Whether picture is fake or not,May Allah show the man and his likes the right path--that is all you can wish for.

More on ciid AlFitr in C-town. Ciid day in Hargeysa(Masjidul Jaamic). Smilly faces in Borame,

^it's already possible,but they won't.The people in Baidhabo will do the job themselves,they will get this monkey off their backs.

^Caamir, I assume that is very objective view of yours. The truth and reality on the ground speak for themsleves,what does one who writes behind computer screen know about such. Honesty and objectivity lies with those who see things beyond tribilsm,I much doubt the author is anything but that. Another tribilist minded pen holder iga dheh.

Masha Allah. Kuwii ciidan ciideeda nabad ku gaadha Allah ha ka dhigo iyo inagaba.Amin.

Originally posted by Caamir: Taaladii Sayidka miyaa. No need for stinking taalo,big up to Muqdisho and its residents. Ciid Mubarak and May Allah bless you,the ICU, for your accomplishments. Amin.

^waar bal ukaadi inadeer,amar qaadan ogidaa.ukaadiyoo,cagaha udhigoo,bal waxaan kawaday, oo ilaa haboonayd in sidaa loo qoro cinwaanka. p.s.Mr.Me's vote doesnt count,waa falaago bilaa fadhiisin ah.Marba lahjad ayuu saaraa,markaa waxaan ka hadlaynaa pure qaldaan vs. pure wanlawayn, not wanabes.

^ma Sophist, mise aniga. Hadii Gabiley laga hadlayo anaa lawaydiin karaa, laakin hadii laga hadlayo Las Anod,kaayana,waydii isaga Badhan iyo Majiyahan iyo meelaha laga kaluumaysto.lol Gabiley and Hargeysa, two sister cities. Haa Las Anod way ka dad badan tay dadka dega meelaha aad sheegtay.what is the surprise there awoow?!

^not in my book,if that is exceptable in your handy dandy Baidhabo grammer,then it's not in mind.I count details,so I expect the same from Hargeysawi like he.

^I believe I asked you the same question before,but your response was totally different.you were upset if I could recall and went on to say, I under estimated your strenght.

Originally posted by Allamagan: ^^^ typical secessionist rubish!, sxb, H Turki cid ka xigta malahan Waqooyi Galbeed. Waa shaqsi somali ah, markaa waxba mid ha soo dhowesanin midna ha saarin. Okay, then ha ku cantacoonin marka layidhaahdo ICU ayaa iminaya Gedo, fake wadaads this and fake wadaads that.Amaba dadka kale wax ha kasheegin.

^lol,oops, listen bro, I meant to write, 'wadaado ku xidhan maxkamada Xamar',anyways, this topic isn't of correct somali grammer.it's should be 'wadaado la xidhiidha maxkamadaha Xamar,oo dhaqdhaqaaq kawada Burco---there u have it. Da' ahaana dee waad iga wayn tay,ee just because I might sound mature doesn't mean I am older you are,perhaps.

There is difference between freedom fighters and Mujahidiin, a Mujaahid is one who fights in the way of Allah.So the SNM cannot be refered as Mujaahidiin,they were more like freedom fighters, fighting against the brutal regime of Barre that is all.

^good job,the two main man from Kismayo are in the house.Listen Jim and Horn, it was personal trip,but I quiet observed Kismayo and Gabiley,not thinking to compare them,but I went to them on seperate trips.Kismayo has much better tourist attractions,because of the superb Indian ocean view,trees,and the Italian flavor in the city's building,althoug mostly destroyed. However,Gabiley,is bit smaller,just a bit though,while at the same time,population wise after looking around and going from Xaafad to another in both cities,they seemed to be fairly the same,favoring more towards Gabiley.

Originally posted by Caamir: providing a sense of security to the general North West Somalis and safety to the Aid organizations should be commended. I don't think they can build roads or other economic infrastructure without a sizable loan from probably IMF--that helps member countries overcome their BOP problems or probably the International Bank for Reconstruction and Redevelopment--designed to build infrastructure. Even its sub-agency, IDA, which provides a soft loan of long-term debt, no interest or strings attached except small adminstration fees, can't come to the rescue of their vogue notions and wild claims. The above things could happen if a country is an existing entity that is recognized by the world, but that dream is far-fetched and won't come, trust me. It is better that SL adminstration realize the reality and contribute to the cross-fertilization of knowledge with its brethrens in that they can help their regions prosper and integrate faster with the rest of the world. Once again your suggestions folks are well noted.Those are the main goals and plan of the future,if Riyale and his Udub pary failed to do that,well the biggest critism he faces are as result of his corruption.By electing better and more suitable leader in the near future might answer some of that,and perhaps bring some of the things you mentioned into practice. as far as everything else goes,well I have to say, no can be too sure of anything.What if somaliland was recongnised today, then what? so I wouldn't make predictions that could well fail to happen.I am saying you just wouldn't know enough to make predictions. However,what is sad is,that one can't seem to pick his/her village from the rubles and yet they continue to try to critise another's while shamefully not realizing the bigger problems that are existing else where.

Originally posted by me: The British did NOTHING for the North of Somalia, they killed, they oppressed and they plundered our land. Who said they did something for us,or are you believing the comments made by some saying that folks in that region missed the British occupation.That is just rubbish if you ask me,if we missed them, we wouldn't be refering them as 'guumaystihii',because that is what they were there for.So tell us something that we don't know saxib,instead of trying to raise a point in which no one is arguing against. Siyaad Barre's government on the other hand, invested heavily in the North. Yes the roads that are today a source of pride for the secessionist mafia have been build by Siad Barre's government. Berbera Port was build by Siyaad Barre with Somali taxpayer’s money and so was Hargeysa Airport. Let us be realistic now, offcourse when you are President of a region, you should do that and even more.During the first days of his rule, the country was striving towards the right dirction,roads were built,schools,farms,and people were united and rallying behind their president.Until he messed it up,until he got big headed and started to think tribally rather than as a President of the whole region.To say Siyad Barre did all that is just plain shallow,because if he couldn't do even that what else would have done for the place? think rationally buddy,because you are not addressing insane people,we know how things were. Furthermore, the Hargeysa airport is in far better condition than it has ever been, and yes I am talking about during the days of aabihii Afweynimada.The Berbera port was built by foreigners, so even during the days in which Somalia was in its highs,things weren't going all that great compare to other nations that were "developing",thus most of these developments you speak of where genously done for us by the outside world, not to mention the fascist instituations in which Barre worshiped,like Russia etc. Tell us please what the secessionist mafia has done for the people of the North West, except create hate and division between the brotherly Somali people. Well well, hate and division? what does one who praises anarguably the worst creature of all the somali race has seen, know about love and unity.Siyad Barre contributed in large and should be directly blamed for hatred,amnosity, that exists between the people.He should be blamed squarly for what went wrong which lead to 16 years of chaos in the South, and under developments in other region.He should be blamed for miscalculating the disastarous war against Ethiopia,puting our young nation and our young men and women in uniform in harms way by mistakenly going on offensive at the wrong time.He was responsible for crushing the morale and the goodwill determination of the Somali people at the time.Another point of the evil regime that is worth noting is his famous bashing of our Holy verses of the Quran, saying he would cut off any verse in the Quran that said the duties of men and women aren't the same.He said he would marked it off with a red pen with his own hand. The public excutions of more than 10 wadaads is also another example of the many evil doings of that regime. His forces continously commited inhumane acts against their own people under his orders,they have commited and were responsible countless damagining acts which have wounded a nation and people on the rise,if you can't seem to see that,then I am sorry. Tell us what they have achieved except: 92 % unemployment, Khat epidemic, HIV epidemic, Uncontrolled immigration of Ethiopians The 92% unemployment rate you speakm of,addiction of Khat you mentioned, and the HIV epedemic you have ranted,exists everywhere on Somali peninsula, and even during the days of Barre regime's glory, the unemployment rate was very high,thus Somalia was considered extremely poor nation with high unemployment rate,the Khat epedemic you speak existed back then,so I don't see what is new there,not to mention Vodka imported from Russia.The HIV epedemic wasn't controlled by Barre ciidanka asluubta(lol), they werent' for Asluubta,more like to keep an eye of those who would dare speak against Barre.However, the uncontrolled immigration of Ethiopians that you speak of is something I don't know where you have gathered from,or is it just to lenghting your list? there are no uncontrolled Ethiopian immigration,few have left their country to look for work,but not nearly enough to say uncontrolled amount,mislead yourself,we are aware of the happenings of back home. Let’s judge people on their achievements. That is exactly what we judge people by,their actions,if not what else are we judging him by his tribe,no,he was of minority tribe,his looks, well you know him there---his nick was great discription of his looks.We are merely judging him of what he did.Excluding of few things that he has done over 10 year period,is overshodowed by what he and his forces commited in the last 20 years of his regime. The secessionist mafia has ruled the area for 16 years. What have they done? Actually,Somaliland declared their independance in 1991,but right after that, they went into civil war lasting two years,so it wasn't until 1997 that they got their act together, so it can be argued that Somaliland is one year older than their neighbors to the east,Puntland.But if we count when Somaliland anounced their seccession,then yes you would say that it has been 16 years,but as far as I know,majority of Hargeysa,Burco,Berbera inhabitants,were in refugee camps as recent as 1995,so does that count as having stable region,I think not. The people of the North West have done all the positive achievements themselves. Everyman rebuilt his house. The people have shown tremendous resilience. All the achievements of the North West are without the help of the secessionist mafia. Offcourse,the people is what is all about,as I have made clear many times before,no one gives rat of what few politicians do as long as they leave each other alone,which is what they have done.As far the corruption of the ruling party of Somaliland,well that is the critism they face from the main population,so nothing new there.They state exactly what you have stated there.So that is valid critism which can be made by the Somalilanders towards Udub party. The secessionist mafia tax the people with out returning anything. They are constantly on war footing with neighbouring areas; they are always professing hate and preaching clan chauvinism. Let’s not confuse with what the people of the North West have done for themselves with what the secessionist mafia has done for the people. The people of the North West would have done even better with the cooperation of its brothers and sisters in other regions. Let us not completely fail to mention during the 30 years of Siyad Barre rule,the region hasn't seen as much as college graduates from different instituions such Camoud,Hargeysa,and now Buroc University.The university of Hargeysa in it's second graduation ceremony has had more 1000 graduates in its first years of existance, and in Amoud University in Borame the success there is equall if not greater than Hargeysa, and Burco U is now on the rise.All these are positive developments which wasn't had in the Barre days. The people of the North West deserve better government. yes they do, but Barre like creature won't provide that as you wish yaa Kacaanka ahaa.So spare me and others the love bro.

^Jaylaani iyo Nabadhshe, marka aan kasoo gudubno wadal hadalada kale ee idin dhexmaraya idinka iyo Somaliweyne propagadists, ma iisheegi kartaa,goortay yidhaahdeen waxaan qabsanaynaa amaba xumaan ugaysananaa Somaliland? Sh.Axmed shariif Afkiisa ayuu ka yidhi in aanay Somaliland wanaag mooyee xumaan u hayn,markaa anigu waxaan leeyey cayda ka daaya dad aydaan garanayn waxay yihiin amaba ku salaysan yihiin. Somaliland cidii cadow ku ah, ana waa ii cadow , kaasi waa Riyale kahin iyo mujrimiinta UDUB party,ee maaha niman Xamar ka imanaya,mana iman doonaan. Anigu sidaan horay kuugu sheegay, hadii ay inalagu xukamayo diinta Islamkaa oo taas samaynayaan kuwa jooga Somaliland,waa khayr.sidaan horay ba kuugu sheegay, waan taan rajaynayo,laakin yaan waxba laga sheegin ICU da, waayo wanaag iyo sharaf ayuunbay kusoo kordhiyeen koonfur.anigu xaqa ayuunbaan ka hadlayaa,mana jecli in aan is indha tiro,oo hadii meeshu ay noqoto uun tolkaa wax laqab,dee mar marka qaar hadii ay qaldan yihiin oo ay ku hadlayaan wax aan wanaagsanyn in aan kasoo horjeesto ayaa wanaagsan.anigu cidii xumaan aan ka dareemo in ay wado,waan kasoo horjeesanaya, haduu noqdo ka iigu xiga iyo hadii kaleba.So get use to it.

^I have been to both,so I have.lol

^kaagan yar dhiigkar ayaad qabtaa runtii.Bal horta isdaji, sidii qof inyaroo caqliyi ku jiro u hadal, ha iska kar karine. U fiirso, title ka waxaad qortay, intaanad bac bac layn sida tanag xashiishka.Miskiin. It's says'wadaado ku xidhan xabsiga XAMAR,oo dhaqdhaqaaq ka wada Burco",what does that mean to you.Are they in jail and active at the same time? don't get it. All I said was that the title of the thread is confusing.So maybe go with something like this 'wadaado la xidhiidha Xamar, oo dhaqdhaqaaq kawada Burco',then I can understand. But all the emotional outburst, is just not necessarily buddy.

^MMA exactly buddy,it's better to know first isn't it,before you consider these areas as hamlets or villages? Sophist, where is Burco,Berbera,Borame,Ceerigabo in that list of yours? Gabileyna ninkii yaqaana ee arkay ayuunbaa garankara.Hargeysa duleedka haday kutaalo,micnaheedu maaha in aanay magaalo wayn ahayn.

^the title of the thread doesn't make any sense at all.

^maya runtii sheekh,idinku hadaad tihiin reer koonfureed, maxay ku dhacday in aad moodaan in ay magaaloyinku tuulo wada yihiin. Gabiley way ka dad badan tahay Kismayo taa lasoco.Lana soco dad badan ayaa Gabiley u haysta tuulo yar uu xun, laakin waa magaalo wayn.The same can be said of Qardho as well,it's not very well known, yet I it's very large city and not a village.

Here is closer look of how things are set up. Apparently Caynabo is part of Sool district, while Ayn is considered Buuhoodle, this kinda also got me confused now.Apparently it's saying that Caynabo and Ayn aren't the samething,Cayn is Buhoodle, part of Togdheer, while Caynabo is a district in Sool. So perhaps, Buuhoodle,Balidhiig,are considered as Cayn by Puntland. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Togdheer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sool

very tiresome isn't it? these kinda topics are as dry as river bed in the middle of dry season while at the same time scorched by hot heat of the sun--yeah it's really that dry.My head is spining, Buurhakabo in possession of ICU, then Burhakabo in possession of Ethiopian lead TFG,,,,, which one is it?

Originally posted by Jaylaani: ^^That is right. There is another masjid Jaamac in Hargeisa now. This one is three floors with the capacity of up 6000 people, not far from the Oriental hotel in center city. .You have to see it to believe it couz... I Prayed there.....MASHA ALLAH. Masha Allah, well, it's one of my goals to lay my forehead on the carpet of the Masjidul Jaamic and in the new Masjid you have just mentioned,it's exciting moment to look forward,to pray among your people would be something to remember. But are you sure, it can hold up to that number, wow, I have to say that is pretty spacious Mosque--Masha Allah, may Allah bless whoever help built that Masjid.