JB, It is possible especially in Africa where we use kits with buffers whichare also temperature sensitive. There are cases of both false positive and negatives.False positives, blamed on the buffers, quantity of blood droplets and also temperature swaying of the fridges due to power prolems. Ive also witnessed positives using the kits but when the confirmation test is done its negative.Diseases like malaria and Tb were the culprits. So, maybe that ladies results werent positive after all if the confirmation test(Elisa) wasnt done. A luxury these days in africa but a must do. With negatives you are adviced to re-do the test after 6 months. Why? You can be in the window period, your body hasnt responded to the Virus in your body. So at the 1st reading a seronegative using a kit is not confirmatory. You really need to do the second to be sure. But with the positives they have to be checked with a reliable test(ELISA) before telling the person she/he is positive. In Tz 2 different kit tests are done - capillus and rapid then ELISA is done to confirm then your told Your POSITIVE. Wonder what they use in Somalia? Asante Munira, it happened almost 6 months ago. A nurse pricked me when we had taken a blood sample from a neonate and she wsa putting it into a container, it was an accident. Serostatus of the mother and child werent known. So had to wait for 24hrs to know if they were positive or negative though my status had to be checked too,hospital protocol. The baby was very sick had bad chest and passed away before the results were out. In the morning I felt so bad, looking at the helpless mother telling her Alhamdullilah they were seronegative when she had just lost her Son- Kariim in the wee hours of the morning. I learnt later that the night team were gossiping about our mishap than paying an extra eye on the baby. I wonder how she felt. I hated waiting for those 24hrs which was unnecesary. Another unprofessional move due to the fact that it was a weekend and the person concerned had locked the kits and gone with the keys. Alhamdullilah the results were a releif. Though,the physician on call was reluctanct to start me on the mandatory ARVs to be taken within the 1st 72hrs due to the negative results. "You will face side effects of the drugs which are worser than anything you can imagine". I still have to be screened after 6months of the incident. And, its drawing near.

Im about to get married and Inshallah we are planning to get tested. Though I have the higher risk of getting the disease than him due to my profession (Plus had a needle accident). I hate the waiting part.

Im glad to see people like Taguba exist in the sytem, willing to sacrifice their careers for the truth. Aaachaye kweli huirudia : He who leaves behind truth, returns to it.(Swahili proverb)

Salaam, Bro Nur JZK for putting it in perspective and clarity. Another and better way of looking at the problem, asante Akhi.

Forgot to add www.islambasics.com

Greed,greed, greed the chain doesnt end. And who gets hurt the weak. I hope they the children will forget their trauma.

Salaam Beleive this information will be beneficial in this topic. There is an online program which trains Muslims on how to become daais and know their religion. A challenge I beleive any nomad can take. The word WISDOM does not only stand for knowledge but also an acronym for World Islamic Service for Developing Outstanding Muslims (WISDOM). The Wisdom Enrichment International Learning Program on Islamic Studies and Personality Development aims, among others, at educating Muslims and interested non-Muslims with authentic knowledge of Islam. Participants who will succeed in completing all the WISDOM learning modules are expected to have the right aqeedah (belief) and/or eeman (faith), develop the characteristics expected of Muslims according to the Qur'an and the Sunnah, and do righteous deeds for the pleasure of Allah. In this way, they will be able to do Da'wah (inviting people to Islam), enjoin the right and forbid the wrong so that in the sight of Allah the Almighty they become outstanding Muslims. They will be among those successful Muslims who will attain Allah's everlasting reward. WISDOM To New beginnings!

