The Dukow, Ala inanku hadal badanaa That pic is pretty funny, good one indeed. Let me just highlight that new love which out of nowhere suddenly occured between Hargeysawis like I and some Xamarawis. Indeed Xamar was dirty place during the civil wars, made dirty by the warlords like col. Qaybdiid, Mohamed dheere, Yalaxow, Qanyare. Do these men ring a bell, well some of them are now in the TFG 'leadership'. To further explain that love, the reason I felt in love with Xamar all of sudden was due to because the UIC cleaned the rubbish which was those mentioned warlords, and the city of Xamar was kisseable again. Now it isn't, it's back to being dirty, because warlords such as the new 'mayor' of Xamar Mohamed Dheere are back. :confused: PS, I think before that reaches Boroma, the blue flag will have a new look.

^You forgot about the people of Xamar, do they want occupation. According to you mr. The Duke the Ethiopians are allies of mr. adeero ina Yey, however have you asked what the poeple of the capital think of these 'allies'? . If they paint them any less than occupiers, thugs, criminals, murderders, rapers, etc...if that isn't their output, then kabtayda wax iigu rid. On January of this year, Geedi said that he was the legit prime minister of whole of Somalia including Somaliland, the reaction from Somalilanders was well noted, however let me take Boorama, Awdal as an example, I feel it concerns the topic which we are discussing. Here is Boroma, Awdal in that show off. ooooh boy. :eek:

All hail to the new mayor of Muqdisho, ladies and gents say hello to mr. Mohamed dheere formerly a thug, warlord. He will be serving you now as your respectable mayor. *applause*.

MMA okay walalo, advice taken. Aamin to the ducaa. I hope Insha Allah in dad Somalida ah Ilahay isagaa og wixii ufiican in uu jidka fiican tuso, wixii dhibta wadana ka dhex qabto. Nayruus, ** no comment.

Waaryee Alamganow, waar isku xishood oo lafahaaga wax ula hadh, macawistu kaa dhacdaye, waamaxay bahalkani. Oday xun oo ay ka dhamaatay oo af ku huurale ah ayuunbaad xayaysiinaysaa. Muxuu taray, adiga muxuu kuu taray?

JC and Emperor. The Duke, No it can mean only one thing, that these guys need to get the fudge out. However, if they had said that the agenda or policy of the TFG needed to change that would mean, the leadership could stay, however the way the do things needs to change. In this case, they are clearly refering to the men at the helm, I mean below Melez.

How come no one replied? hmmm.. SYL did a great job, may Allah bless their soul.

^So, they are....so they say, but is it happening. The buubaa company iga dheh. 'We are not working for you'...the "Buubaa company, proudly serving our belies" .lol

To mr. Sayyid, aaah I have response for you....aaah WHAT? The Duke, That is the most redicolous thing I have ever heard. One thing you should know though. Somaliland has a mission to accomplish, no one can stand in the way of what the people want. The TFG can coward behind Xabashi tanks for second time, however one thing is clear, the world is watching this time. There would be no excuse that 'terrorism or neo Islamists' are in the area. Secondly, the people of Somaliland are willing to fight and fire in one direction. they have stood through test of time, one bothered, these people know how to handle bussiness. Ethiopia would be making stup1d mistake if they attempted to try to role their tanks into Somaliland territory, because Somalis in Southern Somalia and those living in Somaliland as well as Somali galbeed will actually UNITE and Ethiopia will be make to realize their mistake. BTW...if you are Somaliwayne believer, it doesnt make sense to consider Ethiopia as an ally, simply because EThiopia doesn't want to give back Somali galbeed, a big piece of Somaliwayne.

Originally posted by Nayruus Man, if you happen to be reading it here on SOL, I suggest to you to do it in the right way. The international community headed by the western democracies will not accept the result of the mythology you propose to dismember the Somalia Republic. If you are confident that you have the support of the majority of the Somalis in the former British Somaliland Protectorate, why don’t you do the referendum in the right and legitimate way? Please do not slaughter the ram in dark places. Bring it to the daylight to make the killing licit (Xalaal). Steps to reach your goal: 1. Disband the Hargeisa regime by disarming the SNM gangs to let the Somali Republic rule her territories fully without armed opposition. 2. Participate in the Somali National Reconciliation Process being planned by the FTG and supported morally and financial by the world communities. 3. Participate in the parliamentary elections in 2007 and make sure all the PMs from north are die hard secessionists like you. During the election campaign there should be no intimidation and harassment. 4. Your PMs must forward a motion seeking the secession of the former British SomaliLand Protectorate from the Somali Republic. 5. The conditions of referendum and separation have to be discussed. 6. After the approval of your motion by the Somali people, the campaign for “No” and “Yes” camps has to take place in the most peaceful and democratic manner. 7. Now invite the representative of the international news media plus Mr. Carter and the world human organizations for supervision and oversight. 8. You win, we accept. You lose, you work hard to become Somali nationalist because it is the only way your race can survive in this evergetting crowded world…. ------------------------------------------------ Point 1: The SNM militia have already been disarmed, liquidated and mostly have either died, those survived are divided into two: Some who were highly educated such as Silaanyo Eng. Xaashi who are now in the somaliland politics, and some who were simply foot soldiers, these are now civilians. So there you have it, they are disarmed and SNM doesn't exist anymore. Morever, who will rule if the Hargeysa based government is disband? the TFG....that is redicolous and you know it. Once again, you have changed your position, from pro TFG to pro UIC back to pro TFG, where do you stand? 2. NO somaliland will not participitate any reconciliations, simply because somaliland had already done it in 1991 in Burco conference, that mission has been accomplished. 3. Parliament elections? if its anything involving the TFG, then you must be joking?! From point 4th to your 7th point are very reasonable and thus it's only fair. On your 8th point, you have not yet provided anything that is cheweable to us, because simply you are saying the TFG (which I recognise as nothing but cold blooded entity or perhaps thug movement). We will not except nor even allow such to take place under such corrupt, illegitimate, unmotivated pieice of trash to even discuss with Somaliland and their future, Somalia deserves a better government. You give an entity like the UIC, we would strike a deal right here and there. As for the article, I don't really where to begin of what mr. Abdulraxman wrote, because he jumped from one point to another. He painted the crimes commited by the TFG/Xabashi helpers, yet he doesn't have any alternatives of how to inpure the TFG, but rather is seeking how Somaliland would join such filthy, kill your own people kinda thug group. Sorry mr. Author, but your head is in the sand.

