lol @ at Mr. Me, my friend you don't know anything about me. So in your own judgement, Somaliland is hate and all that negative you have perpetrated about it is true? that simply won't fly my friend. I sense deep hatred from your thoughts, so just as you took the case of Djabuti lightly, I would also to tell you to not 'loose any sleep'over this one;Somaliland. Just so you know, I am not going to be like anyone else here my friend,just to please you, what you see (like it or not) is what you are going to get from all the time,either you like or you leave it, it's that simple. But for now let me set the record straight for few individuals in here who have gotten the wrong impression of what I am all about. First regarding my consistency or lack thereof: I have to say it's good to be consistent, because it shows which that you strongly beleive is unshakebale by anything, however when it comes to lame and messy so called politics of Somalis, it's rather hard to be consistant, since seemingly all Somali politics are based on tribal and are probagated to be benefited from by few who share common tribal afflitions. In that case, it's actually better to not be consistent, since Somali politics itself doens't follow that trend. As a Muslim individual, I am told to be honest and straight forward whatever situation I might be in, even as small scale as cyber discussion board. It's therefore my best option to first see both sides of the debate and then take reasonable stance from that point forward. Some poeple may not like this approach, but I believe I have to speak up of my mind of what is right, not what is favorable to hear to some individuals. In this particular topic, I have disagreed Mr. Me, after he made some baised remarks towards Somaliland, I disagreed with him not, because he naturally gets kick out of Somaliland bashing, but because I felt his comments were bais and unfair, meant to undermine the good success story of Somaliland. On the other hand, Mr. Qudhac stated that I wasn't a man enough, or simply wetbag/coward, who is afriad to stand up for what he believes. Let me simply put it this way, without going overboard.As I have stated prevouisly, two people who belong into same clan family don't necessarily have to agree on everything. If you MR. Qudhac think that I don't take strong stand or as you put it defend against those who are bothered and are itching of the Somaliland success, then you are definately not paying attention to my posts. However, what you might get confused is when I don't support the likes of Riyale Kahin, and Faisal Ali Warabe's sometime outburst of irrational comments, in which I as a Muslim individual see that there is something wrong with them although he might be my closest kin. I do take pride and I am proud to be an individual from Somaliland whom his region is stable and the success story of the horn. However I don't take pride in defending the politician's point of views as long as they are ones who have had dark past. You must differenciate these two positions, without first coming out with serious of personal insults in order to try to put down and make it seem as though I don't stand or believe what the poeple in my home region;somaliland believe in. This has always been my position, so whoever doens't like it, can once again take a hike or simply except it. This is all you folks will get from MR. RED SEA, no nonsense and straightforward, fair minded and honest towards all. So now, hadal tiro badan ma fiicnee, adoon iga haraadin, maxaa kula haboon Mr. Qudhac?

Mr. Yo YO Ma, the courts aren't just whatever that you think they are, they actually put some thoughts and they carefully calculate their actions. The city of Galkacayo is peaceful, therefore there is no need for them to enter Galkacayo. They do have the ability to do so, but that won't happen for sure.The courts' aim right now is to bring all lawless cities and set up a court in order to serve justice between people, the folks in Galkacyo have done that in their own, so what the news reports in unlikely to happen in the near future.

Dear Mr. Me It's really hard to have any sort of discussion with you since you seem to be overheated over the smallest of things. What ignited you to insult me, be a man yourself and know when to be serious and when not to be serious. Have fun, enjoy and think outwordly instead of making false assumption all over the place. In addition, I think you are the only one who isn't aware of my position of the so call somali politics. My position has been clear, so let me repeat it one more time for your benefit sir. As far as Somaliland goes, I don't see anything wrong if Somaliland seceded today from the rest, and thereafter recognized as a nation of its own. You must understand onething fellow, and that is Somaliweyne will not work as advertized, because all parties concern aren't willing to join. Both Somaliland and Djabuti aren't willing to be part of Somaliweyne, so what is your suggestion of how to take care of this "issue" to force them back into the mix perhaps? Will you continue to live in a fantasy world by calling that all Somali occupied regions must unify, when in reality both Somaliland and Djabuti don't want to have anything to do with such thing.I think you know what I am talking, and yes most of those living in the northwest of the Somali republic do actually support seccession, and that is just pure fact that I have provided nothing else. But will you then junt, that Northwester Somalis are held "hostage" by few, I expect that from you so. I am only speaking of the reality and facts that are occuring right now. So I would like to suggest to you to come up with something factual and attainable for the time being, instead of bragging about something that isn't viable nor attainable for the short term;Somaliweyne. If you want to address me or someone else, have constructive argument that is respectable by the readers and stop acting childish. Maybe you are getting caught about the comments made about you my some nomads here, refering you as "toddler", when according to you, you remember the '77' air bombardment of Hargeysa by the Ethiopians, isn't that right honestly mudane? Finally, my friend, when someone is kind and gentle with you, do all they get from you is comments such as the ones that you made about me, I am being gentle and kind towards you, but it seems all I get back is comparison to warlord cheerleaders such as Duke and Qabiil cheerleaders such as Qudhac. If you respect them, do so in your part, but further restraint in puting MR. RED SEA in the same sentence as them and that is a caution for you realize. Have a nice day.

assalamu calaykum, Jazakalahu Khayran Nur. May Allah reward you multiple times of each word that you phrase. The way I look at it is that both quality and quantity matter in your prayer. You have to meet the requirements and also you have to make sure that you fullfill every expected little action. That includes trying to concentrate and not getting distracted as well as making sure we keep our movement to a minimum.There are however somethings that we don't have control over such as our mind, but we can however try our best to concentrate and not get distracted during the prayers. thanks. assalamu calaykum.

