Paranoi can only visit me when I submit myself to the institute of Somali Liberals that you subscribe to, or are in-charge at times, because of the apprehension you show when we stand with our culture! My sister iPod-listener, don't bother this topic, cause it will only make you look like jaajuus!

^Some people now wish for becoming alian again, because of the troubles they encounter here as good nomads, just like Alle-ubaahne, oo wiil fiican ah, (I mean fariid or dirac).

Waa runtaa, caaqil Baashiyoow, , darisnimo, deegaan iyo sokeeye intaba waanu nahay. Sideedana waad ogtahay, oo ma rabo inaan kaaga taariikheeyo, dhaqan-wanaaga wuxuu ka yimaadaa dadka ehelka u ah sifooyinka suusuuban ee lagu yaqiin dadkii aan kasoo farcannay ee Alle-caabudka ahaa. Waxaadse ku laab qaboowsataa, (hadeyba dhici laheyd), in gabar kaa gashay Alle-ubaahne aadan waligaa ugu fadhin laheyn dhibaato kaaga timaado, kheyr mooyee. Waxaana taas daliil u ah caadada suuban ee soo jireenka ah oo aan ilaa iyo maanta dusho inoo saara. Waa ilaah mahadii hadiiba intaas aan kasoo waramay naloo ogyahay. Hadaba anoon hadalkeyga xodxodasho iyo gabar raadis danbe loo qaadan, waxaan oran lahaa Baashiyoow marqaati anaa ka ah inaad hablo qurux iyo qaayo u saaxiib ah ilaah idinku galadeystay, balse dhanka raga markii loo dhaqaaqo, reer Waldaan aad bay uga sheeganayeen sida ragiina ay ula dhaqmaan gabdhahooda aad ka qabtaan. Anagoo reer Weyso-dhowrte ahna waxaan maalin dhaweyd u fariisanay shir dagdag ah oo aan mowqif mideysan kasoo saarnay kaasoo ah in Reer Warsame Nabad-u-joog aysan gabdho aan dhalnay noogu imaan, inta ay dhaqankaas ka waantoobayaan, laakiin anaga aan kuwooda guursaneyno sidii dhaqankuba ahaa. Si kastaba ha ahaatee, waxaan aad ugu faraxsanahay inaad maanta adiga xaas leedahay, oo ilaah mahadiis ay ku ahaatay inaadan xeerkaas adoo iskaabulo ah kula kowsan. Balse, dhanka kale hadaad eegtid, meeshaas waxaad ku weyseen gabdhaheenii, (reer Weyso-dhowrte), ay Soomaali meelwalbooy joogto wanaagooda afka ku hayeen. Haa.... waa sax, sababtoo ah gabadha la dhaqankeeda ayaad leedihiin, dhiigeedana anagaa leh . Waa saas howsha, Adeer!

Vicking, Walee ishaad ka tuurtay, oo waa runtaa, wixii la qariyaa qurun ayaa ku jira. Waxay kaloo soomaali hore u tiri, waxaad qarsataa adna way ku qarsadaan . Laakiin ninyahow markaan leeyahay arimahaan si dahsoon oo ka wanaagsan English-ku-Hadal halooga baaraandago, waxaan ka wadaa maadaama aan ahaan jirnay bulsho ceeb ka saliim ah, oo ceebahaas aan laga dhex aqoon, hadana dad badan waxay dareemayaan, (iyadoo xaqiiqada maanta ay wadna-qabad nagu tahay), in loo baahan yahay xal iyadoon la shaacin mashaakilka na haysta. Koley anigu waxaan ku talin lahaa arintaas halaga daayo ku qorida english-ka, hadii kale buugaagta ay reer galbeedka qoraan ayaa mid gaal ah, ( in search for new Ph.D. thesis), ku soo qaadan doonaa arimaha dadkeena, waliba intuu been farabadan ku daro iyo qunsax-balaad kale oo aan hada na heysan. Marmarna waxaan is dhahaa amaad ceebta dadkaaga laga sheegayo u dhimataa! Ilaahow na baxso, Aamiin.

War ileen anagaa wax aragnay! War Baashiyoow, ninyahow horaa waxaa loo yiri, nin dakano galay waa la arkaa inuu hilmaamo dakanadii, laakiin kan laga galay ma hilmaamo. Waxaan ka baqayaa inuu hadalkaas iga ahaa hilmaam hadal kuma jiro . Koley xaajadu ma qurxoona, oo hadalkeyga waa igu qatif inaan wax weydiisto reer Warsame Nabad-u-joog, iyadoon wax heshiis iyo xaal-marin laga gaarin arintaas, balse waxaan diyaar u ahay inaan idinka raali gareeyo kaliyah weydiisashada aan hadda gabar idin weydiistay, wixii horese wali mowqifkii ayaan taagan nahay, oo wixii aan ku kala tagnay waagaas ayaa noo cuntama, sidaad ogtahayna walaaloow anaga waaba nagu caay iyo aflagaado in gabar aan nala siinin in tilmaam ama farfiiq kaliyah naloogu manasheegto, waxay kasoo horjeedaa caadadii iyo dhaqankii aan heybada ku laheyn hadaa nahay reer Alle-ubaahne Weyso-dhowrte. Marka waad mahadsan tahay, waxaana kaaga maqanahay waala doogaye, yaan la dacaroon, iyo hal bil qaday bari kuma dari weyso !

Since I posted this topic for Jaajuus issues, is it possible this site is used as Jaajuus instrument for our enemy against our people. For instance, eavesdropping and for statistical policy-making and decisions or ethnic studies based on what we recklessly post here sometimes, or giving hints the Gaalada our progress in maintaining our Diin iyo bulsho, which I believe is bad news to many. I reckon it will be helpful if the adminstration of this site would censor much of the articles in the political sections that portray our people as highly bulsho kala jajaban, without midnimo and iskuduubni, which realy can do alot of help for others, (cadowgeena), to take tactical measurements from our negative views, and then apply for perpetuating our disunity. I am just trying to shift the topic in to the next level, and see how my fellow nomads see the issue.

Ilaahoow dadkeena noo hagaaji. Aamiin. Waxaan idin dhihi lahaa intaad sheekadaan English ku qori laheydeen oo hadhoow gaalada nagu caayi laheyd, (waxaan ugu nibcahay inuu gaal igu caayo 'muslim ama soomaali hadaa tihiin ceebtiinu waa sidaas', waliba anoo kala hadlaayo diinteena wanaageeda iyo sharafta dadkeena), maad soomaali ku qortiin oo aayar arinta inta u dhex gashaan, si fiican ugu lafo-guri weyseen? Koley aniga waxaan eeda dusha ka saaray gaalo oo awalba ahaa dadkii nasoo daadgureeyay oo balaayadaan noo keenay, caruurtiina naga fasahaadiyay, iyo qabqablayaasha iyo odayaasha beelaha oo colaada dadkeena ku kala dhex abuuray. Ilaaha xaqa lagu caabudo ayaan astako u nahay!

Ramadaan Kariim, Xaji Baashi, Inkastoo hadal culus uu kaa soo yeeray, Mr. Moderator ya Muhammed duqa ha lagu habeeyo bacdu Ramadan. What ya say? maad ka dhabeysid oo walaalkaa la shaqeysid si aan ugaga soo kabano intii dagaalada nooga dhimatay! Waa saas oo aad noqon doontid wado halaq-mareen ah, hadiiba ay arintaas hirgasho, oo waxaad hadaba yeeshaa diiwaanka igu dar ninyahow, intaan la iga buuxin.

Brother, what you fail to understand is that I do not object to your objection of Mr.Goth at all. What I object to is your cay and habaar. Subxaanalaah, sister Waterfall, (former Athena iPod), did I say any cay in any shape or form, I thought that I only invoked Habaar for Bashir Goth. doesn't my habaar recflect the intended reactions in which the article has spurred? how come you say now that I failed to grasp with your objections when the reality indicates from your writings that you are callous enough to stand in defense of your religion and instead targeted me for being honest in my sincere reactions towards the heat of that unbearable article. If I call you passive it doesn't mean I insulted you, I am only concerned the absense of proper reactions, (sida inaad ka xanaaqdid oo kale, ama damiirkaaga Islaamnimo uu kaco), for sheilding your Islamic faith from such blatant attacks of Mr. Bashir, rather than making your maskiin brother alle-ubaahne who was tryig to earn some Ajar in wishing Halaag iyo Ibtilo for the Wax-iskuma-falaha diinteena iyo dumarkeena ku xadgudbay. Look, my older sister, admittedly saying in respect for your honor in age, I don't want you to feel that I seclectively would like to insert you on the side of Mr. Goth, but I want you, as you want to discourage the habaar activity from me, to understand and see things from my genuine perspective which is visibly in good spirit. And let me tell you this, my older sister, we can continue this contention with reasonable premisis, but let's not forget the center of the issue, which is the article it self, not my Habaar which I assume has earned me alot of Ajar iyo Xasanaad. What time are we going to break the fast today in Eastern U.S. standard time? its realy chaning fast, masha-allah, to an extent that makes hard for me to catch up.

Sister Athena, May Allah (sw) forgive your sin, Aamiin. Walaahi I am so suprised that you are not yet distressed by the critical greatness of Mr. Goth's article! May Allah forgive your sins, again!

Sister Rahima, did you forget this verse in the Quran, Say: 'Was it Allah, His Verses, or His Messenger you were mocking? Make no mistake, verily you have disbelieved after your belief. Because as you said here, Secondly, any individual who makes fun or belittles the rulings of Allah (be it the beard or the xijaab) is at the very least an evildoer. That Athena is the lightest stance. Bashir Goth without even looking into his other works has done so in this piece (and I’m sure that is clear for all to read). Mockery and making fun out of Allah's Diin is very serious violation that automatically qualifies one to be an apostate. Do you understand sister the word mockery and jestering or saying jocular statements over the believing women in Islam? Read, please, the verse that goes, waladiina yarmuuna muxsinaati biqeyri maktasabuu.... walahum cadaabun cadiim. I think you know the Ayah which was revealed because of the munaafiqiin throwing insults at Caa'isha, RC. And for that reason, its very serious sin to make mockery of the rightious Muslim women. Its not my opinion, its Allah's ruling in the Quran. It can obviously qualify a person to be out side of the Islamic pale. However, I was not merely saying that Bashir Goth is Kaafir, I was saying what he said is exactly the very reasons that can qualify a believing person to be kaafir after his/her previous belief in Islam. It doesn't matter whether he calls himself a Muslim or not, one sin, such as that he delibarately said, is enough evidence for becoming kaafir. Allah knows the best

Brother Ducaqabe, Walaahi its not my right to do anything now but take wholly your instructions since you reminded me an important hadeeth. I appreciate it for coming to my rescue, but as for the Habaar, I think I was enraged by the statements of the author. For now on I would like to avoid the arguments with these nomads who are making me a wrong-doer because I expressed my proper reaction to article. I don't want my Ramadan points to be decreased with this squabbling. And I let my sister iPod take the driving seat and steer the topic to wherever she wants. Nabadeey and Assalaamu Caleykum!

