Originally posted by Tuujiyee: ^^^ Waraa adiga rabshada jooji yaah..qaldaan wiif yahoo........ Wareer Badanaa!!! waraa igoy nooh, kaftan lee wadaa aboowee nooh, ma fahminow hada.See lee waaye adi, waaba kaasoo horaysaa carada nooh.

^^lol@at the people who think Abdullahi Yusuf is legitimate president and those who consider him a leader.what a shame.

^why did the troops leave though? ever asked yourself that, don't tell me that redicolous and funny analayzes of some guy in here who stated, it was because they wanted to see the enemy positions.What positions? you would already have it if that was the case.lol. Naxar Nugaled,does the coumaflage give you some sort of superpowers when you put them on? with their Macawis and rusty Klashnakov, they will prevail.

^Did I tell you I always thought you were alien?well now you know. waryaa duufkaaga usheeg, wa halkii reer xamarkee.

assalamu calaykum, hmmm bay tidhi shimbirtii bokorowday. Let me take on you one on one, if I may. First of all, let me say a word to the topic starter, Mr. Me. you have mentioned that I have a temper problems, but to honestly deny that, I would have to say I am as cool as they come across and I say that with supreme confidence and without going over my head. Of your other claims to which you pointed that I am still "denying" the torture of Sh.Muxamed Ismail.It's not that I am denying anything my friend,however what I have denied was the existance of the tape depicting the images of supposed torture of Sh.Maxamud Ismail.However, if that may lead you to think that I am refusing to admit there was never a torture, then your mind has the right to wonder itself,and it bothers me not of what you might think. To Duke, my friend, there you go once again for making the everlasting, spining, and directionless comments in which to this minute I don't know what to make of them.My brother let me just tell you straight up, that you are not a Southerner, so whenever I speak of the south, I am speaking of Xamar, Jawhar, Kismayo, etc.If anytime I suggest that the ICU should attack and take over Northern Galkacayo, Gorowe, or whatever other Puntland city you hail from, then you may suggest that I am being unfair,but in this case I am only praising the job well done by the ICU for the southern Somali in which you are no part of. Only the folks such Xoogsade, Dhubad,Dhabshid,Paragon,Alleh Ubaahne, HornAfrique might question whether or not, my intentions are pure.It's for them to tell me that statement you have scripted above, not you, so sorry budd if you have put yourself in that position.To remind of what thing, you are from Puntland and I am from Somaliland,we both stand the same distance from the south, therefore I can as much say I want as you may have also. To Naxar Nugaled aka Frank, my dear lad, I think you get the drift.Whether it may be 900,000 or more, the figure is round aroud there,therefore, it's sure thing in which I won't ask anyone that the city of Hargeysa is inhabited by tribes from all over the Somali peninsula.They have been there before, and will always be the residents.But the question is why isn't there more reported incidents such as the this big lie made up widhwidh online,which would state that the continues imprisonment of other tribes.Offcourse, I think you have lived long enough to know that arests happen everywhere,considering a large city such as Hargeysa, and to come up with only few in every month if not a year, is quiet impresive.But all I say is don't jump to conclusions(if you choose,it's up to you),and let us see what this man considering the report of the unreliable and qabiil centered Widhwidh online's report is true, fair enough? Mansa Munsa, dear brother aka mr.captain high pantns(joke).I don't see anyone where I have lost it a bit.Maybe my points have came across to you little differently,but the matter of the fact is that there is and you should know this many many tribes that reside in Hargeysa, so for someone to suggest that no one from the "wrong" clan should ever go near Hargeysa while "gangs" are in control and before Kacaanka dalka comes back again.then I have to ask you what would you tell that one person, wouldn't you have said the same way I have said it if not adding little more salt and pepper on it,I think you would. So you may only see my rational and I am sure they, if you have only for once clear your mind from the qabiil that has clouded it and then put on magnified glasses of truth, for which would help you see things in "rational"way. The population of Hargeysa is considered between 600,000-900,000,meaning it could fall anywhere in that number line. Thanks, Assalamu calaykum.

^I dont see what is funny me, we have come to conclusion, a healthy one, which we agreed to respectably disagree. I dont' see how that is funny, unless you still laughing with qosol gariig of me taking you out to the dooxa.

^My advice to you,get a life. The city of Hargeysa population wise is close to 900,000 thousand. All these people can't possibilly be from the " right" clan. There are people from Zone five, Bari, South, as far galbeed as Djabuti, and even Oromos doing business in Hargeysa. These people have been doing business for as long as I have lived, no harm was done to them, they wonder around the streets of Hargeysa, own businesses just like everyone else. It seems though all Mr. Jordan does is go around the city of Hargeysa and whereever he sees the slightest thing of error he reports with Gigantic title such as the one above. It's unfortunate that all WidhWidh online has been doing lately is just to spread lies. For one it's good enough for those who fall for such news, but to the rest, give us break even you mr.Me, and dont' suggest that people dont' go there, in fact that shows your lack of knoweldge of your hometown, in which is resided by all somali tribes from everywhere, that is a fact, chew on that. Even my post of Hargeysa being snowy has a better chance of being closer to the truth since something solid did fall from the sky (ice) then this mediocar news of Widhwidh online.

Cayda ka aadyar Maamulada, waa Ramadan eh.

Jaylaani, bro, you dont have to apologize, it's all good.Always raali ayaan kaa ahay waxii aad qof wax isku tiin isku waanisaan. Abaadir, you have the right to speak your mind here,although it may have no effect of the reality on the ground. peace.

^Masha Allah. See how when you excercise patience, courtesy, everything falls into the right place.

^I agree, and thanks for making my points. If you get the feeling that I am falling for anything,well brother that is a problem I have with you, Qudhac, Suldaanka and many other of my fellow landers whom think whenever I speak of my mind that I am in support of Somaliweyne propagandist.As I said,I am totally fine with Sharica law coming from within, in fact that is for the better. And NO sharica doesn't have to be from teh South, I support them for cleaning up their backyard. I have always defended the blind eye, nor do I appose nor think that Somaliland is wrong of what is doing,but simply I appose the politicians and their lack of leadership.I critize Somaliland as much as I do because it's where i am from.That is all. Regarding Sh.Maxamed Ismacil, I still dont know if the one in the vidoe is him. on the last personal note that i made regarding the vidoe, well, I was just making clear that the vidoe was fake, you might have interpreted differently, since the Shikh claimed that he was tortured. anyways, Allah knows the best, so may we put his trust in him insha Allah. Thanks, and have wonderful last ten of Ramadan.

Ma tidhi, mal waayahay kab meesha aan ku aragnee bal. p.s.So far so good.

Major?? when did you elevate to that level.Mise sidii Morgan oo body guard u ahaa, ayaa xidigaha la'iska guranayaa? Major ku ye. p.s.Alleh Ubaahne ku majiro list ku jiro Duke, there must be something fishy in there, make another list, and exclude Duke.

Facts facts facts: First of all,the refugees from Somaliland didn't flee to Addis Ababa, they fled to their homeland known in Harta sheekha, Gaashaamo,Daroor, etc, these regions is claimed by Ethiopia,but they haven't done anything for me to thank them while people were there.People came under their own supervision and the welcoming of their relatives on the side of "border". Secondly, Ethiopia is taking advantage of Somaliland.If Somaliland considers the TFG as a threat to its existance,then Ethiopia is arming that group, so have that in mind. Furthermore,The fact that the SNM was kept there momentarily, then expelled after few years, when the Ethiopians signed the peace treaty with Siyad Barre, shows you that Ethiopia doesn't give rats' behind about you. If you think Ethiopia sees us as sovereign nation, then you are wrong my friend.Ethiopia views Somaliland as a tool, which they can use to launch their dirty work, that also applies to other areas as well, but strickly focusing on Somaliland since you asked. So no matter how much Malez Zenawi praises Somaliland, it is all too evident that he doesn't even have Somaliland in the back of him mind of being a nation or state, nor does he hold much respect, the day that he thinks that Somaliland is being disloyal, then you will see his real feeling towards us. The rest of the story is something that you have observe. Finally, the better question is, what has Ethiopia done for you to be so loyal to them?

^acuudu bilaah, yet another problem that might evolve from all this.

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: in democracy, you have mucaarid and muxaafid. They both can not rule even in a unity government when some minister of family affairs has a veto over all that the government does. She isn't fighting over the seat, she just spoke her mind, that is part of democracy that I know of, that is what made Bush look alike a lil monkey more so than before, because he gets rip all the time.

Originally posted by angle101: [QB] ^lol@ tora bora (man thats my favorite thing 2 say) Tora bora goes with anything.. check it.. have u been toraboraing urself?? …see lol, well no I haven't been torbraing myself, what does it mean anyway. Elvis, oops sorry, didn't mean to smoke you out like that, but how would you like if I told you I am an FBI agent myself, partially the reason I am here is to track you down,hence the warm welcoming everytime. P.S. the Calgary Flames are predicted to win the Stanley Cup, hope you won't miss it, or do you got cable or Satalite dish in Tora bora, if not just get signal from the satalite that is observing your every move from above, and catch the games.lol on the topic: I have alot of plans, just to give you one of them, I am thinking of enslaving you all.

^Balo, Alleh Ubaahne, check the man's ID card before you put him on trail.lol.

^Duke, what is wrong there? I see them laughing, what were they laughing, I don't know.I see money, how did they earn it, I don't know, neither do you or the ones who came up with this. That was less than a year ago, but tell me what happened and where Qanyare and Yalaxow have ended up. The ICU is known to extending a warm hand to all parties that are willing to cooperate or repent to their Allah. I just don't get this childish post, is it saying that the ICU can't meet with warlords if they do, they are warlords as well, very childish, or is it saying that these folks are all in the same qabiil, well then consider Gen.Morgan,and Col.Turki, both former warlords and brutal killers, who are members of the ICU today. Both of these men are repenting to their lord of their previous sins,I don't think there is anything wrong with anyone, no matter what their past looks like, who has chosen to come and return to the path of Allah as long as they are sincere with their thoughts. Just as you would like to be forgiven of your past sins, you should also realize that Allah forgives the sins of his servants.

Originally posted by Sharmarkee: Mr. Redsea, I've never said baydhabo and TFG have a better future prospectus for Somaliland, and I never underestimate the scarifice my Somalilanders did to regain their freedom and dignity, but I will never accept we gonna shut down the Somalis and bring in the ethopians. Where were u in 26th of May in 1988, when Mengistu kicked out the remainings of SNM, adhering to the orders of the Siyad Barre, they came in cos there was no other choice, they faced the mortar, the machine gun and all bombardment of a national army, the war was too close, personal and hand-to-hand,even house-to-house, the death and destruction was the order of the day. I lost my immediate family in the battle of Hargeisa. I only hate the idea Mr Redsea we gonna shut down the Somalis and get scared anything from Somalia and and bring in the Ethopians with speical treatment,that don't go down Saxiib. Never! Walaal, sharmarke i can understand your point,but dont' forget the poeple who were waving the blue flag and were saying Somali pride yesterday, are the ones runing and bringing actual Ethiopian troops into Somalia, Somaliland never brought Ethiopian troops to Somali soil did they, regardless of their relationship? Do I think Ethiopia should have nothing with the Somalis, you bet I do.Do I thin Ethiopia is Somalis' ultimate enemy, absulately. But Somaliland isnt' the only one being used or using the EThios, all Somalis are except the ICU, and that is why I support the ICU. P.S, Sharmarkee walaal, samir iyo imaan ha kaa siiyo cidii dhimatay ee ku dhimatay dagalaada.Allana ha unaxariisto-Amin.

salamu calaykum, Let me respectably address my two causins,Qudhac and Jaylaani. I am not speaking of Col.Turki or Gen.Morgan or the newly ICU members, however, I am speaking of and I am in support of Sheikh Axmed Shariif and what he had to say, that is all. We don't have to always agree on the same bases and we definately don't have to be on the same page at all times, we can have different outlook in life,surely though we have something in common which is to pursuit which that is good for the people of Somaliland.I think having people like Riyale Kahin as our leader isn't going to take you and I anywhere,I am sure you are aware of that, he is not a bright individual, as evidenced in his past doings, therefore Somaliland will never move forward with him installed on top. However what we need is a new leadership that will govern the region according to the Islamic Sharica law,and not some foreign born, man made system full of immoral errors,democracy. The people who will govern don't have to be the ICU, they can be our numerous local wadaads, religious figers whom have knoweledge of how to run a country or a region. After that happens everything else will fall into its place.This is what I have in mind, although you might see it differently. To Mr. Qudhac, my dear causin, if you have refered Sheikh Aways as zealot, then what would Riyale Kahin be, considering his doings in Berbera as a member of the NSS, what would you have to say about Adan Cadde, minister of agriculture today in Somaliland, he admitted and I heard with my two ears, that he alone killed 1000 ethnic Hargeysawis and Burcawis? I just don't get this exceptions that you are making walaal. Bringing all those who have commited crimes against the Somali people in general to justice whatever they are and whoever they is where I stand,do you? To my causin Jaylaani, walal, Shiekh Muxamed Ismacil has always been an Hargeysawi, although he originally came from the west,but has been a resident of the city of Hargeysa ever since,married from the tribes of the region. He was always a Quranic teacher,one who was respected by those who knew him, it's unfair to say the least to hold him in jail and torture him and label him as a "terrorist".You must agree walal that this is pure Dulmi and cannot be tolerated by me even if it is done by my closest kin, I would do the same if my kinsman was also in the same situation.So far, I have your word of him being a terrorist, Somaliland authorities are yet to step forward and address this issue, or at least charge him and tell what he has done to earn to be imprisoned, that is fair judgement if you ask me, and one expected from democratic state. FYI, the torture shown in the vidoe has nothing to do with the actual events that took place. assalamu calaykum.

^Democracy Frank, aint it?

Seeker, very informative, thanks,and definately, I have more questions pending for me to ask you, well it's based this topic not what mr. Me said.lol thanks alot once again.

a picture is worth thousand words, where are the folks who were saying the place was in the possession of the TGF?

^Maya maya aboowe, kaa sheegayso laftiisaa aan ku hadlaa nooh.Laakin that was extremely oo xag jira xamari dialect. Anyways, reerihii kaluunka expert ka ku ahaa ee aad ka dhalatay, oo aan is afnaqaanay ayaan ku mooday. Waxan umalayn in aanad Sanaag ba ka ag wareegin waligaa, sax?