Over 700 Somalis Demonstrated in Support for their Government!!!

It's a rhetorical question that will leave now room for suspicoun! The supernationalists will not be able to answer it! That's why they will avoid it at all costs because their fake nationalism and fake concern would shine through if they even vaguely attempted answering it the question!

Supernationalists here come's your challenge! This is the ultimate challenge to the likes of Castro and co! I got one question for them it's really simple, you ready: 'Do you recognise the TFG being your government although as much as you despise/detest them, you acknowledge the reality that they represent you and your present-day country of Somalia? Yes or No! Remember I did not ask you for any support or its legitimacy but: "If you contentedly or regretfully see that they're your representatives that will represent you and your country Somalia in international conferences around the globe although like many Americans you would detest the current regime of Bush but yet would acknowledge that their country is the United States of America, as for you guys the case is the same except for your country being Somalia! Do you agree Yes or No! Only a clear answer please and no waffle!

Excuse brother Xiin but the post you mistook was not directed towards you but the brother Northerner who I addressed and not you, so take it back yaa akhi!

Yaa Salaam! Al-Hamdulillaah! Thanks brother Xiin that you found sometime to take part in this thread! Brother I'm not saying you should participiate in the wrong actions of our leaders but that we should advice them according to the sunnah and away from civil strife and disaccord! There is no obedience in wrong/haraam actions but how to refute them is the answer? According to your logic we should all be in arms because you can not tell me one muslim country that today is run by a righteous muslim ruler according that of a righteous Imaam who rules with the book of Allaah! Also at the times of the Khulafas there were many oppressive, murderous and bad rulers amongst the muslims but never ever has the khawaarij doctrine of opposing those leaders by taking up arms/swords resulted in any good other then great calamities and fitan that has befallen its people until they'd wish they never start it! Our prophet also encouraged us to be steadfast and patient if we are ruled by unjust rulers and not resort into rebellion for as rebellion brings nothing good but unlawful killings of innocent muslims and the halalization of muslim wealth and blood! Khwaarijis are strong advocaters for as they see any ruler that makes a mistake for being a kaafir and they're very quick in labelling him into such allegation without justification! But let me ask you what good would such a disobedience to the rulers generate? I'm not saying obey him in the haraam, if he says 'drink alcohol', you say 'no' but what is your objection based on if I may ask? And how do you express it? Rushing to the swords you say? Well that's not a good solution because that would not bring forth any good outcome in fact it would worsen it and thereful becoming unlawful even if it is lawful because doing good which will lead to greater harm should not be done! On the other hand I thought you were sincere brother because if you'd have read carefully what I've written you would realise that it is the truth and actually makes sense! But you brother are advocating for a great evil that if would be allowed to befall the nation would kill many and know that you're accountable to Allaah on judgement day! What will you say to him? Brother calling our leaders kaafirs or refusing the obey them or rebellion against them leads to greater harm for as the khwaarij call for the removal of their leaders without any other solution! They want to rush to the swords without having an alternative but what say you brother? Open up your heart and expand your mind akhi, the ways of a khwaarij isn't befitting towards you and you should reject it totally because for khwaarij have no knowledge in the deen! Take more time to reflect brother!

And I'm after a sincere discussion my brother, I answered all your questions for you and if you don't mind refuting them, then say so that you are in agreement with them but if you disagree please refute my arguments with some counter arguments and evidence, shall we? Oh, I forgot! And please can we turn down the sentiments a bit? For as harbouring hatred and dislike will make it harder for you to accept the truth! I'm open-hearted and ready to accept new opinions as long as they're logical and don't controdict my religion but it seems brother that it's a bit difficult for you to do the same and not be affected by hate you got for the poster of this thread! That's not suspicioun brother but an good advice from mine side! You're a young person who should not be affected by accepting the truth because it is propagated by someone you dislike for whatever reasons! Refute my arguments I say and address them properly because I don't have time to say it a thousand times for you!