Originally posted by Dabshid: Welcome, so dhowooow, gurigu gurigagi weeye Lol, pure Southern welcoming Mr.Dabshid, I like that, except you said "weeye" instead of the usual 'waaye'. Miskiin Macruuf, Qaxwaha igu qaba hada saxib. Cylapso, My pleasure friend.

Sharmarke, MMA and Me relax gentelman, mararka qaar, it doesn't hurt to make jokes. So I am merely making jokes here and nothing serious, for I have absulately no idea of who Sifir is except that he was from somewhere Hargeysa and he got into some sort of scuffle lately in Baidhabo. Mr. Me, brother, do you have some sort of blood pressure, relax I say and don't compare me to anyone especially Mr. Duke, we have totally two different personalities, cyber personalities that is. Mr. Me said "Kab iyo Xaarkeed makala hadhaan" Acuudu bilaah, oo kaalay inadeer, anigii reer Hargeysa kula ahaa ayaad ii qarinaysaa xabad xune? waa cajiib eh, I wonder which one is which, am I the shoe or the other brown stuff? :eek: Tan kale, hore ayuu nabigu iyo aayada badan uu Qaraanka ka mid ah inoo cadee yeen, in aanu Allah umad hagaajin, ilaa qof kasta uu naftiisa hagaajiyo, markaa qof isagii qabiil iyo uur xumo hayso in uu aniga "qabilist" igu sheego waa wax layaab leh. maahmaah baa tidhaa "maroodigu takarta ku taagan ma arkee, ka kale ta kutaagan ayuu arkaa". This is perfect phrase for our situation, so yeah, I don't mind being called a "tribilist, knowing that this whole generation of Somalis are doomed into the same category. Keep entertaining us all, for you are among us.

