lst the man is already a millionaire he is not worried about a few more dollars from mugdisho becuase if he did he wouldnt have done it. i think he now feels obliged to show a bit of a nationalist in him.

samurai i think that you are getting a bit too far ahead of yourself now. but you have developed a good logic which is a good thing to see in the opposition in a debate you concentrate the whole of the arguement on the fact that riyaale has been warned to take things MORE democratically and on the fact that he is SAID to be organising for a fourth security organisation. but fail to mention that riyaale has succesfully gotten 2 million pounds of an SOS chief to re-build sheikh secundary school. he also managed to lure gatari, japanese, omanse, pakistani and many more businessment in an possible investment. also you failed to mention the fact that the visit of mr wickstead was to finance the health and education ministries in somaliland. bro, how can you claim that you fairly raise somalilands good points and bad points when out of a possible 5 articles you mention the 2 bad points and ignore the 3 good points. that seem rather confused to me bro.

samurai bro, apology accepted.

is it wrong if somaliland businesses do not wish to celebrate the independence day of the south after all it hasent't got anything to do with them as it is not their independence day. why should they celebrate the independence day of another country? i myself feel it was a wrong thing to do by dahabshiil but if the man feels like that than it's his decision. he is a somalilander and if he feels that somalia's independence day does not concern him it's his choice. anyway why do you guys even care about a ****** calendar like that. it has no meaning whatso-ever. it is only a calendar after all.

samurai bro, let me first of all congratulate the somali people on their days of celebrating independence from those white dogs. i am happy in knowing that guys like you are still celebrating our days of independence which is difficult in the situation that the somali people are in. i would also like to apolgize for my last post if it made you feel offended which my nss-hawk seems to think has. you failed to excuse yourself out of the matter concerning hitler though bro. you said in one of your previous postings,that the reason that hitler mass-murdered jews was that he was half-jewish. when i made it obviuos that that was absurd to suggest you TRIED to back-paddle yourself out of the difficult position that you put yourself into by having a weak excuse like ''it was metaphorical'' as your defence. come on samurai i know you can do better.

i doubt that she will have a chance against those warlords. they have the abilty to kill whoever is in their way. they have the ability to manipulate their clans into believing that they will get them a democratic and welfare state but will eventually bring another chaotic sitaution about. i would have rooted for the woman if i though that he she had chance but we all know her chances are 100,000,000,000,: 1

samurai hitler was half-jewish and therefore would like to anihilate any-one from that religion? samurai, bro where do you get your reasoning from? if hitler was half-jewish then he would have respect and love for jewish people because he would lpve and respect his mother. i think you need to read the history books again because the reason that hitler hated the jews was becuase he thought that they were crippling the german economy. later on to express his hatred even more when he claimed that only aryans were gods pure children and that the jews were the constraint of germany becoming the 3RD reich. now the matter concerning the warlords. you go to anywhere where somali's live and you ask them what they think of warlords like morgan, abdulahi yusuf and xuseen caideed. they will that you they are filthy dogs that have brought somali civilizations to their knees. there is no evidence to convict them of crimes but their are 7 million witnesses. take morqan for example he was chief of staff in the army when he and gaani were put in charge of anihilating the clan that lives in the majority of northern somalia. morgan and gaani were the ones that killed up to 100,000 northerners and tortured raped pilaged innocen women. now are you telling that does not tell you that they are kafirs and will burn in hell? does that not tell you that they are warlords? or does your ilogical reasoning get in the way again

thanks mobb_deep

another candidate? how many do you guys have now? 40? or even more?

bari_nomad you seem to pounce on every single detail that has gone wrong in somaliland. first of all the article concerning mr wicksteads visit to hargeysa outlined that he was there becuase the british are going to assist the somaliland health and education ministries. however you failed to mention that but only mentioned the fact that mr wickstead ADVISED riyale that he must be democratic in his security policy. the new security organisation in somaliland should come very guikly to assist the somaliland police in getting rid of the people who hinder the progress of somaliland's citizens. those munafiqs will be punished for their ignorant deeds. pro-somaliweyn are more than welcome in somaliland however they must abide the somaliland laws if they dont well they are going to be punished for that. it's as simple as that.

samurai. so now you are also disputing the fact that people like morgan aato and yusuf are not warcriminals and are not the ones that brought somalia into the chaos that it is now? i guess you are now also going to tell us that hitler loved jews? what is the world coming to?????

yamac yare should have been imprisoned not deported.

BARI-NOMAD explain how somalis in the ogaden are more somali then somalilanders in the diaspora. they are also somali's living outside somalia like you and i are living outside somalia and in my case somaliland. i know you dream of them being part of somalia but you can dream all you want that is very unlikely to happen.

bari_nomad bro, i am not anti-somalia and i have nothing but respect for my brothers down south. the ones that i hate are those warlords you guys look up to, in the warlord conference in kenya. the crime that yamac yare commited was claiming to represent somaliland when our president had warned somalilanders that if someone did that he would face the consequences. he has obviously misrepresented the somaliland governement when he went to that warlord conference.

samurai i think you're being a bit hypocrtitical about this. edna aden is a great somali hero. she has all her lifesavings to build a much needed maternity facilty in hargeysa. now she is trying to show the world what a viable state somaliland is, you seem to think that she is only doing that to show what a garbage dump somalia has become. come on man she doesnt need to do that, every one already knows what a chaotic place somalia is. anywayz she hasnt lied about anything. it's true that no marines were dragged through the streets of hargeisa or isnt it? isnt it also true that there are no international troops in somaliland to keep peace? so i think you should calm down have a cup of tea and try and think of way you could make a contribution to a peacefull and beautiful somalia.

i think people in this forum take everything too serious. take lynx's comments on the people who live in the ogaden. first of all he called eskimos because they are isolated from their somali brothers and he also said ALL THE SOMALI'S that live in the ogaden. i know that there are many somali tribes that live in the ogaden and there propably are a few of his own clan. so i cant see where he mentioned any gabiilist atack. he should be banned for his namecalling of hornafrigue eventough he was probably just fooling around and one word of advise to hornafrque ''dont take it too serious.''

hello all eventough i am new in this forum i already new about this story concerning jamac yare. i think this whole story has been blown out of proportion. yamac yare fallsly claimed that he represented the people of somaliland in the somali reconciliation conference. how could he be representing people of state that he says doesnt even exist. yamac yare is a confused imbecile. all he thinks about is that when somaliland and somalia re-unite he will be rewarded a job in the government for his continuing determinination to unite the two states once again. the matter concerning his deportation i think has gone too far. eventough he went against somaliland law he should no be deported but imprisoned for his crime. if he was an american and declared that usa was not an independent state but should re-unite with the british would that not be agianst the usa constitution and therefore a crime. those people that claim that udub government are punishing him because of what happend in 94 between the government and tuur's militia are plainly ignorant. if that was the case half of the people in togdheer would be arrested. so that surely is not the reason that he was arrested. we dont really need to elaborate on this point too much because the point here is that jamac yare committed a crime agianst the somaliland state and has been punished for that.