Wa Iyaaki brother, Here is a link you will enjoy even more as a source of guidance.ideal muslims An extract from one of the books The Muslim Family’s Role in Building a Righteous Society By Nazia Abbas December 31, 2001 (Sawwal 16, 1422), Riyadh, Saudi Arabia The Author is a Master of Arts (in Islamic Studies) degree holder. She is originally from Pakistan and presently residing in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia as a dependent of her husband. The enlightening article is one of the requirements that she submitted as a participant to the World Islamic Service for Developing Outstanding Muslims (WISDOM) International Islamic (Distance) Learning Program. We, the organizers of the Wisdom Enrichment Foundation (WEFOUND), pray to Allah the Almighty to accept her effort as a good deed, worthy of His Rewards especially in the life Hereafter. May Allah accept this also as a service from us and bless it as a source of enlightenment to Muslims and non-Muslims alike. Ameen. Islam is the only perfect way of life. It enjoins the maintenance of a refined standard of character. It can solve all human problems. It is the only hope for overcoming the present and future challenges of life. The future of Islam is the future of humanity. Islam commands righteousness and forbids wrong doings and evil deeds. In other words, it commands all noble morals and forbids all ill and despicable manners. It is the complete guidance towards righteousness, and hence, success. What we need only is to practice it. The most valued virtues of a Muslim include truthfulness, and justice; helping the poor and the needy; respecting parents, scholars, teachers and elders; love and kindness for children, the widows and the poor. Likewise, it prohibits blasphemy, murders, terrorism, oppression, injustice, enmity, misery, adultery, drug addiction, suicide, graft and corruption, interest, slander, backbiting, lying, ridicule, use of offensive names suspicion, arrogance, and all evil deeds. Islam had come to illuminate the lives of the people with the light of virtues and good manners to create righteous, God-loving and God-fearing people. It develops its believers, the Muslims, with the best of characters and fills their hearts with much devotion to the One True God, Allah. It inspires the Believers with Allah’s guidance and rewards to those who do righteous deeds and show devotion to Him. Muslims who know Islam believe in what Allah the Exalted says in the Qur’an on the virtues and rewards of righteousness: “As for those who strive hard in Us (our Cause), We will surely, guide them to Our paths (i.e., Allah’s religion-Islamic Monotheism). And verily, Allah is with the Muhsinun (good doers) .” (Qur’an 29: 69) “And the Garden will be brought nigh to the Righteous, ¾ no more a thing distant. (A voice will say:) `This is what was promised for you for every penitent heedful one, who feared the Most Gracious unseen, and brought a heart turned in devotion (to Him): Enter you therein in Peace and Security; this is a Day of Eternal Life!’ There will be for them therein all that they wish and there is more with Us.’” (Qur’an 50:31-35) They further believe that Islam is the Right Religion from Allah. They know that it is the Straight way that guides us to be righteous and attain success, especially supreme success in the eternal life Hereafter. In one succinct and very enlightening verse Allah explains the full meaning of righteousness as follows: “It is not righteousness that you turn your faces (in prayer) towards East or West; but it is righteousness to believe in God, and the Last Day, and the Angels and the Book, and the Messengers; to spend of your wealth-- in spite of your love for your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the way farer, for those who ask and the ransom of slaves; to be steadfast in prayer and practice regular charity; to fulfill the contracts which you have made; and to be firm and patient, in all pain and adversity, and through out all periods of panic. Such are the people of truth, the God-minded.’’ (Qur’an 2: 177) Allah the Almighty guides the whole mankind to be righteous through His Book, the Qur’an and His Messenger, the Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam, meaning: peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). In His Book, Allah emphasizes the need for righteousness and the rewards that He promises to those who do righteous deeds. Those among mankind who believe in Allah and do righteous deeds reap Allah’s Mercy as they shall have a great reward. Allah the Most Gracious and Most Merciful says: “Verily this Qur’an guides to that which is most just and right and gives glad tidings to the believers who works deeds of righteousness, that they shall have a great reward.” (Qur’an 17 : 9) “We indeed created man in the best of moulds, then do we abase him (to be) the lowest of the low, except such as those who believe and do righteous deeds, for they shall have a reward unfailing.” (Qur’an 95: 4-6) Islam penetrates into all walks of life to conduct all human activities in a sound and wholesome manner, acceptable to God and beneficial to man. The manifestation of power and splendor, which are considered so important for the people in this world, will be of no value to Allah. In the Hereafter, Allah will judge a person by his faith, devotion and piety. It is, therefore, essential that we should concentrate on the reformation of our own hearts, minds and souls by sincerely turning to Allah for His Mercy through firm belief and obedience as these are parts of righteousness. Let us take guidance from the following authentic Ahâdîth: Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-'As Abdullah heard Allah’s Messenger (sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) as saying: “Verily, the hearts of all the sons of Adam are between the two fingers out of the fingers of the Compassionate Rabb (Cherisher and Sustainer) as one heart. He turns that to any (direction) He likes.” Then Allah’s Messenger (sallallahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) said: “O Allah, the Turner of the hearts, turn our hearts to Your obedience.” (Muslim 6418)

