http://www.geocities.com/wally_mo/punt.html

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2002/612/op11.htm shame on you arabs

Originally posted by PlayMaker: Wow, those are amazing I really enjoyed them. Thanks for sharing THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE NO DIGNITY AND GOVERNMENT..OUTSIDE PEOPLE CAN PORTAY SOMALIA AS NOTHING BUT STARVIG..WE NEED FIRST GOVERNEMT AND QARANIMO BEFORE WE EXPECT THE OUTSIDERS PUTIING NICE PICTURES OF SOMALIA FOR US. WE HAVE TO DO OUR SELVIES..IE OUR GOVERMENT SHOULD PROUDLY SHOW WHAT IS SO GOOD ABOUT HIS PEOPLE...PROBLEM WE HAVE NO REPRESENTATIVE !!!!!SCARY RIGHT..I BET NON OF YOU THINK ABOUT IT

Originally posted by Classique: Maxaa ku cunaya ? Can’t you get another sentence,, better than this, Moderator. Good Credit to Sudanese : Btw,, are you a real zool? Moderator: LOL @ Zool, Racist. ( You claim Zool is a racist word) Good Credit 2 Miss Moderator: Do you know what Zool means? Moderator: I do and its racist term ( Again u r insisting on ur claim that’s Zool is a racist word). Zool is the Arabic version of nigga. Its what light-skinned Arabs call dark-skinned ones. (My lord, says Who, YOU?!) But when I lived in Carabta, it was outright racist to refer to some1 so (And that’s why precisely I said I wanna read your biography, I wanna know where exactly you lived in Arabia and from where you got this idea?) Amethyst , the post author asked one question which is “How come there is no dark Arabs in Arab Media if there are Black Arabs?!!†I didn’t answer him coz I know for sure there are hundreds of them (Black Arabs) in Arab Media, but ‘Sudanese’ never had the chance to see them. Its either coz he doesn’t deal with the Arab Media or he didn’t try to search them. In both ways, that doesn’t change the fact that they exist. I guess he has to do little efforts to know where they are found. The topic was going fine till you talked about Racist Terms. Why every time you share with your opinion or thoughts about Arabs you give a very dim image about them. It never happened that you said something good about them. None a once. WHY?! If by any chance someone used the word “Zool†in a racist way, that doesn’t mean the word is a racist term. You are a moderator and I believe readers will concentrate on your words more than the other members. Iam not telling you to consider Arabs as the Greatest people ever existed on earth. But as someone who settled in their land, Iam sure you had good times too, so no need for all this negativity in your opinions about them. To come to the point,Zool is a very normal word, like the lebanese word 'ya Zalameh', the Egyptian word 'ya ragel' or 'ya warya'. Don’t let some individuals' racial actions conquer your mind. That’s all SISTER ARE YOU SAYING THERE IS DARK ARABS IN MEDIA COUNTRIES WHERE THEY ARE IN MINORITIES. FOTR EXAMPLE WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW BLACK ARABS IN EGYPTIAN MEDIA EXEPT BTHE ANCIENT EGYPTIAN HISTORY..WHICH ONLY SHOWS WHEN THE NUBIANS SLAVES BEFORE ARAB INTERMARRIAGE. ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT IF I GO TO CAIRO/EGYPT I WILL SEE BLACK ARABS POSTED ON THE STREET WALLS P.S: You still live there ..well that’s nice, enjoy your life.

ethiopia is surrounded by muslim countryies ..if he keeps talkin like it wont be long before sudan and soamlia join and invade from both sides..that would keep him shut. terrorist kulahaa,he is the terrorist and torturing the innocent ugaden people. actually i dont want so much the ******* region as i used..cause i heard a heart breaking stories form there,,how they spread HIV by taking laddies and rapping them(their HIV soldiers),,,taking back agaadeen region would bring the disease to our land.

our history has nor been told..but thanks to sudanes our history is coming out. http://www.civicwebs.com/cwvlib/africa/somalia/1995/reunification/appendix_4.htm

DIDNT KNOW OUR ANCESTORS INHERRITAED ALL THAT..MAN WE WERE THINKERS..EVEN IRON IS INVENTED BY THE KUSH KINGDOM..WOW BEING RELATED TO THE GREAT KUSH KINDOM IS BLESSED AND PROUUD HERRITAGE.

