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Last minute manoeuvring to prevent war in Mogadishu
Fiqikhayre replied to Fiqikhayre's topic in Politics
It's 10:00 am London time and I'm very confident that there will be no war at all. I expect a comprehensive ceasefire to be agreed on. Already the clan movement vacated all the areas they were defending in the first place. They have dispersed into the neighbourhoods so that nobody recognises them. This is a sign that they don't want to fight and that they willl accept any condition levied on them. Count me on that. Sakhar. -
Last minute manoeuvring to prevent war in Mogadishu
Fiqikhayre replied to Fiqikhayre's topic in Politics
War has been averted and avoided and it will not happenen at all. The clan movement elders fianlly came to their senses and now are giving in to the demands. If they as I believe have the power and influence to implement this latest conditions of this latest ceasefire put on them, then there will be no war. Count me on that. Sakhar. -
Last minute manoeuvring to prevent war in Mogadishu
Fiqikhayre replied to Fiqikhayre's topic in Politics
War has been averted and avoided and it will not happenen at all. The clan movement elders fianlly came to their senses and now are giving in to the demands. If they as I believe have the power and influence to implement this latest conditions of this latest ceasefire put on them, then there will be no war. Count me on that. Sakhar. -
Last minute manoeuvring to prevent war in Mogadishu
Fiqikhayre replied to Fiqikhayre's topic in Politics
War has been averted and avoided and it will not happenen at all. The clan movement elders fianlly came to their senses and now are giving in to the demands. If they as I believe have the power and influence to implement this latest conditions of this latest ceasefire put on them, then there will be no war. Count me on that. Sakhar. -
Last minute manoeuvring to prevent war in Mogadishu
Fiqikhayre replied to Fiqikhayre's topic in Politics
Wisdom of political observation by Sakhar. Will his latest prediction come true this time as well? Count me on that inshallah. But will they be able to deliver or will they as usual make false promises they cannot hold nor achieve? We shall wait and see the outcome inshallah. Anyhow the negotiatons and talks between the odayaal and the Ethiopian commanders are on. Will they this time reach an agreement with the Ethiopians and subsequently betray the few elements, that they first propelled into power as a disguise and whose strings they were pulling behind the scenes? I think so this time they will do that because as they first used them as a political tool, this time they will have no moral qualms to discard them as well and thus avoid the onslaught and war. I believe war will be averted and a deal of some sort will be reached. Count me on that. This is a very political issue and very complex and the ramifications shall be awaited inshallah. This will end with an betrayal of some sort and it will be clear for every Somali, that there was nothing muslim or islamic about this people's political stance. Count me on that. Inshallah we shall see what will surface. I believe a deal will be reached and that they will come to their senses and thus give in to the demands and see that a continuation of this conflict will only harm them. Fear and the possibility of a war they can hardly afford to lose made them make this decision and therefore blow up their political disguise intended to keep the loot. I knew it. Sakhar. -
Last minute manoeuvring to prevent war in Mogadishu
Fiqikhayre replied to Fiqikhayre's topic in Politics
Wisdom of political observation by Sakhar. Will his latest prediction come true this time as well? Count me on that inshallah. But will they be able to deliver or will they as usual make false promises they cannot hold nor achieve? We shall wait and see the outcome inshallah. Anyhow the negotiatons and talks between the odayaal and the Ethiopian commanders are on. Will they this time reach an agreement with the Ethiopians and subsequently betray the few elements, that they first propelled into power as a disguise and whose strings they were pulling behind the scenes? I think so this time they will do that because as they first used them as a political tool, this time they will have no moral qualms to discard them as well and thus avoid the onslaught and war. I believe war will be averted and a deal of some sort will be reached. Count me on that. This is a very political issue and very complex and the ramifications shall be awaited inshallah. This will end with an betrayal of some sort and it will be clear for every Somali, that there was nothing muslim or islamic about this people's political stance. Count me on that. Inshallah we shall see what will surface. I believe a deal will be reached and that they will come to their senses and thus give in to the demands and see that a continuation of this conflict will only harm them. Fear and the possibility of a war they can hardly afford to lose made them make this decision and therefore blow up their political disguise intended to keep the loot. I knew it. Sakhar. -
Last minute manoeuvring to prevent war in Mogadishu
Fiqikhayre replied to Fiqikhayre's topic in Politics
Wisdom of political observation by Sakhar. Will his latest prediction come true this time as well? Count me on that inshallah. But will they be able to deliver or will they as usual make false promises they cannot hold nor achieve? We shall wait and see the outcome inshallah. Anyhow the negotiatons and talks between the odayaal and the Ethiopian commanders are on. Will they this time reach an agreement with the Ethiopians and subsequently betray the few elements, that they first propelled into power as a disguise and whose strings they were pulling behind the scenes? I think so this time they will do that because as they first used them as a political tool, this time they will have no moral qualms to discard them as well and thus avoid the onslaught and war. I believe war will be averted and a deal of some sort will be reached. Count me on that. This is a very political issue and very complex and the ramifications shall be awaited inshallah. This will end with an betrayal of some sort and it will be clear for every Somali, that there was nothing muslim or islamic about this people's political stance. Count me on that. Inshallah we shall see what will surface. I believe a deal will be reached and that they will come to their senses and thus give in to the demands and see that a continuation of this conflict will only harm them. Fear and the possibility of a war they can hardly afford to lose made them make this decision and therefore blow up their political disguise intended to keep the loot. I knew it. Sakhar. -
