Jaylaani, well I am a citizen of the country, don't I have the right to critize my president and my country, freedom of speech? Besides, I relate to both Lixle and Koodbuur. I could sue Riyale Kahin himself, oh yeah better believe itbudd, I would put him through the system. ta kale, kolay Riyaale Shacabka kamoo soo dhaadhico karo, mashquul ayey ku yihiin waxaan la ogayn, ee in ay magaalada xaganba ay qaybi jirto war umahayaan. So laying a finger on me in Hargeysa is like playing with fire, well at least I think it's.lol. Anyways bro, I been there quiet few times, well, I just left there in 1998, then went back more in '02'03. It has gotten even better as I have seen vidoes. Angela, it's the truth, dont' ask me what is next,I dont' make decision of the feature of mankind, ask its owners, Allah.

^what bro? didn't get it, type that in English rather.

^we'll see you there then insha Allah, I will be siping the coffee in my hood in Laanta Hawada or Calamadaha.Hope your second trip goes well Insha Allah and have safe return bro.

Duuliye, ukaadi awoowe ilka yare, waan lasocdaa taas, horana waan usheegay, in aanay fari ka qodnayn wali. Jaylaani, ilama aha in aad indho ii samaynaysid, ee Riyale iyo Sh.Axmed Shariif in aanay sinayn mid madow igaga jiro ma aha. Besides, Jay, I don't have to know someone personally, their actions and their doings tell me enough to know the nature of that person.I am not even accusing Riyale of crimes against humanity while serving NSS branch in Berbera,since Allah forgives All sins,but I am saying his current status quo as compare to Sh.Shariif Axmed,they are not comparable, I am favoring Sh.Axmed. You asked whom is Sh.Axmed addressing? well, he is addressing the people who have taken the comments of Faysal Ali Warabe seriously, in which clearly our man(to do justice) misquoted him by saying that the Shariif threatened the peaceful existance of Somaliland and sounded like his "uncle" Ali Mahdi, which he never did,he made that clear in this comments yesterday.But we dont' need to look things in whether you are with or against us, we need to do justice.

^well, that I didn't know you had in mind,but thanks for telling.I have always questioned myself "maxaa sidan u gartay shakhsigan".But you have answered clearly there. I think I have told you before,that the tribes that you are talking about play vital role in the ICU.Them tribes, your tribes are in the ICU that is well known,my tribe also plays vital role, but that is no where the reason as to why I support them.So if you thought everything in reverse, then it's your problem.I live in Western country, in which the lowest of low practice what you are practicing(merely Qabiil). If that is your thought process,maybe consider that everyoen doesn't hold the same believes and thoughts as you have. Besides, I have lived long enough, well at least I can catch up of what happened in the past by reading, and I am fully aware, that only Allah can bring upon someone' demise,it has been attempted by various clan to cleanse each other,but each clan is strong today, so what you said won't happen in my opinion nor do I wish for it to happen.So relax a little and get rid of this fear that is taking hold of you yaa Akh. anyways, have it your way, and I shall have it my way.Fair enough? Duuliye, his claims are non existant,they are widely based on assumptions he made to satisfy his own personal demise.Besides to see Duke wishing other and wanting others to have what he wants for himself is not going to happen, he just aint that kinda of character, that cares for other,he serves the interest of his uncle,which I have no problem with. one last note: if you General think the ICU have that potential of giving all the properties back to its owners and thus everything will be nice, if you know that much already, why can't except the simple truth instead of fighting your true nature,because I know you know the truth,but you just think it's emberassing to admit the truth.

^Sheikh Shariif Axmed Allah baa haybad iyo jeclaansho ka siiyey dadka agtooda.Isaga iyo Riyaale kaahin Ilaahay iyo dadka agtooda kama sina.Isagu dadkuu lahadlayaa uu dajinayaa, ee waxaa ku fiican oo uu xaq u leeyey in uu further canbaarayn usoo jeediyo Riyale iyo wixii daba socdaba ee ku kacay kana masuul ah falal ka xun ee ka dhacay Hargeysa. Duke: inaga daa ha inagu kicin mr. Alleh Ubaahnee, waa iska nin daacada, just gets work up by all these success.Sidiisa kale waa nin wanaagsan, raali waan ka ahay.

