Okay wlc first of all. Correction,the ICU did indeed get it all together,it's just unfortunate that the Xabashis didn't want the right people to be ruling the people.Hey I am not the one who said Xamar was at its best and had the look of stable city when the ICU was in control(it's fact as it was just that),today,you can say it's back to the dark days of warlords as every warlord has return,but this time with Ethiopia in the mix as well. This TFG is peice of chunk for the warlords by the warlords,no other way to sugar coat it.Try as you wish,but fact of matter remains that it's a door knob as nomad Castro puts it for all sorts of problems.

^excellent points Miskiin.Dadkan kale way iska daac daacayaan iyagoon taariikh aan duruusayn.Waar taariikhta soo barta,kadib nacnacleeyey aw dhagaarinyey. At least Carabs are Muslims(majority)so are we,but Xabashis,yuck!

At least the dude has no record of killing,raping,looting anyone.He lied,that is minor considering what the whole chunk of TFg is based on.He can at least write his name in recursive,unlike Oday.lol

Bambo,you are too soft buddy,how quick for you to fall in love with falsehood,I am amazed.You can't let falsehood win,buddy,as the somali saying goes,hal xaaran ah,nirig xalaal madhasho.What if" isn't the point of discussion here,we know what the TFG is made of,thus it has zero chances of succeeding.You must not forget the fact that Xabashis are roaming the streets of Xamar,how can you let this not bother you,never ever forget that. Duke,as we speak,you are romanticing the occupation of Ethiopians of your capital,don't you see this,well I gues not,because you are desperately trying to draw attention from this shameful period which your uncle and Geedi is to be blamed for,nice try but hey I am not one that will let you off the hook. Faysal Cali waraabe made those low remarks,however none is lower than the fact that your uncle had the guts to be a doorknob for Ethiopians to come to his country physically and kill other Somalis,even bombarded the capital of Xamar,isn't that lower than anything in the history of Somalis,what a shame,once again sorry to not fall for your foolishness and desperate attempts to draw the attention from hall of shamers,the problem is in your backyard,focus on it.As for Somaliland,it's been fine an shining star in the horn of Africa,it will remain so,Insha allah with better leader like Sh.Shariif Axmed,Somaliland can reach its potential. Was Igal not "alleged" to have written a paper to the Jews,looool.goodness are you serious,you must be out of your daba dhilif mind to say that,even the a year old knows that was not authentic,oh how desperate are you getting here,waar dhuusada naga aad yar,waamaxay looxani. Just this week Aideed jr. called for unification of Ethiopia and Somalia,Barre Hiiraale said they would use even the help of the Jews to fight their own Somalis all these are peice of the political chunk of the TFG.lol dont' you see all these mr.denial?

Originally posted by HornAfrique: I believe this an excellent leap for the TFG. As soon as they can fill the power vacuum and establish some sort of system, the faster every aspect of the capital can come under their control including the confidence of the people. Masidan baa kuu danbaysay,waar ileen qabiil meel xun buu dadka katuuraa.Waxaa layidhi somali naarta waxay ku galayaan waa qabiil,tusaale ahaan.

Goodness they have their filthy hands on the Quran,idin qabay.Liers and their lying hands.

Khalaf,good eye bro..it's amazing that Muslims have taken western Propoganda to the heart.True slaves of wrongful idealogy are they not? Back to the topic: Mr.duke (daba dhilif) let me add little bit more to what has nicely been highlighted by our good mr.Thinker. 1.Somali "government" which is recognised and controls the whole "country"? Where do you have a government that has control of the country? which country? if we assume that this political chunk of the TFG was somali "government" then wouldnt' that include Somaliland,or have you personally recognised SL as different entity? you are contradicting yourself,confused and has lost touch with common sense. 2.United "South" with Muqdisho etc... under one admin. Once again,the only chance of that happening was when the ICU was in control which brought Kismayo and Muqdisho under one entity.Peace and tranquilty was prevailing then,but that didn't last after the naked aggression of the Ethiopians,which you support dearly.So I am wondering,how do you even dare to speak against SL when the "south" you speak of doesn't unite nor will unite under your Tigray driven political chunk of TFG,not much chance of it ever evolving into legitamate government.Which means,that SL will remain a state looking for recognition from the international community as they have in the past whether the South had peace or was in turmoil.Somaliland has been here for the last fifteen years,remained there, and will be.so what news do you have for us mr.dabo dhilif? 3. Losing their Status as Muqdisho becomes even more stable: Another point,which arogantly doesn't even come in contact with reality.Your predictions are based on "ifs",but Muqdisho was stable city under the ICU so was the whole south,you were the one who was afraid of losing any status which you may have had.I was in support of stable Muqdisho(I as Hargeysawi),you weren't,you refered the good folks of the ICU that replaced hope in the hearts of the ordinary civilians as thugs,very short time ago wasn't it.So my question,on behalf of whom are you speaking of? the southerners,sorry you will not be able to fool anyone as you desperately try to cover up the mess looming in Southern somalia,deal with that,SL is there for me to deal.Whether SL isn't doing well or not,one thing is for sure,it's that it strongly relies on its diapora,we have delivered in the last 15 years and surpassed anyone,no sign of that stoping,brainpower and willful citizens is the way to go these days,serving the interests of other countries isn't going to get you anywhere as you assume it would,it will simply backfire on the political chunk of the TFG which you cheer for most of the time,get a dose of reality buddy. Furthermore,read carefully the message which is superbly scripted by Lander,Suldaanka,Somalithinker,and others here. However,before I depart let me get back to the redicolous point which you have blindly made, which you stated that SL doesn't any army WHATSOEVER,that point should clear indication of the state of mind you are in,denial mode,as arogant as that point was also highlights the possbility that everything else you scripted of having any truth to it. Mr.the Point,you sound like a man who has done his homework,but can you show me,the government which you speak,it's all "Ifs".I would have agreed with your point,but which government is there that counters the success of Somaliland.Somaliland's capital is Hargeysa,if the TFG claims its capital to be Xamar,then gues what,the possibility of Xamar citizens accepting such piece of chunk to rule over them is not happenning,you can sugar coat it as much as you want guys,but it aint happening,people got taste of the goodness of the ICU,they want them back..now.

^Ooh goodness,what is there to refute? tell me,tell us exactly,will give you an ear full? It's all well too known that SL hasn't been recognised to this day,however you are dreaming if you think SL will cooperate with the chunky TFG. So let me ask you a question which I asked you before you didn't get the new ball(xabashi tanks),what will you think the TFG will do,if SL simply says shuff it to 'em,what will you do? If you hate SL,gues what,we dont' care,you are giving yourself too much credit old man nor will two Xabashi tanks be able to help accomplish your dream,you have to accomplish your own dream,be a man. as for Hargeysa,it stood the worst of times,it will stand as always...

Caamir, Our brothers in the north? that could have been your kinsmen,could it not be,where are you from son? lol..what a morons. As to Duke, My dear daba dhilif,the two tanks of the Xabashis have given you new life.When will you be real man and fight your own fights.As you know Xabashis will not always be on your side,so don't create another enemy,gacmahaad ka guban. As you know,the Xabashis have as much relations with A/Dullahi Yusuf as they have with Riyale Kahin,therefore if it came down to a fight between the two(which Ethiopia wants),then gues what,you will have to deal with Somaliland alone without the Xabashis,and you darn well know that you will be rattled. However,the so called TFG can't even sort its differences out,it's a chunk piece of garbage,which every man(warlord) will have his own say the way he feels like it.NO one can tell them to not say such,because remember they got guns. So before talk the big talk,you need to have the ability which you can reiforce your thoughts,two Xabashi tanks will not be helpful to you.And how cowardly is it to claim that you have a pawn when only two days ago you were considered endengered specie,I am amazed. This is simply a desperate attempt from the lost lot in here to try to get the attention from the disgraceful lot which he supports much.Daba dhilif Duke' doesn't realize that with Somaliland aside,the South itself even united the least bit and thus are mostly United against the naked aggression coming from Ethiopia which he also justifies.So dabo duke,before you utter anything or say anything baise about others,it would be to focus on the problems which the the chunk (TFG) has created in Southern Somalia..that should be your worries,don't sugar coated.You should have just stuck with Puntland,at least it was functioning state,but o boy are you ever in a mess of being xabashi daba dhilif.I am sorry,we can't do anything for you,you may critise somaliland as much as you want,but hey look ka dabaalo adaa isku galay eh. Miskiin waaxid.

^lol..goodness you are learning too fast dear,slow down adigu bal wax yar. However,I am proud of you,Ilaahay garabkaaga ha galo. shimbir baa soo kidifaa kidaafi tiri, shaahu kululaa oo kadanaa ayey tiri, markaa say sii kidiifaa kidifaa tiri hadana.

^at least Somaliland has recognition of the people it governs,can the TFG claim the same? A reason why that will never happen(to get people's trust),is draging Ethiopia to kill other Somalis,this puts the TFG and its supporters in what I call the hall of shame.They have no crediblity,any they might have had to begin with was stepped on as the Xabashis bombarded Muqdisho and other Somali cities. You can cry crocodile tears or cry more than thunder cloud could rain down,the fact of the matter will remain that this Ethiopian driven so called government has zero chances of even sorting its differences out.As the somali saying goes "hal xaaran ah,nirig xalaal ah madhasho",I gues you don't speak somali..can we have an Xabashi translator to explain the meaning of the somali proverb that is coming out of my mouth.lol I as Red Sea always likes to seek facts hard facts that is,so can you tell me how a man who said Ethiopia and Somalia should have the same passport and military and everything isn't worst than any of the SL leaders you mentioned...go ahead tell me how you came up with that.