This are the latest developments in the capital of Somalia inshallah. I told you yesterday that the odayaal of the clan movement were very idotic in their refusal to deliver on the things they promised. It is either they disarm and eject the marked men amongst them or face the onslaught. They're devided and a conflict (political conflict that is but not militaristic) within themselves cannot be ruled out. They're already scared of the prospect of war and thus have vacated all the positions and areas they occupied previously. They left without a hint. Now talks and last minute negotiations to avoid a war are taking place between the Ethiopian commanders and the odayaal of the clan movement. They want to discuss and give in to the demands and the things that they have refused yesterday because they know that the Ethiopians mean business. But how much of a power do they have within their own ranks given that there are some elements who will not accept any ultimatums, will they betray them and if so, what will be its consequence? Inshallah we will see, if the folks that came into existence last year ago are the prime drivers of this or the man that are leading the clan movement right now. They are both aligned and if one betrays the other and I presume it is the more dominant and powerful of the group that is doing the betraying, it will become evident to all somalis that this was an disguise and in fact a clan orientated movement. We shall wait and see. Can they bring forth this marked men and their arsenal? I don't think they will come peacefully but rather only by farce. So will the odayaal make them come out by force and hand them over to the Ethiopians or will they continue with their resistence? I think alot of important things are at stake here and they might be just tempted but will they agree to the Ethiopian demands and if so can they? Do they have the power to decide? I do believe they certainly have the power and that the marked men Ethiopia is looking for, is a mere minority. And they will have no moral qualms in ejecting them from amongst their midst because they were first used a some kind of political cover and if there's the need today, they can also be discarded. Let's wait and see inshallah. They are urged to come to the government in order to voice their opinions and grievances and to find a solution, whereby the anti-government elements and marked men can be disarmed and brought to justice. But will they be able to deliver or will they as usual make false promises they cannot hold nor achieve? We shall wait and see the outcome inshallah. Anyhow the negotiatons and talks between the odayaal and the Ethiopian commanders are on. Will they this time reach an agreement with the Ethiopians and subsequently betray the few elements, that they first propelled into power as a disguise and whose strings they were pulling behind the scenes? I think so this time they will do that because as they first used them as a political tool, this time they will have no moral qualms to discard them as well and thus avoid the onslaught and war. I believe war will be averted and a deal of some sort will be reached. Count me on that. This is a very political issue and very complex and the ramifications shall be awaited inshallah. This will end with an betrayal of some sort and it will be clear for every Somali, that there was nothing muslim or islamic about this people's political stance. Count me on that. Inshallah we shall see what will surface. I believe a deal will be reached and that they will come to their senses and thus give in to the demands and see that a continuation of this conflict will only harm them. Fear and the possibility of a war they can hardly afford to lose made them make this decision and therefore blow up their political disguise intended to keep the loot. I knew it. Sakhar.
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This are the latest developments in the capital of Somalia inshallah. I told you yesterday that the odayaal of the clan movement were very idotic in their refusal to deliver on the things they promised. It is either they disarm and eject the marked men amongst them or face the onslaught. They're devided and a conflict (political conflict that is but not militaristic) within themselves cannot be ruled out. They're already scared of the prospect of war and thus have vacated all the positions and areas they occupied previously. They left without a hint. Now talks and last minute negotiations to avoid a war are taking place between the Ethiopian commanders and the odayaal of the clan movement. They want to discuss and give in to the demands and the things that they have refused yesterday because they know that the Ethiopians mean business. But how much of a power do they have within their own ranks given that there are some elements who will not accept any ultimatums, will they betray them and if so, what will be its consequence? Inshallah we will see, if the folks that came into existence last year ago are the prime drivers of this or the man that are leading the clan movement right now. They are both aligned and if one betrays the other and I presume it is the more dominant and powerful of the group that is doing the betraying, it will become evident to all somalis that this was an disguise and in fact a clan orientated movement. We shall wait and see. Can they bring forth this marked men and their arsenal? I don't think they will come peacefully but rather only by farce. So will the odayaal make them come out by force and hand them over to the Ethiopians or will they continue with their resistence? I think alot of important things are at stake here and they might be just tempted but will they agree to the Ethiopian demands and if so can they? Do they have the power to decide? I do believe they certainly have the power and that the marked men Ethiopia is looking for, is a mere minority. And they will have no moral qualms in ejecting them from amongst their midst because they were first used a some kind of political cover and if there's the need today, they can also be discarded. Let's wait and see inshallah. They are urged to come to the government in order to voice their opinions and grievances and to find a solution, whereby the anti-government elements and marked men can be disarmed and brought to justice. But will they be able to deliver or will they as usual make false promises they cannot hold nor achieve? We shall wait and see the outcome inshallah. Anyhow the negotiatons and talks between the odayaal and the Ethiopian commanders are on. Will they this time reach an agreement with the Ethiopians and subsequently betray the few elements, that they first propelled into power as a disguise and whose strings they were pulling behind the scenes? I think so this time they will do that because as they first used them as a political tool, this time they will have no moral qualms to discard them as well and thus avoid the onslaught and war. I believe war will be averted and a deal of some sort will be reached. Count me on that. This is a very political issue and very complex and the ramifications shall be awaited inshallah. This will end with an betrayal of some sort and it will be clear for every Somali, that there was nothing muslim or islamic about this people's political stance. Count me on that. Inshallah we shall see what will surface. I believe a deal will be reached and that they will come to their senses and thus give in to the demands and see that a continuation of this conflict will only harm them. Fear and the possibility of a war they can hardly afford to lose made them make this decision and therefore blow up their political disguise intended to keep the loot. I knew it. Sakhar.