This is very lengthy piece, so skim over it, or I even dare you to read all the way through! W.Q. Axmed Maxamed Jaamac -- Alla ha u naxariistee marxuum Xaaji Cabdi Cawed (Indhadeero) ayaa 7-dii Julay,2006 ku geeriyooday magaalada Burco ee xarunta gobolka Togdheer, isagoo bes u dhintay. Marxuum Xaaji Cabdi Cawed - Indha DeeroMarxuum Xaaji Cabdi Cawed Cali waxa uu ahaa ganacsade weyn oo muddo dheer ku soo dhex-jiray hawlaha baayac-mushtariga, wuxuuna ka mid ahaa tijaarta waaweyn ee reer Somaliland iyo guud ahaan Soomaalida. Alla ha u naxariistee habeen Jimce ah ayuu go’ay, waxaana baroor-diiqdii aaskiisa ka soo qayb galay kumanaan dadweyne ah, oo ka kala yimi gobolo iyo degaamo kala duwan, oo Somaliland iyo meelo kaleba ah, iyadoo uu qofkasta oo maqla marxxuum Geerida Marxuum INDHADEERO uu ku tiraabayey “Nin weyn baa maanta dhintayâ€, laakiin waxay tiraabta taa ku xigtay waxa iyana mar walba ahayd “geeridu waa xaq, waana la wada hurran yahayâ€. Haddaba, Axmed Maxamed Jaamac (Axmed Dheere) ayaa soo ururiyey qaybo ka mid ah taariikh-nololeedkii marxuum Xaaji Cabdi Cawed Cali (Indhadeero), isaga oo wax ka waydiiyey dad badan oo wax ka yaqaanay sooyaalkii ganacsi iyo hab-dhaqankii shakhsiga ahaa ee marxuumka oo ay ka mid yihiin Jaamac Xaaji Axmed (Dhegeyste) iyo Xasan Cabdi Khayre, wuxuuna qoraalkiisa ku bilaabay: “Alla ha u naxariistee sooyaalkii taariikheed ee marxuum: Xaaji Cabdi Cawed Cali (Indhadeero)suurtagal ma aha in hal maqaal ama dhawr maqaal lagu soo koobo, sidoo kalena suurtagal ma aha in maalmo dhawr ah lagu soo wada helo macluumaadka iyo waxyaalaha la xidhiidha sooyaalka taariikheed ee marxuumka, laakiin waxaan halkan idiinku soo gud-binayaa intii ilaa hadda ii suurtagashay inaan soo ururiyo, macluumaadkaas oo qaarna yahay waxyaalaha aan ka xusuusto, qaar-na ka soo ururiyey dad kala duduwan oo aan la kulmay, waxna ka waydiiyey sooyaalkii taariikheed ee marxuumka, iyadoo laga eegayo dhinacyada sooyaalkiisii ganacsi iyo hadii ay tahay waayihiisii nololeed iyo hadii ay tahay hab-dhaqankiisii shakhsiga ahaaba, isaga oo lagaa dabeecado ama sifooyin si gaar ah loogu xusuusto hab-dhaqankiisii shakhsiga ahaa. Marxuum Indhadeero waxa uu dhashay sannadkii 1943-kii, wuxuuna ku dhashay degaanka Caynabo, sidaa darteed marxuumku wuxuu geeriyooday, isagoo 63 jir ah. Arinta xiisaha leh ee aan jeclaystay inaan halkan ku xuso, waxay tahay in marxuumku dhashay maalin Jimce ah, isla markaana wuxuu dhintay maalin Jimce (Illaah baa og xikmadda ku jirta, koleybase waa maalin wanaagsan). Marxuum Indhadeero waxa uu ka dhashay qoys reer baadiye ama xoola-dhaqato ah, halkaas ayuuna yaraantiisii soo barbaaray, hase yeeshee isagoo 7 jir ah ayuu aabihii Cawed Cali dhintay, wuxuuna marxuum Cawed Cali markii dhintay ifka kaga tegay 5 caruur ah iyo hooyadood (2 gab-dhood & 3 wiil). Sidoo kale marxuum isagoo 8 jir ah, ayey hooyadii oo la odhan jiray Qaafo Jaamac, iyana geeriyootay, waa sannad ka dib geeridii aabihii, waxayna labada waalid-ba ku dhinteen miyiga isla degaamada Caynaba. Marxuum Indhadeero iyo walaalihiiba waxay agoon iyo rajoba noqdeen, iyagoo yar yar oo aan weli ciidammin, taasina dab-can waa duruuf adag oo nololeed. Hase yeeshee marxuum Indhadeero markii ay hooyadii iyo aabihiiba geeriyoodeen, wuxuu markiiba ku hammiyey inuu magaalo galo, isaga oo markaa u diyaar garoobay sidii uu u waajihi lahaa tacan iyo halgan nololeed oo adag si ay isaga iyo walaalihiiba uga samata-baxaan waayaha agoonimo iyo rajo-nimo ee la soo deristay.. Sidaa darteed sannadkii 1955-kii ayuu marxuum Indhadeero markii u horaysay magaalo galay, wuxuuna galay magaalada Burco, halkaas ayuuna ka bilaabay noloshiisii magaalo ee u horaysay, isaga oo 12 jir ah. Dabadeed marxuum Indhadeero waxa uu markiiba magaalada Burco ka bilaabay shaqo dhinaca ganacsiga, isagoo mih-nadiisa ganacsi ka bilaabay heerka ugu hooseeya ee laga bilaabo ama laga unko dhaqdhaqaaqyada dhinaca ganacsiga, wuxuuna iibin jiray badeecado yar yar oo ay ka mid ahaayeen: Kabriido, maqasyada, irbadaha, sigaarka IWM., badeecahaa yar yar-na wuxuu marxuumku ku qaaddan jiray bahal Qufad la yidhaahdo oo ahay weel badeecaha lagu qaado oo qoorta la sudho, taas oo marka maanta la eego weel ahaan u dhigmaysa bacaha nooca loo yaqaan Ila-qabad. Marxuum Indhadeero wuxuu ganacsiga noocaas muddo sannado ah ayuu sii wadday, kumana khasaarin ee macaash baa u kordhayey mar-ba marka ka dambaysa, isagoo mar walba dedaal ugu jiray sidii uu u sii horumarin lahaa mih-naddiisa ganacsi. Hase yeeshee sannadkii 1962-kii ayuu markii u horaysay hore uga dhaqaaqay heerkiisii ganacsi ee bilowga ahaa, wuxuuna bilaabay inuu isaga goosha magaalooyin ay ka mid yihiin Burco, Berbera iyo Hargeysa, isagoo inta uu badeecado ka soo iibsado magaalooyinka Berbera iyo Hargeysa u iibgeyn jiray meelo ay ka mid yihiin magaalada Burco iyo meelo kale, isla markaana wuxuu markiiba ku xidhmay rag badan oo ka mid ahaa bahdii ganacsiga ee magaalooyinka uu isaga gooshi jiray. Tusaale ahaan magaalada Berbera meheradaha ama ganacsatada uu la macaamili jiray waxa ka mid ahaa nin magaciisa la odhan jiray Kulayb Xuseen oo Yameni ahaa, oo magaalada Berbera ku lahaa dukaan weyn oo badeecado kala duwan lagu iibiyo. Sidoo kale magaalada Burco meheradaha oo la macaamili jiray waxa ka mid ahaa dukaan weyn oo uu lahaa nin la odhan jiray Cabdalle Xasabadle oo dhalasho ahaan asalkiisu ahaa Turki, laakiin ahaa nin Carabta aad ula dhaqmay oo Carab la moodi jiray. Dukaanka Cabdalle Xasabadle wuxuu caan ku ahaa iibinta gaasta oo aan had iyo goor laga waayi jirin. Dabadeedna dukaankaa ayuu marxuum Indhadeero inta badan dhigan jiray badeecadaha uu ka soo waarido magaalooyinka kale, laakiin muddo ka dib Cabdalle Xasabadle wuxuu noqday iibiya oo ka shaqeeya badeecadaha uu Marxuum Indhadeero soo waarido. Hase yeeshee marxuum Indhadeero markii uu muddo waddey ganacsigiisii isaga-gooshidda magaalo ilaa magaalo ee waliba sii horumariyey ayuu hore uga sii gudbay, wuxuuna sannadkii 1967-kii magaalada Burco ka furay dukaankiisii u horeeyey, isaga oo isla sannadkaa magaalada Burco ka furay laba dukaan, oo mid lagu iibin jiray raashinka, midna lagu iibin jiray badeecaha bagaasha loo yaqaan, sida: Dharka,IWM. Dabadeedna wixii xiligaa ka dambeeyey marxuum Indhadeero wuxuu salka u dhigay dhaqdhaqaaq ganacsi oo balaadhan, isaga oo isla xiliyadaa bilaabay inuu sii durugsado oo halkii uu meelo dalka gudihiisa ah badeecadaha ka soo waaridi jiray u bedelay inuu dalalka debedaha qaarkood ka soo waarido badeecado ganacsi, sida dalkii la odhan jiray Koonfurta-Yameneed, gaar ahaan magaalo madaxdiisii Caddan, wuxuuna badeecadaha qaarkood ku soo raran jiray diyaaradda Al-yamda la yidhaahdo. Marka laga yimaaddo ganacsigiisii dhinaca iibinta badeecadaha, waxa kale oo uu sannadkii 1972-kii geedi socodkiisii ganacsi ku soo kordhiyey nooc cusub oo ganacsi oo aan xiliyada la aqoonin, taas oo ahayd ganacsi xawaaladaha, wuxuuna qofkii u horeeyey ee xiliyadaa ganacsiga waxa loo yaqaan ganacsiga xawaaladaha bilaabay, isaga oo lacagaha ka