Actually mr. Duke, I think you have observed enough to know, that more than anything things will come down to the people's call. So whether or not mr. Ducaale or any other Somaliland politicians make deals behind close doors, one thing is certain, they will join the Buubaa group. It's the people's call, though mr. Ducaale said none of it is true. Secondly, the reason perhaps the TFG and Somaliland officials met is because Ethiopia has huge influence in both areas. One in particular they have involved themselves militarily. Is there any doubt about that mr. Dukow?

Originally posted by TheSomaliEconomist: Soon, there will be an interstate road to Hargeisa from Mogadishu lol. Next Stop H-town! I hope so, but rather than interstate, it would be inter country road, linking different side by side brotherly nations. However Muqdisho is still under occupation. The Ethiopians and their stooges have to be gotten rid of first. lol@ admit to simple fact. when will you people admit that the TFG isn't going anywhere, and the people of Muqdisho nor most of Southern Somalia don't want to have anything to do with it. The area you mentioned are under Ethiopian occupation or what you considered TFG control, only we would see them get out of their 'control' the day those occupiers leave teh country. As for Somaliland, the people are behind it and are in support of it, unlike the TFG which brought foreign armies to massacre and capture cities for them...that is not controling nor is that a government, but rather cold blooded murder squad. No comparison here. Things may look good on paper, however the reality on the ground is totally a disaster. Even the U.S which use to support this foreign project said it's time to for new leadership. This is ship is sinking if you would admit to that.

^kkkk, hadii uugeelu wada taakhona ama adhigu? Emperor, okay, shall we also say that people in Muqdisho should vote on the legitimacy of the TFG? 'fad ama ha fadin, waa lagu fadsiin' by Emperor. lool

^kkkk, hadii uugeelu wada taakhona ama adhigu? Emperor, okay, shall we also say that people in Muqdisho should vote on the legitimacy of the TFG? 'fad ama ha fadin, waa lagu fadsiin' by Emperor. lool

I agree with Cara and Castro. mr. me, lol...so somaliland wants to seceed so they could opress other qabiils? only mr. me would believe that, only mr. me. P, that is from personal judgement, you would be right, if we were to speak for each qabiil. however Somaliland isn't just saying we should take referendum based on each clan' choices, but by region. the referendum would be 1 ballot, just like normal voting standards, which would be taken from each areas, state, region etc..which is refered as Somaliland, in that case some would be against and some for it, however at the end the majority of the votes would be counted. That is just how it's, aside from our persoanl judgments. That is how the world would look at it. You can say that is unfair or unjust, yes it's injustice when having people' wishes denied however the world thinks very differently to say the least. They use something called the will of the majority. And for the case of Somaliland to be valid, the rest of Somalia would need to vote upon it, however we dont' have somalia, therefore we shouldn't be discussing anything else, since our brotherens in the South are being killed, raped and occupied. Yes I do agree this is the wrong time.

^ehem it was a cat fight lool...what kinda a man wouldn't like to see cat fight going on, the admin must be old...lol...oopz. Che, is that according to you or according to the world, the UN standards?

Originally posted by Dabshid: Dissatisfaction at the distribution of power among the clanfamilies and between the two regions boiled over in December 1961, when a group of British-trained junior army officers in the north rebelled in reaction to the posting of higher ranking southern officers (who had been trained by the Italians for police duties) to command their units. This should explain why you hardly see a man from the 'north' who goes beyond colonel, a general is rare, while most of southerns even men trained for police duties are given the title of 'general' while actual trained military officers were rank below them, that is some injustice right there, it should explain what went wrong from the getgo.