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This are the latest developments in the capital of Somalia inshallah. I told you yesterday that the odayaal of the clan movement were very idotic in their refusal to deliver on the things they promised. It is either they disarm and eject the marked men amongst them or face the onslaught. They're devided and a conflict (political conflict that is but not militaristic) within themselves cannot be ruled out. They're already scared of the prospect of war and thus have vacated all the positions and areas they occupied previously. They left without a hint. Now talks and last minute negotiations to avoid a war are taking place between the Ethiopian commanders and the odayaal of the clan movement. They want to discuss and give in to the demands and the things that they have refused yesterday because they know that the Ethiopians mean business. But how much of a power do they have within their own ranks given that there are some elements who will not accept any ultimatums, will they betray them and if so, what will be its consequence? Inshallah we will see, if the folks that came into existence last year ago are the prime drivers of this or the man that are leading the clan movement right now. They are both aligned and if one betrays the other and I presume it is the more dominant and powerful of the group that is doing the betraying, it will become evident to all somalis that this was an disguise and in fact a clan orientated movement. We shall wait and see. Can they bring forth this marked men and their arsenal? I don't think they will come peacefully but rather only by farce. So will the odayaal make them come out by force and hand them over to the Ethiopians or will they continue with their resistence? I think alot of important things are at stake here and they might be just tempted but will they agree to the Ethiopian demands and if so can they? Do they have the power to decide? I do believe they certainly have the power and that the marked men Ethiopia is looking for, is a mere minority. And they will have no moral qualms in ejecting them from amongst their midst because they were first used a some kind of political cover and if there's the need today, they can also be discarded. Let's wait and see inshallah. They are urged to come to the government in order to voice their opinions and grievances and to find a solution, whereby the anti-government elements and marked men can be disarmed and brought to justice. But will they be able to deliver or will they as usual make false promises they cannot hold nor achieve? We shall wait and see the outcome inshallah. Anyhow the negotiatons and talks between the odayaal and the Ethiopian commanders are on. Will they this time reach an agreement with the Ethiopians and subsequently betray the few elements, that they first propelled into power as a disguise and whose strings they were pulling behind the scenes? I think so this time they will do that because as they first used them as a political tool, this time they will have no moral qualms to discard them as well and thus avoid the onslaught and war. I believe war will be averted and a deal of some sort will be reached. Count me on that. This is a very political issue and very complex and the ramifications shall be awaited inshallah. This will end with an betrayal of some sort and it will be clear for every Somali, that there was nothing muslim or islamic about this people's political stance. Count me on that. Inshallah we shall see what will surface. I believe a deal will be reached and that they will come to their senses and thus give in to the demands and see that a continuation of this conflict will only harm them. Fear and the possibility of a war they can hardly afford to lose made them make this decision and therefore blow up their political disguise intended to keep the loot. I knew it. Sakhar.
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The relationship between individualistic thinking and collective brainwashing and their effects on society is one independent and scientific introduction we have to first master before going on to conduct the original scientific research of the collective thinking of Somalis as communities and the individualistic views that are undermined by brainwashing, propaganda, historical, psychological and social effects. This will be my introduction inshallah and then I shall highlight what makes SOL nomads think like they do and the things they write but if you actually examine it carefully and read between the lines one will see, after connecting the relevant dots + historical, social and psychological effects on the persons identity one will actually come to see and realise, that the opinions held by this people have the same 'origin' as they have been subjected to the same propaganda, socialisation and brainwashing but what happens if there's a break and people think independently to make room for their individualistic views and opinions to take place. As I said earlier we are never free of influences we are daily influenced whether it be a sibling of ours or work colleague or the society we live in. Opinions vary and they are shaped but most people are fed opinions they did not think over carefully themselves or never examined. For them it is the truth, why would otherwise ones parents agree with this political viewpoint we're not talking religion here but Somali politics and the home shaped opinions and viewpoints some of us display here without ever questioning or examining them. Well it's getting really complex so I shall leave it at that inshallah. Sakhar. PS. Read my long post at the end of page two inshallah as this reflects and gives real justice to what I'm trying to do here.
