Nacdal baa kugu taal. I have never in my life seen such confident looking Xabashi, they have given these cocroaches a self confidence to be in the heart of Somalia without a fear.

^Oh here we go again, another one of those dudes claiming to be from Hargeysa! lol Somaliland= land of aliens mayee. lol

^ This guy has been getting excited, because to him it seems like his uncle has finally managed to sit properly on the 'throne'. If you are not wanted and are foreign product, then gues what sooner or later you will be outsted, that is where this TFG is destined. Foreign troops are now safe guarding it, but they won't always be around, the day they leave, watch out.

No saaxib, you don't really have to. I mean, hadal haamo lagama buuxsho. Waxba waqtiga ha iska qaadin.

Don't you think we are forgetting something here? Somalilnaders' aren't U.S citizens you know. If the U.S says so, Bush and his foreign Affair may go climb a skinny pole. That doesn't concern the Somalilanders. The ball and game both lie on the palm of our hands, we may twist it and turn it how we want to when we want to. What will the U.S do if the Somalilanders say no to such move, will they invade? lool the Econman, don't twist things, Somalilanders aren't foreingers, they are Somalis who have chosen to go their own seperate ways, you may call yourself a foreigner if you go to hargeysa or just a fellow somalis from neighboring country of Somalia, it's your choice, but hey Somaliland is here to stay. I think I had mentioned in another thread, that you and other here have no say in it as long as you are not a Somalilander. lol

The Duke, There is difference between taking part in creating something and inspiring it. The SSDF inspired all the soup of letters that followed including the SNM and the USC, however the SNM took huge role in creating the USC. Tuur and Silaanyo went to India to get Aydiid as I heard to lead the newly formed USC. They took big part in setting up the USC, arming it, financing it for the first few years. Even when the Barre forces tried to make second attempt to capture villa Somalia, it was Tuur who delivered ammunitions to the USC. I am not saying or justfying all these doings as though they were good, but that is little back ground history 101. All in all, we know who fought Barre forces the most, who suffered the most, and who for the most part took the largest burden of the wars against Barre, they were non other than the SNM. Elysian You must be kidding me to even hinched slight bit. Somalilanders have one thing in common, to defend and to lay their lives on the line in order to secure the peacefullness, tranquilty, soveirnty of Somaliland, is there any doubt about that. When you have large population wiht such iron determination and bravery, I don't think any can do a peev, history teaches us that Somalilanders have the will and capablity to overcome almost anything thrown their way. What does that mean, no worries.

Abyan, Point taken in one acount, the point you made about not blaming ordinary Planders such as yourself for the failures and the crimnolity commited by the TFG is hereby well taken. The Dhahar, Adhi cadeeye incidents were minor and they happen once in a blue moon. Though every human life is precious, still no civilians died in either scuffles as far as that is concern. They are nothing but minor scuffles. Most of your other writings, you have came out with way off the mark comments, I'll let you figure them out, however I shall not blame all Puntlanders for the sake of one man perhaps or few men such A/Yusuf, that point is excepted once again. Duke..lol gabadha ha igu dirin. Khalaf, the shiekh in love, oopz, you thought too loud aww. We do love abyan no doubt. lol

North, Masha Allah dhulkii roobab ayaa ka da'aya. How is the weather Jacaylbaro in Hargeysa today? by the way, we should install Zu battery or some artillery air defense around Naaso Hablood mountains, so we can lit the sky in case another anudentified flying object doesn't answer the call of the airport tower. It would be like, 'you didn't answer my call, gues what? you got a wake up call' .lol

SNM= a movment which its time has expired. After the expiration of the SNM movment, a new product came to troubled market called Somaliland. Disarmed, dismantled by Ina Igal and mostly have retired to their homes. ICU= Islamic movment and not USC. USC= freedom fighting movement previously, later trasfomred into brutal revenge squadron. However UIC= God sent 'angles' with wings. They have nothing to do withe the USC. Because Yalaxow, Qanyare, col. Qaybdiid, Caato were the USC and warlods, as you know the UCI was against those men and kicked them of Xamar. SSDF= just like USC freedom fighting movment. However was ineffective and never really did much to change the dynamics on the ground. However Pland= a peaceful state created after the collapsed of Somalia. Agreed upon by reer hebel tribes in the East. however it cannot be said, it's SSDF 2.0.

^ Tanag you awow, laakin what 'two giants' ha isoo garab istaagin meesha waxba kuma haysid eh. Intii yaraydna Abdullahi Yusuf ayaa xamar uqaatay. lool Aj Timacedeh took care of bussiness, why did they banned him though. He was good brother. lol@ BN oo ooyey. lool

Originally posted by Kashafa: Food for thought: Close to 500(maybe more) 'secessionist' thoroughbreds from Burco participated in the battles against the Xabash and their handmaidens on the grounds of Idaale and Diinsoor. They weren't bleeding for you, my friend. Nor were they bleeding for your version of 'Somalinimo'. I'll let you figure out what they were fighting and dying for. Let me give you one hint: They are more Somali and more Muslim than you and every single person who supports/ed Siad Barre as well as every single dhabo-dhilif who bleats seccionist on one hand and kills his own people with his own...oops, shiyeeet, almost said: his own hands, almost forgot that we're dealing with low-life cowards here... correction: and kills his own people with foreign hands. I-R-O-N-Y M-U-C-H. The 'Seccionist' is a Somali Shaheed(inshallah) and the 'Somalinimo''Dawladnimo' broken records are Xabash-luvin' munaafiqs. Somalinimo-on-steroids-ow xaal qaado. I am not Burcawi myself, but a good brother like Northerner might relate to that more than I have. Did I mentioned he was accused of not being sincere with his thoughts, food for thought. Wisdom Seeker, Those are good points. But mr. Kashafa is time and again trying to make us understand reality, priorities and we have to do first and act upon them. Mr. me throws accusation around more against Somaliland than he does against EThiopian invading forces. Kashafa earns an applause and two thumbs way up for the effort. Somalinimo on steriods. Baashi Saaxib,what exactly are you trying to say? I sense that you are making excuses for the TFG or saying that the UIC wasn't a noble movement. Offcourse they weren't perfect, but they were the best chance of Somalia ever coming back on its feet.

^lol...ma ogi. Laakin, anigu kaba hadhayba, make it what you want it to be. The field is yours, play in it however you like. Subax wanagsan.

'Afkuna wuu dheeryey, irbad dhuub magaliyaane'. With these talks you guys have just managed to free somali galbeed and have succeeded in creating Africanwayne, NOT. Have you ever heard of step by step up the ladder. Or simple mathmatical figures which go in order. 1 2 3 4 5......and so on........ Well, succed doing the first things first. If you are using the logic of 'shoot for the stars, if you miss, you will hit the moon' then you are misleading yourself dadow.

Those are not completed yet, and those pics are outdated pics of whitesand village and the white building was built for some clinic care not housing. But still I haven't heard any news about any updates and what stage the project is at? I will go there myself Insha Allah, ama jacalbaro hada war nala soo gaadh.

Originally posted by Violet: Hold up, I didn't say Hargaysa was any less developed than Bosaso, I said the amount of development that has occurred in Bosaso post-91 is more than that of Hargaysas. Compare Bosaso pre-91 to Bosaso post-91 and then make the same comparison for Hargaysa and you'll see what I'm talking about. Bosaso pre-91 was nothing more than a small town. Hargaysa pre-91 was the second capital of Somalia..See where I'm going with this? Yes, Hargeysa has always been bigger than Bosaaso and yes you are right it was the second capital of Somalia. That is just stating the obvious awow. However, in your other point of development. Bosaaso went from a small town to large city. It was untouched by the civil wars with perhaps an exception of few street to street battles between Al Atixad militias and SSDF militias. All that Bosaaso had to do was to develop that is all. Whereas in Hargeysa, it went from total 'little Hiroshima' to today's perhaps most develop city in the former Somali republic. In the year 1991, there was NO Hargeysa, the name was still there, but almost every house room to room were erased to the ground, so by far and more than any town Hargeysa had not only recovered from that destruction, but has developed and became what it's today, all praise due to Allah. Che and Xanthus Fine. Let those creatures make fool of themselves. Let them have it. That is it. I am out, no more for me. Just too much danbi going on here. nabadey.

Xanthus, The difference between the TFG and Somaliand is huge. It requires a mind clean of hatred and anomisty to figure that out. What has Somaliland done to Somalis? The TFG is the reason for the middle man (Ethiopia) that have killed thousands of Somalis, and possibly have created possible humanitrian crisis in which over 130,000 people have fled their homes. Their homes destroyed, teenage girls and moms alike being raped by the Xabashis. They are also the reason for the darkest print on the Somali history book, of Ethiopian flag flying over the Somalia' capital. Where does Somaliland stand to measure up against all that. They are way over there, building schools, hospitals, constructing roads, offcourse they do also have their numerous short comings but to compare them to the TFG just proves my point of mr. me being nothing but a HATER. The funny thing is he later goes on and says why am I being called a hater, you knwo now mr. me.

Abyan, New dirac? I like it. To sum up my point awow ( I just discovered that terms, it doesn't mean I am older, but I, just like it). The SNM was liquidated as soon as it took control of Somaliland. They could have continue and carried on onslaught against neighboring regions like Sool, Sanaag, and perhaps even over to Bari and Nugaal if they wanted to, and today you would be looking at the same situations in the South. For your infor Pland wasn't created until 1998, exactly 7 years AFTER Somaliland admin was established in 1991. Somaliland had regional power and regional power was in the hands of Somaliland, right now you could say it balanced out a bit. However Somaliland could have started wars with neighboring states or can still, however Somaliland hasnt' done that. The reason I said Pland produced Abdullahi Yusuf is because, Abdullahi Yusuf went from Puntland' leader to trouble maker in the South today. You might say he is legit President and all that, but hey being legit President doesn't give one the right to do what he has done. I am sorry, to touch on these key issues, but that is the truth. Today in Somaliland no one dies for no appararent reason, meaning in meaningless wars, except by natural causes. In Puntland, majority of the TFG militia are the kids and fadhi ku dirir from the streets of Gorowe and Galkacayo, they have died in scores as they fought ALONG SIDE the EThiopians. That is shame.