Good question and I beleive youve answered it if your talking of what Hamas did to al Fatah, The Iraqi Muslims helping the americans fight fellow Iraqi Muslims.Though a group of people will always be innocent, the old, women and children.

^^^Surely she had her reasons. We were earlier told her biological clock was ticking away now told she is in her mid 20's :confused: Interesting ramblings. Advice to your freind and Muslimahs.The Ideal Muslimah and her husband Hope your friend makes the right choices and her new marriage works out. Salaam

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Northerner, Jazkhallah kheir for the articles. Ive come across an article I would like to share.Had me crying out of guilt, my own failure todate havent memorised the Quraan here is a loving Muslim devising a system for her daughter to memorise the quraan at a tender age of 5yrs mashallah.It all sums down to commitment, mashallah. For those interested you can download it from islaam websites free books then click on how to memorise the quraan at age 7 and dont forget to copy the password youve got to register online to use the program.You can also find some other online books to download there to.

^^Amin

Salaam the one and only, Yes, that hadith exists. And its valid. It all melts down to the idea of Muslim brotherhood, we shouldnt harm each other and should be comforters amongst ourselves. We are adviced not to call each other bad nicknames, taunt each other as starters.. Why because in doing so you could hurt your brothers feeling or cause rancour to crawl into his heart - an opening to Shaytan and his whispering We should love and support one another. Because once anger, hate or rage sets in we (humans) can forget of our affiliation and take revenge or kill. Islam has strict rulings on this matter instead of taking revenge, it teaches humility to forgive or give blood money to save blood of another muslim to be spilt.(Suratil Qisas) As for those two who kill each other in rage both are entitled to enter fire. As there are directives in how to solve disputes and the first in any matter is sit, take ablution(udhu) and wait for the anger to overcome you. Then think on solving the dispute democratically including people from both sides. Its better to die without raising your blade than take that challenge.Its not about manly bravado, question is have you the right to kill a fellow human being and a brother? Islam is practical and for man. It is against unnecessary bloodsheding especially if its caused due to mans whims,pride and desires. Sit, solve it compromise and move on, we are all brothers and deserve to live in peace and harmony. And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allah and be not divided among yourselves, and remember Allah's Favor on you, for you were enemies to one another but He joined your hearts together, so that, by His Grace, you became brethren ..."Holy Quraan 3:103. I hope this helps. Salaam WOL

Im one of those who likes the colourful abayas and scarves and don them, I also wear the black one too and for the last 2 weeks been experimenting with a niqaab. My theory aslong as it covers you, subtle colours as in doesnt draw everyones attention Im game. I need some colour in my life. Something I appreciated when I lived in Turkey colour among the Muslimahs was on and they looked and felt great. The world should know we exist and not oppressed. My advice just dont overdo the Bold colours, it will no longer be hijab/modest.

Certainly, they exist or else this topic wouldnt be posted. Problem is love is blind, femme. You may give her valuable advice and she want take heed. New adventure leading to another twist> live and learn the hard way. Well, life is what you make of it, its all about choices. c'est la vie! la vie est pleine de surprises!

Lol@Ngonge Xanthus, Well they had it at the leisure of their home. They used to take turns hosting each other.

Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^ I quit smoking two years ago. (Shiisha does not count). Why do they all say that? "Shiisha doesnt count." Most of my male friends dont smoke but they do love their shiisha. As far as I remember it has tobacco even if it smells of apple or cinnamon.