My dear sister iPod Athena, I thank you for your advices, less arguments, and I am glad that I will not take them to practice. I think if you would have listened more Islamic lectures in your iPod, you would now have realized what it means to defend your precious faith from the wolves and unmannered mouth of Mr. Goth. But anyway, I hope he repents from that critical sin that can cost his faith in Islam. And don't try please to focus Rahima's remarks, for I was the person who is the center of the detoured debate. Sister iPod, the only condition I will set to stop the Habaar is to give me an opportunity to meet in person with Mr. Goth, the horrible snake, so that I will unleash my wrath against him. But before that, let me enjoy in practise one of the narrations of our prophet (scw) i.e. if anyone of you sees a Munkar, try to discourage it by utilizing your hands, if not, then your mouth, if not, then your heart, which is the least rank of iimaan, (or as stated so by the prophet, scw). The sad thing about this debate is that you've not showed any of the three reactions, but the mere hypocritical sympathy for defending Mr. Snake!

Brother Haruun, let's define first what we call university. I think we have the world's pioneering best Universities in Somalia. Even no Muslim country can beat it. They know that from the graduates who memorized the whole Quran by heart. Even the University of Medina in Saudi Arabia is astounded by the sheer number of Somali graduates from the best Quranic universities in Somalia. What other university would you select over Quranic universities, when they serve for the best purpose to making this chaos world peaceful? For that reason, we have world-class universities, in a place where the dearth of material seems the joy and motivation to excell for learning real knowledge. That is how it supposed to be when ranking Africa's best universities, by bringing Somalia's educational institutions on the first place.

Marco, I am sorry to inform you that all our people in Somalia and even those outside of Somalia are still suffering from all ranges of critical tragedies, and we don't call it Terrorism, we call it Masiibo, inflictions. I don't understand what such people motivated to do so, in particular, a period when all Somalis were bussy to each other's demise. But what they did was surely against our religion if you were outside their suspicious allegations. And that was not a proper discourse for conveying the truth of Islam. Believe it or not, Allah will not let them go and unpunish those who transgress and violate his rules. But I, as a good Muslim, would like to take this opportunity to tell you something that if you use it, you will surely recover every ill you have and become successful in this life and the next life after death. Say: Laa-ilaha-ila-laah, which is there is no god but Allah, the Almighty God. And then, trust me, Allah will reward all your previous good deeds and make you in the victorious group when victory is so vital from becoming safe the blazes of hellfire. Only that Almighty God, Allah, is able to grant you the real mental and physical recovery that every victim requires always, including myself.

Let's not get personal level, and continue debating, especially for those people who thought and still think I am wrong through my invokes of Habaar so that Allah displays in the mouth of Mr. Bashir Goth some horrifying signs that all humanities are shocked. Prove me wrong, with your evidences, since I believe there is no Muslim person who can insult Muslim women and Allah's regulations without becoming Kuffaar. Because Allah (swt) and his Messenger, (scw) has told us the consequences of such perilous acts. Where are the liberal nomads, let's talk gently and discuss the issue of the matter!