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Xoogsade I'm not interested in psychoanalysing you because I'm not interested examining people's individualistic mindset but rather more the collective mindset of certain people who think alike. We might think of ourselves to be holding our own independent viewpoints but what makes certain people of certain places have the same way of thinking? I believe that it is historical and social events that make up our complex way to view certain things as we view them. Opinions are shaped and made from those historical and social events. Add this to the propaganda and daily brainwashing activities one is subjected too and those propaganda and brainwashing activities make us think along with the community we are most confident with and that would be ones own community. However, what happens if there's a break down of this propaganda? People will start to judge things without having any influences and being subjected to propaganda that appeals to them to think not as an individual but as in blocks of groups. Once this barrier is broken down, people will start to think independently but we're never free from influences. Our opinions are made from historical, social events, socialising with siblings and taking their way of thinking or having the same views as your father, by listening to propaganda broadcast or reading materials that help us to form and make up a viewpoint of our own. Of course religion is a force in peoples making of opinions but this is not about religion but people's attitude and shaping of political opinions and viewpoints in the 21 centaury especially Somalia. People might now say that their political viewpoints or opinions are based on Islam but I tend to disagree today in Somalia our viewpoints and opinions are shaped by experience and collective community thinking. This is not a light or easy task but a rather really complex scientific undertaking and research on my behalf. So if you want a personal psychoanalysis on your mindset, would you mind if I recommend you taking up one where you are I believe you're in Minneapolis? I hear they have got people who are very good in that subject. However let me tell you once again this is a scientific research on the existence of individualistic views and what makes people think alike and in blocks and therefore side with their 'community' although their 'communities' viewpoints might be perceived as wrong by the vast majority of others, who are either connected or unconnected, effected or unaffected by this people and their viewpoints. So this is rather complex Xoogsade and I'm not interested as I said before what people think as individuals because most individuals minds are somehow brainwashed, that is if they allow themselves to be brainwashed by the propaganda and go with the sentiments and viewpoints of the crowd. How many of us here are struggling to think independently and try to challenge some of the universal viewpoints, political I mean, some of our own communities are holding? Is it a coincidence that so many people 'think' or base their political viewpoints in agreements with that what the majority of the people in their own country or community think? Think of it I say. This is an examination of why people follow the same views as communities or think alike and in blocks and if individualistic thinking actually exists and if it does, what is actually undermining it. Islam as you know encourages people to think independently and consult their religion rather following the 'ignorant masses' but this is not a religious debate but a debate in which I shall examine 21 centaury psychological thinking of Somalis as a collective block of communities and why individualistic thinking is so undermined and discouraged and what causes and effects brainwashing and propaganda has on that community and why we think in blocks rather as independent individuals and why it is a coincidence that most of our views rightly or wrongly coincide with that of the majority viewpoint and consensus of our respected communities. I know Xoogsade it is difficult and complex and it is beyond of the grasp of some people but you should know me by know that I rather think on issues that are very complex and I always manage to make this complex issues seem like very easy to understand with my unique way of describing such phenomena. So I'm not interested in individuals but the collective thinking of some people in here and how it relates to each other. I know its complex. Sakhar.
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I made necessary grammatical corrections to my first post so people kindly read in full what I have written and tell me what you agree on or disagree with. I would very much appreciate it. This here is only one master quote of what I've written: I already took some impressions and every post I read I usually can connect the dots and link it with some kind of psychological event some people unconsciously paint. My hypothesis is nearly finished and I shall present it in due time inshallah. I have substantial support and evidence, from people using this site to state and prove my hypothesis to be absolute correct. I really don't mind what people's stances are or the words they write in here to disguise what they really think. I have a special gift (Al-hamdulillaah) and that is a good memory, the ability to read between the lines and remember what one said previously and then connect the dots to get a indefinite picture what people really think and avoid telling us here honestly. I link together all this with scientific, historical and social events together preferably with ones vague identity and voilà, you get an indefinite answer to the root of our problems and the solutions to it. I know this place is heating up and I already told you, if I would go into detail and say how it is, this house wouldn't be standing any longer. It would definately change, like a earthquake on the worst and highest Richter scale changes the landscape of a location but I shall refrain from it now inshallah.
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That man is a wicked and vile man himself. Wallahi I can see through this, it is mere opportunism as this moron could not care less what happened to this soldiers. He only wants to make some cheap and laughable political point in order to aid his fellow clan cousin, who runs the administration in Hargeisa. Shame on him. This was not an act committed by a clan nor can they be blamed for it. I have great respect and admiration for that clan but these acts of utter criminality were committed by some invaders and certain vile element from within the communities of Guriceel and Cadaado. These are only criminal elements from those places I mentioned and can not be extended to all of the people who reside in or hail from Guriceel or Cadaado. These are scrap-merchants who hold this country hostage for more than 16 years. It is because of them, that no regional administration was established in Mogadishu. It is them who ate up and destroyed every attempt to form a viable government in Somalia (I'm talking about elements who enriched themselves from the loot and hence occupied houses and farms they didn't own as their originally entered Mogadishu barefoot. They came from the semi-deserts of Galgadud and Mudug and they could not care what happens to Mogadishu but they only care for that loot. How can you now force them to return to the desert, when, the person who came yesterday barefoot to Mogadishu, now drives a Nissan Landcruiser and their children going to school? Don't you have a heart? These people enriched themselves on properties and other looted goods and now they have become rich on it and to ask them to return to the old place, where no schools, medical and health facilities exist, isn't it just logical that they fight for their survival + add to this psychological and historical factors and the unwillingness of those folks to become a 'second class citizen again'. There's a deep complex emerging here. I could go more into this but I believe that would be not a very healthy thing to do.) Now this folks are lying and making up stories that this is some kind of Qabiil thing which it is not. The whole of Mogadishu is pacified and peaceful its only those 'invaders' from the central regions of Somalia, that do not want to have any peace because with peace comes a viable government and with a government comes justice and justice would mean giving up and returning the looted properties and with giving up and returning the looted properties it would mean having no place, having no place would mean having to go back to the desert, going back to he desert means giving up all the luxuries one has experienced, no more usage of cell phones and satellite television. This is one aspect of the deep rooted problems in Somalia and I would like to examine it further by using historical and scientific research and looking at the psychic of the nomads in here. I already took some impressions and every post I read I usually can connect the dots and link it with some kind of psychological event some people unconsciously paint. My hypothesis is nearly finished and I shall present it in due time inshallah. I have substantial support and evidence, from people using this site to state and prove my hypothesis to be absolute correct. I really don't mind what people's stances are or the words they write in here to disguise what they really think. I have a special gift (Al-hamdulillaah) and that is a good memory, the ability to read between the lines and remember what one said previously and then connect the dots to get a indefinite picture what people really think and avoid telling us here honestly. I link together all this with scientific, historical and social events together preferably with ones vague identity and voilà, you get an indefinite answer to the root of our problems and the solutions to it. Inshallah wait for the results.
