im aware the west backed and established dictators but im aware that with these type of dark alliances comes coperation. Without the consent of africans a clear invasion would have to take place in order to re-establish control.im not letting the whites offthe hook i just want to know whats with africans making these lethal betrayols. i mean what gives?

how is taiwan competing sad? Taiwan is the Zanzibar of south east asia and could turn somalia into a colony withen minutes. Im so surprised someone showed up to represent somalia but i guess a team is a team and ubless otherwise happens in somalia not involing war lords and fiascos i dont suggest you make remarx refugee

the CSA isnt taking part because it hasnt been a country sense 1865! There is a huge difference between a micronation (unrecognized country) an inactive (defunct) country and an inactive micronation. Katanga was a micronation from 1960-63 but in 1964 became a defunct nation. Ajaria was a micronation that official became defunct on 2004. Puntland and Somaliland are active micronations that still exist without recognition. Biafra was a country with barely any recognition but ceased to exist in by 1971. If Antilles and Peurto Rico can compete Landers and punts should like wise.

uont have to tell metwice. to this day im still a suporter of Katanga

former dictator being Jama ali Jama? or that other president? Why did Abdilihi Yusuf come back at all anyway? :confused:

what nationlist? I dont support bush i suport RALPH ****IN NADER! WHOOOOOOOOOOO

does any one know?

u heard me :mad:

forget about being African or Arab and promote your selves as a seperate racial entity.

u had the first plains? wow were the hell are they now and if your so smart how in the f*** did you manage to get the pathetic independence date of 1960? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: So rudy what are u trying to say about the west welcoming you? Are you talking aboutthem alowing you as a refugee to stay in there countries? :confused: and the arnt your brothers and i doubt they care less how much u look to them. You could easily be the South Sudan of tommorow so keep that in mind...

u had the first plains? wow were the hell are they now and if your so smart how in the f*** did you manage to get the pathetic independence date of 1960? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: So rudy what are u trying to say about the west welcoming you? Are you talking aboutthem alowing you as a refugee to stay in there countries? :confused: and the arnt your brothers and i doubt they care less how much u look to them. You could easily be the South Sudan of tommorow so keep that in mind...

u had the first plains? wow were the hell are they now and if your so smart how in the f*** did you manage to get the pathetic independence date of 1960? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: So rudy what are u trying to say about the west welcoming you? Are you talking aboutthem alowing you as a refugee to stay in there countries? :confused: and the arnt your brothers and i doubt they care less how much u look to them. You could easily be the South Sudan of tommorow so keep that in mind...

Thanks for the reply. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. Now, lets get serious. Your argument seems to be that a land belongs only to its original inhabitants and that any new additions to that land are nothing but long term “guestsâ€! There are so many loose strands in that argument I’m not sure which one to pick first. Im saying that they have the rights to there countries but when they launch wars of aggresion against the native race of the continent exiling them to the Middle East would have merits. Ok, lets talk about the matter of RACE. Is it genetic or cultural? In the case of the Sudanese, it can be argued that the two sides are of different “races†but since they’re both Muslim the cultural argument is instantly discarded. So, we’re left with the argument of genetics, right? This is a more complex argument, however, since most scientists agree that the Human Race originated in Africa, many Caucasians could use that argument to claim their African lineage. Incidentally, most scientists also agree that genetics plays a negligible part in determining race. The similarities in the DNA of White Europeans and Black Africans prove it! Religion is not cultural although i know of the tradinonal bagade that comes with being a Muslim. Food rules and etc. Origins in Africa have no affect on the current race of a person. Native Americans are of Oriental ancestry but are NO LONGER in that race all though somewhat still of it. There is no way for them to revert back to being Chinese or Burman or etc. Yes but see it is like Nazism and Fascism. Nazism is a form of fascism although Fascism is not an offshoot of Nazism and condones a larger belief. So to put it in context retaining to Africa it could be argued that Whites orginate from Europe and Africa but blacks only orginate from Africa and nowhere else. I know races are all related but Whites have a dual racial homeland therefor it would only be right of them to chose Europe to avoid conflict. You seem to argue that Arabs (or white Africans for that matter) have no right to live in Africa. Following your logic, Americans have no right to live in America and Australians don’t really belong to Australia. The whole idea of migration and looking for pastures new to settle in is totally overlooked. This idea, just in case it escaped your attention, is an intrinsic part of African life. To ignore it is to ignore Nomadic instincts of humans. The Darfur crisis is more a result of politics, greed and economic mismanagement than mere genetics and race. My point was is that Arabs dont have the rights to launch wars based on race against natives. There is a deffierence between the U.S. fighting the Sioux Nation for the point of say a river to irigate farms and a war with them to replace them with white setlers for the sheer purpose of them being white and they Indians. You can have an ethnic homeland comprised of whites beside an ethnic homeland comprised of say Fijians but when the white have invades the fijian half of the land for racial reasons the fijians gain the moral right to completely exile the "invaders" sense a race war calls for their white countries ethnic rights to be noll and void. But indiginous peoples can not push other races out of their entire continental homeland. An example would be ¾ of Europe being lived on by Europeans but with a small part of Europe having a few Black Americans start small countries. Keep in mind that although the entirety of Europe is their homeland the part comprised of Black Americans never had any European recidents on it at all. Reading between the lines (and I’m not usually good at that game) I sense the disturbing argument being peddled by many African nationalists about this great Arab conspiracy to control and pillage Africa! Please tell me it isn’t so. Yes from your Somali perspective. From a Somali-Arab perspective things are different from an Arabs views and as a Somali-African your views are different from African view points. I do believe Somalis try to pass off as Arabs and link their religion to much with Arabs. They see it as one in the same there for making them Arabs however the Arabs could careless. Its becoming another fiascoe and i think Africans need to address the issue of Arab hostilitee and Arabs like Whites seeing you more of as a peace of game or a slave then a person. They have long heald hostilities and with Africa's humiliating defeat by the hands of (the defunct) Boer nations and Anglo-White South Africans they need to look at the Arabs and their huge numbers. Arabs have long discriminated against Africans and just because the prophet "didd`t" doesnt mean they'll listen. In fact the day they stop this Arab on African slavery in Mauritania and Sudan is the day Nick Berg's head roles back on to his shoulders and we see the revival of East Germany... I judge Somalis like Italians. As a seperate race then the two you are disputed between. By the way i saw the Somalian team on TV at the Olimpic cerimony with all the other teams. I was surprised they'd show with all of Somalias troubles. Oh by the way Nederland antilles and Puerto Rico are alowed teams so wat 'bout Puntland and SL? :confused:

you have the word s.t.u.p.i.d. blocked and i believe that is both silly and reassuring

you have the word s.t.u.p.i.d. blocked and i believe that is both silly and reassuring

you have the word s.t.u.p.i.d. blocked and i believe that is both silly and reassuring