According to the nullifiers of Islam, or the acts that makes one to be outside of Islam, I would like to present here some evidences that I believe are the reasons for my Habaar towards Bashir Goth. However, below the underline is a question, with ten point answers, thoroughly investigated responses by the concensus of the Culimada based on concrete quranic evidences as to what makes a muslim outside the pale of Islam. First of all, by using the article of Bashir Goth, I will try to quote and then address where his remarks makes him fall in the category of the ten concensus points listed below. I don't want my fellow opponents to percieve me as someone who finds appeasement in casting Muslims away from Islam. All I want is to emphasis the greatness of the sin in which Mr. Goth has embarked. Now, in the begining of article it says, Recently, I came across news reports on the activities of a group of clerics calling themselves “the Authority for Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice†trying to impose draconian moral codes on Somaliland citizens in general and residents of the capital Hargeisa, in particular. The key term he used here is Draconian. In the dictionary, it defines as: Exceedingly harsh; very severe: for instance, a draconian legal code. This directly describes Islamic Sharia system as detestable and hard to comply. In the concensus answers of the Fatwa, it says # 5, hating what was revealed with Allah's messenger, as more precisely dictated in the following verse, “That is because they hate that which Allaah has sent down (this Qur’aan and Islamic laws); so He has made their deeds fruitless†[Muhammad 47:9] Also, he contenious in the very same paragraph, by saying, I can ignore, though grudgingly, when such clerics impose dress codes and other punctilious rituals on Somali men and women in the West because these are in the free world where they can express their opinion and seek legal protection against such abuse... He is now concerned the Hijab and Islamic rituals as strict, but the key terms here reside with the words Abuse, Free world, i.e. western world, and their legal protection. So, what category does this fall in the numbered concensus of the Fatwa listed below? It matches many of the points, but let me suffice it in # 3, which is regarding the non-muslims ways correct, and # 5, hating again Allah's rules as it pertains to the Hijab; # 6, mocking or making fun of it, and finally, # 8, supporting the non-muslims against the Muslims. Consequently a Somali woman would travel with a single man or even a group of men on long trips, spending nights and days in their company with neither the men nor the woman having any sinister thoughts about their togetherness. Didn't our religion set rules that speak about the prevention of any Zina to occur by first drawing concrete lines between men and women! This sound more like examplifying our religion with the non-Islamic cultures, such as western and other cultures where there is complete mixture of sexes. But by his emphasis of the intrinsic Qalbi, which he says is the center of all, does realy ignore the actual rulings of Allah's Messenger, (scw). I insert that under the # 9, believing that some are allowed to operate outside Islam. A strange uniformity, only known in the desert and uncreative cultures of Arabia, has crept into the social manners of our people. Another hateful remark against the Hijab, and attributing it solely to the Arabian culture and ignoring the fact that this is nothing but Allah's dress regulation on Muslim women. See # 5 and # 10, turning away selectively from our religion. and long unkempt beards for men. Against the beard, he openly expresses his views that stereotypes all long beards as disorderly ugly and dirt, showing no respect when it was meant to follow the Sunnah of the prophet, (scw). May be some pictures from the good old days, before modern fanatics reduced Islam into a jealous guardian of Harem’s (women) hair, cheeks, arms, shins, feet, voice and smile. Using and paroting exactly the same propoganda that western media uses to denigrate Islam and its people. Check # 8. Also, see his unsophisticated plagiarism from the west by insulting the Culimaa and comparing them extremism, that Wahhabism and extremism He calls Sh. Mohamed Abdulwahab as innovator by blatently lying over him and then saying he was a founder of his own Madhab, School of Fiqi, which is a necked fabrications. He also, used the word apocrypha which is basically derived from the Christian terms that describes the abrogations of their books, and makes it questionable. These people are out to eradicate our culture, our traditions, our songs, our poetry and our folklore dances He clearly advocates somethig other than Allah's rules and regulations. Does that match # 4, which is believing other rules or following personal whims or desires? Again, see how his pathetic wishes are tuned in to making our society the likes of those worst examples in any Muslim society, It was Iman, that Somali model, who made the name Somali synonymous with such exotic, unique and Cushitic beauty. Weris Deiria is now making headlines despite the daily curses and ridicule she receives from die-hard fundamentalists. It is also since that astute and clear-headed lady, Edna Adan Ismail, has become Somaliland’s Foreign Minister, that the international community is lending an ear to Somaliland’s case. .... Zahra Ahmed, Khadra Dahir, Hibo Mohammed, Amina Abdillahi, Sada Ali, Magool, Maandeeq, Farhiya Ali, Zainab Egeh and many others of our women singers... I don't know realy where I can think of any justfications to sympathise with the despicable remarks of Mr. Goth. He sticked to all he can in his disposal to make our religion's core believes very unimportant. I can't understand how a rationale and decent Muslim is undisturbed by the sheer and gross insult tossed not only to our rightious girls but our dear Islamic faith, especially when says, I have to mention here that when I step out into the street in the morning I see groups of girls waiting for school buses; all of them Arabs except for two Somali girls. All the Arab girls of all nationalities look bubbly, tossing their beautiful uncovered hairs and showing off their latest hairstyles. Even those with head covers threw it lightly on the shoulders or barely on the back of the head. They even sometime waved hello for me or for my son. The two Somali girls, however, were fully shrouded with black from head to toe. One could barely see their eyes and they even wore black heavy socks on their feet. Black heavy socks on their feet! Can you believe that person is also proclaiming to be as a Muslim. Wait a minute, isn't the muslim person supposed to be save with his life, property, honor and so forth, from the (harms or shar) of other Muslims? I can't believe I am seeing here some of my fellow nomads especially in Ramadan period where defening and dying for Islam is more significant than ever, and yet contrary to that defending an infamous who conspiciously affronts our religion! _________________________________________________ Question : What are the actions which, if a Muslim does them, he will be an apostate from Islam?. Answer : Praise be to Allaah. Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Note that Allaah has commanded all people to enter Islam and to adhere to it and to beware of whatever is contrary to it. He sent His Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to call mankind to that. He tells us that those who follow him will be guided and that those who turn away from him have gone astray. In many verses He warns against the means that lead to apostasy and all forms of shirk and kufr. The scholars (may Allaah have mercy on them) have said, when discussing apostasy, that a Muslim may apostatize from his religion by doing many acts that nullify Islam, which makes it permissible to shed his blood and seize his wealth, and which will put him beyond the pale of Islam. Among the most serious and most common of these things are ten which were mentioned by Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhaab and other scholars (may Allaah have mercy on them all). We will mention them in brief here, so that you and others can beware of them, in the hope that you will be safe and sound. We will also explain a little about them after mentioning each one. 1 – Shirk or associating others in worship with Allaah. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Verily, Allaah forgives not (the sin of) setting up partners (in worship) with Him, but He forgives whom He wills, sins other than that, and whoever sets up partners in worship with Allaah, has indeed strayed far away†[al-Nisa’ 4:116] “Verily, whosoever sets up partners (in worship) with Allaah, then Allaah has forbidden Paradise to him, and the Fire will be his abode†[al-Maa’idah 5:72] That includes praying to the dead, seeking their help, making vows and offering sacrifices to them or to the jinn or to the grave. 2 – Whoever sets up intermediaries between himself and Allaah, asks them to intercede, and puts his trust in them, is a kaafir according to scholarly consensus. 3 – Whoever does not regard the mushrikeen as kaafirs, or doubts that they are kaafirs, or regards their way as correct, is a kaafir. 4 – Whoever believes that anything other than the teaching of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is more complete than his teachings, or that the rulings of anyone else are better than his rulings – such as those who prefer the rule of false laws to his rulings – is a kaafir. 5 – Whoever hates any part of that which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) brought, even if he acts in accordance with it, is a kaafir, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “That is because they hate that which Allaah has sent down (this Qur’aan and Islamic laws); so He has made their deeds fruitless†[Muhammad 47:9] 6 – Whoever makes fun of anything in the religion of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), or makes fun of any texts that refer to rewards or punishments, is a kaafir. The evidence for that is the verse (interpretation of the meaning): “Say: Was it at Allaah, and His Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and His Messenger that you were mocking? Make no excuse; you disbelieved after you had believed†[al-Tawbah 9:65-66] 7 – Sihr (witchcraft) – including spells to turn one person against another or to make someone love another. Whoever does this or approves of it is a kaafir. The evidence for that is the verse (interpretation of the meaning): “but neither of these two (angels) taught anyone (such things) till they had said, ‘We are for trial, so disbelieve not (by learning this magic from us)’†[al-Baqarah 2:102] 8 – Supporting the mushrikeen and helping them against the Muslims. The evidence for that is the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Awliyaa’ (friends, protectors, helpers), they are but Awliyaa’ of each other. And if any amongst you takes them (as Awliyaa’), then surely, he is one of them. Verily, Allaah guides not those people who are the Zaalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers and unjust)†[al-Maa'idah 5:51] 9 – Whoever believes that some people are allowed to operate outside the law of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) just as al-Khidr operated outside the law of Moosa (peace be upon him) is a kaafir, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers†[Aal ‘Imraan 3:85] 10 – Turning away from the religion of Allaah, not learning it and not acting in accordance with it. The evidence for that is the verse (interpretation of the meaning): “And who does more wrong than he who is reminded of the Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of his Lord, then turns aside therefrom? Verily, We shall exact retribution from the Mujrimoon (criminals, disbelievers, polytheists, sinners)†[al-Sajdah 32:22] With regard to all of these acts that nullify Islam, it makes no difference whether a person is joking, serious or afraid, unless he is forced to do it. All of them are very serious, and they all happen a great deal. The Muslim should beware of them and fear falling into them. We seek refuge with Allaah from the things that may incur His wrath and painful punishment. May Allaah send blessings and peace upon the best of His creation, Muhammad, and upon his family and companions. The fourth category includes those who believe that the systems and laws devised by men are better than the sharee’ah of Islam, or equal to it; or that it is permissible to refer to them for judgements and rulings, even if he believes that referring to sharee’ah is better; or that the Islamic system is not fit to be applied in the twentieth century; or that it was the cause of the Muslims’ backwardness; or that it should be limited to a person’s relationship with his Lord and not have anything to do with the other affairs of life The fourth category also includes those who think that carrying out the ruling of Allaah by cutting off the hand of the thief or stoning the married adulterer is not appropriate in the modern age. That also includes: everyone who believes that it is permissible to rule according to something other than the laws of Allaah with regard to interactions, hudood punishments or other matters, even if he does not believe that that is better than the ruling of sharee’ah, because by doing so he is regarding as permissible something that Allaah has forbidden according to consensus, and everyone who regards as permissible something that Allaah has forbidden and is well known to be forbidden in Islam, such that no Muslim has any excuse for not knowing that it is forbidden, such as adultery, alcohol and riba, and ruling by something other than the sharee’ah of Allaah, is a kaafir according to the consensus of the Muslims. We ask Allaah to help us all to do that which pleases Him, and to guide us and all the Muslims to His Straight Path, for He is All Hearing, Ever-Responsive. May Allaah send blessings and peace upon our Prophet Muhammad and his family and companions. Islam Q&A (www.islam-qa.com)