Originally posted by Cuchullin: lets all calm down we have undoubtedly arab blood in us, in fact some clans claim they are descendents of the prophet(SAW)himself! Being related to arabs is i feel an honour, not the arabs of today, but those of yesteryears. Somalia is not in the Arab League for nothing, arabs recognise us as arab descendants. We have also some African blood leaving us as... ....African Arabs i.e. a darker version of North African Arabs (i.e.Morrocans) This is good for our religion and our pride because we have the best of both, we look better than jareer and arabs! FIRST I AND MOST SOMALIS KNOW WE ARE DESCEDANT OF ARABS..AND I KNOW WE ARE ACCEPTED IN ARAB LEAGUE BECAUSE OF ARAB DESCEDANT.DONT GET ME WRONG IT IS GREAT BEING RELATED TO PROPHET MOHAMED S.A.W RACE AND PREVILEDGE TO BE CALLED HIS RACE. INFACT SOMALIS HAVE MORE ARAB BLOOD THAT SUDANES ARABS SICE DOME OF THEM HAVE ALITTLE BIT OF AFRICAN NOSE..NOT BEING ABUSIVE JUST STATING OF CORSE THEY ARE GENERALLY HANDSOME PEOPLE. BUT WHAT GETS ME IS HOW COULD WE BE ARABS WHEN WE ARE MIXED..WHAT ABOUT ACKNOWLEGING OUR AFRICAN BLOOD!!....AND ALSO WE ARE NOT ARE ARABIC SPEAKING NATION! YOU SEE THAT IS WHAT SOMALIS CONFUSE NOT ACTUALLY HAVING ARAB BLOOD BUT NOT ARABIC SPEAKING NATION. CAN ABDUALHI YUSUF SPEAK ARABIC WHEN HE WENT TO ALGERIAN ARAB NATIONS SUMMIT?????

Originally posted by Lidia: Actually, I trace my ancestors back to Portugal. I’m of Portuguese origin, and my ancestors were Portuguese ship merchants and not Arabs. lidia if u were you i would have shut my mouth."i am portugees kulahaa" war heedhe white man only rapped not married because they faithless people.so having arab blood is different form havin portugee..arabs were muslims and married the locals..it is fact that sudan become arabs after arabs married their leaders doughters so that is how the country become arab land because the kush kingdom was so strong the egyptians used to fear alot,,so the only way to the arabs take over sudan was marrying the doughters of the important kings of sudan(nubians). if you are teling me portegees married your people 18th century..well that is even assault 2 your people..as even the portugees will tell you they only rapped not married untill martin lurther king spoke an racism abolished!!

http://www.civicwebs.com/cwvlib/africa/somalia/1995/reunification/appendix_4.htm

Originally posted by Haddad: I have come across this link . The following is what I found interesting: Almost all of the many different ethnic groups on the Horn of Africa trace their origins on the male side either: a . as Hamitic people back to Ham, the second son of Noah or b . as Semitic people back to Shem, the first son of Noah. The Somali people are one of several Hamitic ethnic groups in East Africa known as Cushites , descendants of the Kingdom of Cush. Their language is also one of several related languages referred to as Cushitic languages. As Hamites, they probably migrated from the Arabian Peninsula sometime earlier. One can speculate that the Kingdom of Cush was originally founded by Cush, the first son of Ham, who was the second son of Noah. According to the elders of the Beja ethnic group in Ethiopia, another Cushitic ethnic group, they do explicitly claim to be descendents of Cush, the son of Ham, the son of Noah. So, we can conclude a considerable people on the Horn of Africa are of Hamitic or Semitic origin. We know Ham and Shem were brothers. Finally, we conclude the brothers were based in the Arabian Peninsula . WHEN YOU SAY WE ARE DESCENT FROM KUSH KINGDOM,IS THAT MEAN WE RELATED TO SUDANES ARABS..AND IF ARE ARE TRYING TO SAY WE WERE ONCE LOOKED LIKE JAREER..HELLO I DONT ACCEPT. FIRST SUDANES ARABS ARE COMPLETLY DIFFERENT FORM US,BECAUSE THY WERE ONCE LOOKED LIKE JAREER(FIRCOON) BUT THEY INTERMARRIED WITH ARABS FROM EGYPT/SOUTHER ARABIA.AND THAT IS HOW THEY COME TO LOOK LIKE SOMALIS. THE SUDUNES ARABS WILL TELL YOU THEIR AFRICAN ANCESTORS WERE SLAVES(IE NUBIANS) EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT THE SAME PEOPLE SINCE THEY ARE MARRIED ARABS.

do the arabs look sudanes as arabs or black african? sudanes arabs have similar features to somalis yet are arabs. so my question is do arabs look sudanes as arabs or its it the sudanes claim something they are not. there is this sudanes guy who told me that somalis are not arabs because they dont speak arabic,but a assumed soamlis who speak arabic as arabs..that really confussed me. i want people with knowledge to give me some answers..i necer though i will be confussed who iam but the fact is i ma not the only person with this identity crisis. how come there is no dark arabs in arab media if there is black arabs!!!!!.