This book was signed by him when he visited Toronto. There is no Nuruddin Farah books in my locality.Save this one a present. When I first read her Book(Desert flower) I couldnt beleive what she wrote. Met people with a somewhat similar stories. Cant judge her as in was the book really depicting her life. All I can say instead of making me proud, she failed me as a Somali woman. I felt unworthy and non existant in this world. So Im not planning 2 pick up any of her other books unless Im very desperate- no book around or anything to busy my eyes with.

Salaam Bro. Nur Hypothetically, we sell, what next? They want our land they dont want us? the people. A majority of our people wont know how to use such cash. And which Buyer on Earth will be willing to buy us? They(westerners) want us cheap and not when we put our conditions, they are cowards.Do you think they will run away? So with the cards on the table in our favor, what will become of us, the common man? I think more killing as people are greedy thus more confusion and israf on earth.

Inshallah, will try to see if our library has it in stock. Just finished my first Nuruddin Farah's Novel- Knots enjoyed it actually,(my second novel written by a Somali- 1st experience was with Waris Dirie) rich literacy and the heroine was highly prized.

Nipo home, ta bukheri, upepo wenye harufu ya mlangilangi ukinipulizia. Karibu.

Originally posted by Munira002: ^^My question is , did she knowingly marry the man knowing he had a wife,kids and lives in another continent or did he get married to the other wife after they got married, and his sponsor wasnt sucessful? ^^ Im not sure,love. We have to wait for the lady who posted to put things in chronological order.

Ngonge, which books would you recommend?

A Couple were married, and they both live in two different countries. forexampl, eroupe and africa, the wife tried to responsor the huspand and it has been four years since they were married,so the husband has an other wife and children. she has been very pateint and now she feels her bilogical clock is ticking, Ladies if this was you Would Ask for a divorce? thank you If we are talking about honesty, hypothetically, I would have not allowed the matter to excalate as you have pointed out. 1. 4years of not being together 2.Living in different worlds in such a way my husband talking another wife.( It shows you failed as a wife.Youve never given your marriage a try. Youve let your status in whatever country come first than your marriage.) What I would have done, was be realistic. He cant get the Visa, fine. Plan B - either move together to another country and start afresh. Or move home whereever he stays. Why? - Because we are MARRIED- we have rights on each other spiritual, conjugal, fiancial etc... and to be able to reach them we need to be together. You have sacrificed for the ideal didnt work out. Now coming to the situation where he has remarried, your biological clock is ticking and asking for divorce. I would ask myself, why did I marry?? Whatever answers I get I will act on them . My best bet is HE is my soul mate. I pack my bags and give life a try together. Option B. Im no longer into the marriage, he already has wife n children and I dont want 2 leave Europe. > I ask for my divorce. In shariah you are Entitled to divorce if you have been estranged from your husband for 3 years which includes material and conjugal rights. He hasnt delivered,(life been unfavourable to both of u) you can speak with an Imam and get your divorce. But the saddest thing my sister is why get married in the first place. Once you saw the mission is impossible why didnt she brace up and go to her husband? They could move from Somalia due to the violence to kenya, Zambia, Tanzania, South africa even arab countries and try a life together as a family. To "have a life" doesnt mean youve got 2 be in Europe. It looks a bit selfish what is going on here. I still say she should give it a shot that is her marriage, why did she marry the guy in the first place?.Pack her bags be a woman give it an honest try. If it fails she still has a cushion to fall on to, her previous home/life in europe. So she should leave some savings/assets back there. And if she married the guy after he was married, I deem the woman selfish. You cant take away some1s father, husband and breadwinner. Life in Europe wont be easy fro the man either, until he assimilates to norms of that place. Unless if they have other bigger plans> HE comes gets his status and tries with whatever means and lies to bring the second wife to europe. The unfortunate thing is one will be legal the other illegal. I feel sorry for the children. I dont know but arent we supposed to protect our children? and be truthful and trustworthy? The govt maybe gaalo but lies in whatever language are lies. We should fear Allah. I see alot of Somalis cheating, Im a single mum to get money out of the system while the man of the house is a taxi driver. Dont they know even that money they receive is Haram aslong its based on a lie. :rolleyes: Im sorry off topic. But these are all consequencies things to think of if, you get married to a married man and want 2 bring him to the western world and with the 2nd wife in tow.