Tukaale, Thanks brother for using the time-saving tactics of refraining from useless squabbles, because you know some people are taught to be always right, no matter what!

For Ducaqabe, and Sister Rahima, thank you indeed for your suggestions and insights, though I stand with my remarks fully on the basis of my unwavering support for my Islamic religion. My curse wasn't uttered out of reason, it was prompted by the unjustified and wrongful blasphemy of Bashir Got (=Mas). None of us disagrees that the renegade - Bashir Goth - is in contridiction with our religion, but the question is how can the likes of certain people in this forum are running around here asking for the deletion of my faithful curses towards Bashir Goth, who deserved more than that? What wrong did I do, and to be called for the elimination of my post, when I was realy enraged for days with the grievious remarks against my most beloved thing in this world: Islam. I understand that some people can say something that reflects their own ignorance, but I am talking about here people who are able to bring on some narrations of the prophet, (scw), and still would like me to withdraw from defending our religion. iPod Athena, Its inappropriate, hateful and disgusting. Defeding my religion is inappropriate! My curse towards Bashir Goth was hateful! And, togather my inappropriate style of delivering the curse, the curse itself, as well as me, personally are all disgusting! Therefore, to her, Bashir Goth was not only appropriate, but more unhateful and undisgusting. You see, my sister, there is a great Somali proverb that says, "Rag iska dhici iyo Rabbi ka cabso isku meel ma galaan." That you were trying to subdue me from raising my objections against Bashir, because for some XYZ reasons, you went far beyond the legitamate boundaries of our faith. No problem, you've the right to say whatever you want as did Mr. Bashir, but can you allow me to exercise my Allah-given rights to defend my religion, and leave alone my final resort Habaar/Curse? I don't know if the people like to exaggarate things or not, but I find no un-islamic elements in my Habaar that was aimed at the article of Mr. Goth or Snake, and his mouth that uttered the injurious statements. I believe there is no one among us that can proof if the writings on the article were solely to that of Mr.Snake, except his name at the end of it. Its possible that the article was not exactly the views of Mr. Snake, as happen before with the cases of Weris Dirie and Ayan Hersi who are nothing but western instruments. And if that is so, and surely the auther was a non-muslim who, after Bashir's religious sale-off compliance, used his name, then my Habaar is not only sacred but holy. And I still ask the Almighty Allah with sincerity that HE displays on the mouth of Bashir Goth shocking signs that the entire humanity horrifies. Because he delibarately insulted our religion and people in the daylight, without showing any remorse or subsequent repentful article. O Allah, please accept my prayers and curses for we're currently weak and unable to physically revenge for his remarks. Aamiin, ilaahoow aqbal oo ajiib! N.B. I am asking for my fellow assembly of this forum to forgive me if I did any wrong or hurted anybod's feeling unintentionaly, for I wish no one to keep animosity in this holy month of Ramadan.

Originally posted by Aeronwen: quote:Originally posted by Alle-ubaahne: Kaas diinta ku aflagaadooday muxuu dhaamaa hadda kuwii nabiga (scw) dhibi jiray, sida Abuu Lahab? Bashir Godoow, Naarta Jahanamo Salkeeda ku waar, ilaah aan ka baryee! Oo afka aad diinteena iyo dumarkeena ku caaysay, masiibo dagdag ah ilaah haka soo saaro! Laa xawla walaa quwati ilaa bilaahi caliyal cadiim . I can't believe I am reading this sort of habaar in Ramadan. What planet is this guy from? Acuudu bilaah. :eek: I don't know why it matters what planet I came from, they guy insulted our religion and Muslim women in blatant language. Whether you approve my habaar or not, that is another issue, but you don't need to defend someone who strongly stands with his un-islamic position. And, let me tell you this, if you are Muslim enough, you wouldn't feel sympathy for that renegade and blasphemous hypocrit! Please check your iimaan and improve it; that is all I can advise you, sister/brother.

^waa runtaa saaxiib, arimahaan internet-ka ku saabsan badi waxaa la arkaa inay yihiin bogus, ama been-abuur. sidaas darteeed waa in laga feejignaadaa, insha allah.

^^Sister, what food are you talking about, it seems that youi are describing about the recipes of Maraq + Dooro iyo something like Basbaas, is that right? Why all the sisters would like to have excessive basbaas with all their meals? I don't think that is healthy!

Haruun, Thanks my brother for understanding that. My sister will hopefuly get convinced from where we are coming from, as she gathers her own facts to streigthen this issue. I don't know, brother Haruun, if you heard Knaan's attendance at one of the U.N. conferrences to speak about his music philosophy and the current fate of Somalia. Those people are already at work by framing this poor singer's mind, so that our youth becomes oblivious from their respective social obligations. All those famous Somali individuals have became an insult to our people, let alone good attributions they've tried to earn for us collectively.

JB, waan ku salaamay duqa. Ramadaan kariim, adiga iyo aqyaarta sharafta leh. Wiilo, haye warka isii bal, goormaa lagaa dhigay Moderator, waaba is dagaal saneen, maanteey iigu soo dhiibeen ul dheer/garuun duqoobay! Ar aan ka cararo meesha, nabee war ma yaalo, mineey Wiilo noqotay kaabo-galaas!

^^I wonder how the moderators manage such environments, esp. the political section, where disrespect is the norm, and personal attacks are the first resort policy, which can be caay before they caay you.