Mudaharaad aad u balaaran oo lagu Taageerayay Dowlada Federaalka ah iyo Hawlaha ay ka hayso Gudaha Dalka Soomaaliya, ayna ka Soo Qayb Galeen Boqolaal Qof oo ka mid ah Jaaliyada dalka Ingiriiska Dagan ayaa Maanta ka Dhacay Magaalada London. Mudaharaadkaan ayaa dhamaan dadkii ka soo qayb galay oo iyagu u mahad celiyay Ururada IGAD, AU, EU, UN, iyo dalalka Ethiopia Ingiriiska iyo Maraykankaba waxay maanta shucuurtooda ku muujiyeen Irida hore ee Madaxtooyada Dalka Ingiriiska. Waxaa amaanka iyo nabadgalyada dadka mudaharaadayay si taxadar leh u ilaalinayay Booliska Dalka Ingiriiska, iyada oo maalintii shalay ahaydna xubno hormuud u ah Urur Loogu Magacdaray Somali Concern Group oo si xad dhaaf ah u Taageeri jiray Midowgii Maxaakimiinta, kana mid ahaa wafdigii Maxaakimiinta ee horey u tagay dalka suudaan, iyaga oo horey u sheegatay inay yihiin lataliyayaasha xaga siyaasada ee Maxaakimiinta ay sheegeen inay qalalaase iyo is hortaag ku samayn doonaan Mudaharaadkaas, waxaase hawshii cagajuglaynta ahayd gacanta ku dhigay Booliska dalka Ingiriiska oo xiriir khatka taleefoonka ah la sameeyay xubnahaas inta ayna imaan goobta mudaharaadku uu ka dhacayayba. Mudaharaadkaan ayaa waxaa ka soo qayb galay soomaali farabadna oo aan horey loogu arki jirin goobaha soomaalidu ay isugu soo baxaan, iyada oo dhamaan dadkii Mudaharaadkaas Dowlada Federaalka ah lagu taageerayay waday ay siteen Boorar waawayn oo ay ku muujinayeen shucuurtooda wadaninimo oo ay ku taageerayaan Dowladooda. Qaar badan oo ka mid ah shacabka Mudaharaadayay ayaa ku hadaaqayay erayo ay ka mid ahaayeen, Maanta ayay Mustaqbalka caruurteenii inoo hagaagtay, dalkeeniina waxa uu haystaa wadadii lagu gaari lahaa nabad waarta, iyo ereyo kale oo ay ku boorinayeen dowlada federaalka ah inay hubka ka uruuriso gacmaha shacabka soomaaliyeed Idamaale News

Mudaharaad aad u balaaran oo lagu Taageerayay Dowlada Federaalka ah iyo Hawlaha ay ka hayso Gudaha Dalka Soomaaliya, ayna ka Soo Qayb Galeen Boqolaal Qof oo ka mid ah Jaaliyada dalka Ingiriiska Dagan ayaa Maanta ka Dhacay Magaalada London. Mudaharaadkaan ayaa dhamaan dadkii ka soo qayb galay oo iyagu u mahad celiyay Ururada IGAD, AU, EU, UN, iyo dalalka Ethiopia Ingiriiska iyo Maraykankaba waxay maanta shucuurtooda ku muujiyeen Irida hore ee Madaxtooyada Dalka Ingiriiska. Waxaa amaanka iyo nabadgalyada dadka mudaharaadayay si taxadar leh u ilaalinayay Booliska Dalka Ingiriiska, iyada oo maalintii shalay ahaydna xubno hormuud u ah Urur Loogu Magacdaray Somali Concern Group oo si xad dhaaf ah u Taageeri jiray Midowgii Maxaakimiinta, kana mid ahaa wafdigii Maxaakimiinta ee horey u tagay dalka suudaan, iyaga oo horey u sheegatay inay yihiin lataliyayaasha xaga siyaasada ee Maxaakimiinta ay sheegeen inay qalalaase iyo is hortaag ku samayn doonaan Mudaharaadkaas, waxaase hawshii cagajuglaynta ahayd gacanta ku dhigay Booliska dalka Ingiriiska oo xiriir khatka taleefoonka ah la sameeyay xubnahaas inta ayna imaan goobta mudaharaadku uu ka dhacayayba. Mudaharaadkaan ayaa waxaa ka soo qayb galay soomaali farabadna oo aan horey loogu arki jirin goobaha soomaalidu ay isugu soo baxaan, iyada oo dhamaan dadkii Mudaharaadkaas Dowlada Federaalka ah lagu taageerayay waday ay siteen Boorar waawayn oo ay ku muujinayeen shucuurtooda wadaninimo oo ay ku taageerayaan Dowladooda. Qaar badan oo ka mid ah shacabka Mudaharaadayay ayaa ku hadaaqayay erayo ay ka mid ahaayeen, Maanta ayay Mustaqbalka caruurteenii inoo hagaagtay, dalkeeniina waxa uu haystaa wadadii lagu gaari lahaa nabad waarta, iyo ereyo kale oo ay ku boorinayeen dowlada federaalka ah inay hubka ka uruuriso gacmaha shacabka soomaaliyeed Idamaale News

