Originally posted by Munira002: ^^Aah true warriors...did one of them leave with her on his shoulders??...lol Stealth it sounded like it was a sucessful party, without a brawl it wouldnt have been... NO, no one left with the chick, they all ended up in the back of police squad car. Good thing I left way before that, or I would have been pepper sprayed by the cops.

Okay good thing that those peeps (mostly ladies) are cleaning up, however I doubt that they would make any difference. It makes good picture though.

You really think so Sayid? Peace this peace that? Adeer Somaliland should be at second stage (at least) by now....that is massive land development. Riyaale flunked in these areas big time, nor has he shown any leadership in his time almost to be up soon, however Somalilanders need someone more charismatic to elevate them to the second level, and I am sorry Riyaale isn't the one.

I hope you had good time. here it in Minnesota the event went as planned, until the last 30 minutes when a fight broke out, between two guys over a chick.

Originally posted by Che-Guevara: Badacas...sure blame Che. On totally diffirent note, were you present at this event. LoooooooooL@Xalimo cat fight I just read what Horseed.net reported. I have to say, I really laughed. The fight actually started between two guys for a girl. the trouble makers had no distinct region, they were all mix of all regions of Somaliland, however they were thugs who were there to offcourse party and get ladies.

Seriously this Siyadd dude is sounding like a desperate chick by the day, dude relax. There is not darn thing you can do about it.

If this is a joke, then I am not laughing. Bad joke I say. The only way the so called riyaale will win if he robbs it. Siilanyo should win it for the better of everyone.

MMA, Ma anaad isu'ulaysaa waxaa loogu diiday. Mida kale hadii dadku ku yidhaahdaan ma iman kartid, dee ma iman kartid. Cumar Carte Ghalib, wuxu uhaa nin aaminsan Somaliwayne, ilaa hadana Hargeysa wuu tagaa mar uu madaxwayne isku sharxo iyo markale. Isagu waxa uun aaminsanyahay/aaminsanaa, somaliwayne, laakin nimankale marka laga reebo Jamac Yare, waa calooshood ushaqaystayaal, kolba halkay ka shidan tay ayey uyaacayaan, dadkuna taas majecla. Sida awgeed ayey sida waraabaha ugu dul wareegayaan Somaliland. Jamac Yare isaga in loo diido dhulkiisa maahan, kolay siyaasiin ayaa kadanbeeya waxaas, mid Stealth lasu'aali karo maaha 'the reason why that is'. Mida kale, Buubaa ma midnimuu aaminsanyahay, Sifir yaa kugu yidhi midnimuu aaminsanyey, I thought of all people, you would understand these people don't really believe in anything, but are pure oppurtunists, who are taking advantage of the south as well as they would like to take advantage of Somaliland. well Somalilanders won't let them have it both ways. Dhuc dhuc, So how do Jews carry out their "attitudes" compare to Somalilanders, offcourse I know that you are not comparing us religious wise, you would be insane to say that, and even more for me to believe that. However, to compare the actions carried out by the Jewish state vs. the actions of Somalilanders, doesn't even compare and it's really idiotic comparison. So yes you are even wrong in that comparison. I think your post was hypothetical last moment, emotionally charged, and not much based on reason or good observance as you claimed, but hey if it brightens your day, why not. Get your feet wet I say. Che, yes I was. They ruined it though it was the end anyways. The whole thing started with two guys fighting over a girl, then one guy being jumped by two, and those two guys being jumped on and so and so forth. That is how it ended in the last 30 minutes. Though there was not much harm done, the celebrations would be remember as disasterous rather than a 'anniversary'. The people who had done this were bunch of 'gangsta wannabe' trouble makers who were there to just cause problems.

Yes, those Jews who have no connectivity or don't contribute to the ongoing supression against the Muslims are not a target of mind. heck I dated one of them in High school( my ciyaalo suuq years). However, the comparison which Cambarro made were about those Jewish zionists who are politically involved in Isreal and Somalilanders, that is where I took an issue. Again, jews were just something Che put in my mouth, with the intent to blow this out of porportion, but hey I do agree with you on that xoogsade regarding the Jews ordinary citizens.