^hypocrites? hmm.Oh yeah Geedi did say contradict that he had no problem if Somaliland was recognised today,few days ago he sounded like a confident man saying he would close all the territories...lol,perhaps the two Ethiopia tanks provide him the balls he needed,what a moron. Admit it son,this thing you claimed to being a government is just big failure,which operates under the orders springing from Addis,don't be so shocked if more like this come about,it's actually what is made of,mr.Caydiid Jr. siad it like it is. Keep quite? lol,listen xabashi,did you not know that you are non existant in my sight,another words insignificant,nothing,notta,piece of shid.

^okay she speaks Jamaican,what language was that you just scripted above saaxib,adiga laftaadan dab yar shidayn.kk

Darn those are old T54s or T77,if only we had few M1abrahms,we could have lit the day light out of them. But our spirit will not be crushed,the fight to take back our homeland is still in works,we will fight back until every one of the wrong doers as well as aggressors is gotten rid of..Insha Allahu Tacalaa.

Maskiin is General Duke who talked outside of his pants.As I can sense mr.Duke still has some somali blood with him,therefore it comes very suprsing to him and few others of the new change.Well,mr.Duke,it's okay,get back to bed and in case you forgot how things should role from this point on,then listen to Caydiid jr.

I bet if Geedi or A/Yusuf said such,you would have spin around and find a way to sugar coat it.Deal with it,the seed planted by EThiopia is already blooming.

Peacenow, a chosen somali ambasaddor? for who,somalis? please,don't disrespect us like that.

^ wallee waxaan islahaa,Af somali ku xamo(gossip).But now I think I have lost the only advantage that I had on ya. Teaching yourself eh,impressive once again. okay tell the meaning of these medoforic words. Cagta cagta laguu gali? cagaha wax ka day? go ahead take your best shot at them.

Duke,you believe in Somaliwayne( I know he is a door knob,but what the heck let me just get this one off),then how do you "brother" think that the daba dhilif Gov.will bring the land occupied by EThiopia,the mastes helpers,no force involved offcourse right?

Captain **********, what is the matter,I didn't think you have feelings mr. **********. Lander,simple,the U.S is trying to get all the helpers they need especially in time when they seem to be weakened by the many military conflicts they are in especially in Iraq.I guaranteed you,they would have sent it troops to Somalia if this was few years back before they invaded Iraq,their capablities have deminished,their military might over stretched. Ethiopia is given all the help they need to accomplish their goal as well as score one for badly needed by the injured U.S policy towards Islamic nations around the world,or simply the "fight against terrorism". [ January 03, 2007, 03:42 AM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

^Waa laguu yaqaan.

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^I know your government is the one led by President Bush, oh maye you are a lieral as you reside in the East coast. The Somali people are enjoying the return of their government to power. Remmeber the detractors used to ask, when will the TFG move to Mogadishu? It has now. No..the question is when will we get this Xabashi classes going and start ripping our Somali identity.Mr.door knob,how is your Amharic coming?

His clan support the TFG,clan this clan that.So when politically corrupt individual joins hall shamers,does that make his clan join the dulmi too.You are in error to think this and is very offensive to somali pats out there belonging to whatever his clan is thus appose the illegal occupation and naked aggression of EThiopia which he collabrated with. Funny thing is that,with Ethiopia's tanks,Daba dhilif Duke is all talking tough,even raised his voice on Somaliland which he "respected" so much before,refering to it as peaceful state which will not be touched by no one,I wonder what he will say about it this time. Hub iyo raganimo yeelo,markaa hanjab.

Originally posted by AAliyah416: lol once we are all back home, we gonan have one hell ofa problem given that many don't speak somali. So how about we open ssl classes Somali second language...that way everyone will be able to speak somali Wa salaamu alaikum Danaanish anjii,indhee minaalash...if you don't know what I just said,well shame on you Aaliyah.Get use to it,this is your new language now. "Somalis"? what is that,aniga waa habashi waryaa aniga waan ahay antee

^ I fully agree.These people have their own corrupt political interests whom some have fallen for.The set back that the ICU has suffered has misled some to believe that Everything will just be o right after the ouster of our shining star,the ICU.As you superbly painted in the last paragraph,we must all expect a unity in the hearts and souls of the ordinary somalis everwhere after witnessing the humilation and naked aggression of Tigray regime in Addis into somali territory,especially our landmark city of Xamar.The hall of shamers will regret this in many days to come,and the ICU with more support from the somali than ever before will make a comeback insha Allah tacalaa and yes indeed strike deep and hard.Some may think this isn't impossible,but who dares to question the Xaq ku dirir,the blood of the ordinary has risen.Impossible is for dulmi to privail over Xaq. Stay tuned Insha Allahu Tacalaa,this could be a turning point in somali history as we have already seen an ugly header of it,good will follow,as Allah said "inamacal cusri Yusraa" ease will follow difficulty.