Brother I shall in due time inshallaah but the khwaarij need a long time of convincing before they actually see the logic behind my arguments! I particularly posted this thread for Xiin but he's no where to be seen because he doesn't have any arguments to refute the said! All other's have went silent aswell! But before you go akhi may I suggest reading few glimpses of the article below written by a great islamic scholar of the last centuary Sheikh Muhammed Nasiruddin Al-Albaani! Here it is: Purification and Education Because we know the firmly established reality, which is being neglected or more accurately purposely neglected, by those extremists who do not have anything except that they proclaim Takfeer of the rulers, and then nothing else!! And they continue to proclaim Takfeer of the rulers then nothing stems from them, or about them, except discord and strife!! The calamities in these past few years which have been by the hands of these people, beginning from the discord (fitnah) of the Haraam of Makkah to the dissension in Egypt and the killing of Sadaat. Finally, in Syria and now in Egypt and Algeria- a sight that everyone can see; the shedding of the blood of many of the innocent Muslims because of these fitn, tribulations, and the occurrence of many trials and calamities. All of this because they opposed many of the texts from the Book and the Sunnah and the most important of which is: "Indeed in the Messenger of Allaah you have a good example to follow, for him who hopes in the meeting with Allaah and the Last Day and remembers Allaah much." If we really want to establish the rule of Allaah on the earth – in reality not just in a claim - then do we start with making Takfeer of the rulers while it is not possible for us to confront them – let alone fighting them - or do we start – with the obligation - the Messenger of Allaah - SallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam - started with? There is no doubt that the answer is: "Indeed in the Messenger of Allaah you have a good example to follow……" But what did the Messenger of Allaah - SallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam -begin with? It is known – with certainty - to anyone who has smelt the fragrance of knowledge that he began with the Daw’ah between individuals whom he thought were ready to accept the truth. Then whoever was ready to respond to him, from the individuals of the noble Companions responded to him - as it is well known in the prophetic biography. Then the punishment and the severity befell these Muslims in Makkah. After that came the command for the first migration and the second until Allaah Azza wa Jal consolidated Islaam in al-Madeena al-Munnawara. From there began the skirmishes and the opposition. Also, the fighting between the Muslims and the kuffaar on one side and the Jews from the other.……etc. Therefore it is necessary for us to begin by teaching the people the true Islaam; like the Messenger - SallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam - had begun. Now we cannot just confine ourselves to teaching alone, because things have entered into Islaam which are not from it, and has no association with Islaam, from the bida' and innovations which were the reason for the clear downfall of the lofty status of Islaam. Because of this it is obligatory upon those inviting to Islaam to begin with purification of Islaam from what has entered into it. The first principle – “Purification” The second principle – “Education” The education that is associated with this purification is the education of the young active Muslims on this pure Islaam. If we study the reality of the Islaamic groups which have existed, for nearly a generation, and their ideas and the practice of these ideas. We would find that many of them have not benefited themselves, nor have they benefited others with anything that can be remembered! Despite their outcry and noise, that they want an Islaamic government!! Which was a reason of spilling blood of the innocent with this baseless argument!! Without them having realised anything from it. We continue to hear from their beliefs which are opposed to the Book and Sunnah and actions which are negated by the Book and Sunnah, let alone them trying, again and again with futile attempts which oppose the Sharia'. Finally I say: there is a statement which one of the propagators of Islaam said, which I used to hope that his followers would adhere to it and fulfill it, which is: 'Establish the Islaamic state in your heart it will be established for you on the earth.' Because If a Muslim corrects his Aqeedah built upon the Book and Sunnah, then there is no doubt that from this he will correct his worship, correct his behavior and his manners etc. But, with regret, these fine words have not been acted upon by these people, they persist with an outcry to establish the Islaamic state but without any benefit! and it is said about them – and I swear by Allaah to this - what the poet said is true: You hope for success and you do not follow its path Indeed a ship does not sail on dry land. Perhaps in this what I have mentioned is persuasive enough for every just person, and a termination for every oppressor. We seek Allaah's help.

