If It comes to that...I will never choose. Let them all die or all live.

Never. Ever...EVER. Im gonaa refer to a marriage relationship here...because I believe its ****** to expect honesty, loyality, trust and intimacy from any other relationship. And if your in a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship and your "partner" cheats on you..so what? What did you expect? There is no sacredness in that relationship...no contract connecting you two to each other. What I honeslty don't understand is (try as I might :confused: ) why someone would humiliate themselves and fight over someone who cleary does not want them? And slaps them in the face with that kind of behaviour? He/she doesnt care about you...disrespects you...so why not say alhamdullilah that you saw his/her true colours before it was too late and move on? What is there to fight for? A cheater? A liar? A person with a weak character/faith? A person who does not follow their religion/culture? How can you be sure it wont be repeated again? I dont see anything worth tears or anger here. Is that something you (general) are willing to fight for and get upset over? Isnt that a reason to kick someone to the curb? A reason to say "bye bye sucker"? A reason to run as fast as you can to the other direction? Had to get that off my chest....I hate pple who cry over ****** stuff

^^^The same of course or better. They get what they deserve.

^^^Look for this... Tall, handsome, generous, financially well off, romantic, sense of humour, religous...etc. etc. etc. etc. Sue: Take your time...I know this is an impossible mission for you

I was referring to both sexes....but if you'd rather read one part of the thread and completely skip the rest...well then what can I do? :rolleyes: P.S. If you havent read it ...dont comment on it...afterall a doctor wouldnt make a prescription without a diagnosis would he?

^^^LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Where are the Good Somali Men? I have them all with me..right here..so sue me!

^^I still stand by what I said..Im not gonna let your threats intimidate moi! PM=Private Message :rolleyes: I dare you to try it...have you forgotten you told me the crush u had on a certain member of SOL? I dont think you'll appreciate me blabbing it around. Two can play at this game darling. Quit while ur ahead...I have far more experience than you And Im not above playing dirty.

That was a very moving story. Thanks for sharing with us Totti. And I pray that ALlah strengthens our Imam to the level of that Mujahid. Ameen. Leaving his wife, kids, family, country, comfort zone for the sake of Allah---Wow. He has a strong faith and deep love for Allah. Mashallah.

I always believed that people who wore perfumes had um..how shall I say this in the kindest possible way? "Something" to hide I guess? I have no need for perfumes

Sheherazade although it might feel umcomfortable and the all the signs might point out that the old dude is having naughty thoughts for you, I dont think thats the case. He's lonely, has no family (Im assuming or they rarely visit) and probably few friends. I think your the one constant thing in his life, a kind and helpful person he can depend on. Maybe he had a pretty bad day and he was lashing out on you or maybe he was just plain jealous. Who knows? But If this continues it could be a problem.

^^^ If only more pple reacted to that like you did...maybe things would be different eh? OG Moti: Thanks aboowe. Hasna: Sis thats really sad at three differnt levels: That she would have premarital sex, that her family would only care about their reputation, that they would force her to have an abortion. Istaqfurullah. But this shouldnt be surprising...worse things do occur all the time.

I was looking for some african jokes when I came across a site that listed jokes from all the different countries in Africa. I was interested in the Somali category...and when I read it I was laughing like a maniac walahi. Not because it was funny. But it was sooo ****** ...some retard decided to post this crap. The last one is a little offensive tough. :mad: 1) one day a somali man say to his wife i'm so happy therefore i will put some bills on the bed mostly 20 dollar bills sleep on it and take whatever your body sticks like "glue" then he was thinking she will stick on her body some money but not the 5000 bill then all of the sudden she take all of it except one 20 bill and then he said angrly take the 20 bill too. hahahahah 2)a african man was looking for a multicultural office in the city that he moved to then he asked someone walking by and say eey sir "do you know where multilectural office is. hahaha multilectural...... 3) why did they stretch a piece of string across somalia? so the kids had some shade to play in... 4) do u know that the new somali president sat behind the united nations flag thinking it his and proudly folding his arms. 5) Q: How do you kill 50 flys? A: Hit a somailen in the face with a shovel African Jokes

