^lol....I can see you had something important coming,but decided these people don't befit your input. I think so too,so second that buddy.

Folks note that this thread is a year old.

Oath on Qur'an: Provocation or act of faith? The choice by Keith Ellison, the first Muslim in the U.S. House, to take his oath of office on his faith's holy book, has stirred a debate. Rob Hotakainen, Star Tribune Last update: December 01, 2006 – 12:09 AM Related Content Your thoughts on a Qur'an oath SWEARING-IN ON THE QUR'AN What about Rep.-elect Keith Ellison's decision to take the oath of office on the Qur'an? Tell us what you think at www.startribune.com/a2010 WASHINGTON - Rep.-elect Keith Ellison's decision to take his oath of office on the Qur'an is stirring a debate among academics and conservatives, with some of them saying it's only appropriate to take an oath on the Bible. The Minnesota Democrat says that the Constitution gives him the right to use the Muslim holy book, and that is what he intends to do on Jan. 4. "Mr. Ellison, America, not you, decides on what book its public servants take their oath," radio talk show host and author Dennis Prager wrote in his online column this week. He said that American Jews routinely have taken their oath on the Bible, even though they don't believe in the New Testament, and that if Ellison refuses to do so, "don't serve in Congress." But Eugene Volokh, a professor of law at the University of California, Los Angeles, said the Constitution authorizes people not to swear their oath at all, protecting atheists and agnostics. "Why would Muslims and others not be equally protected?" he wrote for National Review Online. Ellison, who told the Star Tribune shortly after his election victory that he planned to use the Qur'an, was attending meetings in Washington on Thursday and could not be reached for comment, according to Dave Colling, his spokesman. But Ellison defended his plan to use the Qur'an, Islam's holiest book, in an interview with Abdi Aynte, a reporter from Minneapolis who writes for the Minnesota Monitor, an independently produced political news blog. "The Constitution guarantees for everyone to take the oath of office on whichever book they prefer," Ellison was quoted as saying. "And that's what the freedom of religion is all about." Ellison's decision drew support from one prominent conservative firebrand, Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo, who champions a fence along the border with Mexico and who says that unfettered immigration endangers American culture. "He wants to take his oath on the Qur'an, that's fine," Tancredo said. "I think whatever you believe is necessary for you to uphold your obligations to the Constitution, that is fine with me." In his weekly column, Prager said Ellison's act is "an act of hubris that perfectly exemplifies multiculturalist activism." He warned that allowing Ellison to use the Qur'an could pave the way for a racist to use "his favorite book" to take the oath of office. "When all elected officials take their oaths of office with their hands on the very same book, they all affirm that some unifying value system underlies American civilization," Prager wrote. "If Keith Ellison is allowed to change that, he will be doing more damage to the unity of America and to the value system that has formed this country than the terrorists of 9/11. It is hard to believe that this is the legacy most Muslim-Americans want to bequeath to America." Ellison is the first Muslim in the nation, and the first black person from Minnesota, to become a member of the U.S. House. His campaign and election have attracted national attention because of his groundbreaking status. Five years after 9/11 and with the ongoing raw debate about clashing civilizations and Islamic extremism, Ellison downplayed the role of religion in his drive for office. He nonetheless has acknowledged that his election has thrust him into position as a spokesman for Islam in the United States. In the National Review, Volokh noted that two former presidents -- Franklin Pierce and Herbert Hoover -- didn't swear their oath but chose to affirm it. He said that the Supreme Court has long held that Americans have the right to be treated equally, regardless of their religion, and that forcing Ellison to use the Bible would violate his rights. "Letting Christians swear the oath of office, while allowing members of other denominations only to swear what ends up being a mockery of an oath -- a religious ceremony appealing to a religious belief system that they do not share -- would be [discriminatory]," Volokh wrote. Said Ron Eibensteiner, former state Republican Party chairman: "It doesn't matter if he wants to be sworn in on the Qur'an; that's perfectly fine. We have in this country freedom of religion and free speech." Tammy Lee, who ran against Ellison as an Independent in the Fifth Congressional District, agreed. "This country was founded on principles of freedom of religion. Our Constitution guarantees it, and as a newly elected member of Congress who's going to uphold the Constitution, he has every right to choose what religious traditions he wants to practice." Radio talk show host Dan Barreiro said he has been "a bit bewildered" by the concern expressed, mainly on blogs, about Ellison's choice. The topic came up Thursday on his afternoon show on KFAN. "The general consensus I got was that most people were not terrified at the prospect that this was something that he might do," Barreiro said. "Certainly there is no law that mandates that a person put their hand on a Bible as any kind of litmus test of their loyalty to the country," he added. In 2003, Minnesota Sen. Norm Coleman, who is Jewish, was sworn in with a Bible given to him by a priest who is a friend of the family. The late Minnesota Sen. Paul Wellstone, who also was Jewish, was sworn in in 1991 with a Bible from his wife Sheila's family. Staff writers Joy Powell and Lesley Clark contributed to this report. Rob Hotakainen is a correspondent in the Star Tribune Washington Bureau. Rob Hotakainen • rhotakainen@startribune.com