soo xawili jiray meelo ay ka mid yihiin dalalka Khaliijka Carabta iyo dalka Yamen. Indhadeero oo geel deeq ah siinaya maxaabiista Jeelka markii laga siidaayey Xabsiga 1984kiiGeedi socodka ganacsi ee marxuum Indhadeero mar-ba marka ka dambaysa wuu sii xoogaysanayey, oo kor buu u sii kacayey, wuxuuse aad u sii kob-cay sannadihii toddobaatanaadkii, isagoo meelo kala duduwan oo dhulka Soomaalida ku fidiyey dhaqdhaqaaqiisii ganacsi, waxaana magaalada Burco oo xarun u ahayd ka sokow ka mid ahaa meelihii kale ee uu dhaqdhaqaaqiisa ganacsi ku fidiyey magaalooyinka Hargeysa, Ceerigaabo, Berbera iyo Muqdisho iyo meelo kale, meelahaas oo uu ka furtay Laamo iyo wakiillo. Sidoo kale sannadihii toddobaatanaadkii marxuumku wuxuu sii balaadhiyey dhaqdhaqaaqiisii ganacsi ee dhinaca debedaha, wuxuuna bilaabay inuu badeecaha ka soo waarido meelo fog-fog oo dunida ah, sida dalka Hindiya oo uu keeni jiray badeecado ay ka mid yihiin: Kabo la odhan jiray Sandhal oo aad loo isticmaali jiray, Macawiso iyo Go’yaal xariir ah, badeecadahaas oo iibintoodu meheradihiisu si gaar ah caan ugu ahaayeen. Sidoo kale marxuum Indhadeero horaantii toddobaatanaadkii wuxuu saami (Share) ku yeeshay Wershaddii saabuunta ee la odhan jiray BAIL oo ku taalay magaalada Muqdisho, waxayna Wershaddaa wada yeesheen nin la yidhaahdo Xiiray Qaasin Weheliye. Sannadkii 1974-kii ayuu marxuum Indhadeero waxa kale oo uu bilaabay ka baayac-mushtaraynta xoolaha nool, isaga oo u dhoofin jiray dalalka Khaliijka Carabta, iyadoo uu suuqa ugu weyn ee xoolaha loo dhoofiyaa ahaa dalka Sucuudi-Arabia. Laakiin dabayaaqadii toddobaatanaadkii ayey dawladdii Siyaad Barre mar keliya joojisay baayac-mushtarkii ay ganacsatada shicibka ahi debedaha ka soo waaridi jirtay, waxayna ku dhawaaqeen in badeecadaha debedda laga soo waarido ay dawladdu keenayso. Dabadeedna markii ay taasi dhacday ayuu marxuum Indhadeero inta badan dhaqdhaqaaqiisa u leexiyey ka ganacsiga badeecadaha dalka gudihiisa, sida Saabuuntii BAIL iyo Sonkortii ay soo saari jirtay wershaddii la odhan jiray Mareeray. Hase yeeshee muddo yar ka dib ayey dawladdii Siyaad Barre hadana ku dhawaaqday inay badeecadihii debedda laga soo waaridi jiray keeni karaan ganacsatadu, xiligaas oo uu qarxay dagaalkii 1977-kii ee dhexmaray dawladdii Siyaad ee Somaliya iyo dawladdii Mingistu ee Itoobiya, waxayna dawladdii sidaa ku dhawaaqday ka dib markii ay Tah-li-kari wayday inay soo waarido bucsharidihii iyo badeecadihii ganacsi ee debedaha looga baahnaa. Markaa ayuu marxuum Indhadeero halkiisii ka bilaabay ganacsigii uu debedaha wax ka soo waaridi jiray. Dhinaca ganacsigii debedaha marka la eego magaalada Caddan ee caasimadda u ahaan jirtay dalka la odhan jiray Yamenta Koonfureed ayaa xiliyadii u horeeyey noqotay marrinka ama goobta ugu weyn ee uu ka goosho dhaqdhaqaaqiisa ganacsi ee debeduhu. Hase yeeshee xiliyadaa waxa dalka Yamenta Koonfureed, gaar ahaan magaalada Caddan ka qarxay dagaallo Ahliya, waxaana halkaa ka dhashay mushkilado carqaladeeyey xasiloonidii iyo geedisocodkii hanaankii ganacsiga, taasina waxay keentay inuu marxuum Indhadeero halkaa ku sii waddi kari-waayo dhaqdhaqaaqiisii ganacsi, ka dibna wuxuu u wareegay dhinaca dalka Djibouti, halkaas oo uu ruqsadda ganacsi ee LC-ga loo yaqaan kaga ganacsan jiray, una noqotay marrin ama goob ganacsi oo ay badeecadihiisa ganacsi ee dunida isaga gud-bayaa ka gooshaan. Hase yeeshee marka laga yimaaddo badeecadaha uu dhinaca debedaha ka soo waaridi jiray waxa kale oo uu marxuumku sannadihii sideetamaadkii si weyn u xoojiyey ganacsigiisii dhoofinta xoolaha nool, taasina waxay keentay si weyn u sii kobco ganacsigiisu, wuxuuna noqday ganacsade oo waxna dhoofiya, waxna soo dejiya (Import & Export). Xukunkii dilka ahaa iyo ayaamihii murugada. Sida la ogyahay horaantii sannadihii sideetamaadkii waxa bilaabay halgankii hubaysnaa ee uu hormuudka ka ahaa ururkii SNM, waxayna xiliyadii dawladdii Siyaad Barre bilowday olole isugu jira xadhig, dil, boob hantiyeed iyo Caga-juglayn ay kula kacayso dadkii taageersanaa halgankii hubaysnaa ee SNM, arintaasina waxay saamaysay guud ahaan bulsho-weyntii ku dhaqnayd gobolladii la odhan jiray gobolada waqooyi ee dal-weynihii burburay ee Jamhuuriyaddii Soomaaliya oo hadda ah Somaliland, gaar ahaanse dadka ay ka mid ahaayeen tijaarta, aqoonyahannada, dadka madaxda ah iyo guud ahaan hogaamiyayaasha bulshada ayey arintaasi si gaar ah u sii saamaysay, kuwaas oo inta badan bartilmaameed u ahaa maamulayaashii iyo saraakiishii dawladii Siyaad Barre. Sidaa darteed marxuum Indhadeero wuxuu ka mid ahaa dadkii uu sida xusuusta leh u saameeyey cadaadiskii ay dawladdii Siyaad Barre saartay dadkii ku dhaqnaa goboladii waqooyi ee Jamhuuriyaddii Soomaaliya, waxaana marxuum Indhadeero maalmo ka mid ah waayihii noloshiisa isagoo nool, hadana lagu tiriyey dunida geerida. Ka dib markii uu ka mid noqday dhawr iyo afartan qof oo ay maxkamaddii Milateri ee dawladdii Siyaad Barre amar ku bixisay in dhegta dhiigga loo darro, taas oo sannadkii 1984-kii magaalada Burco ilaa 45 qof oo isugu jiray, ganacsato, saraakiil dawladeed, aqoonyahanno, dhalinyaro, odayaal iyo wax-garad kale lagu xukumay dil toogasho ah, iyadoo lagu eedeeyey inay taageero hantiyeed iyo mid ciidan-ba siiyeen ururkii SNM ee dagaalka hubaysan kula jiray dawladdii Siyaad Barre. Hase yeeshee 45-kaa qofkaa subixii dhegta loo darayey waxa ka bad-baaday laba qof oo kala ahaa Indhadeero iyo Koofiyad-dheere oo isna ahaa ganacsade reer Burco ah. Maxaa dhacay, sidee bay labadaa nin subaxaa uga bad-baadeen dilkii lagu fuliyey saaxiibadoodii kale ay isku duruufta ahaayeen ?. Alla ha u naxariistee marxuum Indhadeero wuxuu ka mid ahaa dadkii taageerada dhaqaale ka geysan jiray halgankii hubaysnaa ee uu ururkii SNM hormuudka ka ahaa, dabadeedna waxay dawladdii Siyaad Barre amar ku bixisay in la xidho Indhadeero, ka dibna xadhiga ka sokow waxa lagu xukumay dil iyo in hantidiisa lala wareego, iyadoo xiligaa lagu eedaynayey in raashin iyo dirays u raray SNM. Marxuum Indhadeero xiliga lagu xukumay dilka iyo hantidiisa oo lala wareego wuxuu ku sugnaa dalka Djibouti, laakiin Indhadeero markii uu maqlay adigana dil baa lagugu xukumay wixii hanti ahaa kuu yaalay gudaha dalkii Soomaaliyana waa lala wareegay ayuu go’aansaday inuu soo dhoofo oo dalka gudihiisa soo galo, balse dad badan ayaa la hadlay oo kula taliyey inaanu tegin, ee hadii hantidiisii lala wareegay uu naftiisa bad-baadiyo, wuxuuse ku adkaystay inuu tego, isaga oo yidhi hadii aan aduunkaygii waayo, naftaydana aan waayo. Dabadeedna inta uu baabuur Landrover ah oo uu lahaa Djibouti ka soo kaxaystay ayuu socod dhinaca dhulka ku soo galay magaalada Hargeysa. Marxuum Indhadeero wuxuu magaalada Hargeysa soo galay goor fiid ah, ka dibna isaga oo aan meel kale u leex-leexan ayuu markuu soo galay afka iskaga shubay xafiiskii taliyihii qaybtii 26aad ee ciidamadii dawladdii Siyaad Barre oo xiligaa ahaa Janaraal Gaani, iyadoo Janaraal Gaani ahaa sarkaal awood badan oo dawladdii Siyaad Barre ee Muqdisho fadhiday uga wakiil ah, go’aamada iyo amarrada dilalka, xadhiga iyo dhaca hantida dadweynaha. Marxuum Indhadeero siduu u sii socday ayuu isla taagay ilaaladii joogtay albaabkii xafiiskii Gaani, ka dibna wuxuu ku yidhi waxaan ahay ninka Indhadeero la yidhaahdo waxaana doonayaa Gaani, dabadeedna mid ka mid ah ilaaladii ayaa intuu Gaani u tagey ku yidhi taliye waxaa ku doonaya nin Indhadeero la yidhaahdo, ka dibna Gaani ayaa yaabay, oo u qaadan-waayey Indhadeero ayaa albaabka taagan oo ku doonaya, wuxuuna hoosta iska waydiiyey waar malaa ninkii aad dilka ku xukuntay ku dooni-maayo, dabadeedna nin sarkaal ah oo markaa agtiisa fadhiyey, Indhadeerona garanayey ayuu Gaani ku yidhi bal Orod ninka la sheegayaa inuu Indhadeero yahay soo hubi, dabadeedna ninkii sarkaalka ahaa markuu soo xaqiijiyey ayuu Gaani ku soo noqday oo ku yidhi taliye waa isagii, ka dibna Gaani ayaa yidhi ii soo daaya. Indhadeero ayaa u soo galay Gaani oo soo horfadhiistay, waxayna markii u horaysay Indhadeero iyo Gaani is-dhaafsadeen su’aalo dareenku ka sasayo, wuxuun Gaani ugu horayn Indhadeero ku yidhi “maxaad soo doontay miyaanad ogayn inaad dil ku xukumman tahayâ€. Ka dibna Indhadeero wuxuu taa kaga jawaabay “waxaan u imi inaan ogaado sababta aad anigana dilka iigu xukuntay, xoolahaygana ula wareegtay, waa maxay dembiga aan dalkayga iyo dawladaada ka galayâ€. Gaani isaga oo fajacsan oo la yaabban dhiirranaanta ninkan aanay cabsiduba ka muuqan ayuu ku yidhi Indhadeero orod caawa iska tag oo berito ii kaalay, dabadeedna Indhadeero intuu habeenkii gurigiisii Hargeysa iska seexday ayuu subaxnimadii u tegay Gaani, ka dibna Gaani wuxuu Indhadeero ku qaaday diyaaraddiisii khaaska ahayd, wuxuuna geeyey magaalada Burco, waxaana lagu ridday xabsiga, halkaas oo ku sii xidhnaayeen raggii kale ee iyagana dilka loo haystay. Habeen dambe ayey maxkamaddii milateriga ee dawladdii Siyaad Barre Indhadeero iyo raggii kale ee dilka ku xukunnaa ee xabsiga ku jiray waxay amar ku bixisay in si degdeg ah dilkooda loo fuliyo, dabadeedna subaxdii dambe ayaa 45-koodiiba inta laba-laba iyo saddex-saddex la isugu soo xidh-xidhay loo dareeriyey garoonkii dilka, laakiin markii baabuurtii soo qaadaysay la soo saaray ayaa waxa mar keliya Muqdisho ka soo dhacay Taar la leeyahay labadaa nin Indhadeero iyo Koofiyad-dheero waa inaad dilkooda yara hakisaan. Ka dibna inta labadoodii xabsigii lagu celiyey ayaa 43-kii kale goor barqo ah dhamaantood dhegta dhiigga loo daray (Illaahay naxariistiisa janno haka waraabiyee), iyadoo uu Gaani wax badan ku dedaalay inaanay labadii nin ka hadhin dilka, aadna ugu xummaaday markii la yidhi dilkooda hala hakiyo. Laakiin xaqiiqdu waxay tahay toodii ayaan gelin oo calaf baa u laabnaa, ka wax dila, waxna nooleeyaana waa Allaha weyn, ee waaxidka ah. Ragga maalintaa la laayey waxa ka mid ahaa xubno Qaasin Qodax oo ahaa ganacsade weyn oo reer Burco ah, nin isna la odhan jiray Soonaani iyo nin kale oo isna la odhan jiray Dheg-jar iyo nin kale oo sarkaal ahaa oo la odhan jiray Qorrane. Indhadeero iyo Koofiyad-dheere waxa maalintii dambe loo dhaadhiciyey xabsiga Mandheero, waxaana lagu tilmaamay inay yihiin dil sugayaal, halkaas oo ay ku sii xidhnaayeen muddo ilaa afar bilood ah, laakiin markii ay xabsigaa afar bilood ku jireen ayaa hadana loo wareejiyey xabsi Muqdisho ku yaal, iyadoo lagu riday mid ka mid ah godadkii ad-adkaa ee halkaa ku yaalay, halkaasna waxay ku sii xidhnaayeen muddo kale, waxaase magaalada Muqdisho ka socday dedaalo ay dhinacyo kala duwani wadeen oo lagu baadi-doonayo sidii labadaa nin ee odayaasha ah loo sii dayn lahaa, waxaana raga dhinaca Indhadeero ka socday ee dedaaladaa wax ka waddey ka xusuustaa Suldaan Cali (Suldaankii guud ee H/Jeclo), Xasan Cabdi Khayre oo ahaa sarkaal sare oo ciidamadii Asluubta ah (hadana ah wasiirka boosaha Somaliland) iyo rag kale. Dabadeed waxay socotaba maalintii dambe ayuu Siyaad Barre ii keena ninka Indhadeero la yidhaahdo, ka dibna waa loo keenay, iyadoo ay markaa weheliyeen suldaan Cali iyo Xasan Cabdi Khayre. Markii ay Indhadeero iyo Siyaad Barre isa soo horfadhiisteen ayuu Siyaad Barre markiiba dabada qabsaday hadal dheer, oo uu aakhirkii soo gebagebeeyey, waan ku cafiyey. Dabadeedna Indhadeero wuxuu Siyaad Barre waydiiyey su’aal ahayd “ma naftayda oo qudha ayaad cafiday, mise aniga iyo maalkaygabaâ€. Siyaad Barre ayaa taa kaga jawaabay “mayee adiga uu qudha ayaan cafiyey ee maalkaaga dawladda la wareegtayâ€. Hase yeeshee alla ha u naxariistee marxuum Indhadeero intaa kagama hadhin hadalka ee wuxuu hadana ku celiyey Siyaad Barre “hadii aad aniga I cafiday, maalkaygana ii sii daaâ€. Ka dibna dood iyo wada hadal dheer oo dhexmaray laba dhinac oo kala ahaa, Indhadeero iyo odayaashii weheliyey oo dhinac ah iyo Siyaad Barre oo dhinac ka dib, wuxuu Siyaad Barre markii dambe yidhi adiga iyo maalkaagaba waan cafiyey, wuxuuna Siyaad Barre amar ku bixiyey in Indhadeero hantidii lagala wareegay oo dhan loo fasaxo. Intaa ka dibna wuxuu Indhadeero bilaabay hawl-gal adag oo uu dib ugu urursanayo hantidiisii ku filiqsanayd dalka gudihiisa ee sida boobka ah loola wareegay, waxayna maamulayaashii iyo saraakiishii dawladdii Siyaad Barre isla muteen dhibaato badan, isagoo nin walba intuu budh isla hortaagay ku yidhi ii soo tiri aduunkaygii aad guratay. Waxay socotaba marxuum Indhadeero inta badan hantidiisii dib ayey gacantiisa ugu soo noqotay, ka dibna halkiisii ayuu dib uga bilaabay hawlihiisii ganacsi, dibna u wada furay xafiisyadiisii iyo bakhaaradiisii albaabada loo xidhay ee wixii hoos-yaalayna la daad-guraystay. Sannadkii 1988-kii markii ay xoogaggii ururka SNM gulufka milateri ku soo galeen gudaha gobolada Somaliland ee ay foodda is-dareen ciidamadii dawladdii Siyaad Barre waa tii ay dalka ka dhacday masiibadii laxaadka lahayd ee dad iyo duunyoba galaaftay, ka dib markii ay ciidamadii Siyaad Barre ee hubka culus haystay duqeeyeen magaalooyinka intooda badan, taasina ay galaafatay dad aan tiradooda la koobi Karin iyo sidoo kale burbur hantiyeed oo qayral-xad ah. Ka dibna dadweynihii wixii bad-baaday waxay intooda badan u qaxeen dalka Itoobiya ee aynu deriska nahay iyo qaar u qaxay meelo kaleba sida Djibouti. Sidaa darteed xiligaa dhaqaalihii iyo hantidii marxuum Indhadeero waxa soo gaadhay burbur iyo dhaawac weyn, taas oo ay xiligii hantidii marxuum Indhadeero inta badan baaba’day, iyadoo ay taasi qayb ka ahayd burburkii iyo dhibaatadii dalka ku habsatay. Xiligaa marxuum Indhadeero wuxuu ka mid ahaa dadkii u talaabay dhinaca Itoobiya, ka dibna markii uu Itoobiya u gud-bay wuxuu halkaa dib uga bilaabay dhaqdhaqaaq ganacsi, isaga oo dedaal mar kale u galay sidii uu u soo noolayn lahaa hawlihiisii ganacsi, wuxuuna laamo ganacsi ka furay meelo ay ka mid yihiin Dirir-dawa, Harta-sheekha, Xarshin iyo meelo kale, iyadoo ay xaruntiisa weyni ahayd magaalada Dirir-dawa, isla markaana maadaama ay hantidiisii dalka gudihiisa taalay inta badan baaba’day marxuumku ganacsiga uu dhinaca Itoobiya ka bilaabay waxa xudun u ahaa hantidii u taalay meelaha dalka debediisa ah. Lasoco qayb kale ...

Hello I am Red Sea-- well not really but welcome, I am just welcoming you and wow I like you already. I am kidding except the liking part, so welcome Clypso to SOL online Somali community, I hope you enjoy your time here, and I as well as I am sure others, are very glad to have you as a member of this good forum.

He deserves I gues. Kolay 'gaw' 'naw' baw' jaw' iyo 'gaw' ayuu ka yidhi Baidhabo isaga oo jooga, Hargeysana wuu ka tagay, so yes dhabiga haloo qoree daa baajuunta.

The courts objective is clear and it's not something to create confusion and to waste our precious time over. First the Ethiopian (Amxaaro) troops must withdraw from Somali soil, then we can have any talks that you request, this is where the courts' stand,so where does col. warlord yey stand on this issue? Before the Ethiopian troops entered Somalia, they (the courts) were more than willing to negotiate warlord Yey's government and only since the Ethiopian troops entered Somalia did the courts backed off from further talks until a complete withdrawal of Ethiopian troops from the Somali territory occurs. Abdullahi Yusuf knew the courts weren't probably going to have any sort of discusions with him if he didn't respect the initial agreements between the courts and his TFG which was to halt any steps to bring foreing troops into the country since they were the opposition group and thus willing to nagotiate. So this itself broke the initial promise made by the TFG of not to bring foreing troops before the talks resumed.They did, so the courts refused and this is exactly the right move and the wise choice of this political game. Mr. Naxar, did I mention to you that you complain too much, well you do by the way. First show me the government the befits in the term 'government' then we can support it, you are blaming the people here to support non existing and nonfunctioning piece of garbage assembled somewhere else, does that make any sense at all, I think I don't understand why you have to support it at all. thanks, Mr. REDY.

Mr. Nayruus, you said the same thing in a thread that you posted about some SL army soldiers crossing over to Puntland few weeks back, I am wondering how important does a news have in order to be reported on the BBC? If the BBC didn't report it then so what? you are giving the BBC too much credit here bro. 'One man said something and he was arrested in Hargeysa', doesn't this sound a bird's "fart"itself to you compare to the larger scale and the political mess in the south today in which understandibly the BBC is paying more attention to. The man probably allready knew where Somaliland and Somaliweyne issue stand, so if I were him, I probably wouldn't utter such thing on Somaliland's home turf having the mind set that I'd be waking up from the cell next morning. It's just common sense. Thanks, Mr.REDy

IBTISM, honey not all guys are the way you described them to be, remember there are ones that are good for something. There are those who respect women and fully responsible, but reading between your lines, I can sense that you probably have seen the wrong group of guys.So I think there are many guys out there and I mean Somali guys that are good for many things, so can you not combine us all guys into one big fat zero no good for anything category? Thanks in advance. Mr.Redy

lol@Modesty, right on sis.

Assalamu calaykum, Mr. Tornado(Duufaan) I am not a "fan" of the courts as you have said, but I think the biggest reasons that I support these group of men (the Islamic courts) is I think they have a chance to do many things that the Somalis are in dire need of. I think they can be that of which the Somali people have been lacking in their history. They have the chance to bring all Somalis together and for once create peace and harmony between the Somali people of which clanism and amnosity has plaqued in their history. The Somali people are said to be 98% muslims,but yet to have a government who rules based on the Quranic and Sunnah teachings, I think the courts have the potential to accomplish that and more if only given the chance for which they can prove to us all that solution to the broad somali problems is viable. that is all. Assalamu calaykum.

Originally posted by Endeavour: No competition hands down Ethiopians our men are lagging behind immensely. But then again beauty is in the eye of the beholder. NO way, if I was a girl, I wouldn't even get near Ethiopian guys and their yellowish teeth. Yuck. the Somali guys are bit skinny, but they get the job done. The Somali girls vs. Ethiopian girls, Well Ethiopian are okay, but I like my Xalimos better. So I vote for them for being better looking.

what? lol. sheh you are funny one indeed. Well, maybe pass over some that green burning down through your pockets.

nope not good enough.The foreing journalist was killed by millitia men in Muqdisho which had nothing to do with the courts, therefore if we apply these two cases together, then the conclusion would be that the courts had nothing to do with the killing of Swedish journalist and therefore have also nothing to do with the latest murder of Deero. However, I think this plot to kill Deerow is not far away from Baidhabo and the parliament in which he was a member of. The other killing of military officers were also commited by none other than those sitting in Baidhabo today such as Qanyare, Qaybdiid etc. So know who you are accusing first without reaching any conclusions of this fresh murder case.