mr. me, no, no and no. You are not wrong to have your OWN opinion, this is the civilized world after all. However you are wrong, when you distort facts such as that Hargeysa+ Burco populations= only 75,000. You are wrong when you state that Siyad Barre bombarded the cities of Hargeysa/Burco in 'DEFENSE' of his country. You are wrong when you accuse of others of lying, yet can't prove it and later scramble for an apology. You are wrong of believing your own blatant lies such as that you can't live in Hargeysa today simply because Siyad Barre isn't in charge anymore or perhaps you might be from different tribe. Those above are the terms which I critise you and are which we refer you as a man who doesn't know what he is talking about. And quiet honestly when you state such things, you prove us all right. In addition, again let me repeat to you and mr. Baashir offcourse, no one is ever wrong of stating their opinion, however distorting the facts perhaps with intent to score a point is definately wrong, that is what you are doing and that is what you have done. Xiinfaniin is against the case of Somaliland, yet no one finds his statements to be 'wrong', have you asked what might be wrong with yours? That is because he says what he knows and doesn't state what he knows not, you on the other hand facilitate your mouth without a cooperation from your brains awow, now that is redicolous. Finally, unlike yourself or many others, something I am not know to do is to resurface things when one changes their mind about, what am I refering to here? Well, I am refering to your Siyad Barre statement of him NOT being dictator, which you changed later on...it's good to realize your mistakes one in a while. ****YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO OPEN DISCUSSION, AND IT'S YOUR PERSONAL FREEDOM TO HAVE DIFFERENT VIEW AND OUTLOOK TO ALL ASPECTS AS YOU WISH SIR, HOWEVER LIES AREN'T ONE OF THEM***.

Castro, History is irrelevant to us at the moment, well at least it's not that important to me. Specially taking the wants of the people of TODAY. Regardless of who came up with the idea be it a creature with four legs or otherwise, one thing is clear, alot of people support it. It's working mate. lol As for Zayyid, Again, waa iska hadashay. Never never is not a way to make a point adeer. learn how to make your points come across in more reasonable way. You sound so confident with your 'never never' statements. But one thing you should know, you are insignifcant as far what Somalianders want to do. They have already made the call for seccession, only they can return to union if they desire. So keep entertaining yourself with your thoughts which are out of touch with the reality, fantasy. P.S, Somaliland is helf ransom at the moment until Somalia gets real government in place, only then can the two parties talk, but for now, Somaliland is put on hold by the international community. Did you not know that? it's not a false thougth that I came up with, it's how the international laws and regulations put it.

Flag is nothing but a piece of cloth, the people of which it stands elevate it to more than a peice of cloth, however the blue flag has been let down by folks like Afweyne and ina Yey and more and more of the thugs and criminals that all claim the blue flag. So in the sense, the blue flag of today is nothing but pieice of cloth.

Originally posted by Nayruus: So are you agreeing to the fact that Burcao is not partying with you guys? And the fact the blue flag of Somali Republic and Yey's picture are hanging on the walls of many living spaces in Burao and areas surrounding to it? Do you support ina Yey or do you consider him as the President of Somalia? I thought you opposed the TFG! Proof proof, any report emphasizing yey' pics being hang anywhere in Burco, could prove that to me sir? Zenobia Somaliland's parties not only suck but also they blow big time. And King Khalid, he is no talent at all. Waa wajiyo xun. Thanks,

lol@ thing called Somaliland. Why stress the time or the energy on that 'thing' then. Read my lipse, Hargeysa or even xaafad Hargeysa ka mid ha ahaato, its non of YOUR BUSSINESS. Get a job, or go farm the farms down in Sool, your time is need there. However, the author does make some valid points. And some are just pure exaggerations.

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: Fuley waaxid ,,,,,,, Pimp listen. , ha igu dirin inanta aan adeerka u ahay.

^Hey I said I am old, but not That old. All I can remember though is that television sets were still black and white. lol

^ Looks like someone has his priority right finally. Hecsilant. oodu sida ay ukala korayso ayaa loo kala guraa, soomaha? Lake I don't see it happening, nor would we attempt to, well at least under the current circumstances, as the brother said, extreme steps need to be taken, how to get rid of the current TFG is one of them. Secndly, those folks in Somali galbeed need to handle their own business, since offcourse they named the whole area under one tribe, then you are on your own peeps. There are many things for me to worry about in Somaliland. Such as making sure folks get better education, better health facilities and care. And all around good system of government which Insha Allah I hope follows the Islamic guidlines. First things first.