Snow, The more i read your response the more i realize that you are one bitter brother because i have failed to understand one bit of the "Point" you made above. You arnt one of those pan-somalists who goes all the time "he aint somali he ****** hater probally tring to deny he somali so well ignoore him sense he so ****** walahi"? I've encounterd many a idiotic Somali but im counting on you all being smart sense this site has its rules. I wonder what would your reply be had Somalia been in the same position that Iraq and Iraqis find themselves in today because there are similarities between the two. Why Somalia didn't take back Djibouti or NFD or even Zone 5? ever asked yourself those Question mate? The U.S.S.R. must of fell in love with Abyssinia's sytimental historical value. But im really not sure why Russia jumped the fence and turned to Ethiopia. Still havent figured it out. Alot of things arnt clear about that powershift. If you can isolate the N. Frontier Dist. from the rest of Kenya i would asume you would only perform a half conquest of Djibouti leaving the remainder of the nation to change its name to Afarland. You couldnt take back the NFD because Kenya was able to push back all Somali(an) forces and an invasion would be condemed and stopped by the international comunity or a Superpower wouldve interferred against you. Instead of taking more lands i suggest you help yourselves out and just invite the Kenyan and Ethio-Somalis into your country. But my remarks comparing you to Japan's speed in weapon making was to show that had you acted like them Somalia would be 3 times its size today. I also think Siad Barre was taking his share of US aid and using it for vacations more then Somaliweyn and Pan-Somalism. With Gerald Ford backing your rediculous bismarkist war i would think Somalians would be more friendly towards Americans but looking at Abdillihi Yusuf's quick turn on the Somalilanders who helped him its clear Somalis are only interested in history that makes them look good (I can only imagine how thin your history boox are...). Im curious how would youall react to Afars seizing control of Djibouti and exiling the Issas to western Somalilander/northwest Somalian territory? Do you feal the Afars should have their own homeland? Would you settle for it if they offered 10% of Djiboutian territory? I bet you did but failed to come up with a meaningful resolution. like i said before "In my opinion Saddam Hussein was far better than any US or UK soldier would ever be and the unrest and the constant and continuous unnecessary deaths of Iraqi citizens will back my argument just like Siad Barre was far better than all these scavengers that are running around in our country today claiming to be our "Leaders". A man once said about the concept of choosing the lesser evil " you would choose a heart attack over cancer but i cant see why you wouldnt chose 'neither' " quote: The Japanese point is a bit more complex; they stood up to the might of America and almost succeeded for a multitude of reasons not intelligence alone. Not intelegence? Have Somalis acting like raving mad men come close to empire? List the reasons if you dispute please. If we go down the root that says the Japanese are more intelligent than the Somalis, we’ll inevitably have to ask for the criteria used to define “intelligenceâ€. This might then lead to discuss the old age argument of nurture versus nature. I mean not to be crual but the Somalis have shown no signs of natural intelegence. They have the ideas you dont. The N VS. N can be applied to things like scateboarding but not this. If Somalis think like anyone else were is the proof? There is no proof of a serious attempt and i think Somalians and the Japanese face the EXACT Same problems but in different ways so there is deffinently no nurture because you need nature to begin with to get nurture. If you couldnt naturaly think how would you be able to nurture your natural thoughts? Keep in mind it can be any date in Somali history but a bunch of old hags in the desert talking about Russia just doesnt cut it... With all due respect my friend, that post does not show any signs of intelligence either. I’m assuming that your questions are asked in a rhetorical sense (really giving you the benefit of the doubt there). But, lets say they’re not and you genuinely mean them. You need to expound them a little more so I know what I’m dealing with here. While you’re at it, don’t forget to expand on your understanding of the definitions of intelligence, nature and nurture. Much obliged. I feal the N vs. N concept can be used in things like scateboarding or blinking contests and things alongthose lines that require nuturing in the form of practice. I believe nurturing can only capitalize on natural knowledhe already possesed. Even if it is a failure a Somali giving it a serious effort is a success as far as im concerned butyou have not even given that much. It raises questions of whether you think of important things or not and rather Somalis understand seriousness and logic and the benefits of brainstorming and science. I'm not being rhetorical and im looking for efforts as to why Somalis have bared no fruits of anykind. I'm wondering even with the qabil debacles why your efforts are vain. I wonder why you dont use your brains ¾ of the time (the ¼ resides in Somaliland who have stopped the BS for good i hope) and why you wouldnt try to think of making bomber plains to go over Ethiopia or why you wouldnt use war shifts crafted by bright minds to attack the Kenyan coast. Japan was not a incredibly reach nation before 1935 but the people still had plenty of ideas that ended up working and bringing them as far as it did. My exact definition of inteligence is :The ability to apply logic to things. To have a small bit of knowing of something and then think of orginal ways to add on to it. on a side note i feel comparable enough to not use my spell check sense i asume the Somalians on these boards will not associate bad grammar with being Somali on other boards and carry on about how i am in denial of my heritage and other false accuations that actually makes the finger pointer look more ignorant then the accused. think you.