Caamir, That is not sufficient enough to proof anything nor does it match the numerous history which was written, if there was any truth to that, we would have heard about it. I am suprised you are conviced by such small paragraph. Alamaganow, adiga 'nimaku' sidan iyo sidaas ayaa kaasoo hadhay. Kolay, taariikh waa wax dhacay sida ay udhacdayna waa lahayaa, wayna caday. Qoraal yar oo ka duwan sida taariikhdu udhacday waxba ma tari karo. As matter of fact, and as truth is and as occured is out there, we all know it, one needs to look at it in unbiased way to understand it.

Xataa cadaankii laga yaabo somalia arag waligii ayaa xataa arka that something aint right.

Abti, I too could see the two sisters had a bit of heated discussion against one another, I hoped that would end because Abyan decided to not support the TFG for personal choices. They could have been warned perhaps to end their hostilities, however banning them is something I wouldn't do. Hablaha soo celiya):

^ I agree. oh come on mr. Admin, give the people a break saaxib. This is bit beyond looking for the sake of the forum awow. bring wisdom back, I urge you dear admin.

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar: War Badgaduudoow, xee tahay militantnimadaan aad lasoo baxday labadaan bari. Ninkii degnaa, deganaansho lagu yaqiinay maba tihidee. See camaleeto igaarka? Baaruudnimadii ayaa ku qarxisaa u maleynaa. Baaruud xaa kuu geeye hortiiba. walalo mudane MMA, Waxba runtii isma badalin laakin walal waamaxay beenta ay dadku ay rabaan in naga dhaadhacsiiyaan. Somalinimo, walaltinimo, dadka ay ka dhabta tahay waan aqaan waana dad aan xishmad iyo karaamo u qabo, hadii ay noqoto dhinac siyaasad iyo dhinac kastaba. Dadkaa waxaa kamid ah adiga oo kale. Waxaan odhan karaa farci wayn ayaa idiin dhexeeya adiga iyo dadka kale ee somaliwayn udooda. Adigu markii aad xumaan aragto waad kasoo horjeedsataa, ama nin reerkaaga ah ha ahaado ama ha iska daayo. Laakin dad somalinimo kuleh oo calankii bluegleyda wata kabacdina kolba waji la imanaya. Oo ku fakaraya sida walalkood ee Hargeysa joogaa ee sida somalida kale ku dadaalaya nolol maal meedkiisa siduu uu dhib u gaadhi lahayd, waa wax lala yakhyakhsado, qof somalinimo iyo walaltinimo rabaana saas uma fakaro. Hada yarkan mr. Nayruus wuxuu kuleeyey in Yey ayaa Hargeysa usoo wada wax wanaagsan. I am wondering when did criminal, traitor yey became the savior, provided another thread where he said ina Yey is a traitor as a proof. Mar leh, in Yey iyo TFG ayaan taagersanay waayo TFG ayaa somalinimo iyo ciso wada, marna leh waa shaydaamo, marna leh waa badbaadiyaasha nabada somaliyeed. Waa wax lala yaabo. Dadkaasuun baan rabaa in shaaca ka qaado, oon tuso in ay been katay waxan ay wadaan. Anigu runtii sifiican ayaan ukala aqaan somalinimo walaltinimo dadka ay ka runta tahay, sida adiga, paragon, xiin, farax brown iyo rag kale oo badan. Inta badan, inta badan I get along with them quite well.

^So you must be the rightous one? Soo maal, Now look red sea aka stealth isn't denying the people in Sool, parts of sanaag their right to choose or decide their own destiny, however we need to understand how the world works. ....and yes referendum would be taken in Somaliland aka British Somaliland, the world does recognise these areas to be 'Somaliland' though not internationally recognised as seperate nation. When the status of nationhood is ready to be granted, one thing is certain sool and most parts of Sanaag would protest against it, thus as result referendum would be taken, I expect 90% of reer sool to vote no to seccession and most parts of Sanaag as well, however they would be overwhelmed by the majority of votes coming from Hargeysa, Awdal, Togdheer, saaxil, therefore I am afraid seccession would go into effect. That is how things would shape up, red sea didnt' say it or made it up, but that is how things work or shall I say that is how the cookie crumbles. Now, I must bring something to your attention, garaad canood as well as well as Aaliyah, because I don't understand this direct questions. You can disagree with that, however don't come after me, as though I was 'good' before and now suddenly I have become 'bad boy'. Let us not question each other's characters here, it's only cyber space sxb. Learn to live with it. Nabadey.

Nayruus, would you kill your father or any of your family memebers, or perhaps let us even say anyone, if they opposed unity? would you? That is one question for you to ponder on. In addtion, you have not yet EXPLAINED HOW Ina Yey went from a man you hate to a man who would 'safe' your city? ^^^Still waiting for explanations.... Thanks in advance(: The floor is still yours, cuz you know what I am going to say, read the 25 page thread and other threads out there, but YOU made two redicolous assertion never seen before, 1. kill your family for Somalinimo? 2. how Yey went from satan to a hero in your book?

^lol...yes. But sister it shows how these people (TFG camp) arent' really true believers of what they preach nor claim, because if that was the case, they wouldn't be excepting anything from a cold blooded murdered like zenawi or anything he says.