the brother who said somalis are considered african by the westerns..that is because the westerns to associate somalis with inferior/slave ans also we are not arabic sppeaking nation only the rich speak arabic who travelled gulf. secondly i have been watching the situation in darfur in american CNN/FOX NEWS and i have heard them saying the africans up north is bashing the southern africans....i think it gose like, arabs up north are bashing the southern black africans!!. westerns see the northern sudanes as arabs but somalis as africans,because we like the black history,ie slavery,act like nigg#rs and proud to be black africans,so why expect the westerns to classify you anything other than arabs..ccause we chose to . and also this bullshit about we are chustic people is nothing but nonsence..when you are in africans continent you either african or arab forget abot am midddle between,kush ,chushtic, every one knows the sudanes and egyptian are descent of kush and ancient egyptians..the proof is go to caro egypt,the egyptians will proudly tell you they descent of ancient egypt and also the go to khartaum they will tell you they are descent of kush people,same go to morocco/libya they will tell you they are from descent of berber but at the end of the day which side do you want to be in ..black african or arab..you do the math. the irish and the greek dont look the same,but they are westerns ..hence europens. if tukey joins europeans union she will be europena country but doesnt mean their history would dissappear! so is somalia a black african or arabs, that is how african continent splits..forget about i am quarter this and that.

Originally posted by somealien: quote:Originally posted by Modesty: I can't believe that those people are Somalis. For one, this could be a cut 'N' PASTE thing. Secondly, they wouldn't be sitting comfortably around white slave owners like that. I think possibily they could've been Muslim Senegalese,who were brought to the U.S.A as slaves.But No, those people can't be Somalis...Plus why would anyone want to flee our beautiful country with all our goats,and camels in 1915 to come to a cold place like Chicago! I'm not buying this! :cool: 1)what woulbe the goal in cut n pasting the pics, what kind of satisfaction would one get in doing so? and 2) theyre not slave owners, slavery ended sometime in the 1890s, AND, although somalis and east aficans didnt generally fall victim to the slave trade, there ARE a few that fell in those traps. in 1915, the jim crow laws is what id be worried about though. but than again, they could just be travelling through. THIS IS ONE OF THE REASON WHY I DONT WANT WHITE PEOPLE DIGGING OUR LAND TO DO ARCHAEOLOGY AND WHERE WE COME FORM..JUST LIKE THEY DID 2 NUBIANS THEY WANT SOMALIS TO ASSOCIATE WITH SLAVERY EDEOLOGY, IE LOOKING IF THERE IS SOME EVIDENCE OF SOMALIS AS SLAVES BEFORE ISLAM(7TH CENTURY. WHITE MAN IS DYING TO CHANGE OUR HISTORY AND BRING THE WORD SLVERY TO OUR HISTORY.

Originally posted by ??쩺 I have seen these pictures on another website. What were Somalis doing at the Chicago Police Staion in 1915? Were they investigaged by the Police? Were they Slaves? Were they refugees?What do these pictures tell you? More investigation is needed on this. http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?cdn:1:./temp/~ammem_2RbR:: FIRST NO ONE WOULD WANT TO ENSLAVE A SKINNY PEOPLE NO MATTER WHAT COLOUR. THE WHOLE SLAVERY DURING 18TH CENTURY WAS FOCUSING ON PEOPLE WHO ARE PHYSICALLY STRONG ..HENCE THAT IS WHY BALCK AFRICANS(JAREERS) WERE TARGETED. SECONDLE WE WOULDNT HAVE PUT UP THIS WITHOUT A FIGHT...AND IF THEY TRIED HARD TO ENSLAVE SOMALIS IT WOULD HAVE ENDED UP SITUATION ABU GRABE(IRAQ) JUST TORTURING BECAUSE WE SAID NO TO ORDERS..ALLAH IS GREAT AND WE SHOULDNT FEAR OF DEATH. THAT IS ARABS STOPPED ENSLAVING THE NUBIANS 14TH CENTURY WHEN THEY BECOME MUSLIM..AS BILLAH DEMONSTRATED WHEN YOU ALLAH YOU DONT NEED TO ABEY HUMAN BEING SIMPLE AS THAT...YOU CAN HANGE ME BECAUSE YOU ARE STRONGER BUT YOU CANT MAKE ME OBEY YOU ...ALLAH AKBAR..THAT IS WHY ISLAM IS GREAT.