Snow, The more i read your response the more i realize that you are one bitter brother because i have failed to understand one bit of the "Point" you made above. You arnt one of those pan-somalists who goes all the time "he aint somali he ****** hater probally tring to deny he somali so well ignoore him sense he so ****** walahi"? I've encounterd many a idiotic Somali but im counting on you all being smart sense this site has its rules. I wonder what would your reply be had Somalia been in the same position that Iraq and Iraqis find themselves in today because there are similarities between the two. Why Somalia didn't take back Djibouti or NFD or even Zone 5? ever asked yourself those Question mate? The U.S.S.R. must of fell in love with Abyssinia's sytimental historical value. But im really not sure why Russia jumped the fence and turned to Ethiopia. Still havent figured it out. Alot of things arnt clear about that powershift. If you can isolate the N. Frontier Dist. from the rest of Kenya i would asume you would only perform a half conquest of Djibouti leaving the remainder of the nation to change its name to Afarland. You couldnt take back the NFD because Kenya was able to push back all Somali(an) forces and an invasion would be condemed and stopped by the international comunity or a Superpower wouldve interferred against you. Instead of taking more lands i suggest you help yourselves out and just invite the Kenyan and Ethio-Somalis into your country. But my remarks comparing you to Japan's speed in weapon making was to show that had you acted like them Somalia would be 3 times its size today. I also think Siad Barre was taking his share of US aid and using it for vacations more then Somaliweyn and Pan-Somalism. With Gerald Ford backing your rediculous bismarkist war i would think Somalians would be more friendly towards Americans but looking at Abdillihi Yusuf's quick turn on the Somalilanders who helped him its clear Somalis are only interested in history that makes them look good (I can only imagine how thin your history boox are...). Im curious how would youall react to Afars seizing control of Djibouti and exiling the Issas to western Somalilander/northwest Somalian territory? Do you feal the Afars should have their own homeland? Would you settle for it if they offered 10% of Djiboutian territory? I bet you did but failed to come up with a meaningful resolution. like i said before "In my opinion Saddam Hussein was far better than any US or UK soldier would ever be and the unrest and the constant and continuous unnecessary deaths of Iraqi citizens will back my argument just like Siad Barre was far better than all these scavengers that are running around in our country today claiming to be our "Leaders". A man once said about the concept of choosing the lesser evil " you would choose a heart attack over cancer but i cant see why you wouldnt chose 'neither' " quote: The Japanese point is a bit more complex; they stood up to the might of America and almost succeeded for a multitude of reasons not intelligence alone. Not intelegence? Have Somalis acting like raving mad men come close to empire? List the reasons if you dispute please. If we go down the root that says the Japanese are more intelligent than the Somalis, we’ll inevitably have to ask for the criteria used to define “intelligenceâ€. This might then lead to discuss the old age argument of nurture versus nature. I mean not to be crual but the Somalis have shown no signs of natural intelegence. They have the ideas you dont. The N VS. N can be applied to things like scateboarding but not this. If Somalis think like anyone else were is the proof? There is no proof of a serious attempt and i think Somalians and the Japanese face the EXACT Same problems but in different ways so there is deffinently no nurture because you need nature to begin with to get nurture. If you couldnt naturaly think how would you be able to nurture your natural thoughts? Keep in mind it can be any date in Somali history but a bunch of old hags in the desert talking about Russia just doesnt cut it... With all due respect my friend, that post does not show any signs of intelligence either. I’m assuming that your questions are asked in a rhetorical sense (really giving you the benefit of the doubt there). But, lets say they’re not and you genuinely mean them. You need to expound them a little more so I know what I’m dealing with here. While you’re at it, don’t forget to expand on your understanding of the definitions of intelligence, nature and nurture. Much obliged. I feal the N vs. N concept can be used in things like scateboarding or blinking contests and things alongthose lines that require nuturing in the form of practice. I believe nurturing can only capitalize on natural knowledhe already possesed. Even if it is a failure a Somali giving it a serious effort is a success as far as im concerned butyou have not even given that much. It raises questions of whether you think of important things or not and rather Somalis understand seriousness and logic and the benefits of brainstorming and science. I'm not being rhetorical and im looking for efforts as to why Somalis have bared no fruits of anykind. I'm wondering even with the qabil debacles why your efforts are vain. I wonder why you dont use your brains ¾ of the time (the ¼ resides in Somaliland who have stopped the BS for good i hope) and why you wouldnt try to think of making bomber plains to go over Ethiopia or why you wouldnt use war shifts crafted by bright minds to attack the Kenyan coast. Japan was not a incredibly reach nation before 1935 but the people still had plenty of ideas that ended up working and bringing them as far as it did. My exact definition of inteligence is :The ability to apply logic to things. To have a small bit of knowing of something and then think of orginal ways to add on to it. on a side note i feel comparable enough to not use my spell check sense i asume the Somalians on these boards will not associate bad grammar with being Somali on other boards and carry on about how i am in denial of my heritage and other false accuations that actually makes the finger pointer look more ignorant then the accused. think you.