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abu ansaar you really don't deserve a reply from me but let me make one thing clear. I said that there was a cease fire at place and that there will be no shot fired today which is saturday and I also said I don't know about tommorrow. Futhermore if you had cared to read (I know your reading skills are very poor ) what I have written, you'd realise that I said the cease fire will definately hold for one day, which is saturday and that there will no single shot fired and that prediction actually came true. I know now its 21:30 Mogadishu local time I believe and a war can kick off any minute but I don't expect it any time tonight. Furthermore I said and its on the record that such a truce, cease fire is not workable because there were heavy conditions and without one group and I knew it would be the qarandeed making a major compromise on their behalf I said this ceasefire will not work. I was right on all the things I said but unfortunately you cannot read. Pls re-read what I've written before posting your unintelligent post. What did Sakhar predict? 1. No war on Saturday at all and that there will be no single fire shot. Which became true. No single shot was fired (it's two hours before midnight in Mogadishu and 19:30 GMT in London and I believe that's where your confusion comes from. Somalis don't fight during night time and usually the war starts early morning after down 8:00 local time. But if it is a special operation then it can eve start earlier. 2. I said talks will not work because the peace is not attainable without one group making major concessions that's why I doubted the effectivess of such a truce and ceasefire. I was right on all this things and it is on the record and you can check it out inshallah. Sakhar.
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The cease fire had to be reversed because peace talks were unattaiable in my eyes. What is there to talk with people who don't want to disarm and follow the legitimate political process and who oppose the government? Ethiopias announcement of the cease-fire on late thursday evening and their refusal to engage in the fighting and actually intervening on Friday when a army lead by ina Dhiigsokeeye was being ambushed by the clown clan movement made me very angry and I couldn't believe wallahi what was happening. Anyhow, this folks are not as clever as they would us like to believe. Why are they against house to house searches if they aren't hiding anything? Why don't they want to disarm? Is it because they're sad qarandeeds and clan supremicists. The government has wasted enough time it has to clean up that place inshallah, enough time for the people to flee has already been wasted. Now go in and take out the criminals inshallah, that is if they refuse, but if they give in, then be careful and go in slow inshallah. This people are really dumb, they should have agreed to the terms and conditions because if not, the alternative is total annihilation and real force being used on them, which will eventually bring them to their knees inshallah. Finish them off for the attacks to stop and the people to live in peace. There's no other solution to our problem. Inshallah khayr, I wish the government troops the best of luck in restoring law and order in Mogadishu for good inshallah. Sakhar.
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Brother yesterday there was still a ceasefire at place but it has been reversed late this evening Mogadishu time and the talks have collapsed. Exactly the points you mentioned were the same things that made me angry yesterday but the Ethios had their own objectives and thus made a ceasefire with the clown clan movement. I predicted that today there would be no fighting and conflict and I was right on that. However I did not gurantee any fighting from happening tommorrow come sunday that is. The truce and ceasefire deal for me was unworkable because that would mean leaving south Mogadishu to govern itself. The ceasefire for me defied logic brother because you can have cease fire and start negotitations and talks as they did today but there came no solutions from it because I said without either the clan movement making a big compromise the truce would become a very shambolic thing and no the paper that it is written on wouldn't be worth it. That's why as I predicted yesterday the talks collapsed and thus the ethios reversed the ceasefire, that was put on place on thursday. This dealings have complex political ramifications to it and that's why I couldn't believe what was happening when I first heard about that unworkable cease-fire. Anyhow it has been reversed the the clown clan movement saying they will defend themselves till they all die. Let's hope for the best and a rather quick solution inshallah. The final solution to our problems inshallah is here. I sincerely hope that is the case because if this folks are not tamed, the chaos, civil unrest and mooraaynic savagery behaviour will continue and Somalia will be held hostage by that group for another many more years to come. But let's hope the solution and resolution to our problems is finally here. Sakhar.
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Burbur ku yimid xabad joojintii ka jirtey magaalada Muqdisho. Click here to find Shabelle news in english Mogadishu 24, March.07 ( Sh.M.Network) Kulan maanta ay ku yeesheen magaalada Muqdisho Odayaasha beelaha ****** iyo saraakiisha ciidamada ethiopia ayaa burburey, ka dib markii ciidamada Ethiopia odayaashaasi ay ku war galiyeen in ciidamada Ethiopia ay howl-gallo ka fulinayaan magaalada Muqdisho oo guri guri ay baaritaan ugu sameynayaan.  Axmed Diiriye Kulankaankaan oo qaatey saacado ayna isugu yimaadeen saraakiisha ciidamada Ethiopia iyo odayaasha beelaha ****** ayaa gabi ahaanba burbruey, ka dib markii saraakiisha ciidamada Ethiopia ay odayaashii kulankaasi soo xaadirey ay si cad ugu sheegeen in ay ka laabteen go'aankii hore, markii ay u cuntami waysay waxa ka soconaya Muqdisho. Afhayeenka beelaha ******, Axmed Diiriye oo u waramay Shabelle ayaa sheegay in saraakiisha ciidamada Ethiopia ay u sheegeen in ay doonayaan in howl-gallo aad u balaaran ay ka fulinayaan magaalada Muqdisho, isla markaana ay doonayaan in ay guri guri u galaan. " Xabad joojintii idinka waa fuliseen waana ka soo baxdeen, laakiin anaga waan ka baxnay waana badalnay qorshaha magaalada, waan galeynaa, anaga ayaa dan iyo muraad ka leh, C/laahi Yuusuf arinkiisa teena waa ka gaar" ayay yiraahdeen saraakiisha ciidamada Ethiopia sida uu shabelle u sheegay Axmed Diiriye. Axmed Diiriye ayaa waxa uu sheegay in odayaasha ay iyaguna u sheegeen saraakiisha ciidamada Ethiopia in ay isdifaacayaan isla markaana ay ku eedeeyeen in ay xaqdarro iyo garddarro ay wataan. Afhayeenka beelaha ****** ayaa ku eedeeyay xukuumadda Ethiopia in ay qaadatay fikirka Madaxweyne C/laahi Yuusuf oo ku dhisan in loo qabto beel beel kale, isagoo sheegay in Ethiopia aysan dhex dhexaad ka aheyn arimaha Somalia. Mar wax laga weydiiyay afhayeenka in ay xiriir la sameeyeen dowladda KMG ah madaxdeeda ayaa waxa uu sheegay in aaneey jirin cid xiriir ay la sameynayaan isla markaana waxii dhaca ay mas'uul ka tahay dowladda. Afhayeenka beelaha ****** ayaa ugu baaqay beesha caalamka in ay soo fara galiyaan waxa uu ugu yeeray xagjir nimada iyo gardarada ciidamada Ethiopia ay ka wadaan magaalada Muqdisho. Si kastaba ha ahaatee mar hadii ay burburtey xabadjoojintii shaqeyneysay shalay iyo maanta waxaa la filan karaa iska horimaadyo mar kale ka qarxa caasimadda oo dhiig badan ku daata. Khamiistii la soo dhaafay ayay aheyd markii odayaasha beelaha ****** iyo dowladda Ethiopia ay wada gaareen heshiis xabad joojin ah oo galabta burbur ku yimid. Shabelle Media Network Somalia E-mail us: info@shabelle.net
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Muqdisho: Kulan galabta dhex maray Beelo ka tirsan ****** iyo saraakiisha Itoobiya oo natiijo la'aan ku dhamaaday. 24. Mar 2007 APL Muqdisho(AllPuntland)-Kulan galabta magaalada Muqdisho ku dhex maray qaar ka tirsan beelaha ****** iyo saraakiisha ciidamada dowladda Itoobiya oo daba joogay kulan hore ayaa mira dhal noqon waayay. Kulankan oo ay ka soo qeybgaleen odayaasha beel ka tirsan beesha ****** iyo Saraakiil ka socotay ciidamada Itoobiya ayaa waxaa ay sheegeen saraakiishii Itoobiyaanka ee kulankaasi ka qeybgalay in ay ka noqdeen qorshihii hore ee heshiiskii Khamiistii isla gaareen odayaashan waxayna saraakiishu ay sheegeen in howlo guri guri lagu baarayo ay ka bilaabayaan magaalada Muqdisho. Axmed Diirire oo ah afhayeenka odayaashan sheegta beelaha ****** ayaa waxaa uu sheegay in saraakiisha Itoobiya ay ku qanci weyday heshiiskii horay ay u wada gaareen ee ahaa in xabada la joojiyo lana kala qaado ciidamada, wuxuuna Axmed Diiriye uu sheegay in ay ku adkeysteeen Itoobiya in guri walba oo magaalada Muqdisho ay baarayaan, walow saraakiisha ciidamada Itoobiya aysan sheegin xiliga howlgalkaasi bilaabanaya. Saraakiisha Ciidamada Itoobiya ayaa waxay sheegeen in ay ku qanci waayeen howlaha iyo falalka maliishiyooyinka beelaha ay wada hadalka la galeen ay ka wadaan, waxayna sheegeen in howlgalada ay fulinayaan aysan cidna ka heybasaneyn oo ay fulinayaan. Odayaasha beelaha qaarkood ayaa ka biyo diiday howlgaladaasi waxayna sheegeen in aysan aqbaleyn arrimaha la isku hayana ay yihiin arimo siyaasadeed. Kulankan oo ah kuu labaad ayaa natiijo la'aan ku dhamaaday iyadoo la filayo howlgal ay ciidamada Itoobiya ka bilaabaan magaalada Muqdisho saacadaha soo socda. Cali Muxiyaddiin Cali AllPuntland, Muqdisho
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This is a Sakhar special brought to you. A Sakhar news flash. The truce and ceasefire that hold much of yesterday afternoon and the whole of today is close to be reversed. Today the clan elders of south Mogadishu met with the Ethiopian commanders and the talks did not produce any solutions as I believed and briefed the peopel yesterday. I said that the ceasefire is acheived now but what will come after it and I hope you all remember all the right and valid questions I asked. I'm a political observer of the highest calibre. Sakhar is the name to follow right now on developments and political anyalysing. Ahmad Diiriye the spokesman of the clan movement said that the Ethiopians reversed the ceasefire because they have said their agenda for the city changed and that they would now pursue house to house searches. The clan movement accused the Ethiopians with siding with the agendas of President Abdullahi Yusuf and they vowed to defend themselves and their livlihoods. However the Ethiopians disagreed and said their stance and that of President Abdullahi Yusuf were unconnectd and that the ethiopians could no longer sit idle and watch the attacks on them being carried out on a daily basis without it being stopped by the elders from south Mogadishu and that's why they reversed the truce and cease fire. It is now expected a full out war to errupt and as I have predicted today would be quiet but I told you that I don't know about sunday. Now Sakhar has so far told you the truth, will this latest development materialise as well? Let's hope so inshallah. Sakhar.
