Somalis,

Isn't the battle to create some resemblence of a central authority and a functioning system? How can you achieve anything with every group and their mother rejecting your governments legitmecy? Somalia is a failed state and as such the government needs a lot of help to create institutions of governace. nobody really want to get involved. If somalians remain within their border and keep fighting, most of the world probaly do not care. It never has. the only reason there is even some international attention is because of the troubles on the high sea.

Originally posted by me: General I am in no way or form an honest broker. I am a part of the conflict and I have my own agenda. So for the sake of peace we need an honest broker that can be trusted by all parties. General who would you like to nominate as an honest broker? This hypocracy from all sides needs to stop. Too many cross dressers in here. Is it even possible to be an honest broker in today's Somalia. The prophet himself must come down.

Originally posted by Juje: quote:Originally posted by General Duke: Long live Somalia... Which Somalia , the one of ICU and their Eritereans, Oromos and Arab Mujahidiins or that of TFG and Axmaaro, please clarify. as funny as that sounds, there is a whole lot of truth behind that alignment. As for Ethiopian involvment, they have seen these groups and know their limitations. I do not see a sense of urgency on their part. I don't think they even mind sitting this one out. Zenawi appears to care little about the situation in his recent interviews.

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^NGOONGE: Puntland will defend the areas under its control for the Somali people. As for this government its dugg this hole its not our job to get them out of it. This is Sharif Ahmed's fighting his own creation. Nothing to do with Puntland. It is fair to say that is a very shortsighted approach. Group like this are a threat for everyone. They are not going to limit themselves to south-central somalia. This is not a home grown movement. It is organized and funded primarily by outsiders. you know full well, there is a much bigger agenda, that goes well beyond this region at play here. no one can sit on the fence and come out looking good at the end.

You must remember not long ago, during the ethio-somali conflict,Yemen fought and killed many Somalis in support of Ethiopia. so how can you make that kind of blanket statment?

Obviously one can rationalize, like the PM does here, the western part of the equation. But where is the arab world in this? What can be said for the level of indifference they appear to be showing? The biggest Irony, Billions of Saudi, Kuwait and UAE money flows to Sudan, Ethiopia & Djibouti. why aren't they expected to play a much better role than they are playing now in somalia?

Mr. Afewerki has been playing the role of a pimp pretty much for any arms smuggler with the right price. I have seen few of his interviews and he doesn't come across as an inteligent fellow. Is he really supporting all those movements out of principle? by the way none of this groups, from sudan to ethiopia and now somalia, has much in common.