We see face to face here brother, I know what you're talking about it's essential in what the ICU have failed in or couldn't see! You detest their methods but are following it yourself! So I put this challenge to you what would you do? What is your tactic? What I'm advocating for is really easy for a lasting islamic revolution to take place there are some stepping points to consider carefully before embarking on it! All I'm saying is let's come together, spread the Dawah agree on a strategy to follow, the preach it to the people and after the purication and teaching process embark on that revolution with your fellow brothers you see eye to eye with and I will not fall out with over patty ideological differences! It's a process brother before you can walk you're not going to run i.e. as a baby you had to learn first how to walk then gradually could you run but how if you proposed to run before you could actually walk? Maybe you were a genious and could 'run' without first learning how to walk but then again how could a person without brain/legs run? It's only logical what I'm talking about brother think it through! We all are against invasion and US support but what can you do brother is the question? You say we shouldn't accept such govermnent but what are you advocating for 'civil strife', that will even give more reasons to our enemy to kill us further and many people would die needlessly! Think about the many people who would die in a guerilla warfare? I say if this government interfere's with our relgion i.e. You can't pray, you've to eat pork and you must fornicate and take usuary then no but that is not the case! Yes you viewed your objections but again I've to ask what is the alternative? The same goes to the rest of the muslim nations! Look at nations in where the khawaarij resisted their countries such as Egypt, Syria and Algeria! The Khawaarij in Algeria were waging a war in their country because their countries leaders were supposedly 'kaafir' and they kissed up to the french! What have they achieved in Algeria brother other than putting their people at harms way? Think of it, I say no to hasty revolutions that will fail but 'yes' to purification and teaching of our nation and uniting the different viewpoints amongst the salaf followers only i.e. people that follow the right aqaaid! But to call your leaders unislamic or kaafir or rebellion will not lead us to nowhere except it will open the gates of hell for us! In terms of trials and tribulations and further chaos and anarchy! Think brother before you embark on such act your soul has to purified and that of the nation aswell because there is many unislamic innovations and thought patterns that have been added to our relgion and those are we needed to eradicate from our minds and souls! Gradual steps akhi if you're sincere about an islamic rule to happen or the country being ruled under proper Islamic Sharia Law and Somslis would be the first inshallaah but it takes time! That's why I say look at the sunnah and study it! The prophet peace be upon him was living for 13 years amongst Quraish polytheists that were harming him and his followers and he was patient, he did not rebel against their rule despite to what evil they were inflicting on him and his followers! Then he moved/migrated to Madinah were he established a government with building an alliance witht he jews of that holy city to protect the interests of the muslims and their state from the arab polytheists that want to harm it! Then gradually the muslims became strong, the signed a peace treaty at Xudaybiyah with the Quraish for a intial period of 10 years after some protest because some of the muslism didn't see the wisdom behind that treaty and were upset because they thought it was a defeat and humiliation (couldn't perform the hajj and had to go back and had to hand over 'muslims' i.e. men that converted to Islaam back to Makkah and the polytheists and mushirks)! Brother that's why I'm always iretrating for us to follow the sunnah because never has a revolution happened over a night without people that are willing to carry out who share the same belief and aqeedah, are united, have the support of the people and have a leader a Amiir that can coordinate their affairs in what they set out to do! All I'm saying is don't attempt to run when you can't walk because if you do, you will most probably fail! Aweys and the rest of his friends will never learn because they're classic khwaarij followers who have limited knowledge regarding on how to bring about real and lasting change that will benefit the people of our country!

Beautiful Pictures you got there Libaax thanks for sharing! Ahem, I guess it is only logical and befitting for me to rep my own city inshallaah! First up our beautiful and most famous 'square': During night time it's breathtaking, very scary so if you want to risk your life give it a visit during 18:00-06:00 in the morning! Anyway here we don't have many square's but rather circuses afterall this is England! One famous square pardon me circus is Piccadilly Circus! 'Unofficial' Employment office or as we call it here 'Jobcentre' (centre not center)! It's a Illegal work market, where people have to register at the fountain, also the people you can see are throwing 15% of their earned wages into the fountain, it's very much tolerated as the government here turns a blind eye! All in all our Circuses are really unique and the best!

