Originally posted by NGONGE: quote:Originally posted by xiinfaniin: NOGNE, There you gave a lengthy speech with little or no substance! You went off on a tangent, rambled aimlessly and predictably made little or no sense at all. The issue before you is very simple and you need to take a stance: 1- Is it appropriate to introduce a 5-year child to a gay literature? Whether the fact Muslims don’t necessarily need to rationalize divinely imposed orders contradicts with my claim of homosexuality being a deviation from the norm is beside the point adeer ( I can start you by pointing out that man is born in a state of fitrah, purity, and what comes after birth is due to external influences, and not necessarily an innate quality). The point I am trying to make though (and most people understood it and actually took a stance on it) is exposing young children to such a gay suggestive contents is wrong and harmful. Tolerance has nothing to do with it. This is a badly chosen matter and it can actually be objected on many grounds. Hating, or badmouthing as you try to disguise it in your creative writing, is not my forte! I don’t subscribe to the notion that sins deaden hearts eternally or prevent moral reform. In the other words there is always a hope that sinners could recover from their wicked ways and find guidance hence there’s no point in hating a potential Muslim from my perspective. But it seems that you are utterly confused and failed to distinguish between protesting against a particular wrongdoing and expressing repulsiveness about it AND hating certain group or category of sinners. The two are different yaa Xaaji! Despite what the nincompoops that are quick to brand whoever does not agree with their stances say, my points were clear, saaxib. The substance was all their if you stop being stubborn for a minute and read it with an open heart and mind. I shall not bore you with a long speech (or creative writing). I will instead answer your question that it is indeed wrong to teach five-year-olds about homosexuality. However, it is only wrong in my book and yours not in democratic, secular and multicultural societies. The hate message, by the way, was not aimed at you for I have not seen any hatred in your words. The issue of ‘natural’ and ‘unnatural’ is what I picked you up on. Again, I repeat, the powers that be (which don’t happen to be Muslim) have decided it’s ok to teach children about homosexuality. I feel no need to do summersaults and flail my arms about in protest, because this, truly, does not come as a big shock. I was right that you were the only Integrationist I knew that would welcome the practise of gay and lesbianism, even to the minds of innocent kids! You are now revealing yourself publicly! :mad:

Originally posted by General Duke: Northerner, what do you think of the five Somali's raping a 7 year old girl in Mogadishu who is now at the age of 11 being treated in Rochester Minnesota? Rape is not a problem brought by "invaders" saxib.. Nacalatullah calaa kuli dabo-dhilif, for their passiveness and complete infidelness!

Originally posted by Centurion: quote: It doesn't matter who/what MC voted for; who/what the majority of Canadian citizens voted for is what factors, the rest will share responsibility. Isn't that what Democracy is about? If the majority of Canadians vote for an increase of 10% in federal taxes, it will not absolve those who voted against it from paying the taxes. Right, you've gone from accusing him of voting for the present government, to concluding that it doesnt matter who he voted for, as a Canadian citizen he is guilty of whatever crime his government(one he hasnt necessarily voted for) commits. I hope you can see the fallacy in your argument. Why can't you see him (MC Xamar) proclaiming to be a Canadian and yet avoiding what it comes with i.e. the atrocities they commit in the Muslim world? Its like saying I was a Nazi supporter but was not responsible the massacre of polish people! The Canadian system and everyone who believed in that system is responsible for the killing and torture of our late brother, period!

^^Midhaa waxaa tahay haweeney maseer badan, magac badal badnidaa walaaleey?! P.S. Each nick of yours reminds me (though I thought they were of different people) a particular period of time that I used to abhore you deeply! Ilaa iyo hadda kuma jecli, runtii! I am sure that I will die if I marry you! lol

I knew that you loved the jewish and the christians more than your relatives! Keep up the compassion for Gaalo........ Najis duli ah!

Ilaahow naga soo gaar, adaa weyn oo waaxid ahee! Yaa Rabi, You are our superpower, please Help us! Inaa lilaahi wa inaa ileyhi raajicuun, dumarkeeniina waa kuwaas la ihaaneystay, maxaa noo haray maanta??!!

Thanks for all those organizers indeed for they showed the true Spirit of Somalinimo in support for the struggle against the enemy of Somalia, that is Ethiopia. Guuleysta, oo waligiin ha liicina, IA. this movement is across the board and will bring more Somalis onboard, IA. I am one of them, for now.

^^Thanks for sharing with us the good news! Imisaa ka baqtisay walaalow?

Waxaan maqli jiray "tuug intaadan tuug oran ayuu tuug ku yiraahdaa" Waan kaa warqabaa inaad duran tahay, ee ninyahow waxba yuusan hadal kaa tagin. Plus you can't say for certain where I exactly live in, the Boston thing was general Duke's bet of my whereabouts! Haye dabo-dhilifow, sidaas hanoo ahaato, no grudges, OK.

Originally posted by Alle-ubaahne: I am directing this question to the Jalaqsan of Violet. So, which type do you look like from the opposite side of the ICU? the qabiilists or the pro-Gaalos? lol

^^So, which type do you look like from the opposite side of the ICU? the qabiilists or the pro-Gaalos? lol

Of course, we can't live side by side as long you support our enemy! what else would you expect off me? How naive that you sincerely expect good of me when you always work towards the sewing of my karfan before you prepare my graveyard!! caku iyo doqon. lol

^^We are the bantuus of Islam, and you are the Ethiopian who happen to speak Somalia with alot of bondages with the Ethiopians than Somalis. I got that with precision! Maxaa kale, about the slavery thing, well... you need to prove it so as to believe it. And tell us where in your religion of Puntland-Ethiopia it says to enslave others, if any? By the way, I am glad that I was blessed to be from the heritage of different clans of Somalia, including the subclan that shares Gaalkacyo with us. You never enslaved anyone, don't mislead ignorant self! lol

Originally posted by Pi: LOL@ Signitature. I don't think anybody would disagree that wadaads are genuine people. But who exactly can be called a wadaad. Therein lies the disagreement. Certainly not "Sheikh" indhacadde, or "sheikh" Aweys, or "sheikh" cayrow. These blood-sucking, god-forsaken, hypocrites are in the dust bin. Good riddance to bad rubbish, indeed. I guess you are OK as long as you hate the Wadaads of a certain clan!!!! What is very true is that you won't enter the paradise of Allah that Sh. Aweys is bound to, sax?

Originally posted by Violet: quote:Originally posted by Alle-ubaahne: ^^Then who should stay with politics, only your sick uncle, who hails from the sickest people in Somalia? lol You do more in discrediting the ICU than any TFG supporter here could ever. Thank you. You didn't answer my seemingly bad question, though I know its not proper to insult the man that you worship round the clock! Ii sheeg bal abaayo, yaan siyaasada u deynaa maanta iney nagu maamulaan?

I am simply saying that they are unwanted part of somalia who had chosen to support Ethiopia wholeheartedly in its efforts to invade Somalia. Gaalkacyo doesn't belong to you, only a subclan of yours had settled in with us 70 years ago, and that is wellknown in the historical account of the region. I suggest your subclan to be expatriated from our city soon, saaxiib.

^^You are so desperate to get equal scores in this regard so that we become no different from your wicked practices! Najis!

LOL@Something! Well, they are something in this case, or nothing at times. ehehehehehe. I didn't know even how I typed it!

^^I don't love them as long as they support Gaalo and wish destructios to all of us! There is no way I can love something who hates our existance as true believers. I can only do that if I was a silly Christian, sax?

^^Then who should stay with politics, only your sick uncle, who hails from the sickest people in Somalia? lol

******** are my people, but the real question still stands, and you are not willing to shed any light on it. The sad thing is, you are not going to continue this way forever! Saaxiib the same qabyaalad you believe exists on the other side, if not, you would be in good shape now. I am coming to a solid point that you are out of our folds in all aspects! [ March 10, 2007, 06:32 AM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

Originally posted by Taako Man: K'naan wholely supports the ICU. It is like a person who doesn't use guns/or advocate for guns supports the NRA. Maybe his intentions are 'right', but surely, any singer who continues to sings and advocates for a movement which would ban them is walking on wet grounds? You are accusing K'naan because of his tribe, that is alright, but don't worry when everybody accusses Abdullaahi Beerlaawe because of his clan! the line goes in tat way....

Originally posted by Cara: I think the anti-TFG crowd is getting a little carried away with the personal attacks. It's a pity, because they have the moral high ground here. Or maybe it's fitting, since the ICU likewise squandered the goodwill and popular support of the people, to disastrous consequences. what personal attack are you reffering here, Eedo! We still enjoy the support of all Somali people against the invaders. Our address is Islam, as always, and we haven't lost any moral high ground. Maxay tahay inkaarta, eedo?

Originally posted by Taako Man: ^ Najis is the crazy ideas you harbour for your fellow muslims of North Galkacyo. Why can't you not answer the decent question asked by brother Taliban? Why do you have to circle around and waste our time, saaxiib! I love Gaalkacyo, its my hometown, though I was born in Xamar, but I please answer the question **********! [ March 10, 2007, 06:30 AM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

Originally posted by Taako Man: I AM SIMPLY A MUSLIM. I am not shia, I am not sunni and I am not sufi and I am not a taliban and I am not wahaabi and I am not a qutubi and I am not any of these divisions. I AM A MUSLIM. Allah s.w.t will judge me as a person and as a muslim and not that I was a taliban per se. Maad su'aasha ka jawaabtid, ***********! [ March 10, 2007, 06:28 AM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]