Gediid: I beg to differ. Human behaviour can be the most manipulative source of action you can think of… Anyone can be pushed to their limit regardless of strength of their love, because if one is determined to wreck another’s life he/she will succeed if it was “qadar”. If not, then they will pull through. As for the subject in question, this does not only take place in the Somali Community, it takes place in every community. There are good hearted people and there are not so kind hearted ones, so, just hope and pray when the times comes you will get along with your in-laws. Kind-heartedly Shayma

Surely, every Award Ceremony must have “New Comers” or “Emerging Actress” Category??? <-- Hint…Hint… :rolleyes: p.s. Somebody silence that cat. Acuudubilaahi minaShaydaan Ragiim

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Isn’t this another way of classifying social status?? Upper class & Middle class This has always been an issue, the grouping of people together and placing them status within society according to the groups they belong to, is as old as society itself. Two main examples are Racial and Religious grouping. So, as far as I am concerned its education that counts at the end of the day, not your social value. However, if you look at "the rich and the poor" from Islam point of view, you will notice that ALLAH (swt) did that for a reason. "There is no envy except in two: a person whom Allah has given wealth and he spends it in the right way, and a person whom Allah has given wisdom (i.e. religious knowledge) and he gives his decisions accordingly and teaches it to the others. (Bukhari)." Final words from me……Those who are class conscious are simply too ignorant. au revoir! Cawo

Najmo & Lakkad Thanks. I am fairly new and not familiar with the type of topics that are discussed here, but I thought this would be topic that would appeal to most of us. He sounds to me like a guy who was in love with the idea of loving someone...Sort of putting a person on a pedstol without the intention of even trying to abtain them. SCORPION_SISTA I couldn’t agree with you more sista. Baashi I would categorically agree that we don't agree on the definition of Love. To me in order to truly love another is to go through the 3 stage development. 1- Physical Attraction 2- Mental Connection 3- Emotional Affection If you find the person attractive you are most likely to pursue them, once you have done that you see if you both mentally connect then finally your emotional affection starts to ripen rapidly. See, is like this. You’re walking down the street and you look at a shop window, you like the way they merchandised the goods on display, so you go in and see what’s in store. If you happen to like what you see once you’re inside the store then you invest in it. If you don’t you walk out empty handed. Simple In Cilmi’s case he just had the 1st one, and as most you know that is just the tip of the iceberg, it does not mean you’re in love.

“It was pure love without partner” Baashi. You seem to be contradicting yourself. How can you call it love if he didn’t even experience it? Yet you say he was delusional. You can’t possibly LOVE without going through the process with a partner. I believe love develops with time, the more time you spend with the person, the more you fall in love. Is not something you form in your mind, that’s just pure illusion. All I am saying is that a figment of ones imagination cannot establish the basis for love. No doubt he was a gifted poet and I would certainly say she was an inspiration.

I can see most of you agree that he died of starvation. But wasn’t that due to his own negligence? Qadar ilaahay baa dhacay , but I mean, if he knew she had moved on with her life, why couldn’t he? You do not simply stop living because you did not get your way in life, if we all did that we would have fewer people in this world. Ameenah. I agree with you, but when you said no human being should be given that much affection, I would say the amount of affection you give should be in balance with the amount you receive. In this situation that wasn’t the case and the result was severe. In my opinion if you want something you go and get it, don’t waste your time being infatuated with things that you don’t have control of. As Jamaal-11 said “In Boodhari's poetry, it is self-evident that he was way too lazy to manifest his words into actions” Thus, Actions = Results. A formula which most Somalis lack when it comes to this kind of situations. ---------------------- Ama afeef hore lahow ama adkaysi danbe. Afxumo nabadna kaa wadday, colaadna wax kaagama tarto. Afar waa afar: Noloshu waa Niyad; Naftu waa qaali; Nacaybku waa olol; Nabsigu waa qaraar.

My somali is not all it cracked up to be, but recently i've been trying to get into Somali Literature and I have come across this poem written by Hadraawi, one of Somalilands great poets. Have a read, certain words are little Ambiguous but soon you will ge the gist of it. Maxamad Ibrahim Warsame Hadraawi; Gabyagani wuxuu ka midyahay, gabayada tirada badan ee uu abwaanku curiyay. Gabayga magaciisa waxa la yidhaa "Hablaha Geeska Afrika". Gabaygu wuxuu ku bilaabmay sidan: Ma geyyoon ma gamashiyin ma gommodin ma gaagixin ma gabloobin maan gudhin mana gabin halkaygii gabaygiina maan deyn geeraarradaydii imminkaan gardaadshoo Weli maan gunaanadin Murti nimaam gunteediyo baran gogol-dhiggeedoo gonda degi aqoonoo garab-daar lahayn baa gawl-gawla hadalkoo kolba dhinac garoocdee sida Webi Ganaanoo cirka godollo maaloo biyihii ku gaaxdiyo gebiyadii kusoo degey ku darsday gufaaciyo gullama diriroo galli jabay habeenkii kolba gacan masoo rogay Qudhaciyo galoolkii gunta xididka maw jaray dhulka wada galaal iyo gabbalaha makaga tegey afartaa geddaydii dhaha laygu garan jirey Gurmashada dagaalkiyo gulufkiyo colaadaha goobaha naf waagiyo halka laysku gowroco marka gorodda lays daro haddaan dumarku goonyaha guubaabo kicinayn sida galowga dhiilloon illaa geesi qayrkii birta kuma gumaadeen! Gu´ hagaagay oo da´ay dhulka geedo jiifaan gurya-samo barwaaqa ah haddii geeddi lagu furo dhallinyaro is gurataa gurdan raaca fiidkii gole weyn ku kulantoo cagta garan-garkeediyo isu geysa jiibkoo googooska luuqdiyo gedda sacabka loo jaro hablahaa u gaaroo garashada codkoodaa qof gaboobay kicisoo gelbiskiyo mashxaraddaa gama´kaa ilaashee haddaan gabadhi boodeyn illaa gegi cayaareed wax ma dhaanto geriyaad Haddaan guudka laga jarin gudihiisa xaabkiyo cayayaanka laga gurin marwo dumar garka u xidhan illayn guri dahsoon maleh Gaadaha habeenkii kelidaa galgalashiyo ged-geddoonka dhalisoo adigiyo go´aagaa hadba dhinac u guuroo barkintaad gabbood iyo gaashaan ka dhigataa haddaan guud haldhaaley kolba gacan la saareyn illayn gogoshu wehel ma leh Kuma galo adduunyada ninna goonni-socodkoo marwo garasho dheer baa ninka raga u gudinoo iyadaa guddoonkiyo gadh-hayaa naftaadiyo gaadiidka reerkiyo gurgurshaaga noqotoo arrin kula gorfaysee haddaan gaari kula jirin illaa noloshu guul ma leh Go'i waa barbaareey Gobi waxay ku dhaqantaa Garab waxay ka dhigataa gallad waxay ku dheeftaa Samo waxay ku gaadhaa Gololadda haweenkee hiddaheena gaarka ah Hablihii gabowgiyo geerida ku sugi jiray hablihii garayskiyo Xidhan jiray guntiinada Hablihii gu' iyo dayr Sida baarqab golongolay Dhexda xadhig ku goyn jiray Hablihii garaaraha Gaatan-socodka laafyaha Sida gorayga ciideed Gelbin jiray tallaabada hablihii gun iyo baar isha gacalo-eegtaa gama aanay ledi jirin hablihii gammaan faras iyo geela ugubka ah guur doon ka bixin jiray hablihii Gargaariyo Guuleed ku curan jiray Goldaloolo iyo ceeb hablihii ka guban jiray Gebagebada sheekada Bal aan soo gunaanado Guddoonsiiyo jiiftada Hablo weerar geli kara Hablo geesi dili kara Gobonimana hanan kara Garta madal ka niqi kara Garashana iskaga mida Quruxdana ka wada gob ah Hope you enjoyed it. Cawo ------------------ *Ama afeef hore lahow ama adkaysi danbe. *Afxumo nabadna kaa wadday, colaadna wax kaagama tarto. *Afar waa afar: Noloshu waa Niyad; Naftu waa qaali; Nacaybku waa olol; Nabsigu waa qaraar.

Cilmi Bodheri---Love or Lust?? When the name Cimli Bodheri is mentioned you instantaneously think of love. Why? Because according to many somalis “love” was the cause of his untimely death. But from what I have been told (correct me if am wrong) Cilmi did not even interact (shukaansi meesha kama dhicin) with the lady he claimed to have “fallen in love with”. Apparently has seen her on many occasions. He liked the way she looked and carried herself. So my question is was he smitten by love or was it just unadulterated lust?