^One step at a time.The south is still in state of confusion, to even mention Puntland at this moment is too early, let alone Somaliland which requires further plans,then simply let us take over the place.Things are not as easy as you might think folks, the ICU knows,but I am afraid our cyber fans of the ICU aren't aware of that. So let us slow down a bit, have a political goals which are attainable both in long and short term.So far the ICU is still phase one, to bring the south under control without creating further conflict.How to deal with the TFG,is still not be done, so along long way is to go,no need to get fired up of something that is still in works, the plan of spreading the message to TFG controled areas,Puntland, Somaliland and beyond. Alleh Ubaahne,focus here,this much calaacal is doing damage to your credibility as reliable cyber fan of the ICU,you have the credibility at the moment,don't damage it. Sharmarke, Inadeer, you did raised some valid point,but I don't appriaciate you considering the job well done by the people of Somaliland as an absulate Zero.Go back home and see how things are going,forget the political so call leaders,but the people and the land is what is all about.In my opinion, no region can stand along side our success story,considering that the blame should mounted on the shoulders of the politicians and not the poeple. So in your humble opinion, Baidhabo is for the better of the people then Somaliland? that is exactly what is wrong with these people, if Dahir Riyale Kahin was former NSS, then maybe consider the leader of "somaliweyne" in Baidhabo as a warlord, and besides isn't the TFG a proxy of Ethiopia as well.

Originally posted by Jaylaani: Mr. Red, I took a lot of pixs from Boorame to Burco....but I wouldn't put it here. This place doesn't deserve this beautiful picture of Sheikh and Wajaale. They would make it political issue and I wouldn't let it happen. This was my first trip in 20 years. I visited every single historical site in Somaliland before and after the civil war….people thought I was crazy. Jay, are you kidding me bro, how can one behold the treasure from the ever wanting eye,my eyes. I love the place to death, and would like nothing more than seeing fresh new pics before I start going on my own trip which is, this upcoming summer insha Allah,so please brother do me favor yaa Jay and put the son of guns up here.If people here get worked up inside when they see the success of Somaliland,then who cares buddy, by not posting it here,you are concealing the evidence of the success story. Juji, perhaps, dust is everywhere, remember, the mountains are always in lower temperature then down town, so it could be that those houses sweat over night and thus dust might hit while the sweat of the overnight was still fresh--cabiish. Paragon, what made you so sure, dont' tell me this place is Norway, and one of those small houses is where you reside.

^could be the drift of the heavy rains and dust combine,and in which after that the snow fall hit. It could also simply be the dirt or the dust attracted by the homes from the dirt streets.Good enough.

^well, Jay, it started out as hail accompanying the rainfall,but later it turned into snow, or else hail wouldn't have to be cleared out of the road,as the the report indicates. The area of the picture looks bit familiar, it's the outskirt of Hargeysa,near the mountain(Badhka)where people used to get executed during the last dictatorship regime. p.s, during your vacation: miyaanad sawiro soo Qaadin, waamaxay spirit SOL maad ka soo bixin Jay.

^lol.yep. Waaar heedhe Wiil balaayo, miyaad sii gudbisay, haa u sheeg waa Hargeysa dheh, tell them it has something to do with global worming, wuxuun ku akhri. Basically, how this happened was, there was heavy dayr season rain in Hargeysa at this time, while it was pouring, all of sudden the atmosphere changed into colder temperatures, thus making the rainfall turn to heavy snow fall which cars and people couldnt' move out of their "drive ways "for 20 hours (it starting to sound like Minnesota). Anyways,it's hard to believe,but yes what you see is what you get.

Suleiman, good advice, very well put. Those who are Anti-ICU: Your lack of knowledge of the structure of the ICU and what is based upon might have lead you astray.It's shows, that folks such as yourself have been ignoring the goodwill and positives that has been accomplished by the ICU, it's really not worth to note that to you, since you can't seem to see anything smaller than Awr or perhaps shall I say, blinding yourself from the truth.It bothers not anyone of what Yey cheerleaders might think,the ICU requires the support of those who know what its cause is based on and not those who suspect the goodwill of the courts on Qabiil bases which is totally absurd to say the least.Insha Allah we shall see, the wrong doers,when time comes, I hope not that you turn your heads in the wrong direction but rather take the simple approach to excepting that the ICU is indeed everything but Qabiil based, we shall see Insha Allah, before that save us the energy,since YOU might need it in the later fadhi ku dirir times. bye

^^ooh Cambaro Cambaro, did you not know that it has goten to the point here in SOL where, when one mentions a city back home,it quickly turns into political scene even when not intended to. So I knew sooner or later,this would find itself in here. If I posted on the General topics section,I just knew it would, so I thought I oughta save the guys doing the moving,a little favor by just keeping it here to begin with.

^Could you believe, if I told you,they had their shovels out, shoeveling the snow from their doorways, they did.

well I think I saw that one coming, Google once agian getting big, what will their next move be,needless to say, they are on their way to being the dominant web based network even more so now.

^just for the ceremony I guest. On the report: what a great news, Masha Allah, whoever looks at that will never have civil wars in last 16 years in this place come to his/her mind. I am very impressed, a job well done,congrats to the new graduates.Masha Allah.

^yeah, sorry, I didn't post the image before, now check it out, mostly they freaked out quite frankly.Never in hundred years, did I ever thaught, Hargeysa would experience snow fall, well at least not before Minnesota.

Baraf Ku fadhiistay Xaafada Siinay 2006-10-10 (Hadhwanaagnews) Hargeysa (Maan) Qeybo ka mid ah xaafadda Siinay ee degmada Axmed Dhagax, ayaa waxa fadhiistay Baraf dhagaxaan waaweyn watay oo ka dhashay Roobabkii Axadii ka da’ay caasimada Hargeysa. Barafkaasi oo fadhiistay Jiingadaha Guryaha iyo wada lugeedyada dhex mara xaafada Faarax Nuur ee degmada Axmed Dhagax waxa ay cabsi weyn ku abuurtay Bulshada iyo qoysaska degan xaafadaasi. [barafkaasi oo ah kii u horeysay ee Noociisa ah waxa uu xaafadaasi fadhiyay muddo 20 saacadood ah. Ibraahim Maxamed oo ah oday 70 jir ah , isla markaana ka mid ah Bulshada ku dhaqan xaafadaasi ayaa ka hadlay sida uu Barafku ugu fadhiistay xaafadooda, waxa uu yidhi ‘’Runtii waxa ay ahayd xaaladd Naxdin iyo Amakaag nagu riday Roobabkii Axadii ka da’ay Magaalada Hargeysa oo bilaabmay wax yar ka hor xilligii Afurkii, waxa jiingadaha iyo Guryahayaga hortooda hadheeyay dhagaxaan waaweyn oo Baraf ah oo sababay in aanu waxba maqli weyno, waxa aan ku tilmaami karaa mucjiso oo toddobaatan sano oo aan jiray Maan arag Hargesya oo Baraf fadhiisto 20 saacadood oo uu dhalaali waayo’’. Oday Ibraahim Maxamed Isagoo hadalkiisa sii wata waxa uu yidhi ‘’Waxa markii dhagxaantii barafka ahaa oo qiyaastii mid weliba Nuskiiloo leekaa aan ka baqnay in guryuhu dumaan waxana aanu bilownay alle Barri iyo ducooyin’’. Sidoo kale Masuuliyiin ka tirsan degmada Axmed Dhagax oo aanu la xidhiidhnay , ayaa sheegay in dawlada Hoose iyo shacbiga xaafadaasi ay shalay duhurkii iska kaashadeen sidii Wadooyinka looga sifayn lahaa Barafka xaafadaasi fadhiistay. Masuuliyiinta degmada Axmed Dhagax waxa ay sheegeen in Barafkaasi oo watay dhagaxaan aad u cul culus aanay cidina wax ku noqon , hase yeeshee ay bulshada xaafadaasi ku abuurtay sas iyo baqdin balaadhan. Wargeyska Maandeeq Hargeysa,Somaliland

Originally posted by AYOUB_SHEIKH: [QB] Doqoni waxay casarkii kaa maqasho bay cishihii kugu caydaa.? lol.To note, I think,the source of the topic Starters' collection of the Somali maahmaaho is from the book penned by the Somali speaking Russian George Kapchet, am I right ?

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^Much of southern Somalia, like the control they had in Bur-Hakabo today? The TFG controls were it has all a long it has not lost an inch to the courts. The courts who represent the most armed clan in Somalia controls much of the area its clan occupies and in that sense nothing has changed. Outside Mogadishu they represent no threat. Its a myth to say that it has taken over areas, the clan courts had a presence in Mogadishu, Lower Shabbele and Kismayu. The TFG did not. Red Sea: what will you say when the TFG defeats the clan courts? Will you then recognise the government, since you belive in millitary power? I think the one who is overly obsessed with power is all well too known around here,it happens to be you dear Duke. To remind you of your position a bid, you have been the one clapping whenever small movements of the supposed government troops made into Buur Hakabe and else where if ever existed,saying the "government" have taken control of Buurhakebe and Buur whatever. I am always concern of the well being of the people who might get caught in the crossfire not much of any threat that TFG might pose to the ICU which it is all clear it can't deliver such. unlike you, my support doesnt lie in the interest of my kins, I have my loyalty in my faith, Islam, wherever it might be taking place at the time, theh that is where I will give full loyalty, that can't be said about you in my opinion. One more thing, Duke, I dont' know the control of Buurhakabe, but check the news, you will see photos taken from same place, it's in the hands of the ICU--dont' believe me? check the news. Northerner: true, I have made that statement before, yet it's considered notlogic. The ICU controls only their tribal areas, and are occupying other clan territories is what I got back in response.So yeah, that trend which you have suggested doesnt' sit well with some, so anymore suggestions and ideas as to how to tell some folks here, what is going on.

^^oo kaaalay magaca Tuujiye bilaash laguma bixin ileen. Waa maxay qac baad tay. Soo digan, dadkii kii soomaraba ukala dhigay. Caadi ma tihid, bal isdaji yow, kuwa old ka ah iska daa, oo adna dhinacaaga ka gal, so far so good though.Good job, funny indeed. p.s, Wiilo, you are abusing the 'nooh' phrase, then a "Qaldaan" pretending to be Southerner--nooh.lol

^nice Plan white boy--lol. p.s, long time no see budd, where have you been hiding, in Tora Bora perhaps?--

Enough said here, I think Shiekh Alleh Ubaahne has more passion for his country and people, then you people can imagine. He might have gotten little emotional there,but no harm done anyways. However, what irritates me the most, are the ones who were so loudly cheering for the cause of the courts and suddenly now are putting quotation marks, while questioning the legitamacy of the ICU. These people should be ashamed of themselves. I can understand Duke, because he was never a supporter of the ICU,but those who were bashing him yesterday for him being anti ICU, are being anti ICU for the same reason today,because the ICU are now waking up from their supposed tribal lands.Hmm, it only makes me wonder as to why that is??!

^Good man you are Erselam.

^EXACTLY,be careful what you wishfor. Maanta Duke qosolkaa ka dhamaaday eh, it would be worthwhile if the courts showed little a$$ wopping to the so call TFG troops and their allies. Wax badan ma larabo, laakin inyar in ay awoodooda tusaan ayaa ku fiicnayd. But then again, the courts are concerned of the people that might get caught in the crossfire, which is the biggest reason the courts are avoiding bloodshed,but I say it's about time for little action. Then we will see who is laughing, oh yeah you better believe I will be saying how do you like me now once the courts hand the TFG their behind.lol Duke: what? dude, calm down a notch, I don't write between lines, what you see on here is what you get, so don't make fake assumption to satisfy your frustrations. P.S, how can one take the control of a city, then retreat from it, is that militry strategy? explain that to me yaa Somalipride,since you made those redicolous comments.