Originally posted by Cara: Stealth, the UIC wasn't cleaning up Mogadishu when they attacked the TFG in Baidoa . You make it sound as if the UIC was busy rounding up thugs in Xamar and got invaded by the TFG forces! The UIC was NOT on a rescue mission since June 2006 saaxiib, and if you think SLand would not have been a target for Aweys and co. I would like to know what you put in your coffee. Carawelo, First of all, I hope these questions that you are posing are for the purpose of finding an answer to your curiosity and not just to get your dirac wet. That being said, the TFG at the time at least was small, weak and nonfunctioning entity isolated in Baydhabo. However, they 'invited Ethiopians illegally into the country, which was both against African as well against the international laws, because Ethiopian forces entered a sovereign country's soil without the consent of either the people nor any laws from African nations as well, they did this by even denying the existance of Ethiopian force within the somali territory while they were preparing to attack in order to pave the way for their weak, nonfunctioning little entity which they were safe guarding.... and as you know that has come to pass. Sure you might ask that though Ethiopian troops were present in the country, they didn't initiated the attack against the UIC. If that is your state of mind, than consider that as soon as the UIC kicked those U.S backed warlords out of Xamar, and it was clear that Islamic state was coming about and suceeding so in its early stages. That was when the U.S decided to assist the Ethiopian troops to dismantle those 'terrorists', since the warlords weren't able to do so. So sooner or later, and whether or not the UIC initiated the attack, they would have BEEN ATTACKED ON THEIR BASE IN MUQDISHO. That is fact sister and I am not just making it up. As for Somaliland being attacked by the UIC, I considered that as scare tactic to get Landers frreaked out in order to oppse the UIC, some Somalilanders actually opposed the UIC as result of thug Riyaale's chest beating which offcourse is programmed by Melez. Anyhow, if the UIC intent was the attack a peaceful entity like Somaliland then they would start off with Puntland. That wasn't the case though and it didn't occured at all. That being said, the TFG was attacked, because they harbored enemies of the state, if Somaliland harbored and brought foreign troops in order to fight their fight for them, then I for one would be chanting go UIC, kill every freaking Lander alive.

^Abti iska naso, waxba maanka ha iska qaadin. Waxaad doonto dheh, laakin what difference does it make?

Zenobia, yes indeed happy May the 18th sister. Enjoy yourself, I know I will.

Originally posted by Che-Guevara: Here you have your usual, "I don't judge but" mantra. Reminds of your " I respect SSH people's rights,but the majority Slanders would silence their voice in referendum. Saaxib, hadaad wax dhehdid. Stick to it and back it up with something. Don't try wiggle your way of out it. wiggle what? back up what? quite honestly, I dont' see your point or how it relates to anything. Are you starring at another space. I have an issue with the comparison made by Cambaro between Jews and Somalilanders. What does what YOU say have to do with that? you tell me, cuz I am not really sure.

Xiin okay Cara Have you read what she wrote and her "last minute reason" that she came up with? Well, regardless of whether or not there is something wrong with Jews, you should not make a comparisons like that, its' utterly as confirmed by Xiin, wrong. Che go ahead defend everything and change the subject just to have few things off of your mind.. You have already said it there of how you see an average Somalilander. However, it doesn't matter what I think of the Jews, that is not the subject here, the subject here is that one is a Muslim and the other isn't. Besides, what do you about Sen. Norm Coleman ( a Jew, in U.S senate from MN), he is behind many things and is involved in many things, even in the issue in Somalia, he can be found on the side of the evil doers like Ethiopia and their pupet regime, the TFG.....if you weren't aware of that, well now you know. BTW...I do NOT work for a Jew.

Originally posted by Geel_Jire12: And who is the "hardcore Islamist fundmentalist"? Geeljire12 that would be you dunno how he fitted you in there. But I think hardcore fundamentalist applies to those who surpass the 5 time prayer requirment.

Originally posted by Emperor: Ugu danbaynti waxaan kugu soo gabagabaynayaa, maad maqashay "Tuugga reerkayga ayaa iiga fiican Sheekha reer Hebel" waa taas xaalada dhabta ah ee kajirta Somalia, fikirkyaga un weeye... That is my friend a qabiil mentality. Those who think like that are bound to fail, you know it well. I know you support ina Yey for clanish reasons, even in midst of the darkest days of Somali history which he and others have spearheaded. So in that quote or shall I say maah maah, you are only speaking for yourself and those kind that believe in such. I don't. Think of why you love your clan fiefdom and so dearly support their leaders, because Sheekhyaal bay yihiin miyaa, Ayaa katuugsanna? First of all, I dare you proof it where I have supported Riyaale Kahin or even my "closest" kin Faysal Cali Waraabe. Prove it. That assertion of your is simply an assumption from your behalf, and thus doesnt' apply to me. As for as Somaliland which you refered as 'clan fiefdom'. I have to disagree with you on that. Somaliland doesnt' just contain one qabiil, nor is it even a sin to support your clan for any good doings, however when your clan does sinful things, you should oppose them. I stood against anyone of my "kinsmen" if they are wrong, and stood with them when they are wronged. What is wrong with that? The story is very different in your book saaxib, you support ina Yey whether he is wrong or right, and quite honestly I don't remember ina Yey doing anything right since become a head of the TFG thug group. Ps. There is no such thing as Islamist, fundamantelist, hardcore whatever.....how easy do you fall in love with Western perpatrated ideas adeero. :confused: Cara What for? did Hargeysa need rescuing from warlords, thugs etc.. If Hargeysa was just like Xamar and thugs, warlords were runing the street, stealing people' properties, then offcourse I would not only support it, but would put my money were my mouth is, so that they could rescue my city. And quite honestly, I wouldn't care which qabiil is doing it as long as my house is being cleaned for me. However, Somaliland is peaceful, and the UIC were smart enough to know and would have not gone near Somaliland for the fact that peace could be disrupted. Negotiations would be the next step and appriariate one in that case.