Originally poste by sister Aisha: I also seek your forgivness for upsetting you.....and I was kinda rude(I called you a fool, sorry). Forgiven and forgotten inshallaah!

Inshallaah in 2009 but he will be eligible for re-election for another three years, then he has to go indefinately inshallaah! The same for Afqurac, Puntlands VP!

Inshallaah in 2009 but he will be eligible for re-election for another three years, then he has to go indefinately inshallaah! The same for Afqurac, Puntlands VP!

Inshallaah in 2009 but he will be eligible for re-election for another three years, then he has to go indefinately inshallaah! The same for Afqurac, Puntlands VP!

Yeah in America they have Governors, in Canada they have Premiers, in Germany they have Minister Presidents and in Ethiopia they have Presidents alas the Title President of the Somali region! This people don't have any knowledge about the concept of federalism! Some even think after the TFG expires Somali will return to central government! Educate yourself about the system I say! P.s. Duke it's working check out allsbc.com inshallah!

Yeah in America they have Governors, in Canada they have Premiers, in Germany they have Minister Presidents and in Ethiopia they have Presidents alas the Title President of the Somali region! This people don't have any knowledge about the concept of federalism! Some even think after the TFG expires Somali will return to central government! Educate yourself about the system I say! P.s. Duke it's working check out allsbc.com inshallah!

Yeah in America they have Governors, in Canada they have Premiers, in Germany they have Minister Presidents and in Ethiopia they have Presidents alas the Title President of the Somali region! This people don't have any knowledge about the concept of federalism! Some even think after the TFG expires Somali will return to central government! Educate yourself about the system I say! P.s. Duke it's working check out allsbc.com inshallah!

Now brother but how can we oppose oppresion is the answer? Is it the sunnah for the ulama of this deen to preach from the mimbar to stand up and burn down houses and kill people in police uniform? No brother that is not the way, Jihaad is a tenet of our religion and the only way to bring back our lost dignity but how should we attained it is the question? Today in this world if we go with the logic of the khawaarij all of us are 'kaafirs' because we tolerate the rule of muslims who don't rule accoridng to the Islamic Sharia! "Also all those rulers should be forced out by force and be killed also all that are perceived of supporting them in silence", brother if were to go by that the whole muslim world would be in flames! Because today there is no real Islamic country that follows the deen according to our Prophet peace be upon him or rules with the holy book! Now here's the tricky question, what are we going to do about it? Advocate for civil strife and rebellion? Without having a common aqeedah (belief pattern) because you know how devided muslims are and without having the necessary leadership Amiir in place and the support of the people and the weaponary to defeat the enemy? I guess all those things are not needed,when we can do a rebellion in a disorganised and a messy way! First of all what we need is Purification of the ummah and teaching, elect an Amiir that will coordinate the muslims to wage jihaad on their enemies and look after their affairs but brother all I'm saying is 'lets follow the sunnah and stop listening to individuals that only call for civil strife without an alternative, all they can call for is that person is a kaafir and let's take our swords to kill them'! Brother the ulama of this deen have a duty to tell the leaders about their mistake but not in public, they should make suppliactions for them and not like the khawaarij call for civil strife and rebellion that will create even a greater fitnah! The ulama have to be righteous and curious but condemn the leader from the pulpit isn't the sunnah, they go and talk to the President in private and present their concerns to him in private and they should not be fearful of it! They can condemn the evil within a society or what is wrong from their pulpits without naming anyone because if they did it would create confusion and chaos and disunity within the people! Condemn the actions without calling for the heads of your leaders is the sensible way forward brother and raise your concern to the president in person or writing and if they refuse make supplication for them but not cause destruction by futile revolutions that is the sign of real scholoars in Islaam! What good have these people the 'khaawrij' ever brought about other than blood and destruction? Why are all those rebellions and revolutions failing brother? Because it is for the simple fact that they have no other vision than disposing of their leaders, although they do not share a common aqeedah and therefore are disunited themselves and they're not following the Sunnah of the Prophet peace be upon him!

A reporter from SBC TV: Presidential Palace guards: Same reporter:

A reporter from SBC TV: Presidential Palace guards: Same reporter: