^well say what you want to say,you have that right,however,you are saying or stating what is right.the plat form of the argument should be based on what is right,not I have just posted a something on some political discussion. I think you and Frank are losing it,you need to rethink your positions,and further seperate those who want something good to happen for you over those who don't. As for the "clan courts",I think they are closer to you more than the U.S foreign policy.The U.S views us an African who isn't capable of doing anything for his own.Just thought you should know that. NN,I think with all due respect sir,you are being short sighted to say the least here,you are not being helped,the involvement of outside forces have been tried before even by the U.S and failed miserably,what makes you think it will work this time,there is gotta be a way better alternative source.

my bad on Gedo,however,the similarities is that there won't be any voilence as there was none in Kismayo.The ICU knows how to handle business without further conflict or blood being shed,that is similarity I am talking about here.

^only positive slope,it shall stay that way Insha Allah.the same situation with Kismayo,I expect the good people of Gedo to display their faithfullness. Alamagon: alamagane,arintu sidaas maaha,bal uhubso hada,hoos udhaadhac,ka yar fikir waxa meesha kujira.Waxaad sheegtay aad ayey udhowyihiin Inadeer.

Hmm,sad to not know that one does things for their own interests and not yours.It's called taking advantage of the weak and vunrable like Somalia.

he actually pulled the plug on himself,the book that was pending to be printed which was cancelled was as said as close to confession of the killing of his wife as possible.

Alamagon: Awalba runtaa sheegi jiray ee ma maantay kuu muuqatay,you better start paying attention more inadeer. Duke: as I see it abti,the areas you speak of are not under occupation,it's a region that belongs to some other Somalis,they need peace and protection like anyone else,regardless of who provides that whether it might be one outside of their Qabiil or not..and again there is no apology needed for anyone,dad is dilay oo heshiiyey ayuunbaa lanoqan karaa.

So in your mind it's reasonable to listen to the suggestion of the World' only sole super power? well we know the U.S bullies those who can't defend themesleves or simply those who are sleepwalking in which they take advantage of.I say wake up and stop kissing butt. I think it would be wise to change the channel sometimes from Fox news, it looks like you have been fed with so much propaganda. If we speak of the reality on the ground,we know what the U.S is into in Iraq and Afghanistan,therefore,are you suggesting Somalia to be the subject of the same problems that occur in Iraq,since the U.S is the cuase of the turmoil in the middle east? I expect very good respond from you mr. reasonable. DJABUTI,you are way off the topic,we are not discussing such,the question that lies here is that,is the U.S concern about the Somalis and are merely promoting the interests of the Somali people and not thier or vice versa? what is your input on this,,

go ahead tell us few things about humanity,and what the article you have posted above has to do with it frank.

^lol.Abti,it doesn't really matter how much you try to sugar coat the TFG,it's what it's is and the ICU is what it is,so is Abdullahi Yusuf and his co.You cannot change the political dynamics on the ground and I can confortably say neither can a little piece change the thinking of anyone since the truth is out there and exposed. I think actions speak louder than words,in order to be considerd legitimate then you must work for it...hard,the ICU worked for it.The TFG remains to be passive,going from Hotel to another in abroad while its citizens face danger. It has also dragged Ethiopian military personal into the country without the consent of the people.Not much care is given to the opinions and thoughts expressed by the people,their loud voices against such move is simply shut away by Ethiopia,since Ethiopia whispers into ears of the TFG. You have said Puntland supports,well to be honest as I have observed,only in some areas of Mudug,Bari as well as Nugal,I don't think Sool and Sanaag even support the TFG,more support for the ICU can be hinted in those areas. If Puntland populace didn't support the ICU,then they wouldn't have pressured the Pl adminstration to implement Islamic Sharica.Puntland in fact did just that in fear of massive uprise by the people. But since this discussion is only about the TFG,I shall stay on course. All in all,the biggest problem with the TFG isn't that it doesn't have much support from the people,not their weakness,not their illitrate leadership or anything like that,although all those hint just what the TFG is.But their biggest issue is that they are influenced to the bone by the regime in Addis,they simply can't pass a law or do anything without Ethiopia knowing what,when,where and why? or perhaps Ethiopia designes the agenda which the TFG "operates" on. thanks,

The title of the article is interesting one, it states "More than a decade after U.S troops pulled out,Somalia has fallen to Islamic fundamentalists". Great,another global war on "terror" article.Let me just play with this for the fun of it,although I know it doesnt' deserve the least amount of reply and thus should be shreded into pieces,recycled into zealded container,then dumb somewhere to far away from human sight. The U.S troops killed thousands of innocent Somalis in Muqdisho while fighting against the equally evil and miserable ousted warlords of Xamar,ALXAMDULILAH that for the ICU..that is where the Muqdisho and most of Southern Somalis stand today,what the U.S leadership says about Somalia is really irrevelant,for they have no credibility among the Somali populace.

Good stuff,credit should be given where it's due sometimes. thanks Jay.

Apology for what? the Sheikh needed not to apologize for anything.I think it's bit out of line to say,the Sheikh or others will give repression to people of Somaliland,it's not needed to even state such. Wixii ku dhintay dagaaladii Allah ha unaxariisto,cidna naf baxday masoo celin karto,dhimasho iyo dhaawacna cidwalba way ugaysatay cida kale,so no need to single out Somaliland as being the only victim of the wars,we are all victims.

^adigu se,meelkasta abti maxaad udifaacdaa wax aan sal lahayn,ma iswaydiisay taa?

Wallee Miskiin Macruuf waan kuraacay midaas. Inkastoo aanan dankalahayn sida ay u eegyihiin, se dhibta taalaa waxa weeye in ay yihiin jaajamin lasoo ururiyey oo nation building waxba ka aqoon,iska daa mid ay dhaqaan eh.

Originally posted by Caamir: It shows care and concern. Oh please brotha,waa sidee bariisna cuntaye.

MR.DUKE, History tells us those who have the same interests usually go down the same path.You accused the ICU of not being based on Sharica law,then who has encouraged PL to implement Sharica law,it's coicidence ama cadan baa laga heesayaa. As I have told you before,the homes that were taken away by the ousted warlords have been returned in some part(those claimed thus far)and Insha Allah as more people return they will be turned over in all. moreover,you may not have a word about lower shebelle,it would be good to hear those who hail from those regions and what their input would be, they would most likely support the ICU for their good work,hakugu taanaato. fact: Puntland isn't the first to say "we implemented sharica law"actually not second,it's more the third. p.s waxanoo faana iska daa,oo aad hajabayso,I don't in ay cabsi kaa keentay in aad tiraah Puntland will not be shaken and such.You feel threaten as it seems,hence for being in defense mode.

Mr. Frank, take the U.S and those ill comments,then afterwards shuff it meeshii lagaa cusbeeyey.US US,who gives rat's behind what the U.S says about Somalia.Only foolish folks would fail for that...so much for love of unity between Somalis.lol

Originally posted by Djib-Somali: Having failed to cooperate with the SSDF and deserted by the founders of the USC, the SNM progressively took, albeit unwillingly, a clanish dimension (clanic rethoric also helped to mobiluize the masses). The SSDF didn't have much agenda to cooperate,political turmoil existed within it,the USC didn't have the slightest influence on SNM just so you know.

Could have and Should have! However,one must realize that just because one politician says it,doesnt' necessarily mean it will go into effect.Faisal Ali Warabe has no authority to declare war,therefore in order to be concern we would have to have Riyale Kahin state it..so calm down,nothing bad will happen Insha Allah. Soo maal,note that there are two different Sharmarkes in this forum,maybe you have mixed them up. Faisal Cali Waraabe iyo hadaladiisa waa layaaqaan,laakin waxaa iga yaabisay qaar idinka mida oo nacayd ka dhex muuqdo,idinkuun bal isjira.

Originally posted by Caamir: ^ You mean Sool? Stunning ,thanks brother. I am glad my grandparents conquered this beautiful lands. Sool? no I meant the South,the deep South,the Afgoyes,the Banadir region,Jubas..etc. your grandparents Conquered? from whom?

Only time will tell whether Puntland can stick to its word.However,one thing to look forward is if Puntland has really adopted the Sharica law,then one should expect a cooperation between them and the ICU in Xamar,after all those who have the same interests usually bond.

We don't have a culture,if we have one,it's evident that it's bad one.Islam should be the way we do everything in life,because it's complete system which suits well everthing. Mr.Me..huh,wah? I am confused here.

^they are and were very stable region,but ruled under not the Islamic law.The people are Muslims,the system which they use isn't that of Islam,therefore,that is what is being applied here.If that deserves to be refered to be as "idiotic move" then what is the right move exactly?

^afkaaga caano boodhe lagu qabay.

more on Batalale beach,Berbera: I have fallen in love with this bird,Crown crane,the most beautiful in the region: this one as well:beautiful.. Sea side view of Daalo mountains: Caalmadow mountains(thanks for the correction Maakhir). Multitasking, the version of the farmer: