Aaliyah rageedii..keep looking. ps. you dont think am rude since we disagreed on some issue do you?

Hold on mister. Xaal baan rabaa waad icaydee.

Yes he had MMA. He has changed.

The xabashis are in Xamar. What is there to talk about? The xabashis shouldn't be involved in Somali affairs. If this was TFG vs. ICU round table talk, it would'v under taken long ago. But while the EThiopian troops are commiting crimes against the civilians in Xamar, there is nothing to talk about but to do everything to evict them from the country. Enemies hello.

Gen. Jamac yare whatever he had done is working on better mission now. He has the right to express his opinion on imprisment of Dr.Gaboose and co.

Originally posted by Nayruus: But hey, this is the last response from me to you. I am after the big fish you know Why? you know that I know what you know that most people here don't know or pay close attention to. I have no other person to take on here. Horn is discussing with Oodwayne and told me to take a hike. So we are stuck together for a while my friend. My question is: If you believe in Somaliwayne. Whey then support and consider Ethiopia as an ally and liberators? If you believe that somalis are one people, why then do you suggest that Xabashi fight the fight for you as though they are among somalis? did you not know that Ethiopia occupies or you might agree to one. Somali galbeed and southern Somalia?

Why is that?

Hey Horn...is that you or the differen horn than we use to know of. Are you my ex-fellow combrade whom we usually were on the same trenches in the battle field. Bari hore nin ayaad haan jirtay. OO waxaad ahayd nin sharaf iyo karaamo leh. Laakin since col. Barre Hiiraale(the Thug you run after) was slapped twice by the ICU, you seem to have become nothing more than his Hiiraal'e cyber mourner.. Somaliland is a whole instituion. And Barre Hiiraale is just an individual. Famous soomali maah maah says: ninba wuxuu uu yahay ayuu ku moodaa. In this case, you refered me of being a comedian. But than i support whole movements like the ICU or politicall instituion like that of Somaliland. You don't support the TFG, you don't support ICU, you only and solely only Go where uncle thug col. Barre Hiiraale goes. PS: Seriously what do you even believe in ? "Where Hiiraale goes, Hornafrique is thereeee" stick that on your for head.

Baashi my mistake saaxib. The question that needs to be asked is. Is somaliland better off than it was before? The answer is YES. When you look across somaliland today. YOu can see the tremendous improvment that somaliland has made since/during the dictatorship years. Today Somaliland Unis are graduating more students than ever. More business that are prively owned and operated are being set up. The cities like Hargeysa, burco are more advanced, better built than during the Siyad Barre regime's reign of terror. People are free today are allowed to express their opinions more freely. Offcourse there are times when that isnt' the case, but its' huge difference compare to the barre days. Currently southern Somalia is being occupied by xabashi forces. Therefore somalilanders see no reason to consider themselves among people who are claiming to being brotherly people yet willing to going extreme lows like that to drag foreign enemies to kill their own people. All in all, there is absulitely no reason that somaliland should even consider a reunification with somalia. What is there anyways. Perhaps there was something when the ICU were there, but the TFG criminals and all those warlords and thugs romaing around...waa in laga ducaysto. Kool Kat, You must be new comer to the political section? If not you'd know who usually cries foul about somaliland. WE are not trying to prove anything, we save that on the ground and in the real world, but its' well known who the passives/lazy and fadhi kudirirs who know nothing but how to yapp all day are. Like that peom said: Afku wuu idin dheeryey, cirbad dhuub magalisaane. Duke, sorry I won't spill the blood of sool and sanaag. If it's easy for you to support a regime that draggs xabashi to kill other somalis, it's not easy for us to commit mass killing against certain people. We know better and you don't.

what the farms in Baardheer are presented to prove a point. lol Those farms as you informed us are privately owned by a lady from that region. Therefore it hardly says anything about any collective success of the region let alone politically. Come on man be little smarter with your visual effects. Again, horn you and that Nayruus dude homeless. When I say that I mean you no one . Gen. Duke has his uncle ina Yey to cheer for and he whatever he does is doing something and if not he has Pland to fall back on. Also most of other nomads which I consider myself to be among of support the Islamic courts union and the reicarnation of them. If not I have also Somaliland to fall back on. Nayruus has no face in hometown hargeysa and you have no credibility in neither camps. meel cidla ah ayaad heehaabaysaan. Therefore it's hard for me to grasp why such two beings would accuse anyone in other words you have no ground to stand on?!!

Beenaale. MMA believed it. I posted that topic yesterday it was in different context, Nayruus twisted his way. Sad.

balaa idila haasawda. I am considering you of being a hater. I do say to that certain people here but not you. But since you seem to be twisting things to making my stances seem immoral. Can I suggest yu read in the begining when the two states of North and South joined together and their differences? YOu don't have to believe anyone in that case, read it yourself. Anyhow, you find it easy to supporting the TFG aka xabashi stooges and criminals of our time, what is so difficult in excepting Somaliland soveringty?

Originally posted by Nayruus: quote:Originally posted by Muj: Red Sea: Nayruus, ps. Nacayb udhimo. Mun: Red Sea, ma imka ayaa sidii habraha la is habaaray. Imaadan habaari jirin eh, ma waxa kaa wareerisay DAAMI STATE OF SOMALIA . Hargeisa is my city and when it is liberated from the gang, I will be there enjoying my Soomaalinimo and muslinimo. But hey, this is the last response from me to you. I am after the big fish you know..so keep saying your evil prayers they may haunt you for the rest of your life and I know that deep in your heart you see the dismemberment of Somali Republic is totally wrong but you have no power because the the pressure of tribal allegiance is more powerfull than your good part. I suggest that you read the holy quran again and stop following the maddness int ay goore goor tahay> Nacayb inu kuhayo oo ooyayso shaki kama taagna. In aad tahay bilaa guri oo aanad Hargyesa cag soo saarin karin waa ogsoonay. Besides, what do you know about the holliness of the Quran. You are supporting the naked ethiopian invasion. If you are truelly a somali loving kid. Answer these questions for me. 1.How can you support the EThiopian forces in Xamar and claim them to being an ally and yet cry against other Somalis in Somaliland? 2. How can you consider yourself to be for somaliwayne when you support the presence of a regime(Ethiopia) which is occupying somali galbeed and as you know won't give it back? how do you manage to blend all these things together. Let us be truthful to ourselves. Can you be for somaliwayne if you are really supporting the xabashis who occupy both Southern Somalia and somali galbeed? :confused:

Horn, adeer. Kee dhib qaba. ma ninkaygan hoy, siyaasiyiin, waxgarad, kala danbayn, midnimo iyo waxkasta haysta. Mise kan (confused) ah oo gurina haysan, siyaasina umaqnayn, waxgaradna lahayn ayaa dhiba qaba?

Walle bal car waakasi qof siifacan uhela halaga helo dadkan. No wonder you folks can't get anythign together.

Baashi, You are still twisting the words. He mentioned that as historical differences. Which is true if you are being realistic. Yes once upon time both armies marched differently, and both states were run differently. Secondly, not only that but as soon as both colonials left. And as soon as somaliland gained independence from the British, it was granted a membership status to be a soveign state. That is presented to the international community of somaliland being indepenent state previously. However the case that is constantly debated here why is somaliland seeking seperation from the rest of Somalis? That is debated. Nin ba si u yidhi and the most importantly reer Somaliland have made it clear that they don't want reunification. qasab maha jacaylku. edit: The fact that somaliland was once a recognised state for short period of time is valid point that can be presented to the UN. The other point as I said that is always is debated why does somaliland want to be seperate. Simple answer is Somaliland has already seen the dark alley that somali unity fell in and sought new ways forward which is seperation from southern Somalia. I personally don't want to reunite with rest of Somalia and wouldn't even have dialogue of such until a good Islamic government or simply government that can be trusted and agreed upon by majority of somalis is given birth there. That still needs alot of work.

Aduunyow. waa hornafrique, adigu maxaad haysata maanta bal iisheeg? ADeero Huurale ayuunbaad daba ordaysa. Waanad ogtay halkuu kudanbeeyey. He is neither a politician or mucaarad. he is useless. why do you have. Nayruus, Niyow adaa ceebaysan. Oo marba dhinac ubooda. Mar yidhaa waxaan raacsanay Abdullahi Yusuf marna kusheega shaydaan oo raaca Maxaakimta. Maxaa ka qaldan? Kolay somaliland waxba kuma suubin kartid waayo runta miyaa la isku sheego maxaad tari kartaa. Miyaad kudhuusi somaliland?

Naxar Nugaaleed. Both are. But in that sense I was refering to Somalia. The land that is being ocuupied at the moment.

Well dont' be childish. It's true that somaliland and southern somalia were different in many aspects including politically, socially etc..prior to the union. He is not saying that we came from different wombs but simply each state role differently prior to their union. That is the point made unless you want to twist it as you folks in that corner do.

Nayruus, Relax man. Your uncle, his so call might army can't do shid to Somaliland. Even more importantly you(nayruusow) can't set foot in Hargeysa. So yeah, I do understand where your cries are coming from. ps. Nacayb udhimo. Horn, You said, somalia will be united even if Somaliland is brought back into the fold forcifully? You should pay little revisit history again. Or perhaps visit uncle Afwayne' grave yard hence he might whisle his night marish years to your ear.

Che and me, dudes listen. Get reall yourselves. nationalism? Stay up to date will ya? the world has moved on from the era of nationalistic crap. that was late 50s to early 60s when most of African nations were experiencing freedom from colonials. Today the world is alot different and the somali issue requires different and more complex solutions. I think the reason you two are holding to this outdated ideas is because one of you has missed the booli qaran years aka caano boodhi times dearly and the other must have spent too much in the diapora.

he's got the same name as I.

Preparations to orginize the fight for the country and how to evict the filthy Ethiopian troops out of the country is under way. Follow it here: click on this link.

Human rights Watch: To the Invaders: Cease all attacks that deliberately target civilians and cease using means and methods of combat that cannot discriminate between civilians and military objectives. Civilian objects such as schools, hospitals, and homes must not be attacked unless currently being used for military purposes. Cease all indiscriminate attacks and attacks in which the expected civilian harm is excessive compared to the concrete and direct military gain anticipated. In particular, cease the use of area bombardments of populated areas of Mogadishu. Issue clear public orders to all forces that they must uphold fundamental principles of international humanitarian law and provide clear guidelines and training to all commanders and fighters to ensure compliance with international humanitarian law. Investigate and discipline or prosecute as appropriate military personnel, regardless of rank, who are responsible for serious violations of international humanitarian law including those who may be held accountable as a matter of command responsibility. To the European Union and its member states, the European Commission, the United Nations Security Council, the African Union, the Arab League, and the government of the United States Publicly condemn the serious abuses of international human rights and humanitarian law committed by all parties to the conflict in Mogadishu in 2007, and call on the Ethiopian government and the Transitional Federal Government of Somalia to take all necessary steps, including public action, to ensure that their forces cease abuses against civilians. Support measures to promote accountability and end impunity for serious crimes in Somalia, including through the establishment of an independent United Nations panel of experts to investigate and map serious crimes and recommend further measures to improve accountability. Publicly promote and financially support civil society efforts to provide humanitarian assistance, services such as education, monitoring of the human rights situation, and efforts to promote national solidarity. Promote and support TFG efforts to improve the functioning of the judicial system and to establish a national human rights commission. Provide voluntary contributions to support an expanded OHCHR field operation in Somalia. To the Transitional so call Federal Government of Somalia (TFG) Immediately issue clear public orders to all TFG security forces to cease attacks on and mistreatment of civilians and looting of civilian property"