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Paragon for me you're what I would term a 'simple' man that's why you rather ask simple questions. I'm certainly not bothered to much with you brother. Read my post and try to get a few wisdoms out of it inshallah. I know you will not be able to understand all of it but I made it simple extra for you. Pi lol walaal, I believe you walked straight into that trap because of your daacadnimo but if you would know, the person who is asking this questions, you wouldn't want to engage yourself in such shambolic questions. Shame on you Pi for even giving it a try. Lol@ 'And do you consider them muslims'? I didn't even know whether to laugh at it or not. Even my seven year old cousin would be able to ask more effective questions but then again I believe it is because of him sharing blood ties with me. You should start rating people into categories, I have my own such as 'silly category, semi-silly, beyond silly, average, somewhat intelligent, intelligent (established), intellectual and there's another category but so far I haven't seen anyone who could fit in it and that is the genious category and Paragon I would say belongs to a certain category I shall not tell the crowd right now because for obvious reasons. Remember Pi back at school, when the teacher used to scream out 'If you want your grade/mark said out loud say yes after hearing your name, if you don't want your grade to be made public say 'no'. When the teacher used to go around his book where he keeps all the scores and grades usually when he asked for the student to know his grade they would say 'if it's a good mark then you can say it out loudly but if not, then pls don't embarrass me'. So Paragon it's not a good rating or mark for that matter, so what do you want to be told in private (I can arrange for someone to deliver it to you or your doorstep ) or are you generally that disinterested and you couldn't be actually bothered if your bad rating and grade were to be revealed and made public? The choice is with you. Sakhar.
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Well, Kashafa I know you, for fact I know what you stand for. Believe me, that disguise of yours, I have already seen through. Unlike you, I can afford to not answer insincere questions that I don't want to engage myself in because its my prerogative and because I have stated my position on this issues already. If I were to reveal, what I know and how things really are, this house would come crushing down and I said it many times. I'm confident and well equipped in my ability to argue my viewpoint across but at the same time, I know, who and what I shall address and when I shall do that. Even if I answered those question for him it wouldn't have been for any use because simply he wouldn't understand anything I said to him because he's already clouded with hate for certain people. I dictate and lead but I'm certainly not lead nor do I adhere to the popularity of things and why should I put myself in a position, whereby I answer obvious questions for people I already know and who already know my stance? What and who benefits? For me Paragon is not even on my level to tell you the truth. Sakhar is to well known, for him, to now after six month of Ethiopian troops being in Somalia, to be asked now 'What he thinks' or the state of his happiness or sadness about those Ethiopian troops being in Somalia. The other question is a total farce itself 'Do you consider them Muslims'? This is a axmaq question and sometimes one has to be very careful what he answers because if he engages himself with the trivial and ignorant, then oneself might come across in the same light. My position is very clear but in a broad and general viewpoint of mine I'd like to clarify to these idealists (I don't believe that they're idealists but I'm talking and addressing the sincere elements who are against the Ethiopian intervention in our country and their stay in Somalia). I say to my idealists and utopian friends, that you have a valid point if this were ordinary and conventional times, in your anger and frustration about the situation and what you feel about your country being 'invaded', however that valid point is being cancelled out by the mere fact, that these times are not ordinary and far from being conventional but extraordinary times. At times of wars, emergencies and other urgencies, one usually does what he wouldn't do or even dare to dream about in ordinary times. Think of it, the genuine people I'm talking about, where have you been in the last 17years? What state has our country being in since the downfall of the last regime late 1990? Think of it inshallah. Those folks that think that the Somali Republic still exists and that we still have our army at place, migs and sovereign statehood are dreaming and lying to themselves. In fact they live in utter denial. That's the difference between me and you, dear idealists (I'm talking to the genuine elements here who oppose Ethiopia for genuine reasons of protectin the sovereignty and integral integrety of Somalia). Wake up from your dreams and see for your own eyes where the country has been in the last 17years. Look at what state it is and was. Open your eyes folks. The other thing is, that the Somali conflict is complex in its nature and wallahi believe me if I were to go into the origins and psychological reasons to why it has been in that sad state, this house would come crushing down and no one would be able to survive in it. Sakhar tells the truth and he never shies away from it and everyone knows that fact and I'm well recorded for that. So guys give it up inshallah as I'm well known to be able to produce, if there's the need but I see not any need right now. The folks, who are at my back now, I know very well. I know that they don't have any integrity whatsoever soon it will be to see for all too inshallah. I shall leave it at that inshallah. Sakhar.