Hadhrat Anas (Radhiallaahu Anhu) reports: One day we were sitting in the presence of Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam). Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, 'Just now a Jannati person will come in your presence.' In the meantime one Ansari Sahaabi (Radhiallaahu Anhu) came holding his shoes in his left hand, and the Wudhu water was dripping off his beard and said, 'Assalaamu Alaykum" When it was the second day, Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, 'Just now one Jannati Sahaabi will come and the same Sahaabi (Radhiallaahu Anhu) came. Also on the third day, Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) mentioned the same thing and the very same Sahaabi (Radhiallaahu Anhu) came. When Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) returned to his house, then another Sahaabi, Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-Aas (Radhiallaahu Anhu) followed this person. He said to that Sahaabi, 'I had an argument with my father about something and because of this I took a Qasm that for three days I would not go to my father. If give permission I may stay at your place for three days.' The Ansari Sahaabi (Radhiallaahu Anhu) told Abdullah (Radhiallaahu Anhu), 'No problem'. And Abdullah slept three days by him and kept watch all night to see what was his action? So Abdullah (Radhiallaahu Anhu) saw that he didn't perform any Tahajjud Salaat, only when he turned his side (direction) during sleeping he would make Dhikr of Allah, then he would go back to sleep. When three days had passed, Abdullah (Radhiallaahu Anhu) said to himself that this person doesn't do anything much, he does very little actions. So Abdullah said, 'O Ansari Sahaabi! I didn't have any dispute (argument) with my father, but I only wanted to see the actions you do for which Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) gave you the glad-tidings of Jannah for three days. But I have seen that you do not do any extra actions, then how did you get such a stage?" This Ansari Sahaabi said, 'I only do those actions which you have seen." While he was going, the Ansaari Sahaabi then called Abdullah (Radhiallaahu Anhu) and said, 'I do not have any special action but I only practice on one thing, that if Allah gives, anybody a favour, then I do not become jealous over it." Then Abdullah (Radhiallaahu Anhu) remarked, 'It is for this same reason that Allah has given you the glad-tidings of Jannat in this world.' From here, we realise that because of this Sahaabi abstaining from his jealousy, Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) gave him the glad-tidings of Jannah. We will not be able to do harm to other by having jealousy, in fact, one destroys one's own actions through it. Everyday, we read Salaat and we fast, we make Tasbeeh and make the Tilaawat of Qur'an, read Kitaabs and teach Kitaabs, go out in Jamaat and make a lot of effort. But if we are jealous about others then through this jealousy all our good deeds are destroyed. Therefore, at all times we should abstain from the jealousy which is Haraam. Allah Ta'ala says in the Noble Qur'an, 'Do you have jealousy over those people upon whom Allah has bestowed of his favours.'

I found this interesting article. Im not going to offer my opinion on this and I hope no one makes it into a women/men bashing session. Just read and think about it MY HUSBAND came home last week from a visit to the grocery for some last-minute necessities with an interesting question. He noted that at the cashier counter he was literally surrounded by two things: candy and tabloids. He further noted that the tabloids were predominantly pointing out the physical, personal and professional woes and horrors of -- women. He wondered aloud to me why the purchasers of these tabloids were predominantly women. (Twice as many women buy the National Enquirer as men.) His question was this: "Why do women enjoy the pain and suffering of other women so much that the tabloids earn millions of dollars off it?" Good question. I posed this question to my radio audience, and the responses were overwhelming in number, interesting in insight, and devastating in their characterization of women -- mostly from women themselves. David, a man from Corpus Christi, Texas, attempted to distinguish this morbid curiosity that women have from that of men with the following: "Not that men don't envy successful men, but most have a different approach to the problem this causes them. A man is less likely to want to find moral and other lapses in successful men, or to hope that they suffer family problems and die lingering, painful deaths, than he is to try to find out exactly what the other guy did to become successful and to try to do the same thing." If David is right, and I think he is, perhaps a significant part of that male/female difference is biological -- namely, testosterone. In his brilliantly illuminating article in The New York Times Magazine (April 2, 2000), Andrew Sullivan points out that "Testosterone's antidepressant power is only marginally understood. It doesn't act in the precise way other antidepressants do, and it probably helps alleviate gloominess primarily by propelling people into greater activity and restlessness, giving them less time to think and reflect. This may be one reason women tend to suffer more from depression than men." For the most part, the audience responses suggested that envy is women's greatest problem, leading to the "enjoyment" of the pain of other women. "Even the woman who seems to have a high self-esteem may see parts of herself as inadequate compared to others; this can also lead to fantasy butchering of another's ego to support one's own," writes Mary from Louisiana. More simply put by Becky from Arizona: "I believe that women like to know about those things because it makes them feel better about their own lives." Or, "It's easier to envy someone successful than to work at being successful yourself," wrote Laurie from New Hampshire. In my 1994 best seller, "The Ten ****** Things Women Do to Mess Up Their Lives," I pointed out that from my experience talking to thousands of women (and men) on the air, it seemed clear that women ruminate and stew over perceived or imagined slights, disappointments and frustrations. Whereas men react more to change, correct or eliminate the problem. Activity counters depression; rumination breeds resentment. However, just because biology presents some built-in parameters, they aren't necessarily bad or good. One need only acknowledge the obvious and work within those parameters. For example, in therapeutic situations, many passive, resentful women can learn to channel projections of self-hate into respect and/or action. In other words, all of us can fight what appears to be instinctive or reflexive and rise above our "nature." We can learn to "not say anything at all, if you can't say something nice." Lois, from North Dakota, suggests a "cure" for this "competitive/envy" ailment -- good families. "I was born in 1938 ... into a family full of very handsome, much older brothers. Girls continually chased them all over the place and it always amazed me. When I was about 12 years old, one of my brothers told me that the biggest problem some women have is the idea that they cannot feel secure unless they are measuring themselves against someone else. Men settle that on the football field. Girls never give up. 'You'll be happier,' he added, 'if you rise above that attitude.' I took his advice."

