. that information will be a treasure either to retreat or go on with the plan. the character is mainly gauged by anger and not eloquence in speech. though the latter is what most women depend on. equally important, there's a very big difference between a man being religious and being good natured(xusnul khuluq). the two are mutually independent, albeit they can be together.

@jb, do u knw which of the two sites owns the original article???

@voltaire, i didnt represent you, atleast. i was talking for myself. So, plz dont come on board. Having said that, its high time to appreciate the fact that, evolution is not scientific leave alone being a science. and that is known to all the sciencetist, who have faith. infact its wrong to think of it as science. P.s.'science of evolution' doesnt not exist at all. May be to atheist.

xarfaanko aabo soo qoronaa aakhiro. walee nin aakhiro joogo inuusan hees ku-kabeyeen.

some say they want ramadaanka inuu qabto because the weather at Africa is hot and the experience is quite hard. others talk of masaajids and want to do taraweeh and tahajud at ictikaaf. also others want to avoid the dumarka qaqaawan aragtidooda, and at least take a break for a month. p.s. are you planning to go anywhere? curious

oH!! i was told you don't need to be superwomen. even the simple one's can. it is the courage and the commitment that matter. the dream life in Africa is perfect but many miss it. by the way, what makes you frightened with the thought????? may be an experience?lol. dont know

then refrigerate your eggs too, lol. just joking. lakiin, don't you think wholeheartedly can go with multi-tasking?

This is the source. all he did was to copy paste. in literature, using the work of a someone, without attributing to him/her is called plagiarism http://www.dawn.com/2011/07/03/complex-islamic-response-to-evolution-emerges-from-study.html

from the end of the learned gentlemen and ladies of our generation, marriage clicks at a later age in their life, mostly from 30 yrs. this policy is mainly put in perspective by the fact that we see marriage from the monetary perspective. this mainly is the men's view. they think, before even discussing about marriage, they should first save enough money in their bank accounts and only after that is the right time. however this is good, it doesn't fail to affect negatively the course of marriage. this comes from the fact that, there is no standard saving rate for marriage. the amount differs from one individual to another. hence, since when will you save, and how much? it may also render one see marriage exclusively from monetary angle, hence make him/her materialistic. p.s. marrying our girls/daughters at early age is recommendable

if only jb looks into religion with unbiased eye, he will finally land in one. its evident enough, no man can live without religion.