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You know my stance on that issue and I will not engage in any discussions with you on the questions raised or the other matter, in which I clearly highlighted, that I put my trust into Allah and that I'm confident that he will certainly deliver for me. I have full trust and confidence in Allahs cadaalah and judgement unlike many in here, who are ignorant about that Allah is going to take care of these matters, whether people were killed unjustly or mutilated or set ablaze. We have even some, who don't recognise Allah at all. I say if you believe in Allah and you have trust in him, then leave these things to him as he is going to take care of it inshallah. Either way in this dunya or hereafter the people who committed this evil act will pay for it. So this is clearly something I don't like to be engaged in any further because I only participate in meaningful discussions. Anyhow this is the latest reports from Mogadishu inshallah. I told many here that there will be no war today and that there will be no single shot fired and all my predictions came true. Indeed Mogadishu today was calm, serene and peaceful. I'm a political anyalyist and observer, who knows much more than the average person here and I clearly knew the political game and ramifications this latest development had and still has on the capital of Somalia, Mogadishu. I shall follow events with keen interest that is godwillingly ofcourse. Mogadishu calm after days of deadly clashes. 03-24-2007, 14h08 MOGADISHU (AFP) A Somali soldier stops people at a checkpoint in Mogadishu. The Somali capital is calm with daily life slowly resuming to normal after three days of deadly clashes between Ethiopia-backed government troops and Islamist insurgents. (AFP) The Somali capital was calm Saturday with daily life slowly resuming to normal, after three days of deadly clashes between Ethiopia-backed government troops and Islamist insurgents. Public transport resumed and grocery shops reopened, albeit sluggishly, in Mogadishu, a day after a Belarussian cargo plane also crashed near the city killing all 11 people on board. However, Mogadishu, home to one million people, remained virtually a ghost town after the fierce fighting which claimed 24 lives, and AFP correspondents saw soldiers patrolling the sweltering seaside capital. At the K4 junction, a notoriously volatile but strategic area of southern Mogadishu, African Union (AU) peacekeepers, deployed to help government troops regain control, had take up positions, some on top of buildings. Somalia, a nation of about 10 million, has been wracked by factional bloodletting since the 1991 ouster of dictator Mohamed Siad Barre cleared the way for a deadly power struggle that has scuppered more than 14 peacemaking attempts. At least 24 people died this week and hundreds more were wounded in three days of clashes, despite a brief truce Friday. On Wednesday, angry residents dragged and burned soldiers in the Mogadishu streets, a grisly reminder of the fate that befell US special forces in the 1990s. The government has vowed to keep on fighting until the insurgents are defeated, who, in turn, have said they will pursue their attacks. Dozens of people have died since January when Ethiopian-Somali troops ousted an Islamist movement from south and central Somalia, prompting deadly guerrilla warfare. On Friday, a Belarussian Ilyushin cargo plane chartered by the African Union to bring engineers and equipment to Mogadishu to repair another aircraft crashed north of the capital, killing 11 people. "They are from Belarus," said Muhamoud Hussein Gudabaye, a local government official. Although widely believed to have been brought down by a rocket, Somali Interior Minister Muhamoud Hamed Gulled said the government was "still treating the matter as an accident, until a further indication is made by an expert." Two weeks ago, an Ilyushin-76, also chartered by the AU, caught fire on landing but caused no casualties. The government said it was a mechanical fault but Somali Islamist fighters claimed responsibility. AFP
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I shall be civil inshallah. The savage and barbaric act of setting ablaze and mutilating dead corpses committed by certain elements of south Mogadisu residents only showed to the rest of the world what kind of sad cannibalistic animals they're (the people that committed that vile act that is) but certainly they did not harm the dead corpses they mutilated and the people they set ablaze alive nor did they harm me or Puntland for that matter but only themselves. What kind of hate must one feel to do such kind of thing? Allah is the judge and he will judge every person on what he used to commit and this is no different. The barbarians, who thought by mutilating and setting ablaze dead bodies, they're going to avenge a wrong, have erred and it only highlights how much fear and insecurities they must be feeling inside, because otherwise the dead corpses wouldn't have been mistreated in the horrific and animalistic way we have seen. They tried to provoke a certain reaction but they will not get what they're looking for. I'm sorry to disappoint you folks but I can only condemn such actions but it won't change my resolute nor the governments resolute to bring lasting peace and stability, to the chaotic capital of Somalia, which has seen far much more worse atrocities in the last 16 years of its pitiful existence. Unlike many here, I know that there is Allah, who is just and who will inshallah bring the people who did this to justice. Certainly they only harmed themselves by transgressing unjustly and Allah is not with the unjust. There will be a day, where everyone will be summoned and judged according to what wrong they used to commit. I'm faithful that this people who participated in that cruel and savage act, will face eventually justice, whether it be in this world or in the hereafter. So I nor others shall get too worked over it inshallah. Allah is seeing this and he surely will judge those folks on the wrong they committed. He will punish them for it or forgive them but I shall lay my hope in Allah that he will avenge and correct the injustices and wrong committed and I'm confident in my lord's cadaalah and he will deliver for me. So let's keep that in mind inshallah, as I say there's no higher authority than Allah and he sees and judges people according to their actions. He will deal with it and judge the people who committed it accordingly, I will put my faith and trust into him. Allah is just and he hates evil and wrongful acts committed by sick individuals who transgressed in a extreme way and he will certainly bring them to justice inshallah for their wrong actions and crimes committed. I'm confident in that inshallah. Sakhar.
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The truce is holding, no one will breach it at least not today. There are political ramifications to it which are hard to understand. Mogadishu today is calm, serene and peaceful. No war, conflict or anykind of hostilities. No shots are being fired because of the truce. I predicted this since early yesterday morning and I still stand to it. If there's a war in Mogadishu today, you can call me all the names in the world you want. Sakhar.
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