^ :)Tres Bien, but even that grand response I am afraid will not get through. Going back to the original topic at hand, I personally find it obnoxious those, to use a street term "sell-outs". Not in the sense that one marries ajnabi because of mutual agreement/love ect ect (or calaf) waayo bani adam ba ladha wayahey and daadka wax ba is daxmaro. But those who deliberately avoid their "own", ka faano daadkoda if you know what I mean. lakiin caqligoda ba tuusey, daadka isku caqli ma ahaan, so as they say to each their own.

Ngonge, walal, sarcasm aside okay? We all are intelligent adults here I would hope, and we all can tell a five year old is a five year old at the end of the day. I certainly don't know you and because of that, i am mature enough not to pass judgement on the affaris of those i don't know. However, i can respond to what was written and having witnessed households, in which the girls clean and cook, while their brothers sit and watch tv, or play video games doing absolutely nothing at all to assist their sisters, well to say unfair would be an understatement, it's irresponsible parenting.

@The best way is to get them mini brooms, cleaning tools as toys when they are young Please tell me u are joking and only seeking reaction with such an outrageous statement? I sure do hope so. I certainly don't believe in habaar, lakiin if ever one was needed u would get mine right about now, to think so lowly of innocent children ya Allah. The best tools you can give children, (you mental midget), is apart from teaching them the deen and mannerism, is education, education, education. investing in the future of your kids, not the other way around. Your the parent, not them. I do wonder why somali kids are the way they are sometimes. @(I have other plans for the boy). It's your child, not my say whatsoever, but however since this is a forum to voice our opinions, there is certainly a large degree of unfairness by treating your children differently.

In other words, Mr. Gellorino turn back the clock to the good ole days got cha. In all honesty, i don't understand why you care so much about these sort of women and these men whom you deem have lost their masculinity, thier lives certainly don't affect yours and life has enough things to worry about, don't you think? live your life and marry the sort of woman, whom shares your way of thinking and ideals, problem solved. Now go waste your time on something useful, than trying to convert people to your school of thought, whom obviously are not buying what you are selling.

@graduate from Malaysia, is brought here by his wife , who could be his grandma, Sure Sure@ grandma. Knowing Somalida, ugu badnaan there is a five years difference. Funny topic.

Somali team was shown mearly 3 seconds if not less, how sad. I wonder on what basis were the two athletes selected (a committee?) and if they have ever competed before? After seeing the pictures, they (the young girl and flag bearer if he is a runner at all) looked very out of shape and out of sync. I wish them all the best partking in the highest athletic competition in the world, and it was a wonderful sight to see the blue flag and show was over-the-top. Iran looked good manshallah. @Rudy, would you make similar noise if the games had been held in DC or London? It's quite hyporcritical of those who criticize China, yet overlook the biggest criminals. These "Big" States are out for their interest, African leaders are just their tools sadly. It would have been a sight, if the Chinese officals allowed the ZIM leader to attend the show.

I don't like the term "Cushitic" at all, we Africans shouldn't readily accept how the Western Academia with all it's bias, categorizes us.

Jamaal, walaal i am sorry if you got the wrong idea that was not my intention at all, i replied only after browsing the first 2 pages that i didn't even see your reply. My response was a product of a story that i heard, had nothing to do with what u wrote. Having read your reply as of now, I see no reason why u would need to apologize, you said nothing wrong at all walaal. peace

This is totally off topic, since everything has already been said, but i believe that any woman who remarries and has a young daughter should be very careful in who she brings into her home and just have an extra eye, we surely live in a scary world in which u can't trust anyone. May Allah protect us.

@all the revanue goes to Edna's pockets. Mhaandow, "I hear" is the root of all evil, xaan i believe it's called, wa wax xuun ruunti, besides u donated to help, marka haa ka daaba hadliin, if your intention was right you will recieve the right awards. Don't mean to lecture, just dislike when ppl think along those lines. Great job on this project, and insha-Allah many more for daadkeena somaliyeed.

siphoningdilemma, macaanto u don't need to justify your life's choices with strangers online, if that is what you are considering than darling its your life, lakiin it would be wise to never make a big decision such as this, without consulting your loved ones and most importantly your heart don't feel shy or weird to have these feelings and to discuss it with those close to you, wa caadi, insha-Allah u will make the right decision. I hope you are not serious with the comparsion between the two, since the difference is the obvious, the by product of one will be a child, a life macaanto, and since we are muslims the only ethical way to concieve is through marriage. Do take a look at the link posted by Blessed. Perhaps and i don't mean to pry too much on your personal affairs, and it's just an assumption, is maybe u are afraid of being with a man physically, your not the only one and one shouldn't feel weird because of this and you can recieve counseling abaayo. Or maybe even marry this ideal candidate, and have artificial insemination, hey just a thought! All the best.

Okay wait, i earsed my earlier comment, she has cancer but hasn't died alhamdullah. My prayers for her and her family nonetheless. Love her.

^I think she wants her own children. Dear poster, the only halal way i know of to have kids, is to have a valid islamic nikah, only through a marriage. Your options depends on your age. If you feel you are reaching an age where getting preganant will be difficult and the chances miminal than your options will be different, otherwise i would say you have all the time in the world, there is no rush to have a child, wait for "Mr. Right", never lower your standards. Pray istaqarah and do what u believe in your heart is most right, go with your instinct insha-Allah.

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Well since we are all off the main subject, why not add my kumi iyo taano on what i think transpired here. It seems to me from the two different writing patterns presented in the first post, the part in english was only a quote to start a discussion, perhaps a quote the sister found online and the part in somali language was the poster's question asking the members what their views are on the "quote" that was presented, it wasn't clear but that is my interpretation anyway. ps: And for the record marriages with no fights, arguments, a peaceful co-existance do in fact exist, and I certainly wouldn't see such unions as boring, quite to the contary rather. Nothing "exciting" about bickering and arguments in a relationship.

@Agree with what? The article? The topic of the article? Both?It is a well-written article (if you like that sort of thing). Sorry if I wasn’t very clear. I was asking, what are people’s thoughts on the article. Do you agree with the author’s reasonings and conclusions, or do you think he was rather simplistic? Would it be fair for me to assume you are not buying the author’s arguments? And thanks for the link about your earlier discussion, very interesting, please continue. I totally agree with your line of reasoning. Quite refreashing actually. Al-Shamaali "^^In some countries in some instances yes. In others no." Interesting, a question after your long weekend insha-Allah of course. The predominantly Muslim states of today, implement to some degree Islamic law, which country do u think is doing the “best job” of enforcing Shariah in the day-to-day lives of its citizens?

Bella did you go anywhere, do anything other than what i *assume* which is staying within close circle of family and friends. Somehow i get the feeling i do understand that its a "thrid world country" and safety is first and foremost, but i get the feeling that one can't go anywhere rather than sit at home reminiscing with the family, especially if the one in question is a female. Mahadsanid walaalshiis Faynuus, but i am such a fuleeyat, i never travel alone to anywhere rather than my daily commuting so its out of the question to travel alone to Somalia or anywhere else. I am not planning on going anytime soon, but what's with the indhashareer? Hijab is not enough miya? yikes. Insha-Allah one day i will have my own stories to tell, maybe write a book about my travels that would be superb . Dabshid, that is a special name to me, don't make fun of it again you hear!! **You have been warned**

Glad to hear you had a wonderful experience Ms. DD. Inshoshareer is niqab, i reckon? So its true what they say, if i wear my jeans/t-shirt-sandles, and my hijab i will get rocks thrown at me LOL. It will not be anytime soon to visit back home but was just curious, in particular on the gender issues. Thank you for your sharing your thoughts. Thanks to the rest as well. mac salam

Why Shariah? One of the more interesting and informative articles on the subject matter. Do u agree/disagree and state your reasons? *Crosses her fingers for a serious debate* in particular the role woman would have in a Shariah state. (not a sexist , just an interest area of subject for moi). Mac salams

LOL@ Farax shopping. There are enough of those losers here. I kid, I kid. Gender specfic for the obvious reason, i am a woman and interested in the womens perspective. and traveling in particular to Somalia/Africa, the male and female will have different experiences.

Goodness, that meat looks God-awful. I hate to cook, well can't cook at all. Love to go out, mediterranean being my favorite dishes. comfort food is chocolates i crave white chocolates especially lol, ice cream, basically junk food.

Salams, For those of you ladies, whom have traveled to Somalia (or even to other countries in Africa for that matter), please share your experiences the good and the bad, the challenges you may have encountered, any tips, advice, warnings and so on which you will like to share. Looking forward to your responses. Thanks in advance.

Koora, You are right Somalis are not the exception, matter-fact the book is focused on the west and how it identifies the Islamic world. The Somali connection was made from my part, due to the fact that this medium is a majority Somali space. Those are great questions, and I am afraid i don't have the exact answers. The message of author of this book, a rather an important message says as human-beings we have many affiliations and identities, and we should as people view ourselves in these many identities and not just restrict our affiliation to one restrictive identity. In result we will create human solidarity and minimize social tension/violence.

LOL i would never have guessed, i thought exactly what Ibtisam stated at first or he figured out the "secret" since you stated in the beginning there was "once a secret". Interesting, I liked it and very creative with the writing -nice job. Bring more riddles.

@ find very few things funnier than a bride in a white dress and hijab. *mad* how dare you? I feel like starting a poll just on this comment, jokes aside i find it quite beautiful if you are referring to similar dress as shown in this video.