^OMG..lol,get your head out of the gutter legend. At first I looked at the purple sheep and was thinking why did some kid colored it purple,but you have totally different prespective..you are too observant.lol

Originally posted by Conspiracy: hehe little that you know I just know now that if you knew something that I didn't know,you wouldn't have told me that you know something that I didn't...know.

The second vidoe is prove that we can indeed go back home to not only make difference but to settle where we meant to be among those we share everything..

Originally posted by Just-A-Brotha: let's all agree to disagree, and layzie has a point, lets not clown on her, but the matter of the story is, only allah can judge, and its all about one's conscious and not appearance yes,but it has to surface brother,if you believe in something,it has to show. There are also physical requirments which every needs to meet,so by saying you believe it in inside your heart,but don't want to show it,will bring question marks of how sincere one is even inside. Besides Hijab is a dress code,but at the same time,we need to reason with girls and we shoudlnt be pushing them off the edge,be kind and take the time to tell them what is and what not if you can. Lazygirl good point.

Good tactic,then they won't be able to put all of them in prison,since they have no more room for more.lol

Originally posted by Pi: The Speaker of the Parliment was a politically expedient tool, hardly politically astute. He's an expired product. And expired products are not so useful. So as soon as someone gets off Ethio's agenda,they get dropped as "expired product",that is insane..what is wrong with you?

^which is never.lol

Waxaa dhawaan hotel maansoor ee magaalada Hargeisa lagu qabtey tartan sawir gacmeed ay ka qayb galeen ardayda wax ka barata 18 dugsiyada magaalada hargeisa oo isugu jira Hoose/ Dhexe, Tartankan oo ay soo qaban qaabisay Hayada Cuntada Aduunka ee FAO mashruuceeda Maaraynta Xogta Biyaha iyo Dhulka SWALIM ee Somaliland ayaa ujeedada tartanku waxaa ay salka ku haysay bal in ardayda da'da yar ee dugsiyada ku jirtaa ay aragtidooda mustaqbalka deegaanka somaliland ku muujiyaan sawir gacmeedyo. And the winner is >

Most certainly a good way forward. I haven't seen personally Somali raising HIV/AIDS awareness around where I live now as far as community centers,but the Mosque do raise the consequence of having sexual intercourse outside marriage,which ultimately could result as one of these diseases.

Naden,before we can proceed,can I respectably bring to your attention to not refer the Prophet Peace be upon him as 'man',insert 'the Prophet' before you refer to him as a 'man'please. The Quran and the Sunnah are two sides of the same coin,they are insepaprable,the Quran states things in fold,the Hadith explains it in details that we (average person) could understand and apply it to their daily affair. thanks in advace.

^lol..dude,the Somali don't look alike as you know,we have some that resemble like Arabs you know,there is no definate Somali skin complexion.

^nothing negative,but does it have to the vice president who needs to go over there for trade relationships..I have a feeling it was about something else. Naxar Nugaaleed,inaabti,I am not critizing anyone,just speaking against something doesn't neccsarily translate into being critic.I do appose everything I believe isnt' right regardless of it taking place in SL,PL or in the ICU controlled areas.Your opinion shouldn't always be consistant as there is no one that is always absulately right or wrong,therefore your opinions have to change based on where the truth is siding with at that moment.