Snow, The more i read your response the more i realize that you are one bitter brother because i have failed to understand one bit of the "Point" you made above. You arnt one of those pan-somalists who goes all the time "he aint somali he ****** hater probally tring to deny he somali so well ignoore him sense he so ****** walahi"? I've encounterd many a idiotic Somali but im counting on you all being smart sense this site has its rules. I wonder what would your reply be had Somalia been in the same position that Iraq and Iraqis find themselves in today because there are similarities between the two. Why Somalia didn't take back Djibouti or NFD or even Zone 5? ever asked yourself those Question mate? The U.S.S.R. must of fell in love with Abyssinia's sytimental historical value. But im really not sure why Russia jumped the fence and turned to Ethiopia. Still havent figured it out. Alot of things arnt clear about that powershift. If you can isolate the N. Frontier Dist. from the rest of Kenya i would asume you would only perform a half conquest of Djibouti leaving the remainder of the nation to change its name to Afarland. You couldnt take back the NFD because Kenya was able to push back all Somali(an) forces and an invasion would be condemed and stopped by the international comunity or a Superpower wouldve interferred against you. Instead of taking more lands i suggest you help yourselves out and just invite the Kenyan and Ethio-Somalis into your country. But my remarks comparing you to Japan's speed in weapon making was to show that had you acted like them Somalia would be 3 times its size today. I also think Siad Barre was taking his share of US aid and using it for vacations more then Somaliweyn and Pan-Somalism. With Gerald Ford backing your rediculous bismarkist war i would think Somalians would be more friendly towards Americans but looking at Abdillihi Yusuf's quick turn on the Somalilanders who helped him its clear Somalis are only interested in history that makes them look good (I can only imagine how thin your history boox are...). Im curious how would youall react to Afars seizing control of Djibouti and exiling the Issas to western Somalilander/northwest Somalian territory? Do you feal the Afars should have their own homeland? Would you settle for it if they offered 10% of Djiboutian territory? I bet you did but failed to come up with a meaningful resolution. like i said before "In my opinion Saddam Hussein was far better than any US or UK soldier would ever be and the unrest and the constant and continuous unnecessary deaths of Iraqi citizens will back my argument just like Siad Barre was far better than all these scavengers that are running around in our country today claiming to be our "Leaders". A man once said about the concept of choosing the lesser evil " you would choose a heart attack over cancer but i cant see why you wouldnt chose 'neither' " quote: The Japanese point is a bit more complex; they stood up to the might of America and almost succeeded for a multitude of reasons not intelligence alone. Not intelegence? Have Somalis acting like raving mad men come close to empire? List the reasons if you dispute please. If we go down the root that says the Japanese are more intelligent than the Somalis, we’ll inevitably have to ask for the criteria used to define “intelligenceâ€. This might then lead to discuss the old age argument of nurture versus nature. I mean not to be crual but the Somalis have shown no signs of natural intelegence. They have the ideas you dont. The N VS. N can be applied to things like scateboarding but not this. If Somalis think like anyone else were is the proof? There is no proof of a serious attempt and i think Somalians and the Japanese face the EXACT Same problems but in different ways so there is deffinently no nurture because you need nature to begin with to get nurture. If you couldnt naturaly think how would you be able to nurture your natural thoughts? Keep in mind it can be any date in Somali history but a bunch of old hags in the desert talking about Russia just doesnt cut it... With all due respect my friend, that post does not show any signs of intelligence either. I’m assuming that your questions are asked in a rhetorical sense (really giving you the benefit of the doubt there). But, lets say they’re not and you genuinely mean them. You need to expound them a little more so I know what I’m dealing with here. While you’re at it, don’t forget to expand on your understanding of the definitions of intelligence, nature and nurture. Much obliged. I feal the N vs. N concept can be used in things like scateboarding or blinking contests and things alongthose lines that require nuturing in the form of practice. I believe nurturing can only capitalize on natural knowledhe already possesed. Even if it is a failure a Somali giving it a serious effort is a success as far as im concerned butyou have not even given that much. It raises questions of whether you think of important things or not and rather Somalis understand seriousness and logic and the benefits of brainstorming and science. I'm not being rhetorical and im looking for efforts as to why Somalis have bared no fruits of anykind. I'm wondering even with the qabil debacles why your efforts are vain. I wonder why you dont use your brains ¾ of the time (the ¼ resides in Somaliland who have stopped the BS for good i hope) and why you wouldnt try to think of making bomber plains to go over Ethiopia or why you wouldnt use war shifts crafted by bright minds to attack the Kenyan coast. Japan was not a incredibly reach nation before 1935 but the people still had plenty of ideas that ended up working and bringing them as far as it did. My exact definition of inteligence is :The ability to apply logic to things. To have a small bit of knowing of something and then think of orginal ways to add on to it. on a side note i feel comparable enough to not use my spell check sense i asume the Somalians on these boards will not associate bad grammar with being Somali on other boards and carry on about how i am in denial of my heritage and other false accuations that actually makes the finger pointer look more ignorant then the accused. think you.

why does Somaliland (or africa in gen..) allow ex-tyrants to even be eligiable for office? Ditto for Somalia. Now ive heard of reccyling cans but not broken down autocrats :confused: :confused: :confused:

Do the words ****** War mean anything to you mate? As far as im concerned Iraq was not sovereign but a COLONY OF ONE MAN. The Japanese point is a bit more complex; they stood up to the might of America and almost succeeded for a multitude of reasons not intelligence alone. Not intelegence? Have Somalis acting like raving mad men come close to empire? List the reasons if you dispute please. If we go down the root that says the Japanese are more intelligent than the Somalis, we’ll inevitably have to ask for the criteria used to define “intelligenceâ€. This might then lead to discuss the old age argument of nurture versus nature. I mean not to be crual but the Somalis have shown no signs of natural intelegence. They have the ideas you dont. The N VS. N can be applied to things like scateboarding but not this. If Somalis think like anyone else were is the proof? There is no proof of a serious attempt and i think Somalians and the Japanese face the EXACT Same problems but in different ways so there is deffinently no nurture because you need nature to begin with to get nurture. If you couldnt naturaly think how would you be able to nurture your natural thoughts? Keep in mind it can be any date in Somali history but a bunch of old hags in the desert talking about Russia just doesnt cut it... I am by no means in a position to judge anybody but i know Saddam was far better than any colonial imperialist be it U.S or U.K. Peace. Dont sacrifice Anti-Americanism for logic. You never win when you do. I guess then the humiliation and the abuse that the people of Iraq suffered in the hands of Evil forces of US and UK is what you call a "Saint?" Humiliation? Why so much pride when you cant even take Kuwait? Pride is important but who are the Iraqis to brag? They are pretty adverage in my book and a whole lot of others. there are times in a man's life when death would be far better than living and in Iraqi people's case dying is the honorary thing to do right now. Dont be an ***** . Do you think US troops will stay in Iraq for as long as Saddam's term? How is it honorary and why want Iraq recover like the western European countries occupied? Do you wantto fight so u want look like a waste of life when you mess up and it gets compared to Japan after US occupation? I cant see why it cant be like the US in West Germany unless you want to cover up the fact you arnt capeble of brain activity. Explain how this occupation will very from South Korea, West Germany and Japan.

Do the words ****** War mean anything to you mate? As far as im concerned Iraq was not sovereign but a COLONY OF ONE MAN. The Japanese point is a bit more complex; they stood up to the might of America and almost succeeded for a multitude of reasons not intelligence alone. Not intelegence? Have Somalis acting like raving mad men come close to empire? List the reasons if you dispute please. If we go down the root that says the Japanese are more intelligent than the Somalis, we’ll inevitably have to ask for the criteria used to define “intelligenceâ€. This might then lead to discuss the old age argument of nurture versus nature. I mean not to be crual but the Somalis have shown no signs of natural intelegence. They have the ideas you dont. The N VS. N can be applied to things like scateboarding but not this. If Somalis think like anyone else were is the proof? There is no proof of a serious attempt and i think Somalians and the Japanese face the EXACT Same problems but in different ways so there is deffinently no nurture because you need nature to begin with to get nurture. If you couldnt naturaly think how would you be able to nurture your natural thoughts? Keep in mind it can be any date in Somali history but a bunch of old hags in the desert talking about Russia just doesnt cut it... I am by no means in a position to judge anybody but i know Saddam was far better than any colonial imperialist be it U.S or U.K. Peace. Dont sacrifice Anti-Americanism for logic. You never win when you do. I guess then the humiliation and the abuse that the people of Iraq suffered in the hands of Evil forces of US and UK is what you call a "Saint?" Humiliation? Why so much pride when you cant even take Kuwait? Pride is important but who are the Iraqis to brag? They are pretty adverage in my book and a whole lot of others. there are times in a man's life when death would be far better than living and in Iraqi people's case dying is the honorary thing to do right now. Dont be an ***** . Do you think US troops will stay in Iraq for as long as Saddam's term? How is it honorary and why want Iraq recover like the western European countries occupied? Do you wantto fight so u want look like a waste of life when you mess up and it gets compared to Japan after US occupation? I cant see why it cant be like the US in West Germany unless you want to cover up the fact you arnt capeble of brain activity. Explain how this occupation will very from South Korea, West Germany and Japan.

Do the words ****** War mean anything to you mate? As far as im concerned Iraq was not sovereign but a COLONY OF ONE MAN. The Japanese point is a bit more complex; they stood up to the might of America and almost succeeded for a multitude of reasons not intelligence alone. Not intelegence? Have Somalis acting like raving mad men come close to empire? List the reasons if you dispute please. If we go down the root that says the Japanese are more intelligent than the Somalis, we’ll inevitably have to ask for the criteria used to define “intelligenceâ€. This might then lead to discuss the old age argument of nurture versus nature. I mean not to be crual but the Somalis have shown no signs of natural intelegence. They have the ideas you dont. The N VS. N can be applied to things like scateboarding but not this. If Somalis think like anyone else were is the proof? There is no proof of a serious attempt and i think Somalians and the Japanese face the EXACT Same problems but in different ways so there is deffinently no nurture because you need nature to begin with to get nurture. If you couldnt naturaly think how would you be able to nurture your natural thoughts? Keep in mind it can be any date in Somali history but a bunch of old hags in the desert talking about Russia just doesnt cut it... I am by no means in a position to judge anybody but i know Saddam was far better than any colonial imperialist be it U.S or U.K. Peace. Dont sacrifice Anti-Americanism for logic. You never win when you do. I guess then the humiliation and the abuse that the people of Iraq suffered in the hands of Evil forces of US and UK is what you call a "Saint?" Humiliation? Why so much pride when you cant even take Kuwait? Pride is important but who are the Iraqis to brag? They are pretty adverage in my book and a whole lot of others. there are times in a man's life when death would be far better than living and in Iraqi people's case dying is the honorary thing to do right now. Dont be an ***** . Do you think US troops will stay in Iraq for as long as Saddam's term? How is it honorary and why want Iraq recover like the western European countries occupied? Do you wantto fight so u want look like a waste of life when you mess up and it gets compared to Japan after US occupation? I cant see why it cant be like the US in West Germany unless you want to cover up the fact you arnt capeble of brain activity. Explain how this occupation will very from South Korea, West Germany and Japan.

Snow the informer, Define an African for me please, saaxib. I would personally define an African as a citizen of a country that is geographically located in the continent called AFRICA. OKAY IF YOU WANT TO GET TECHNICAL IN THAT WAY ill get technical in this way. one could argue the Boars were in the right for pushing back Zulu, Swazi, and Xhosa-ian forces because some of them were born in Africa. There are Indians/Native Americans in North Americas along with Eskimoes/Inuits but they both cant be North Americans. An African is defined as a Negroid race occuping Africa and just because white and Arab invaders live there in no way means it is their homeland or that they arn't visitors for the long haul. This is the simple and most obvious definition. Others would agree with this, but they’ll also add that an African is someone who’s a native of Africa and is most likely to have BLACK skin. Some would even insist on the black skin part and discard any Africans that don’t fulfil that requirement. The Negroid African race is what it is regardless of skin tone. Is a Redheads any less white? Asuming the redhead isnt Faith Evens that is... You seem to be different; you don’t seem to follow any of these definitions in your post above! You’re calling the Sudanese conflict a RACE WAR! Are Africans made of different races or different cultures? If they’re different races, does that mean the skin colour is not being taken into consideration here? Take Sudan for instance, the two warring sides are black. One part refers to itself as African while the other refers to itself as Arab. They both reside in Africa! What gives, saaxib? So do the White south africans. Does that mean they are light skinned Botswanians now?! An Indian(N. America) and an Arab may have the same skin tone but will always be seperate races. Africa is made up of different cultures and occupied by different races. There is a huge difference in the latter. No the Arabs in Sudan are clearly racial Arabs or Moorish. I think Africans fear Arabs in Africa and i think a reason is Arabic-ists taking thingsd to high levels and the Oil. Even though Arabs scwounder there oil money like African leads do to the few revenues they have they could afford to by the propper things to face Africans head on in a full scale Race War and not run out of resources. The oil would keep them going strong is what im saying. The African crooks are just stilling from the core while the Arab crooks havent even reached the bottom of the pool yet. They claim Africans still have slavery today but those are uneducated whites jumping to conclusian who dont know the Arabs and Moors are on top of this. It is a clear Race War and the "Africans" as you called them arn't doing it because they are lighter but are in fact Arabs and any genologist or demograph reviewer will clear it up to u my Somali friend. What prompted him to join this site then? I suppose he couldn’t resist our great Somali wit and matchless intelligence. Dont get to flattered bub. I joined this site to learn more about Somaliland. Somaliland is on a list of other unrecognized countries im looking into. I have had success with Abkhazia but barely any with Bouganville, Kosovo, Checnya, South Ossetia, Ajaria, or Casamance and Cabinda but plenty with Somaliland. The level of refugees in modern countries probally laid heeth to sites like this.

are obsession with guns? i guessthat means somalians are obsessed with primitive clan war fare and fiefdoms along with corrupted 4-life goverments? who are u to call us violent when somalia doesnt even need a gov to act ignorant? why go to the almight former British Empire if u are willing to critisize our "good will ambasotoring"? typical somalian refugee bullshit. u guys cant get enough of it all can u?