Everything. Maybe in your nutshel world, you don't see far beyond their ethnicity, which I am not judging them by, however, their acts against the Muslim world is what has put them on the chapters of the Holy Quran and to this day, they continue to do so, evil doings that is. . I didnt' expect to baby sit anyone today. Anyways, I don't see the comparison that the old lady Cambaro has put forth.

So who is a Jew? whether there might be something wrong in being a Jew or not, it shouldnt' be applied and should have absulately nothing to do with Somalis. If I am not a Jew, do I deserve to be compared to one, yes even if it's the slightest observation. If you call this an observation, then You need to put on magnified glassess so that you can better see right from wrong. In this case your observation not only sucks big time, but it blows...boom.

Muniira, You are free to do as you wish, remember that. No one is here to force you or make you a believer as a Somalilander. We are not hiring currently.

Good news. More to come Insha Allah. Down down Melez's regime in Addis inch by inch of land

Yes, and why wouldn't I want to be different from group of folks who are hellbent on spitting the most outrageous statements, such as that we actually hold pride in colonials past, and that we perhaps might even compare Somalilanders to the Jewish nation which are perhaps the most disowned human beings alive. If that is the case and that is your mentality, then I don't...... see any reason to share anything with you, you folks aren't worth our brotherlyness.

Emperor , walalo, xumaan ha iga qaadan laakin, ma makhli jirtay ' hadal haamo lagama buuxsho'. Hadii aynu hadal wadno uun, lagama daalo sxb. Markaa waxaan fiican in marmarka qaar, waxyaabaha qaar la iskaga aamuso hadii xataa aanay ku qancin. Jimce fiican sidoo kale walal.

Yes, I have response for you ms> what? Jewish and Somalilanders...comparisons yeah right. I rather not even bother to respond to this nonsense, 'oh I thought about it in last minute piece of garabage. <I am speaking of the post offcourse not you. If you want attention from some people here, then you better do better job. Okay iska shaqayso.

Originally posted by Baashi: The issues you are dismissing are the core Somali issues. If Sherrif can make up with Inna Aideed tell me why f* he doesn’t deal with Geddi? Is that directive in Wasaa faat …don’t f** get my nerve ******* ***** *******! Waa la dirriraa bay maqleen…war maatada ha laynina. I think you have some issues twisted here brother, and no I am not trying to add more fuel to raging fire. Firstly Sh. Shariif Axmed reconciled with anyone, did it and is still doing it. He wants to and wanted to sit down with Geedi and Abdullahi Yusuf from the getgo when the TFG was in Baydhabo, and the UIC was the force to reckon in much of southern Somalia. The now jobless Shariif Xasan, the TFG's parliamentary speaker use to go to Xamar frequently to meet up with UIC members for possible peace agreement between the TFG and the UIC. So instead of getting overheated dear brother, how come Shariif Xasan gotten along with the UIC, though he was a member of the TFG and others like Geedi didn't? I believe it's the TFG that is standing on the way of any possible peace being made among Somalis in Southern Somalia, simply because the power of influence is coming from Addis. The TFG can stay, they can be whatever legit government they want to be, however they need to engage directly with their own people without much of outside influence if that happens, they will suceed if not, then I don't see much sucess on the horizon, and that is speaking from the reality on the ground, not some type of bravado. BTW....people can have different opinions sir, so don't be so self rightous yourself, geeljire might be more closer to the truth than you are. Emperor As much as I respect one's right to let his mind go free, but I have to say, you have everything you wrong basically. One important fact you need to understand is. As far as Somaliland, mr. renegade said it best. Somaliland is a party that is well orginized, meel loogu soo hagaago ayey leeyihiin. Shabac, maamul iyo kala danbayn ayey leeyihiin. So it's really suprising that the corrupt TFG is planing on how to deal with Somaliland which has established itself as peaceful oasis, sorry but elevate and get to our level before we can even sit down and talk. Secondly, you are accusing the USC or perhaps are making the assertion that UIC might have been the revival of the USC. The simple fact you failed to realize is that the current TFG police commander was a member of the USC, all the warlords such as Yalaxow, Qanyare etc...were the real trouble makers. So if anyone needed to be feard, it would be these thugs which is harbored by the TFG today, which itself is thug movment. In addition, the UIC did consist more of one qabiil, however, look at the job they did, that should be a good example, unless you are only looking at the qabill identity which they belong, you should look at the job they did. Regardless of how much the TFG is inclusive, one thing is clear it hasnt accomplish nearly or is even on the way to matching what the UIC did, which as you said was all exclusive movement of one qabiil. Well you do the thinking of which you would take, exclusive effective, peacemaking, angel with wings movement or inclusive piece of trash like the TFG. [ May 19, 2007, 02:15 AM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

Xanthus, There is no other way to talk to these people, they like it not being sugarcoated, the only way they understand things it's. Jacaylbaro , Your mailbox is full man, clean up those shukaansi posts will ya. I am not asking you for too much man, so open the mailbox bal..waxbaan ku yar waydiin lahaaye.