Honestly? I dont know why many of the sisters here are getting all hot and bothered about this subject. I always wanted to marry one of the many chinese and indian men in my area. I find them to be so respectful, well educated, modern, and they really care about their health and hygience. THis will of course offer me a wonderful excuse to act on my plans. NOva: Hehehehe. You know me so well sugar

IF I may add this poem: Muslim Sisterhood Anonymous One day I was alone Just me and my thoughts Then Allah steped in He showed me a sisterhood One which only Allah could bring Sisters like you And sisters like me We share a bond Us sisters you see There is something special Down deep within We all love Allah And we all hate to sin This sisterhood you see Helps me to believe When one of us sets astray Another will strengthen our way and pray Words of praise With heavens name This sisterhood I adore With it I've become much more We stand through it all Standing straight Us Muslims are strong Hand and Hand We try to understand Listening intently To Allah's Big plan This sisterhood you see Means so very much to me!

Khayr and Ameenah: Shouldnt I be consulted first? :rolleyes: How dare you discuss career opportunities concerning me without my consent? Knowlege? I refuse to be used like this---a puppet. Ameenah: I dont take your comments as a compliment! That was a double-edged sword (or so the saying goes...I guess :confused: )Whatever..you get the point

Raising Children In the Diaspora: Some Suggestions Anonymous Several years ago, I attended a wedding while visiting Somalia. I was "hanging out" in the bride's bedroom with various other female friends and family members who were helping with last minute arrangements. As I was listening to the buzz of the different conversations going on simultaneously in the room, I was struck by the diversity of languages being spoken. In one corner, two teenagers were talking excitedly in Dutch. A women nearby was scolding her young son in Arabic. Other languages heard in the room include Swedish, Swahili and English. I could only but reflect on the vast expansiveness of the Somali diaspora. As a Somali living abroad, I often wonder what the future holds for us. Will Somali communities form the tight knit bonds that hold cultures together as is often the case for East Indians and Chinese? Or will we completely assimilate into our host countries, adopting the dominant beliefs and value systems? It is a question we need to be asking ourselves, especially as many Somalis begin to have families and settle down in the West. The stark reality is that the children of the next generation will be more English, Dutch, American, Canadian, or Australian (among many others) than Somali. It is highly unlikely that these children will be able to speak Somali well, let alone understand the deep poetry and music of our rich culture. For Somali parents attempting to raise children with a semblance of cultural awareness, the task is a challenging one. However, there are some important steps one can take to ensure a sense of connection with Somali culture. Here are a few suggestions: 1) Enforce a Somali-only language policy in the house. Encourage children to speak Somali in the house. I know the suggestion is easier said than done, especially after the child enters school. However, even if only basic comprehension is achieved, that is an accomplishment. If possible, try to live in an area where there are other Somali children to foster a feeling of community. 2) Send children to madrassa. The importance in giving children a basic Islamic education cannot be over-empahsized. Especially in these times when our children are being raised in societies with very different and often times opposing value systems. 3) Organize a trip to Somalia at least once in a child's youth. If possible, travel back to Somalia to acquaint the children with their heritage. Visiting Somalia can provide kids with long lasting memories and a better understanding of the culture and society. Other benefits of taking children to visit Somalia is meeting extended family members and improving or learning altogther the Somali language. These are just few of many suggestions to help famillies instill a sense of Somali heritage in their children. But we must also remember that we are the examples to which our children look to, so if we continue to be clannish, competitive, and vengeful....we will get nowhere as a people. We are truly at a crossroads, and it is time for those of us in qurbaha to take responsiblity for our future generations.

3. Civility 101: Course aimed to making the Somalis understand that constructive criticism means no one hates you whole family. 7. How to pronounce the “P†in Ingiriis. Hehehe..Beebol iyo Booliis. 9. Identity Protection: How to not ask someone his/her clan, his/salary and other intimate personal info. I can think of so many people who would benefit from this.

Is she not a cause for a man to die? *sigh* Yes. But why dont they do it?

*tapping foot impatiently* So where's the rest?

^^Hope you feel better Sis. Illaheey waxaan kaga baryiyaa inuu caafmaad ku siiyo (Hope you were able to read that )

^^^Will you marry me?

Xalimo Thanks for the link Sis. I just skimmed over it..but Ill check it out when I have enough time inshallah. I can only talk about this in a general sense. But I was hoping that those who live in an area with a somali community would gives an idea of whats going on. What are people saying about it? How common is it?

^^^I would too. I was listening to the radio and it does happen in some places of the US. THe planned parenthood retards organized it. Theyre at the point where they now PROUD of it. Ya Allah.