Abdullahi Yusuf and other members of the parliament of the so called 'government' are closely link to the killing of Deerow ***** more than the courts could ever be. So no way jose.

Whatever Yo Yo Ma and Sheh. I think all people don't think the same, some like to spend their money and time in little more beneficial way and some simply "I went to this and did this and that". So once again don't mind me and carry on with your chit chat ladies and gents. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Duufaan: Inkastoo larumaysan karin warka iidmaale news hadana, kooxaha muqdisho cidiyaha ayay kudagaa lamayaan. Bal hada noo sheeg sida ay cidiyaha ugu dagaalamayaan. Wadaadadu haday rabaan in ay wax ka qabtaan qabqablayaasha Baidhabo isku uruursaday, waxaa hubaal ah in ay maalin ku qaadateen. Nin miskiin ah oo qabqable ahayn in ay dilaana uma baahna, taasi iyaga ra'yigooda maaha. Laakin aragtidoodu kawayn sidaa.

I belong to his sub clan, I denounce everything he uttered there. He is pure ***** , how does that sound? Garaad Canood, I think I overheard you saying few unpleasant things about the courts, correct?

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: quote: MOGADISHU, July 5 (Reuters) - Somali Islamist militia shot dead two people demanding to watch the World Cup semi-final, witnesses said on Wednesday, in the latest sign of a hardline religious edge to the newly powerful movement. Four others were wounded in the fracas outside a cinema. The Islamists, who kicked U.S.-backed warlords out of Mogadishu then took control of a large swathe of southern Somalia last month, initially sought to project a moderate image but have been increasingly showing a more radical side. Tuesday night's shooting came when militiamen in the central town of Dusa Mareb -- the home area of the Islamists' hardline leader Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys -- shut a cinema showing the Germany-Italy semi-final, inhabitants told Reuters. "They stood in front of the cinema and told the cinema to shut down quickly," resident Muhubo Warsame said by phone. When the mainly young audience began a demonstration outside, the gunmen first shot into the air, but their bullets also killed two and wounded four others, the witnesses said. The fatalities were the cinema owner and a young girl. "Islam does not accept killing an innocent person without reason," Elmi Abdullahi, a local elder, told Reuters. "We support the Islamic courts, yet our children are dying without reason," added another elder, who asked not to be named. There have been numerous other reports of militia from the Islamic sharia courts -- out of which the movement grew -- stopping viewings of the World Cup, provoking public protests. Islamist leaders say that is not their policy, but rather the work of over-zealous militiamen. The Islamist militia see World Cup gatherings as a potential magnet for vices like rowdiness or chewing of the popular and mildly narcotic qat leaf. Prior to the takeover of Mogadishu, Islamist militia had also been cracking down on pornographic films. AID CONVOY IN FRACAS Somalis, who initially welcomed the relative pacification of Mogadishu and other areas by the Islamists, are becoming disillusioned with some of their practices and nervous of a Taliban-style rule. Somalis are mostly moderate Muslims. On a recent visit to Mogadishu, various locals complained to Reuters of militia forcibly chopping long hair, making women cover their faces and whipping people for watching soccer. The sheikhs at the forefront of the movement say they have no foreign model and their priority is to bring law and order to the Horn of Africa nation, which has been without central rule since warlords ousted a military dictator in 1991. But Aweys also wants to see government based on Islamic law. That puts the Islamists at odds with the weak interim government -- based in the provincial town of Baidoa -- which is backed by the West and was founded on a secular charter. A delegation from the African Union (AU) and east African inter-governmental peace body IGAD was visiting Baidoa on Wednesday in the latest effort by the international community to come to terms with Somalia's power-shift. While many hoped the Islamists and government could reach a power-sharing accord, they now fear armed confrontation. Underlining the insecurity throughout Somalia, the U.N. World Food Programme (WFP) said a convoy carrying food aid from Kenya was attacked during a tribal conflict in the south. WFP spokesman Peter Smerdon said its transport sub-contractors had given varying accounts of some casualties, but details had not been confirmed. (Additional reporting by Guled Mohamed, Jack Kimball and Andrew Cawthorne in Nairobi) does thath help caano? LOL. Mr. Naxar is that the best you can do my dear friend, Reuters? Sorry friend, this article is invalid.

NAXAR NUGAALEED, Did someone call you a prick, I think whoever uttered that went too far. They shouldn't have said it, because you are Muslima and fellow Somali, therefore I disagree with those who are attacking you personally rather than your ideas.

Ninkii Duke ahaa qosol gariir ayaa ku dhacay. ahaaaaaaa, talk about crocodile tears. So what? what if it was carrying weapons after all. Stop pissing in your pants Duke. You started it, then deal with it. Ma maxkamada ayaa faraha baruur kusita.Hanoqon sidii hashii geele ahayd ee intay geela kale qaniinto hadana cabaada. Abdullahi Yusuf demanded the arms embargo to be lifted, so now the courts are getting little some something of their own.

My dear brother Oromia, First and foremost let me say welcome brother. Furthermore, you are absulately right and I am all for anything that can unite the Muslims in the horn. I know that our brothers, the Oromos are in struggle for their freedom. So I hope and I am absulately willing to see Oromos and Somalis form unity, not because they are Oromos and Somalis but because they are brotherly Muslim people who should have one intention and that is to eradicate the enemies of the Muslim Umah in the horn, primarily Ethiopia (the Tigrays and Amhara). Assalamu Calaykum.