Does Riyale even know what was the outcome of this meeting...I doubt it. The points of the shir is layed out in that report,there is nothing being anti-Somaliland,the motion they have put forth was simply as Beel to do things by the way of Islamic Sharica which everyone should consider as postive step in the right direction,I think these so called leaders of SL are feuling another civil war in the region. How direspectful is it to not respect the Suldaan of whole tribe specially coming without him breaking any suposed laws that were in place, absulately inexcusible.

Good article,I like it alot. thanks yarow mr. Me ahaa.

we don't need to bring this back to prove that some people are blind.

^Yemen has also its own interests in Somalia which is different from that of the somali people. So for moment,think about the Somali people and what is that good for them,the ICU not the Yemeni/Tigray fueled so called transitional government yaa "Friend".

There is no doubt,I have known this for long time now,the problem wasn't even going to be the ICU vs. TFG,in my view that is minor thing that could be solved with relative ease,however,the problem is the Tigray regime in Addis which that has its hand in the jar. If the Shariif is a important member of the TFG and thus can get along with the ICU then why can't they Abdullahi Yusuf and Geedi do the same? well,there can be only one answer to that,the parliament speak of the TFG followed his heart in realizing what is right thing to do at the moment,Abdullahi Yusuf and Geedi simply don't have the guts to do the same,the Tigray regime is watching over them you see.

Originally posted by AAliyah416: Jenna you are right sister laascaanod, is not far behind and sooner then later it will be as Hargeysa. Rudy your choice of words reveal how immature you are, so reflect on what u speak of, dont just say whatever the comes to yr mind. As you have actually criticized my hometown LA, and I demand an apology. Wa salaaam *****aykum masalam, Aaliyah,I think he is from LA as well,but still I think we need a xaal from him,Rudy,do you know what the term 'Xaal'means? if you know what it means,xaal ayaa ku qabtay,soo bood bood hee marka.

^I posted on teh wrong place,should have been moved,so I thought perhaps we could close the one up in the general section since this topic suits the 'women'section. As for the women,she is not Arab,she is pure somali daughter of a Farax.

Originally posted by Naden: No man or woman would have private details of their married life talked about but you and others see it fit for Mohammed (csw). It is pure rubbish what Bukhari and others put in their books about the sexual details of his life and everyone since then who speaks of it is violating his sanctity. Disgusting lot. No other man or woman would have, you are right on that.However,Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him wasn't just the average Joe as you make him seem,he is the one we all look up to as role model,he is the one that Allah has sent in order to rid the ignorance in people and to show the right path,not only worshiping but also normal routine things that we do in everyday life. As Allah said in Suratul Ma'idah, “...This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favor upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion.” (5:3).Our religion is perfected from every corner,it answers every question,it either permitts or doesn't everything there is to do or not do..simply Islam covers the smallest details. In this thread,as we discuss 'marriage', we are trying to look for every detail there is to support our claim,for that matter,it was only the wives of the Prophet that knew the private live of the prophet inside his home,therefore without them reporting how the Prophet went about his affairs inside his home,then we would be missing a whole portion of our faith from our daily lives as Muslims. The truth is the truth,there is no shame involved.The prophet was the one we looked up to,even some of his companions tried to do every little thing just like the noble Prophet did to an extent that werent' neccesary.However,when it comes to taking the shower,in my opinion it's very important point to know that Muslim husband and wife should have the state of mind that they can do whatever they want together that is permissable,how shall we know that is permissible,because the Prophet peace be upon him did it,how do we know that,Aisha reported,how shall we know that Aisha said such thing,the trustworthy Islamic scholar Ibn Xajar Al Cazqalini wrote it in his book,how did he know it,Bukhari and so forth,so you see this the link we follow as Muslims Naden,not just 'pure rubish' as you illogically claimed. You may know,but learning always starts with asking questions. thanks,

^You guys don't get it,the point it's not that women are driving cars,it's actually the number of women drivers INCREASING,it's two different things. Somali women have always driven cars..sure,but never were there this many women driving cars filling the streets of Hargeysa,get it? Besides,speak of the present,what happened in the past evoprated with the civil wars,it's new begining and women are once again in the driver seat.

^kkkkkk,I couldnt' put it any better,qof indhaha iska ridaya sidii loola reason garaynkaraa?